The Lower North (Tribute/Vale of the Silent/Venal/Geminate)

[jonesbones]

Play to only RMT. Put trillions of assets on the line. Does not compute...

The combined forces arrayed against the NC are no larger than the NC itself. If you had chosen to put your massive cap/SC fleets on the line from day 1 this would be a different war. Now comes the denial of your grief.

[Marlona Sky]

I love how you group anyone that opposes the NC as RMT players. Is that what they tell you? Is that what Vuk and the rest of the NC leadership preaches to you while they pack golden parachutes?

Get a fucking clue you worthless muppet and open your eyes and see what is happening around you!

[jonesbones]

So much tech moon goo. Where has it gone? If only those hundreds of billions a month could be used to build a massive cap/SC fleet. If only.

[Don Pellegrino]

It's interesting how (from reading the MM forums), the grunts claim both:

- That the supercaps used against them are frunded by RL money
and
- That the DRF RMT all their isk for RL money

Does not compute.

[Traxio Nacho]

It's interesting how (from reading the MM forums), the grunts claim both:

- That the supercaps used against them are frunded by RL money
and
- That the DRF RMT all their isk for RL money

Does not compute.

Same tag line goons were using about Nync, saying he was being paid real life money to buy ingame items to use to take space to make isk to RMT while using the real life money to buy people off so they would side with him to allow him to take space to farm to make isk to RMT.........

I think their thinking was real money had to be put down at the start in order for them to start the business, just like in real life I suppose. Obviously most of it was just bullshit in order to get people logging in.

[Skyly]

lime = Plague Black?

[lubica]

Im a tool becuase i am telling you things that you dont want to hear. that computes.

Me Plague Black - no he IS a tool and is just as AWOL as the others!

No you're a tool because you apparently believe anything either of your leaderships tell you.

NC probably RMTs more than the DRF if anything, due to tech moons, non-shitty rats, not to even mention the absurd quantities of CSAAs in Tribute, that have been churning out supercaps for as long as they've been useful (longer).

Not to mention that the average (non-botting) resident of the NC regions is a skittish little whine-tard, getting butthuert over anything and everything. I'm not saying there are no DRF guys who match the description, but at least I can ingore their whining as it is thankfully illegible.

Also, you're obviously the only player in EVE with alts in both NC and DRF.

Also also, clarify the "we" in your posts.
Example A:

I'd like to thank the members of the NC for making the game so much fun for me over the last 2 - 3 years. whilst I play this game to have fun it is hardly surprising that we are being beaten by a professional real money making machine.

Example B:

Well lets just say to you Atlas - DRF were going to ask for you to come help but after a healthy discussion we didnt think you were capable of sticking it out with us after your last betrayel to IT! We thought that whilst we were teaming up with IT you may not share the same enthusiasm!

[Lime]

Im a tool becuase i am telling you things that you dont want to hear. that computes.

Me Plague Black - no he IS a tool and is just as AWOL as the others!

No you're a tool because you apparently believe anything either of your leaderships tell you.

NC probably RMTs more than the DRF if anything, due to tech moons, non-shitty rats, not to even mention the absurd quantities of CSAAs in Tribute, that have been churning out supercaps for as long as they've been useful (longer).

Not to mention that the average (non-botting) resident of the NC regions is a skittish little whine-tard, getting butthuert over anything and everything. I'm not saying there are no DRF guys who match the description, but at least I can ingore their whining as it is thankfully illegible.

Also, you're obviously the only player in EVE with alts in both NC and DRF.

Also also, clarify the "we" in your posts.
Example A:

I'd like to thank the members of the NC for making the game so much fun for me over the last 2 - 3 years. whilst I play this game to have fun it is hardly surprising that we are being beaten by a professional real money making machine.

Example B:

Well lets just say to you Atlas - DRF were going to ask for you to come help but after a healthy discussion we didnt think you were capable of sticking it out with us after your last betrayel to IT! We thought that whilst we were teaming up with IT you may not share the same enthusiasm!

Apologises for the confusion you must have missed the point where I said I am playing on both sides. But meh -

Its quite entertaining watching TJ burn with my Russian character becuase im looking forward to eventually having my own tech moon or two or may be more becuase once we have tribute and the nc fails evoke nc. and raiden are next, trust me when i say that the russians want the whole tech market. But also with my russian character I hold hope that the NC can fight out long enough until the real truth is unvailed. I mean we've already decieved goons and test becuase we told them we wouldnt go into tribute and we have!

You see i am russian and emirgrated to Scotland when i was 10 lived here for 15 years now. You think my accent is bad!!! a russian with a scottish accent LOLs.

So you can see I am set up to be able to understand and infiltrate both sides. It just so happens the russian in me has moved me higher up in the DRF than my NC counterpart.

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[Hey You]

I think retard in you has moved you up on this boards waaay fucking to much...

[cheeba]

Great, war and politics is becoming the new kugu? This is a computer game, please leave the emo my team is better than your team on the other shit forums. I thought fhc might do better than allow purpose made troll accounts to shit up the thread. I thought you only got access to post in this thread if you contributed?

And so to not be hypocritical...


The has been fighting in 3G in tribute, a non station system where PL set up a staging tower. Despite never really meaning to, my corp reffed the tower after many hours in stealth bombers. we also set up our own towers in local and a cyno jammer.

Attempting to use cyno jammer to our advantage, there was a big fight (which i missed sadly) when the PL pos came out of RF. PL had greater supcap numbers and the order was given for NC supcaps to gtfo. Lag was brutal and no one is exact sure who or what died. PL say they looted an erebus wreck, but the erebus pilot says his login screen still shows him in the ship. A few other NC titans disappeared in armor and structure. NC also lost a handful of vanilla caps and PL maybe 2 or 3.

In order to stop us putting up another jammer in their staging system, PL has now sbued the system (but not after our bennyhill bombers onlined some of their own and stole some of PLs )


Also, PL ganked our JF 30mins ago. Bravo dudes.


Thank you forum mod-gods. Lets keep this thread clear of smack.

[Lime]

Great, war and politics is becoming the new kugu? This is a computer game, please leave the emo my team is better than your team on the other shit forums. I thought fhc might do better than allow purpose made troll accounts to shit up the thread. I thought you only got access to post in this thread if you contributed?

And so to not be hypocritical...


The has been fighting in 3G in tribute, a non station system where PL set up a staging tower. Despite never really meaning to, my corp reffed the tower after many hours in stealth bombers. we also set up our own towers in local and a cyno jammer.

Attempting to use cyno jammer to our advantage, there was a big fight (which i missed sadly) when the PL pos came out of RF. PL had greater supcap numbers and the order was given for NC supcaps to gtfo. Lag was brutal and no one is exact sure who or what died. PL say they looted an erebus wreck, but the erebus pilot says his login screen still shows him in the ship. A few other NC titans disappeared in armor and structure. NC also lost a handful of vanilla caps and PL maybe 2 or 3.

In order to stop us putting up another jammer in their staging system, PL has now sbued the system (but not after our bennyhill bombers onlined some of their own and stole some of PLs )


Also, PL ganked our JF 30mins ago. Bravo dudes.

Originally i contributed by saying how AWOL most of the NC is and how much they are failing, had good times in NC but not for long as they are breaking at the seams.

DRF on the other hand has plans that are not public to all and involve the very likes of those who they are fighting with to defeat the NC.

Contribution over. You got that one right, you're not posting here anymore. And if any of you hurfblurfers feel like continuing the two pages of drivel I just had to delete, neither will you.

[Hellkyte]

So for the less informed of us what military/staging/etc hardpoints are left for the NC (regions/systems)?

[Helen]

So for the less informed of us what military/staging/etc hardpoints are left for the NC (regions/systems)?

Vale has pretty much been taken with just 3 station finishing their rf timers now.
Geminate is under DRF/RAIDEN control.

Tribute/Venal seem to be flashpoints with some pretty intense battles raging over pos.
After all the tech must flow..

[Hellkyte]

Are stations being rf'd/ attempts at flipping sov or has the focus mainly been on the tech so far?

[cheeba]

Are stations being rf'd/ attempts at flipping sov or has the focus mainly been on the tech so far?

As mentioned in my post above, the only sbus in place in tribute atm are in a non station system PL are staging out of. I presume this is soley for the reason of stopping us jamming the sytem again.

PL seem to be having a nice time ganking supcaps. Otherwise the only targets being hit (and tbh, why waste time on anything else?) are the tech moons.

[zergl]

Throwing in a post to say I saw Vuk Lau on World of Tanks during an NC supercap whelp.

Cant be helping.

Actually, in a big morale speech Vuk held a few days ago he said that he gave his WoT acc to some kids to grind credits/XP while he's busy saving the NC.

To save you the pain of wading through kugus for the full text:
[spoilers4lnopo]Ok prepare yourself for the wall of text, but as some of the following could classify under the forum p0rn I highly recommend to spare a couple of minutes of your lives.

There is a lot of to be explained to you guys, and the most important is why we suck so much atm so I will start with going back for couple of months.

After winning EVE and witnessing the extinction of all our arch enemies a lot of from command (in this case me in particular) lost the fire igniting our internet hearts. That combined with continuous facepalms from CCP customer support and 0.0 dev crew kinda dimmed my will to play, so I decided to take a step or two back to make the room for others to step up and to gain authority in both RAWR and NC. Then couple of weeks before Fanfest due to NDA stuff I went pretty mad on CSM forums and later on resigned and at that point every time I thought about EVE, I had the mental images of me torturing certain CCP dudes which killed my will for play even more. So i took two more steps back and with Killer2 and Ronan stepping forward and things inside the NC (atleast at a glance) looking better I thought I had luxury for doing that.

Alas the serious invasion started and with following metagame shit in Geminate combined with several of our welps including the supercap one, things started to cracking, both inside RAWR and the NC. Just to make things clear there was no drama just people being burnt here and there, but enough to things start shaking, nothing we didnt saw before inside the NC.

Before I continue on that subject I will touch our internal problems in general. I will take a quote from tonights discussion with Shadoo:
(10:23:51 PM) Shadoo: the NC is losing because you've been sat stale sitting on same shit for fucking 7 years
(10:23:53 PM) Shadoo: you don't innovate
(10:23:56 PM) Shadoo: you adapt
(10:24:07 PM) Shadoo: you don't tactic, you brute
which is in good part true. RAWR was forged more then five years ago, fighting heavily outnumbered with next-to-none income. Our awesomeness against FE and ATUK back then (and pinch of BFFness) bought us an invitation to North. After getting Tribute for next 2 years we were under constant invasions and still without any significant income. We were all literally busting our balls to make RAWR what it is now. Our FCs were the real Ateam, our directors were printing isk out of nothing, and our members were fighting like a lions. Then tech got boosted, we started being space rich, BoB and whole zoo around them folded, our memberbase risen from like 2.5k to 4k while our daily fleets went from 150 to 60, our FC either started playing HoN or emoquited and in general we slowly become....I will not say shit...but we became pretty horrible.

"Luckily" for us CCP started nerfing 0.0, 1st they made drones region shit, then they nerfed anomalies and true sec status, and finally they nerfed jumpbrigdes. I am not sure if you thought about it, but basicaly they shit on whole EBAY land cutting their income in more then half, while making logistics nightmare. We are blessed with being in the best region logistic wise, but I am sure not many of you can imagine living 50 jumps from nearest lowsec with next to impossible cap routes. While I agree it has its strategical perks, its simply bad for RMT business. Thats the main reason EBAY crew decided to move in the North, or at least to try it.

Now the problem was that we are having against one of the meanest combos to fight. We have elitePVP PL with their metagaming crap, DRF with their iskprint machines as meatshield A-team, and ncDOT, Raiden and rest of the zoo as meatshield B-team. Now after series of our errors they are on our doorsteps, and their rapetrain has no brakes. The only thing which can stop them is huge wall of our nakid bodies piled on each other. So as much as things looking grim now only thing we need to do is to pile on each other (we like to do that), stop sucking (some of us will be pissed) and to demolish their train (I am sure everyone will enjoy this).

We have several task ahead of us:
- Command with me on the top to stop sucking in communicating and organizing.
- FCs to stop suiciding fleets. FCs to use brain.
- John RAWR Does (yes you) to stop sucking and to start using brain too.
- FCs to grow balls (and some of them brain too).
Anyway...FCs....the poor FCs. Being the FC in RAWR is one of the toughest things existing in the Internet. If you dont trust me, try it. For all those reasons respect your FCs. Some of them are better then other, but they are all trying fucking hard to push things around. One of the main reasons getting me back ingame after the community itself is the amount of energy FCs are putting into the game. Sadly without proper communication, which is above everyone else my fucking mistake, all their efforts were in vain.

So yeah, I am fully back, gave my WoT account to some kids to grind the shit for me, uninstalled Witcher before I even played prologue, uninstalled Football Manager including 2021 year savegame where I own with FC Red Star and decided to get back in the saddle and to lead you - my fellow alliance mates to the victory. Will we succeed, its upon all of you and your ability to pile on each other BUT in order to really own we need to do it with skill and more important - with style so get prepared for Professors Imperian and Dabigredboat and their prep courses "How to BLOB with style"





Well yeah, now comes the important part. Starting from Sunday 22nd of May we will stop sucking or at least die trying. I will do the only thing I am good at - delegate stuff and make your pewpew experience enjoyable.

I will do another announcement tomorrow about some doctrine crap we will implement in upcoming days.

Another important thing is - Supercap pilot insure your ships. http://forums.morsus-mihi.org/viewto...=78105&start=0
I promise you shitload of killmails, but I am also pretty sure that some of you will die being raped on cynobeacons and also good portion of you will most likely die in good fights, but at least you can tell your grandchildren about it instead of bragging how you raped computer on easy mode in Shogun 2.

Conclusion: We suck atm, but guess what? We sucked before too but took the hit like a man, stood up, learned from mistakes, fought back and eventually always won at the end. After 5 years we are still alive and rocking and I see us doing the same for 10 more years at least, if not in EVE then in some other game.

For the end I will quote for n-th time one of the most memorable persons of our era - "Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever." Shane Falco, The Replacements (2000)[/spoilers4lnopo]

[Rudolf Miller]

So the clock is ticking.. if some good momentum doesn't swing the NC's way in a week or two that whole thing will be for naught.

[Ikoma]

Yaay's aeon just logged in to 3g on the gate and got booshed so hard, died in about 30 seconds

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboa ... ?id=406688

edit: can you say shitfit?

[Traxio Nacho]

That fit must have cost all of 1bil TI rigs too?

Well yeah, now comes the important part. Starting from Sunday 22nd of May we will stop sucking or at least die trying. I will do the only thing I am good at - delegate stuff and make your pewpew experience enjoyable.

I will do another announcement tomorrow about some doctrine crap we will implement in upcoming days.

Another important thing is - Supercap pilot insure your ships. http://forums.morsus-mihi.org/viewto...=78105&start=0
I promise you shitload of killmails, but I am also pretty sure that some of you will die being raped on cynobeacons and also good portion of you will most likely die in good fights, but at least you can tell your grandchildren about it instead of bragging how you raped computer on easy mode in Shogun 2.

Guessing a lot of people didn't get the memo for the 22nd?

After that wallotext about being better and FC's having balls their tactics still come down to

"How to BLOB with style"

[Herschel Yamamoto]

So much tech moon goo. Where has it gone? If only those hundreds of billions a month could be used to build a massive cap/SC fleet. If only.

It was. And then all those supers were told not to log in as Vale fell, and half of them left NC entirely by the time NC HC decided that they wanted to actually try to fight again. Whoops.