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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    So it sounds like 30 million SPs is roughly needed to not be a complete waste of space in a wormhole then?

    30 million combat focussed SPs that is.
    You can combine a lot of those roles on just the Loki. A properly skilled alt at 10m sp can be very efficient.

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    Yep, T3s are brilliant bang for their buck, I snapped them up real quick to 'catch up' to higher SP corpmates. And these days you can have viable T1 logi & ewar cruisers/frigs which probably works well in lower class holes. But T2 tank & weapons modules are a must IMHO. So at least 15mil SP. Then again if you're the shit at probing, you could be a huge asset in just a T2 covops with 0dps & good piloting to stay alive long enough.
    The only off-combat training that can be useful is things like Orcas with tailored fittings for helping collapse holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Yep, T3s are brilliant bang for their buck, I snapped them up real quick to 'catch up' to higher SP corpmates. And these days you can have viable T1 logi & ewar cruisers/frigs which probably works well in lower class holes. But T2 tank & weapons modules are a must IMHO. So at least 15mil SP. Then again if you're the shit at probing, you could be a huge asset in just a T2 covops with 0dps & good piloting to stay alive long enough.
    The only off-combat training that can be useful is things like Orcas with tailored fittings for helping collapse holes.
    Nearly maxed out general supports is only 7m SP. If you then only train up Minmatar Cruiser V+Minmatar Strat Cruiser and the sub skills with T2 Projectiles, that's barely over 10m SP. Obviously you're slightly limited on roles, but you can fit into almost every fleet.

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    ok, so i live in lowsec and do exploration to get some ISK, but now i want to do WHs. I find a lot of C3.
    I got an Main who can fly lots of subcap ships with T2 weapons and a prober skirmish/siege alt.

    I also got 60 Cyclone hulls laying around.

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    [Cyclone, pve test]
    
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Damage Control II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    
    Shield Boost Amplifier II
    10MN Afterburner II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Large Shield Booster II
    
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    
    
    Hammerhead II x5
    ~500 DPS + 117 dornes
    ~700 eHP/s tank with Siege booster.

    Would that work to do the normal C3 Anomalies?
    I could also fly a Sleip/Loki with all V, but right now i just want soem casual pew pew and not worry about getting my ships blown up.
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    Can you get a web on without losing more than 150 from the tank?

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    Yeah, kinda. With web i could even with a drone damage thingy:

    About 590 eHP/s

      Spoiler:

    [Cyclone, pve test]

    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Damage Control II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II

    Shield Boost Amplifier II
    10MN Afterburner II
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
    Large Shield Booster II

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Rage Heavy Assault Missile

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


    Hammerhead II x5


    I think i'm gonna try it. Nothing really to lose.

    Edit:
    If it's fun i could even try a sleip.
    100mn ON ALL THE PvE ships!11
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    [Sleipnir, sleip wh c3 test]

    Damage Control II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II

    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner
    Shield Boost Amplifier II
    Large Shield Booster II
    Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Salvager II

    Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
    Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


    Valkyrie II x3
    Warrior II x2


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    :frysquint: You know you need to track frigates, right? A Claymore would apply more dps...

    I hear (from Liang iirc) that arty sleip is good for C3s. Didn't suggest it because Cyclone being HAMs now.

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    Dunno if they've been buffed in the last ~year, but I tried to do a C3 in a cyclone once, it was baaaaaad. Expect a cap charger refill twice per anomaly.
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    Use a drake instead.

    Stick your siege booster in a drake also...

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    Just testet the Cyclone ... lol
    Tank: no problem
    Neuts: no problem
    range: oh oh

    Cruisers web @ 30km and are 2x faster
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    Are CCP actively adding system to WH space at all?

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    Nope

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    I have been reading the linked wiki page which contains some nice info and some outdated stuff.

    Are there any nice guides out there for people new to wormholes, who are considering setting up shop to farm some isk?

    I have three char's capable of doing HML Tengu or RR Domi's. Which limitations would these in T2 config's have PVE wise; WH class and anoms/sigs etc.?

    If I were to go in as a single player with the above options + probers and haulers, which type of WH would you realistically recommend for me to start in? I'm assuming I would need to find an empty one.

    Would you recommend for one to go in with friends instead?
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    RR domi sounds bad, sleepers vs drones and all that. I'd probably suggest Tengus & C3s.
    If you group up with experienced friends/people, c5/c6 jewing with a good static and full capital escalations should be good for the tengu too.
    Have you PvPed before? Fought incursion/sleeper AI rats?
    Also just a reminder you need to loot & salvage sleepers (& then safely store, transport & sell that stuff) to make any isk.
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    With local tanks, tengus can do C3s. You could kill with 2 and salvage with 1.

    3 RR tengus with substantially pimped fits could do C4s.

    Or at least that's how it was 18 months ago.
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    @Daneel Trevize
    If you have some RR going on or other kind of ewar, the Sleepers ignore the Drones.

    @Wrack
    You don't even need to pimp the Tengus that much if you have 3 of them. Unless you call T2 rigs "substantially pimped". The normal modules can be T2.
    If you only fly with 2 Tengus, you better be pimpin.
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    Have spent the past month doing duo Tengus all T2 fit, running C4 anoms. No pimp needed, you're all smoking some of that sleeper loot aren't you? Three with excellent skills and faction tank can run C5s anoms, although C5 space often has a lot of connections and more of the sleepers point, so you'd be better off in a C4 IMO. Plenty of ISK to get. Another option if you've got friends is a C2 with a C4 static, farm your static for ISK. The other static is a highsec so you can move your loot out easily too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue1* View Post
    Have spent the past month doing duo Tengus all T2 fit, running C4 anoms. No pimp needed, you're all smoking some of that sleeper loot aren't you? Three with excellent skills and faction tank can run C5s anoms, although C5 space often has a lot of connections and more of the sleepers point, so you'd be better off in a C4 IMO. Plenty of ISK to get. Another option if you've got friends is a C2 with a C4 static, farm your static for ISK. The other static is a highsec so you can move your loot out easily too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cue1* View Post
    Have spent the past month doing duo Tengus all T2 fit, running C4 anoms. No pimp needed, you're all smoking some of that sleeper loot aren't you? Three with excellent skills and faction tank can run C5s anoms, although C5 space often has a lot of connections and more of the sleepers point, so you'd be better off in a C4 IMO. Plenty of ISK to get. Another option if you've got friends is a C2 with a C4 static, farm your static for ISK. The other static is a highsec so you can move your loot out easily too.
    Fits?
    Don't have them on hand at the mo, but it's LST II, AB, omni tank, cap stable, everything else for DPS.

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    What level of cap stable is I think the real question.
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