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    Stabber

    Was using them with d180s/dual LSE fits with scram on sisi. Get a few+ together and play like a school of piranha - separating/ganking targets then gtfo. The ship doesn't have enough dps and projection to do much else.

    Badly needs a 5th turret.
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    Tested out my previously posted "mock-SFI" fit.

    PROs
    -Outruns opponents guns quite well. maybe 3/5 hit you and its usually glances/scratches.
    -Easy to manage cap and lots of boosters
    -Moderate tracking
    -Rapes smaller stuff
    -WEB is a must, really helps you get your transversal up

    CONs
    -Weak dps
    -Dies quickly to 3x or more frig/cruiser mix
    -Could use a little more tracking

    I did 4x 1v1 cruiser fights and won all 4. It was tricky to get the scram on some of the mwd fitted ships, actually burned out my AB but managed to get him in the first fight. However I do have low-grade snakes.. so mine is a tad faster than without implants. And the caracal I fought with HAMs barely touched me so this ship does well vs missiles.

    Fight 1 vs Stabber (mwd/L ASB/web/220/Hvy)
    http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboar...hp?id=18269089
    Fight 2 vs Caracal (mwd/LSE/2xinvul/HAM)
    http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboar...hp?id=18270087
    Fight 3 vs Stabber (mwd/dual LSE/220)
    http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboar...hp?id=18270466
    Fight 4 vs Stabber (mwd/220/2 Sml Neut/LSE+ASB)
    http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboar...hp?id=18270460

    the last fight took foreverrrrrr. He had time to reload the ASB until he ran out of charges. after that he melted. he also scratched me a little harder and the 2 small neuts created a slight challenge but the fight was mine the entire time, just took a while to chew him up (46000 dmg taken)


    Overall not bad for brawling. Just dont plan on making it out of many multi ship engagements.

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    snip
    Last edited by Kyle Semones; December 22 2012 at 03:07:54 PM.

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    I'll give fair warning to not post anymore "bragging" posts consisting of just fucking battleclinic links, keep it constructive and if you wanna lord it over idiots in vagas do it in eve general or something.

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    Understood. Sry

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    If I was still playing eve, this is the ship I would be flying most often.
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    New to failheap, and PVP.

    I'm posting this because it is a stabber fit that I have been using as a solo fit, and as a heavy tackle for fleets.

    I realize its more than likely awful, but that's why I'm posting it here. To try and learn how to fit it better.

    [Stabber, Solo]

    4x 425mm AutoCannon II (Barrage M)
    2x Small Energy Neutralizer II

    Large Shield Extender II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II

    Damage Control II
    2x Overdrive Injector System II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    2x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


    Ohh I can feel the flames coming... lol

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    Its already plenty fast enough that so many speed mods are unnecessary.

    Otherwise it's pretty good, just better off with a bit more damage

    Also typical posting convention is to copy paste from EFT so others can copy paste in to EFT
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    Understood, I'll use EFT format in the future. I use EveHQ and this was the "export for forums" format.

    Understood about the DPS, Though I have noticed that a 3km/s cruiser tends to catch people off guard.

    recommend dual Gyros instead?

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    Stabber

    Here's why I think those speed mods are too much. If you're solo, you desperately need the DPS, if you're in a small gang, you need DPS because every ship counts. In a larger fleet/gang (15+), use an inty/fast AF/dictor/hictor for tackle instead.

    Cheers for posting, welcome
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    Slight re-work.

    [Stabber, Solo]

    Damage Control II
    Overdrive Injector System II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II

    Large Shield Extender II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II

    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    Small Energy Neutralizer II
    Small Energy Neutralizer II

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


    With my skills, does about 2.6 km/s with mwd on, 400m/s without
    217 DPS (paper of course)

    Did get up to 244 paper DPS with 3 gyro stabs, but I heard to only fit 3 if you have nothing else that makes sense.

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    The usual conventional wisdom is 3 is fine, 4 is overkill

    Edit: though for medium ACs I'd put in a Tracking Enhancer
    Last edited by Tyrus Tenebros; January 4 2013 at 12:36:15 AM.
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    Ok thanks guys, hope this helps someone else out in the future as well.

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    Stabber

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson2006 View Post
    Ok thanks guys, hope this helps someone else out in the future as well.
    That's why I post here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    The usual conventional wisdom is 3 is fine, 4 is overkill

    Edit: though for medium ACs I'd put in a Tracking Enhancer
    Something to add here, oftentimes 2gyro / 2te split is better than 3gyro/1te, exceptions beings ships that brawl as they can often hold the target more still to ensure better tracking and dont need as much range to deal damage

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    [NEW Stabber, New Setup 1]
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Reactor Control Unit II

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II

    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
    Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I


    Warrior II x5

    This will probably be the best kiting t1 cruiser, 340/379dps at 20km, paired wth its speed and quite ok cap means that this will now outperform all other kiting cruisers bar the omen (which suffers from other problems and need medium drones to reach that kind of dps). The stabber finally is good now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zavior View Post

    Something to add here, oftentimes 2gyro / 2te split is better than 3gyro/1te, exceptions beings ships that brawl as they can often hold the target more still to ensure better tracking and dont need as much range to deal damage
    And deal with the crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuackBot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zavior View Post

    Something to add here, oftentimes 2gyro / 2te split is better than 3gyro/1te, exceptions beings ships that brawl as they can often hold the target more still to ensure better tracking and dont need as much range to deal damage
    And deal with the crying.
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    [Stabber, Kite Improvement]
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Warp Disruptor II

    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M

    Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I


    Warrior II x5


    More range, better tracking (granted with the nerf it's only 10%, but you also get 5% more falloff AND 10% more optimal, so there's pretty much no reason not to do it), virtually same EHP. Speaking of EHP... 15k makes me a bit nervous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
      Spoiler:
    [NEW Stabber, New Setup 1]
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Reactor Control Unit II

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Warp Disruptor II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II

    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
    Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I


    Warrior II x5


    This will probably be the best kiting t1 cruiser, 340/379dps at 20km, paired wth its speed and quite ok cap means that this will now outperform all other kiting cruisers bar the omen (which suffers from other problems and need medium drones to reach that kind of dps). The stabber finally is good now.
    [Stabber, 'kiting']
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II

    Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Warp Disruptor II

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile
    Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Light Missile

    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


    Warrior II x5

    Loss of 20 DPS at 20km for a gain of ~5k EHP.
    Actually an '06.

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