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    Anyone want to give me some long odds on Smuggo coming out as MtF in the next decade?

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    Currently 18 but some private clinics already do as young as twelve and some lobbies are pressuring the NHS to reduce its age currently.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...es-children-uk
    So what you're trying to make out as a transgender factory (in your view) is actually a rather fringe thing that is only happening under rather select circumstances? Gosh, that almost sounds like rather individual situations where a lot of consideration has gone into things.
    Shouldn't be done to children at all and IMO discussion of the issue should be an issue for them and their parents not propagandised at school.
    Evidence of said propaganda?
    inb4 "It's obvious!", "The Times", "Just google it" and other things like that

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    Currently 18 but some private clinics already do as young as twelve and some lobbies are pressuring the NHS to reduce its age currently.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...es-children-uk
    So what you're trying to make out as a transgender factory (in your view) is actually a rather fringe thing that is only happening under rather select circumstances? Gosh, that almost sounds like rather individual situations where a lot of consideration has gone into things.
    Shouldn't be done to children at all and IMO discussion of the issue should be an issue for them and their parents not propagandised at school.
    Evidence of said propaganda?
    inb4 "It's obvious!", "The Times", "Just google it" and other things like that
    The CofE policy I posted earlier. Or the Scottish government's plans to teach this to very young children in primary school. The latter was of course not in their manifesto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    Anyone want to give me some long odds on Smuggo coming out as MtF in the next decade?
    He's definitely on wrong pills already.

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    Teaching = propaganda now

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoirAvlaa View Post
    Teaching = propaganda now
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

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    A couple of decades ago people were getting uptight about religious education being mandatory in schools. I guess this is the next big thing.


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    Apparently the CofE is "education" now

    Makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoirAvlaa View Post
    Teaching = propaganda now
    Most teaching on social or political issues is propaganda I'm afraid. School teachers are extremely left wing in general.

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    Currently 18 but some private clinics already do as young as twelve and some lobbies are pressuring the NHS to reduce its age currently.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...es-children-uk
    So what you're trying to make out as a transgender factory (in your view) is actually a rather fringe thing that is only happening under rather select circumstances? Gosh, that almost sounds like rather individual situations where a lot of consideration has gone into things.
    Shouldn't be done to children at all and IMO discussion of the issue should be an issue for them and their parents not propagandised at school.
    Evidence of said propaganda?
    inb4 "It's obvious!", "The Times", "Just google it" and other things like that
    The CofE policy I posted earlier. Or the Scottish government's plans to teach this to very young children in primary school. The latter was of course not in their manifesto.
    Teaching that something exists isn't propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Contemporary Poster View Post
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    Teaching = propaganda now
    Most teaching on social or political issues is propaganda I'm afraid. School teachers are extremely left wing in general.
    Have you experienced "most teaching" in order to determine that teachers being generally left leaning means that they fill their lessons with leftist propaganda?
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    In the most unshocking news ever, Travolta is gay and a groper:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-masseur.html

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    Currently 18 but some private clinics already do as young as twelve and some lobbies are pressuring the NHS to reduce its age currently.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...es-children-uk
    So what you're trying to make out as a transgender factory (in your view) is actually a rather fringe thing that is only happening under rather select circumstances? Gosh, that almost sounds like rather individual situations where a lot of consideration has gone into things.
    Shouldn't be done to children at all and IMO discussion of the issue should be an issue for them and their parents not propagandised at school.
    Evidence of said propaganda?
    inb4 "It's obvious!", "The Times", "Just google it" and other things like that
    The CofE policy I posted earlier. Or the Scottish government's plans to teach this to very young children in primary school. The latter was of course not in their manifesto.
    Teaching that something exists isn't propaganda.
    Teaching that it's something we should just accept is.

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    Do we have a everyone knew emote? Straight guys can't dance like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Flare View Post
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    Teaching = propaganda now
    Most teaching on social or political issues is propaganda I'm afraid. School teachers are extremely left wing in general.
    Have you experienced "most teaching" in order to determine that teachers being generally left leaning means that they fill their lessons with leftist propaganda?
    A reddit bot-farm told him it was true, so it must be.

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    Currently 18 but some private clinics already do as young as twelve and some lobbies are pressuring the NHS to reduce its age currently.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...es-children-uk
    So what you're trying to make out as a transgender factory (in your view) is actually a rather fringe thing that is only happening under rather select circumstances? Gosh, that almost sounds like rather individual situations where a lot of consideration has gone into things.
    Shouldn't be done to children at all and IMO discussion of the issue should be an issue for them and their parents not propagandised at school.
    Evidence of said propaganda?
    inb4 "It's obvious!", "The Times", "Just google it" and other things like that
    The CofE policy I posted earlier. Or the Scottish government's plans to teach this to very young children in primary school. The latter was of course not in their manifesto.
    Teaching that something exists isn't propaganda.
    Teaching that it's something we should just accept is.
    Depends on how its delivered. If it sticks to objective facts or encourages analysis of its own non-objective assertions, then it isn't propaganda.

    Do you have examples of the lessons content?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Contemporary Poster View Post
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    Currently 18 but some private clinics already do as young as twelve and some lobbies are pressuring the NHS to reduce its age currently.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...es-children-uk
    So what you're trying to make out as a transgender factory (in your view) is actually a rather fringe thing that is only happening under rather select circumstances? Gosh, that almost sounds like rather individual situations where a lot of consideration has gone into things.
    Shouldn't be done to children at all and IMO discussion of the issue should be an issue for them and their parents not propagandised at school.
    Evidence of said propaganda?
    inb4 "It's obvious!", "The Times", "Just google it" and other things like that
    The CofE policy I posted earlier. Or the Scottish government's plans to teach this to very young children in primary school. The latter was of course not in their manifesto.
    Teaching that something exists isn't propaganda.
    Teaching that it's something we should just accept is.
    Jesus wept.
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    Currently 18 but some private clinics already do as young as twelve and some lobbies are pressuring the NHS to reduce its age currently.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...es-children-uk
    So what you're trying to make out as a transgender factory (in your view) is actually a rather fringe thing that is only happening under rather select circumstances? Gosh, that almost sounds like rather individual situations where a lot of consideration has gone into things.
    Shouldn't be done to children at all and IMO discussion of the issue should be an issue for them and their parents not propagandised at school.
    Evidence of said propaganda?
    inb4 "It's obvious!", "The Times", "Just google it" and other things like that
    The CofE policy I posted earlier. Or the Scottish government's plans to teach this to very young children in primary school. The latter was of course not in their manifesto.
    Teaching that something exists isn't propaganda.
    Teaching that it's something we should just accept is.
    Depends on how its delivered. If it sticks to objective facts or encourages analysis of its own non-objective assertions, then it isn't propaganda.

    Do you have examples of the lessons content?
    Scottish government has a long document on it. It's in no way an objective analysis of the issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Contemporary Poster View Post
    Scottish government has a long document on it. It's in no way an objective analysis of the issue
    Do you have an objective grasp of the issue to compare it to?
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    If only there was a rather lengthy medical evaluation process to go through to be prescribed those kinds of things. That'd be a rather good idea, don't you think?
    Why prescribe them to children at all?
    Why not? I'm interested in what reasons you can come up with as a medical professional that would make doing so a risky option. Try and take your own ethics out of it, I dare you.
    Well here's a study in the damage chest blockers can do: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...alCode=tchs20&

    And honestly interested in why you think giving a young child hormones as they go through puberty isn't going to cause them problems. It can lead to girls voices being wrecked for good and becoming very deep, and permanent infertility is another risk. These treatments are playing with children's lives at a time when they lack the power of consent.
    You've yet to offer me anything categorical that isn't already considered.

    Very little medicine is completely risk free, nor is making decisions about gender identity for a child an easy one; indeed it's why there's a lot of safeguards in place to make sure that the decision made is the right one. Does that always result in the best outcome? No, it doesn't, but to focus on only the negative rather than the overall effect such things can have with gender dysphoria shows you can't remove your own personal bias from the equation.
    Why do it for children at all? Let them decide as an adult instead of dosing them up without care for the consequences. At least some of them will simply grow out of it so I see absolutely no case for medical intervention until they are grown up.
    What you're failing to acknowledge is that's already the case for the majority of cases. The situations where hormones are prescribed are where a lot of boxes have been ticked; there's also the fact that they're more effective pre-puberty so the outcome is more likely to be a desirable one.

    Again, you're making it pretty clear that your argument is based on personal opinion and you've not really done any research into this. Trolling is a art though, so congrats on that.
    But you're interfering in a child's development? How can I be the only person who thinks this is wrong? You could do irreparable to them with such meddling and you do it without them being able to give adult consent. I suspect it is a scandal in the making as these kids grow up and sue the NHS for screwing up their bodies.
    Only if we enforce not teaching children religion as well. That is equally damaging to young minds who really should make up their own minds when they become an adult.

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