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    I'm British, fo shizzle. Right now I'm not proud of being British I'm embarrassed because we are squandering the good shit we got on Brexit and War on Drugs and Austerity and destroying the NHS and allowing Tax Evasion and crap like that. I'm still British though. I'm proud of Britains overall history.
    Good for you mate. I honestly never felt the slightest pride in my country until very recently.
    Until very recently you didn't feel anything except the cloud of drug-induced enneui to be fair
    Ah not true at all though I certainly did make a big mistake there. In mitigation I've never been much of a drinker and basically don't drink at all the past few years.
    Serious question time: do you feel different/better now you are month out of daily weed use?

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    I'm British, fo shizzle. Right now I'm not proud of being British I'm embarrassed because we are squandering the good shit we got on Brexit and War on Drugs and Austerity and destroying the NHS and allowing Tax Evasion and crap like that. I'm still British though. I'm proud of Britains overall history.
    Good for you mate. I honestly never felt the slightest pride in my country until very recently.
    Until very recently you didn't feel anything except the cloud of drug-induced enneui to be fair
    Ah not true at all though I certainly did make a big mistake there. In mitigation I've never been much of a drinker and basically don't drink at all the past few years.
    Serious question time: do you feel different/better now you are month out of daily weed use?
    Yes much better.

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    Why is patriotism important?

    Surely it is just a means of cultural stabilisation for the benefit of the bourgeois establishment?

    Why is finding fellowship with your countrymen more important than fellowship on any other lines? Other lines which may in fact prove to be built on more than mere coincidence of birth geography?
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Why is patriotism important?

    Surely it is just a means of cultural stabilisation for the benefit of the bourgeois establishment?

    Why is finding fellowship with your countryman more important than fellowship on any other lines?
    It's a sure fire way to feel good about where you ended up being born by accident.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Why is patriotism important?

    Surely it is just a means of cultural stabilisation for the benefit of the bourgeois establishment?

    Why is finding fellowship with your countrymen more important than fellowship on any other lines? Other lines which may in fact prove to be built on more than mere coincidence of birth geography?
    Because it allows us a good framework to have different opinions while remaining united. I feel a lot of the division of Brexit is in part related to this because many people have identified as being European more than British and this has led to a febrile atmosphere where people seem actively angry that others have a different opinion to them. That's my view anyway.

    It's also quite important for the social contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Contemporary Poster View Post
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    Why is patriotism important?

    Surely it is just a means of cultural stabilisation for the benefit of the bourgeois establishment?

    Why is finding fellowship with your countrymen more important than fellowship on any other lines? Other lines which may in fact prove to be built on more than mere coincidence of birth geography?
    Because it allows us a good framework to have different opinions while remaining united. I feel a lot of the division of Brexit is in part related to this because many people have identified as being European more than British and this has led to a febrile atmosphere where people seem actively angry that others have a different opinion to them. That's my view anyway.

    It's also quite important for the social contract.
    hahahaha

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    Most people have more in common with the man on the streets in any country than they do with the ruling elite of their own

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoirAvlaa View Post
    Most people have more in common with the man on the streets in any country than they do with the ruling elite of their own

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    I agree, it seems they are the ones most determined to create such division because it advantages them.

    Roger Scruton has written some good stuff on why patriotism matters for a democratic society if anyone fancies reading more about this sort of stuff.

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    I like to have my tribalism strictly defined, and importantly, walled off from normal communication with other humans as much as possible in daily life. That's why i like Man United and fucking hate scousers, but also see it is a retarded position to hold. The duality of Fan. 90 minutes maybe twice a week will get you through. No need to be a little Englander all your life, its just not healthy or a good look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
    I like to have my tribalism strictly defined, and importantly, walled off from normal communication with other humans as much as possible in daily life. That's why i like Man United and fucking hate scousers, but also see it is a retarded position to hold. The duality of Fan. 90 minutes maybe twice a week will get you through. No need to be a little Englander all your life, its just not healthy or a good look.
    I like u m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoirAvlaa View Post
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    I like to have my tribalism strictly defined, and importantly, walled off from normal communication with other humans as much as possible in daily life. That's why i like Man United and fucking hate scousers, but also see it is a retarded position to hold. The duality of Fan. 90 minutes maybe twice a week will get you through. No need to be a little Englander all your life, its just not healthy or a good look.
    I like u m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckslayer View Post
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    I like to have my tribalism strictly defined, and importantly, walled off from normal communication with other humans as much as possible in daily life. That's why i like Man United and fucking hate scousers, but also see it is a retarded position to hold. The duality of Fan. 90 minutes maybe twice a week will get you through. No need to be a little Englander all your life, its just not healthy or a good look.
    I like u m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Contemporary Poster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Why is patriotism important?

    Surely it is just a means of cultural stabilisation for the benefit of the bourgeois establishment?

    Why is finding fellowship with your countrymen more important than fellowship on any other lines? Other lines which may in fact prove to be built on more than mere coincidence of birth geography?
    Because it allows us a good framework to have different opinions while remaining united. I feel a lot of the division of Brexit is in part related to this because many people have identified as being European more than British and this has led to a febrile atmosphere where people seem actively angry that others have a different opinion to them. That's my view anyway.

    It's also quite important for the social contract.
    I actually agree with Smuggo here. Being proud of shared identity is the basis of all society and community

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Why is patriotism important?

    Surely it is just a means of cultural stabilisation for the benefit of the bourgeois establishment?

    Why is finding fellowship with your countrymen more important than fellowship on any other lines? Other lines which may in fact prove to be built on more than mere coincidence of birth geography?
    1/10 tbh. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
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    Why is patriotism important?

    Surely it is just a means of cultural stabilisation for the benefit of the bourgeois establishment?

    Why is finding fellowship with your countrymen more important than fellowship on any other lines? Other lines which may in fact prove to be built on more than mere coincidence of birth geography?
    Because it allows us a good framework to have different opinions while remaining united. I feel a lot of the division of Brexit is in part related to this because many people have identified as being European more than British and this has led to a febrile atmosphere where people seem actively angry that others have a different opinion to them. That's my view anyway.

    It's also quite important for the social contract.
    I actually agree with Smuggo here. Being proud of shared identity is the basis of all society and community
    Indeed understanding this is what made me reject socialism as it invariably tries to sow divisions by creating an enemy class in order to gain power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Contemporary Poster View Post

    Indeed understanding this is what made me reject socialism as it invariably tries to sow divisions by creating an enemy class in order to gain power.
    You clearly need to read more about socialism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Indeed understanding this is what made me reject socialism as it invariably tries to sow divisions by creating an enemy class in order to gain power.
    You clearly need to read more about socialism.
    Okay, revolutionary socialism might be more accurate. Though I'm personally erring towards the small state capitalism model, with more focus on sensible state intervention (like publicly owned railways and other natural monopolies) with far less intervention in virtually everything else and significant reduction in the welfare state.

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    OK, let's shrink the welfare state. So Smuggo, how much would you reduce the state pension by?

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    This is why people think youve had a stroke or are trolling

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