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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
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    Only 60?

    Hate to be *that* guy, but ancient sexuality was thought of in a way different categories than ours. It's really a mixed bag. For example Romans, while somewhat allowing men-men sex (not marriages or relationships), they also had a really unhealthy obsession with their idea of masculinity which said that a man always have to take a dominant role. So while penetrating men of lower status (slaves usually, and let me tell you, being a slave was essentially being also a sex toy for your master) was ok for aristocracy/citizens, being penetrated was a sign of weakness and of, what a suprise, femininity. Hell, the term patriarchy is roman in origin. Romans, or generally ancients, didn't really think in the terms of sexual orientations. Love and sex were, at least in cultural texts, usually separate too.

    The people the meme is looking for are some Greek cultures, the ones that come into mind first are Sparta, where soldiers were expected to have sex with each others to strenghten bonds and Thebes with its Sacred Band, where the men formed actual relationships.

    Women's sexuality in ancient times is also a really fascinating, if usually sad, topic (I'm looking at you Athens). In general the ancient sexuality can be really fucking alien *and* relatable at the same time.
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    well ackshually but with a camp accent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venec View Post
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    Only 60?

    Hate to be *that* guy, but ancient sexuality was thought of in a way different categories than ours. It's really a mixed bag. For example Romans, while somewhat allowing men-men sex (not marriages or relationships), they also had a really unhealthy obsession with their idea of masculinity which said that a man always have to take a dominant role. So while penetrating men of lower status (slaves usually, and let me tell you, being a slave was essentially being also a sex toy for your master) was ok for aristocracy/citizens, being penetrated was a sign of weakness and of, what a suprise, femininity. Hell, the term patriarchy is roman in origin. Romans, or generally ancients, didn't really think in the terms of sexual orientations. Love and sex were, at least in cultural texts, usually separate too.

    The people the meme is looking for are some Greek cultures, the ones that come into mind first are Sparta, where soldiers were expected to have sex with each others to strenghten bonds and Thebes with its Sacred Band, where the men formed actual relationships.

    Women's sexuality in ancient times is also a really fascinating, if usually sad, topic (I'm looking at you Athens). In general the ancient sexuality can be really fucking alien *and* relatable at the same time.
    Why do you know this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venec View Post
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    Only 60?

    Hate to be *that* guy, but ancient sexuality was thought of in a way different categories than ours. It's really a mixed bag. For example Romans, while somewhat allowing men-men sex (not marriages or relationships), they also had a really unhealthy obsession with their idea of masculinity which said that a man always have to take a dominant role. So while penetrating men of lower status (slaves usually, and let me tell you, being a slave was essentially being also a sex toy for your master) was ok for aristocracy/citizens, being penetrated was a sign of weakness and of, what a suprise, femininity. Hell, the term patriarchy is roman in origin. Romans, or generally ancients, didn't really think in the terms of sexual orientations. Love and sex were, at least in cultural texts, usually separate too.

    The people the meme is looking for are some Greek cultures, the ones that come into mind first are Sparta, where soldiers were expected to have sex with each others to strenghten bonds and Thebes with its Sacred Band, where the men formed actual relationships.

    Women's sexuality in ancient times is also a really fascinating, if usually sad, topic (I'm looking at you Athens). In general the ancient sexuality can be really fucking alien *and* relatable at the same time.
    Gaaaaay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    Why do you know this?
    Listen to enough history podcasts and this will come up eventually.

    For example, the Roman emperor Hadrian's boy toy drowned in the Nile so Hadrian named a city after him and built a bunch of temples in his honor.

    Upper class Romans would also be teased relentlessly by their peers if they actually loved their wives.
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    Fucking yawn. Muh white liberals.

    Identity politics is basically what the whole of the right is based on these days and has otherwise been exploiting for an eternity, but muh white liberals hurr. And No I'm not watching it because I'm so over this asinine "debate" from 2016.
    "Identity Politics" is when minorities start asking for rights and equal treatment.
    Kneeling is a disrespectiful form of protests!

    They should be kneeling sincerely
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
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    From that dumpster fire of a thread.

    Only 60?

    Hate to be *that* guy, but ancient sexuality was thought of in a way different categories than ours. It's really a mixed bag. For example Romans, while somewhat allowing men-men sex (not marriages or relationships), they also had a really unhealthy obsession with their idea of masculinity which said that a man always have to take a dominant role. So while penetrating men of lower status (slaves usually, and let me tell you, being a slave was essentially being also a sex toy for your master) was ok for aristocracy/citizens, being penetrated was a sign of weakness and of, what a suprise, femininity. Hell, the term patriarchy is roman in origin. Romans, or generally ancients, didn't really think in the terms of sexual orientations. Love and sex were, at least in cultural texts, usually separate too.

    The people the meme is looking for are some Greek cultures, the ones that come into mind first are Sparta, where soldiers were expected to have sex with each others to strenghten bonds and Thebes with its Sacred Band, where the men formed actual relationships.

    Women's sexuality in ancient times is also a really fascinating, if usually sad, topic (I'm looking at you Athens). In general the ancient sexuality can be really fucking alien *and* relatable at the same time.
    Why do you know this?
    Because he isn't retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
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    From that dumpster fire of a thread.

    Only 60?

    Hate to be *that* guy, but ancient sexuality was thought of in a way different categories than ours. It's really a mixed bag. For example Romans, while somewhat allowing men-men sex (not marriages or relationships), they also had a really unhealthy obsession with their idea of masculinity which said that a man always have to take a dominant role. So while penetrating men of lower status (slaves usually, and let me tell you, being a slave was essentially being also a sex toy for your master) was ok for aristocracy/citizens, being penetrated was a sign of weakness and of, what a suprise, femininity. Hell, the term patriarchy is roman in origin. Romans, or generally ancients, didn't really think in the terms of sexual orientations. Love and sex were, at least in cultural texts, usually separate too.

    The people the meme is looking for are some Greek cultures, the ones that come into mind first are Sparta, where soldiers were expected to have sex with each others to strenghten bonds and Thebes with its Sacred Band, where the men formed actual relationships.

    Women's sexuality in ancient times is also a really fascinating, if usually sad, topic (I'm looking at you Athens). In general the ancient sexuality can be really fucking alien *and* relatable at the same time.
    Why do you know this?
    Because he isn't retarded.
    Or lives in a country with decent education. It's what you learn in high school here when going through period history. In b4 american history started 250 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Or lives in a country with decent education. It's what you learn in high school here when going through period history. In b4 american history started 250 years ago.
    Pretty much. Hellenic sexuality wasn't a subject in school but culture and philosophy were and there's two types of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
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    From that dumpster fire of a thread.

    Only 60?

    Hate to be *that* guy, but ancient sexuality was thought of in a way different categories than ours. It's really a mixed bag. For example Romans, while somewhat allowing men-men sex (not marriages or relationships), they also had a really unhealthy obsession with their idea of masculinity which said that a man always have to take a dominant role. So while penetrating men of lower status (slaves usually, and let me tell you, being a slave was essentially being also a sex toy for your master) was ok for aristocracy/citizens, being penetrated was a sign of weakness and of, what a suprise, femininity. Hell, the term patriarchy is roman in origin. Romans, or generally ancients, didn't really think in the terms of sexual orientations. Love and sex were, at least in cultural texts, usually separate too.

    The people the meme is looking for are some Greek cultures, the ones that come into mind first are Sparta, where soldiers were expected to have sex with each others to strenghten bonds and Thebes with its Sacred Band, where the men formed actual relationships.

    Women's sexuality in ancient times is also a really fascinating, if usually sad, topic (I'm looking at you Athens). In general the ancient sexuality can be really fucking alien *and* relatable at the same time.
    Why do you know this?
    Because he isn't retarded.
    Or lives in a country with decent education. It's what you learn in high school here when going through period history. In b4 american history started 250 years ago.
    While antiquity lessons gave you somewhat decent outlook how Rome or Greece looked (you don't learn the sex stuff in it), more modern history lessons are just a lecture how poles are victims throughout the ages and everything was great till partitions happened. So yeaaaahhhh.

    But I do read some books about antiquity (I love to imagine Europe from that era, when p. much everything was covered in primordial forests and most of the time untouched by humans, the photos I'd make, merely thinking about it makes me drool) . And ancient love life is just really juicy/interesting to read about. For example, the heart symbol we commonly associate with love today dates back to Roman times. It's depicting the seeds of now extinct giant fennel species which was used in birth control. It was said to be so effective and widely used that ancients drove it to extinction. Romans also held a belief that there was a vein extending from the fourth finger of the left hand that went straight to the heart. That's why, starting from middle ages, we place the wedding ring on that finger.
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    It might depend on the teacher but I distinctly remember discussing it as almost everone in the class turned into bBeavis and went full lolgay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    It might depend on the teacher but I distinctly remember discussing it as almost everone in the class turned into bBeavis and went full lolgay.
    You're right. Now I remember mine going out of her way to teach us about Marx when we discussed 19th century, how he supported people's right for independent rule and how awful the workers conditions were, etc. As to be expected, nearly everyone turned into Beavis too and went full lolgulags.

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    Would Beavis even know what the gulags were?

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    No, he'd think its a Russian heavy metal band. Gvlag.
    I was somewhere around Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when drugs began to take hold.

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    No, he'd think its a Russian heavy metal band. Gvlag.
    The episode almost writes itself.

    Butthead in corpse paint. In Stalingrad.

    James Earl Jones voices the Sargent in charge of the Shtrafbat.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Ah the old "centrists are actually the real leftists because it helps my argument against them".

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillian View Post
    The reality is that the left is infested with carpetbaggers, virtue signalers, and woke weirdoes who have driven the working class into the arms of populist scumbags and nationalist grifters.
    Nah, that's the PLP
    Is it really that worse than "the middle class are the true bastions of working class values" which the socialist left has become?
    Maybe some people believe there is the possible alternative to capitalism and we can all gain back some humanity.
    The british working class has always been rather more tempted by fascism.
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    Fucking yawn. Muh white liberals.

    Identity politics is basically what the whole of the right is based on these days and has otherwise been exploiting for an eternity, but muh white liberals hurr. And No I'm not watching it because I'm so over this asinine "debate" from 2016.
    "Identity Politics" is when minorities start asking for rights and equal treatment.
    Kneeling is a disrespectiful form of protests!

    They should be kneeling sincerely
    Its really disrespectful they aren’t putting their own boots on their necks.
    meh

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    about: revolutions, anglosaxon inheritance, modern times, left and right, centrism, falling and continuation of empires, new economics etc. not a bad talk with an old historian geezer
    I was somewhere around Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when drugs began to take hold.

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    "woke culture" and "trigger" on the thumb and title

    Jesus fucking christ its like a glorious mix of obvious clickbait dickhead

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