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    Okay, if you want to talk about psychedelics then Sam Harris probably has something useful to say.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Normally I'm not a fan of "gender swap an existing character because muh equality", but even I have to admit that Doctor Who is perhaps the one time you can get away with it and still maintain an internally consistent character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
    Normally I'm not a fan of "gender swap an existing character because muh equality", but even I have to admit that Doctor Who is perhaps the one time you can get away with it and still maintain an internally consistent character.


    What does changing a characters gender have to do with "muh equality"

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    What does changing a characters gender have to do with "muh equality"
    What indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
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    What does changing a characters gender have to do with "muh equality"
    What indeed.
    Is it actually about ethics in actor casting now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    8.5k comments.

    Jesus christ.
    I bet they're all supportive, too.
    Quite a few mention cultural marxism. Pseudo intellectualism on MY Daily Mail comments section?!
    They're all clued up on Marxism on the Heil and Torygraph comments now. They're terrified that famed Marxist Jeremy Corbyn will soon be sending them all to gulag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post

    They're all clued up on Marxism on the Heil and Torygraph comments now. They're terrified that famed Marxist Jeremy Corbyn will soon be sending them all to gulag.
    Goddamn Marx and his manifesto give aways to the university attending middle classes! Labour would've never thought up that policy on their own!
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    It's not a giveaway m8, university fees cost the state more than just paying for it upfront.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    It's not a giveaway m8, university fees cost the state more than just paying for it upfront.
    It's a middle class vote grabber. It has minimal appeal to the working classes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    It's not a giveaway m8, university fees cost the state more than just paying for it upfront.
    It's a middle class vote grabber. It has minimal appeal to the working classes.
    Only if the middle class are the only ones with aspiration or a desire for better education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    It's not a giveaway m8, university fees cost the state more than just paying for it upfront.
    It's a middle class vote grabber. It has minimal appeal to the working classes.
    Middle class is not working class? This some communist propaganda thing, or you talking like a Republican who thinks you need to make $200k a year before you are middle class?
    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
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    It's not a giveaway m8, university fees cost the state more than just paying for it upfront.
    It's a middle class vote grabber. It has minimal appeal to the working classes.
    Middle class is not working class? This some communist propaganda thing, or you talking like a Republican who thinks you need to make $200k a year before you are middle class?
    According to some folks; you are only middle class if the larger part of your income is made from investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
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    It's not a giveaway m8, university fees cost the state more than just paying for it upfront.
    It's a middle class vote grabber. It has minimal appeal to the working classes.
    Middle class is not working class? This some communist propaganda thing, or you talking like a Republican who thinks you need to make $200k a year before you are middle class?
    In the UK middle class broadly means white collar workers. Working class means blue collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
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    It's not a giveaway m8, university fees cost the state more than just paying for it upfront.
    It's a middle class vote grabber. It has minimal appeal to the working classes.
    Middle class is not working class? This some communist propaganda thing, or you talking like a Republican who thinks you need to make $200k a year before you are middle class?


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    people with university education are probably less likely to think communism is a workable idea so i can see keckers objection

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    people with university education are probably less likely to think communism is a workable idea so i can see keckers objection
    Communism is now the most popular political philosophy among educated middle class professionals actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    Only if the middle class are the only ones with aspiration or a desire for better education.
    They typically are (at least with higher education), my housemate is writing his masters' dissertation on the subject and there's a growing body of academics getting interested in the phenomenon.

    A big problem in sociology at the moment is defining class, since the lines have been blurred by generations who were socially mobile between 1950 and the mid 80s, and then further blurred by the economic exodus from Britains' industrial heartlands in the north. There are several ways to define class, the academic (and I think lazy) way is currently looking at kids who receive free school meals; which is quite exclusionary but makes research and data gathering simpler. You can also look at the trajectory of socially mobile family units, self assessment of class (since class is also cultural, and the cultural aspects change much more slowly than the economic aspects), earning potential, cultural capital, precariousness of living etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    people with university education are probably less likely to think communism is a workable idea so i can see keckers objection
    Strawmen can think a huge variety of things!
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Only if the middle class are the only ones with aspiration or a desire for better education.
    They typically are (at least with higher education), my housemate is writing his masters' dissertation on the subject and there's a growing body of academics getting interested in the phenomenon.

    A big problem in sociology at the moment is defining class, since the lines have been blurred by generations who were socially mobile between 1950 and the mid 80s, and then further blurred by the economic exodus from Britains' industrial heartlands in the north. There are several ways to define class, the academic (and I think lazy) way is currently looking at kids who receive free school meals; which is quite exclusionary but makes research and data gathering simpler. You can also look at the trajectory of socially mobile family units, self assessment of class (since class is also cultural, and the cultural aspects change much more slowly than the economic aspects), earning potential, cultural capital, precariousness of living etc.
    a true middle class has never been tried in other words?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evil edna View Post
    a true middle class has never been tried in other words?
    Your posting has been boring and predictable recently. Did you open the curtains for 5 minutes and get severe sunstroke?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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