Gun Thread (AK appreciation)

Why would you need a supertucker xx9000? I mean are you planning to carry the gun around to work nd shit?

Or is it just for coolnes at the shooting range?

What about a sig p226 or an FN Five seveN for concealed, its what the secret service uses so you know the quality is going to be tops and they regularly carry concealed so you know it will work. I can't remember why I know what the secret service carries off the top of my head, but they have to be good weapons. I cant remember where your from right now, but the 5-7 may be illegal in your area as it comes with a 20 shot clip standard, and some politicians are weary of it because the military/police rounds for it pierce Kevlar at 30m(may be shorter but it was surprisingly long if I remember correctly). Proponents of the brady bill say that even the civilian round can penetrate 25m.

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What about a sig p226 or an FN Five seveN for concealed, its what the secret service uses so you know the quality is going to be tops and they regularly carry concealed so you know it will work. I can't remember why I know what the secret service carries off the top of my head, but they have to be good weapons. I cant remember where your from right now, but the 5-7 may be illegal in your area as it comes with a 20 shot clip standard, and some politicians are weary of it because the military/police rounds for it pierce Kevlar at 30m(may be shorter but it was surprisingly long if I remember correctly). Proponents of the brady bill say that even the civilian round can penetrate 25m.

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Unless you're planning on facing people in body armor and want a more compact carbine than an M4, then stay away from it. Secret service only uses it in the P90 config. which is an ultra compact carbine and offers better penetration than an MP5K and a 50rd mag. It's used as a briefcase support gun and replaced the older UZI and MP5K. As far as wound trauma goes..the Fort Shooter dumped over 100 rounds and killed 13 people in a packed theater. That's not very good results in a real life scenario and gel tests show it to be a poor performer as well.

p226's are beautiful guns but are still in the high end of prices. Other guns like the SW M&P series match their reliability while still being priced mid-range. Many LEO's are moving towards the M&P series and away from old traditionals like Sig or Glock.

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Why would you need a supertucker xx9000? I mean are you planning to carry the gun around to work nd shit?

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Yes. Work (if allowed), home, at the store, at the movies, out jogging, etc.

is America really that dangerous?

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is America really that dangerous?

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i too would like to know this.

as me and mates are going trucking through Alabama this summer, should we skip the SUV and go for a pickup with a 50. cal instead?

No. Which is why i wrote L.o.L in the first place. Concealed carry is nice if ur a cop and all, but honestly. for civilians who dont have a history with people who might want to harm them i think its just retarded.

x-post from pictures but

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/...cb1eb898_b.jpg

Try this at home kids.

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x-post from pictures but

[img]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5632598809_cecb1eb898_b.jpg[img]

Try this at home kids.

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Doubt there's enough power.

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While close range and absense of body armor kind of makes makarov better suited for such scenario. Better suited than what exactly? Against 9x19 and larger, it's a poor performing round. There are precious few alternatives to FMJ's on the market for the gun either.

Smooth edges. Mass center barely past the trigger. Recoil shoulder shorter than any parabellum pistol. Standard grip provides excellent grip, derp. A short recoil is not the same as a smooth recoil. Grip is shit like most Russian weapons. It does not fit in the hand well nor provides excellent grip memory which is crucial when drawing the weapon and taking up your stance. Shorter slide which gives a smaller sight radius which gives worse aimed accuracy.

And the trigger is quite easy if you know what the fuck you are talking about. Long trigger pulls are not fun and usually reserved for backup guns. Long trigger pulls with lots of overtravel and a slop feel at the break = shit trigger.

Not a target pistol. It's working distance is 25m and closer. 5-25m is pretty standard for all pistols. But cheap tiny pressed sights with a small front wedge and a thin rear sight makes for difficult acquisition of a target. Unless you're one of those faggots that tries to say pistols are for "point shooting", this is a big issue and why many old and new firearms have larger well marked sights.

Something tells me you wouldn't carry your own girlfirend if she wouldn't have a "Made in USA" tattoo. You do realize that the Glock was invented and made by an Austrian? I would run an HK mk23 if I had the cash and patience to put up with their bullshit. Getting bent over to pay $50+ for a single 12rd mag is disconcerting. But otherwise, there just aren't that many decent handguns coming out of Europe and definitely not from Russia.

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Keep on trollin' while Bulgarian makarovs are a bestseller in USA since they hit the market~~~

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Originally Posted by Louis

is America really that dangerous?

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i too would like to know this.

as me and mates are going trucking through Alabama this summer, should we skip the SUV and go for a pickup with a 50. cal instead?

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Honestly, it really depends on where you live. Most cities are safe enough, but some are shit fucking shitholes. Seriously, Alabama, wtf?

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No. Which is why i wrote L.o.L in the first place. Concealed carry is nice if ur a cop and all, but honestly. for civilians who dont have a history with people who might want to harm them i think its just retarded.

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There are plenty of places with little to no crime around the US. There are other places with high levels of crime. There are places in large metro areas that you just don't go at night and surely don't flash any bling around. A CCL just covers the "just in case" gray area. You may never ever have to use your weapon. Or you could have someone drive a truck through the front door of your local cafeteria and go on a shooting and stabbing spree (see Suzanna Hupp). The whole "let the cops do that" is kind of missing that point that cops aren't going to be there when a crime occurs and will more than likely solve it rather than stop it. So some people are willing to take it upon themselves to defend their person and property.

This shouldn't be an alien concept. The chances of many here getting their ass beat down or their wallets/girlfriends taken by some random punk is fairly thin and yet we would expect you to defend yourself. The same concept applies to a CCL but on a much higher level. About the only argument to make against it is the need for training equal to that of a police officer and yet that's not really that high.

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as me and mates are going trucking through Alabama this summer, should we skip the SUV and go for a pickup with a 50. cal instead?

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Bring the .50 if you write anything funny on the side of your car. Seriously though, Alabama? Good god why?!


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why alabama, its between san francisco and miami, also: we can then listen to Lynrd Skynrd (dont think i could talk the others into that otherwise).

edited double also: ogle rednecks.

Mami <-> san Francisco road trip? Both cities are nice, but everything in between is boooring.

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Mami <-> san Francisco road trip? Both cities are nice, but everything in between is boooring.

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The road trip is in between :colbert:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eyr_AUG_A3.jpg

Austria.. Making the most ugly guns in the world since 1977

Oh shut up.

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/image...as20/aug_s.jpg

AUG was pretty sexy before it got into the whole picattiny thing.

Ooh... I like where this thread is going, I'll post a few of the guns I own when I upload the pics. I'm also going to shopping later this week for a nice .308 bolt action or .38 S&W revolver, depends on what I find.

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Yes. Work (if allowed), home, at the store, at the movies, out jogging, etc.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eyr_AUG_A3.jpg

Austria.. Making the most ugly guns in the world since 1977

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Blasphemer! :o

I keed, I keed. :D

The AUG A3 looks really shit, but as a rifle it is sweet. Short overall length and the reticle of the scope (A1/A2) lets complete noobs hit mansized targets at 300m easily although the trigger is kinda 'meh'.

if we are just posting gun pron now il dump a few favs

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...7222101073.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/ubinox/02se2.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...4c41c71450.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...0861717492.jpg

http://tacticalgunsandgear.com/firea...p%20Trophy.jpg
Colt Gold Cup 1911, so much awesome. Colt's factory bull's eye pistol.

http://sgcusa.com/images/supporting_...tical_45_B.jpg
Springfield Armory XD .45 tactical, mah carry gun.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_40XDEXz_25...d_14623xx_.jpg
M1 Garand, my favorite shooting rifle

http://izhevsk.club.guns.ru/images/saiga12p.jpg
Saiga 12, favorite shotgun. I don't use the 20 round drum mags cuz they aren't reliable and cost $200 a pop. I just use 12 round box mags.

http://www.ohiogamefishing.com/commu...0&d=1275055590
Remington 700 .22-250, 3/8 MOA accurate. My grandfathers old rifle.