Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
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Given that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
Just a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoRGiven that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianecesJust a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoRGiven that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.
Next up: twist rates are wrong!
It was optimized for the M16, yes. And I would therefore expect the M16 to shoot better groups and at longer ranges than the M4.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoR4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianecesJust a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoRGiven that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.
Next up: twist rates are wrong!
Isn't M4 technically a carbine? I also want to see AK-101 comparison against HK416.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianecesIt was optimized for the M16, yes. And I would therefore expect the M16 to shoot better groups and at longer ranges than the M4.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoR4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianecesJust a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoRGiven that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.
Next up: twist rates are wrong!
I am pretty sure Razor has AK-74 dakimakura.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianecesJust a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoRGiven that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
Its lovely to see the lack of basic ballistic understanding with the Razor displayed so openly.
Its absord to see these discussion on accuracy between AK and AR rifles. The AR platform constructively can be bolt-action accurate, as shown with guns produced to match grade specs. The AK is an outdated shit platform that is neither as accurate nor practical as an AR. And when you take cutting edge HK piston guns, its not even as reliable.
And since we have too much russian armchair quarterbacking in here, I actually have an AK and an AR here. And not one of the lol russiacivillian AK with the "step" in the chamber.
Razor played paintball once. He knows everything about ballistics.Quote:
Originally Posted by metacannibal
Well fuck, longer barrels provide better ballistics (even if it would shoot m4 ammo), more news at 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianecesIt was optimized for the M16, yes. And I would therefore expect the M16 to shoot better groups and at longer ranges than the M4.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoR4 inches that M16 has over it are even more so, no? Unless SS-109 wasn't optimized for 20 inches as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianecesJust a hair under two inches, which I wouldn't really expect you to understand the significance of given that I'm not entirely convinced you've ever held a real firearm. Hint: two inches of barrel is pretty significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoRGiven that AK-101's barrel is marginally longer than M4's ahhh fukkitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dianeces
The point of this table is that AK has comparable grouping if it shoots the same ammo but you went straight off da railz in defence of saint M4.
Next up: twist rates are wrong!
I wonder what don vomited in here.
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Originally Posted by RazoR
You are such a moron its wonderful. Longer barrels are technically speaking, providing that propellant burn is over and that the bullet was stabilized, BAD for precision (which is what you implicitly use for accuracy for a lack of better grasp of technical terms on your part).
Hence "precision" focused barrels are actually very thick, to minimize barrel harmonics. And, in relation to thickness, short. Just because "SNIPAH RIFLES" have rather long barrels does not make that more precise as average precision with great accuracy is what they require. The long barrels are used for different reasons, but the fuck would you know about shit since you know guns from world.guns.ru .
http://2poqx8tjzgi65olp24je4x4n.wpen...s-Accuracy.png
Heres a picture for you, since in Russia you cant have guns because of dictator putaine and his wisdom. And I mean this seriously, because guns and alcohol dont mix, and i have never seen a sober russian.
That chart also shows proper application of marksmanship principles
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Likely carries 3 pistols in addition to the G36 ,reloads are for tourists.
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Note the insurance plate at the front. :-)
meanwhile in russia
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He'd rather miss his target than risk touching another man's car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candy Crush
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There can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candy Crush
There can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candy Crush
id have imagined that if it was loaded with less than leathals it would be colourisedQuote:
Originally Posted by metacannibalThere can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candy Crush
protip: one holster is for teaserQuote:
Originally Posted by metacannibalThere can be a couple of reasons for that. Notice how one is a level2 and the other is a level3 holster. Could be that they are loaded with different ammunition types for different tasks where a rifle would be too powerful and cause collateral damage by overpenetration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candy Crush
Not talking less than lethal ammo, but something along the lines of frangible. Good enough to shoot someone without shooting the person right behind it, but utterly useless against anything "hard".Quote:
Originally Posted by sarabando
Also we are talking two pistols (and no tasers, what a protip, lol), one is a compact, looks like a hk or sig, and the other one is a full sized pistol with a laser, as evident from the holster.
One with the laser is HK P30 (not exactly "full size", that would be HK 45 or USP), the smaller one is HK P2000 (not exactly compact, that would be P2000SK).Quote:
Originally Posted by metacannibal
I think P2000 is just a backup. (It also appears that P2000 does not have a magazine in it).