This is why you're a fucking awful rep of the gun normal gun lobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
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This is why you're a fucking awful rep of the gun normal gun lobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
I don't think that producing military grade 9mm would affect production of their cheap shit tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaculDoesnt this have to do with that recent article in the guardian about the average amount of bullets used in the conflict areas? IIIRC it said ammo makers around the world struggle to keep up with demand, which has skyrocketedQuote:
Originally Posted by KeorytheI usually don't have any luck finding 9mm or .380 at Walmarts. Before this talk of ban that stuff would sell out after about 3 days. You would think they would order a lot more as this was a recurring theme. Now I think people camp out when the truck shows up. I be Lee press loaders are also selling out. Actually, this would be a good excuse for me to finally buy one. #guiltybuyQuote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
Also Tyrus, that made zero sense. Please refer to my recent post in the BOBS thread.
No my point is that you're theoretically correct: the 9mm FMJ is far removed from the gun control legislation, and thus it makes zero sense if people were stockpiling......
hence the fact that you don't "get" why gun owners are (apparently) stockpiling 9mm FMJ is why you aren't a good representative of the gun lobby voice.
To clarify further that lobby... more specifically the constituents who most passionately back the "gun lobby" honestly believe buying 9mm FMJ is important today, because "the liberal agenda" is going to restrict it "soon" (TM etc)... which doesn't make sense given proposed restrictions (which, again and nearly circulalry, is why somebody who KNOWS that the 9mm FMJ market shouldn't be affected is not a good rep of the gun owning lobby)
edit: your observation in the BOPS thread is correct. I am merely knowingly disregarding it.
I think I'm understanding now; are you referencing their desire to ban 'military' calibers?
Edit for your edit: fair nuff o/\o
nah it has very little to do with what "might" actually be banned, and more to do with the fact that somebody who realizes "9mm FMJ" is not on the "ban" table is not a good rep for the really fucking fringe people who (apparently) believe ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BANNED and reactionarily buy out shit like 9mm FMJ even though the idea that it'd be pulled off shelves in America any time soon is patently ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
So basically you're saying I'm a sane gun owner? <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebrosnah it has very little to do with what "might" actually be banned, and more to do with the fact that somebody who realizes "9mm FMJ" is not on the "ban" table is not a good rep for the really fucking fringe people who (apparently) believe ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BANNED and reactionarily buy out shit like 9mm FMJ even though the idea that it'd be pulled off shelves in America any time soon is patently ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
I do agree that the gun lobbyists have gone full retard \:
Yeah basicallyQuote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroManSo basically you're saying I'm a sane gun owner? <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebrosnah it has very little to do with what "might" actually be banned, and more to do with the fact that somebody who realizes "9mm FMJ" is not on the "ban" table is not a good rep for the really fucking fringe people who (apparently) believe ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BANNED and reactionarily buy out shit like 9mm FMJ even though the idea that it'd be pulled off shelves in America any time soon is patently ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
I do agree that the gun lobbyists have gone full retard \:
I think the majority of ammo stockpiling comes from the fact that people started stockpiling for the fear that supply would be limited because of everyone stockpiling for the fear that supply would be limited because of everyone stockpiling for the fear that supply would be limited because of everyone stockpiling for the fear that supply would be limited because of everyone stockpiling for the fear that supply would be limited because of everyone stockpiling
Sadly, I will now be part of the paranoid buying. After not being able to find ammo for weeks, it'll buy extra next time I see any in stock just so I don't have to deal with this. It's interfering with my hobby of putting holes in paper. Sadly, the types I am looking for used to be ridiculously easy to get, and are now sold out in every store, online or local.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soapy5
Yeah, I'm not unfamiliar with fabricating stuff. But like you said later on, it's the tooling that gets you. When I built my truck rack (2x simple trapezoidal arches out of aluminum aircraft struts), designing and building the wood framing to hold the pieces at the right locations and angles while being welded took longer than actually building the rack. I can only imagine it'd be worse for something that has potential to blow up in my face if I do it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keorythe
If I do any combustion based projectile launcher building in the near future, it'll probably be a spud cannon that isn't a massive pain to operate. At least PVC construction works a lot more like legos in that everything just snaps together.
I was kinda hoping that was a new text effect...Quote:
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If you are making a rifle, yea you need some tools to do so. But you can make a 12 gauge shotgun with parts from home depot:Quote:
Originally Posted by dpidcoeYeah, I'm not unfamiliar with fabricating stuff. But like you said later on, it's the tooling that gets you. When I built my truck rack (2x simple trapezoidal arches out of aluminum aircraft struts), designing and building the wood framing to hold the pieces at the right locations and angles while being welded took longer than actually building the rack. I can only imagine it'd be worse for something that has potential to blow up in my face if I do it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keorythe
If I do any combustion based projectile launcher building in the near future, it'll probably be a spud cannon that isn't a massive pain to operate. At least PVC construction works a lot more like legos in that everything just snaps together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1wV3lmbSv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDgHi_9_LX0
You all do realize that these new laws are scores of pages long? And came out 5 days prior to my taking the gun in? I suspected what they told me was the case but, seeking expert opinion is preferable to figuring about 150 pages of cryptic legalese.Quote:
Originally Posted by F*** My Aunt RitaThe new laws were heavily written about and made national news. Unless he lives in a cave, yes he should've been familiarized.Quote:
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Originally Posted by TellentaYou should of familiarized yourself with state law?Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacy
In fact, it even took them 3 tries to properly place my gun in the states new 'framework'.
It's exempt from being classified as an assault rifle for having a bayonet mount due to it's date of manufacture (1945). It's is classified as an assault rifle for a)being semi-automatic b)having a detachable magazine c)having a barrel shroud. Plus, the 8 round magazine is illegal.
I can sell it out of state, to a dealer, for 12months. After I can't sell it to anyone but can xfer ownership to an immediate family member. What I want to know is, where do I go to get compensated for the value of my private property they just destroyed?
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Move to NH.Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacyYou all do realize that these new laws are scores of pages long? And came out 5 days prior to my taking the gun in? I suspected what they told me was the case but, seeking expert opinion is preferable to figuring about 150 pages of cryptic legalese.Quote:
Originally Posted by F*** My Aunt RitaThe new laws were heavily written about and made national news. Unless he lives in a cave, yes he should've been familiarized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soapy5L2RQuote:
Originally Posted by TellentaYou should of familiarized yourself with state law?Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacy
In fact, it even took them 3 tries to properly place my gun in the states new 'framework'.
It's exempt from being classified as an assault rifle for having a bayonet mount due to it's date of manufacture (1945). It's is classified as an assault rifle for a)being semi-automatic b)having a detachable magazine c)having a barrel shroud. Plus, the 8 round magazine is illegal.
I can sell it out of state, to a dealer, for 12months. After I can't sell it to anyone but can xfer ownership to an immediate family member. What I want to know is, where do I go to get compensated for the value of my private property they just destroyed?
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And what do you think a dealer is going to give me for a gun he knows I **HAVE** to sell? A fair price?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool09Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacy
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Lose it in a boating accident.
Free markets, yall. A fair price is one that people are prepared to pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacyAnd what do you think a dealer is going to give me for a gun he knows I **HAVE** to sell? A fair price?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool09Quote:
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And quit bitching. Governments make law that affect the value of people's property without compensating them every day.
You have 12 months, and there are at least a few dealers outside of your state to choose from. Get on the horn and get some offers.Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacyAnd what do you think a dealer is going to give me for a gun he knows I **HAVE** to sell? A fair price?Quote:
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Maybe if you waited until the last day, and if there was only one dealer in the entire US of A you would have a point.
Exactly fuck NY. NH 4 lyfe(also I build guns there, its a chill place, newport to be exact) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Takon OrlaniMove to NH.Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacyYou all do realize that these new laws are scores of pages long? And came out 5 days prior to my taking the gun in? I suspected what they told me was the case but, seeking expert opinion is preferable to figuring about 150 pages of cryptic legalese.Quote:
Originally Posted by F*** My Aunt RitaThe new laws were heavily written about and made national news. Unless he lives in a cave, yes he should've been familiarized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soapy5L2RQuote:
Originally Posted by TellentaYou should of familiarized yourself with state law?Quote:
Originally Posted by indeterminacy
In fact, it even took them 3 tries to properly place my gun in the states new 'framework'.
It's exempt from being classified as an assault rifle for having a bayonet mount due to it's date of manufacture (1945). It's is classified as an assault rifle for a)being semi-automatic b)having a detachable magazine c)having a barrel shroud. Plus, the 8 round magazine is illegal.
I can sell it out of state, to a dealer, for 12months. After I can't sell it to anyone but can xfer ownership to an immediate family member. What I want to know is, where do I go to get compensated for the value of my private property they just destroyed?
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