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October 10 2013, 04:12:15 PM
AndersonW

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October 10 2013, 04:36:50 PM
smuggo

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

Actually you hit the nail right on the head.. I'm struggling with sight picture. I am having issues focusing on the white with orange contrast for this shot... I blurred a bit. I have said for awhile I need glasses, but I mean if the target were darker I'd prolly be more consistant.

Either way.. first time shooting it. I'm taking it out again tomorrow.

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I do hope you were standing when you did that grouping.

As for zeroing at 25m... It'll do for a check zero but if you're doing a weapon from scratch you should really be at 100m.
October 10 2013, 04:37:42 PM
VladCetes

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Originally Posted by Cue1*

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

Kelly was looking at a Sig232, which is similar in shape.. I hated that gun.

Buy a Bersa, same gun, much cheaper, works perfectly fine.

The only Bersa's worth a shit are the older, steel ones. The new aluminum & plastic ones are less reliable than a politician and work less than Congress. Them & Taureses are the guns I see brought in the most for repairs.

If you don't like the P232, get a PPK/S.
October 10 2013, 04:40:36 PM
AndersonW

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Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

Actually you hit the nail right on the head.. I'm struggling with sight picture. I am having issues focusing on the white with orange contrast for this shot... I blurred a bit. I have said for awhile I need glasses, but I mean if the target were darker I'd prolly be more consistant.

Either way.. first time shooting it. I'm taking it out again tomorrow.

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I do hope you were standing when you did that grouping.

As for zeroing at 25m... It'll do for a check zero but if you're doing a weapon from scratch you should really be at 100m.

No. Sitting at a table and sitting on the ground. First time firing the SAIGA.

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October 10 2013, 04:45:39 PM
VladCetes

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YOU MUST CONVERT ADDITIONAL SAIGAS!
October 10 2013, 04:47:01 PM
AndersonW

I am going to convert..m ill prolly have 3 by the time I'm finished.. cause... Zombies

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October 10 2013, 04:54:10 PM
Cue1*

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Originally Posted by VladCetes

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Originally Posted by Cue1*

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

Kelly was looking at a Sig232, which is similar in shape.. I hated that gun.

Buy a Bersa, same gun, much cheaper, works perfectly fine.

The only Bersa's worth a shit are the older, steel ones. The new aluminum & plastic ones are less reliable than a politician and work less than Congress. Them & Taureses are the guns I see brought in the most for repairs.

If you don't like the P232, get a PPK/S.

Only repair of the aluminum Bersas I've ever seen is mag lip bending...
October 11 2013, 05:07:58 PM
VladCetes

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Originally Posted by Cue1*

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Originally Posted by VladCetes

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Originally Posted by Cue1*

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

Kelly was looking at a Sig232, which is similar in shape.. I hated that gun.

Buy a Bersa, same gun, much cheaper, works perfectly fine.

The only Bersa's worth a shit are the older, steel ones. The new aluminum & plastic ones are less reliable than a politician and work less than Congress. Them & Taureses are the guns I see brought in the most for repairs.

If you don't like the P232, get a PPK/S.

Only repair of the aluminum Bersas I've ever seen is mag lip bending...

The major problem I say is failing to feed and jamming. Maybe that could be the cause.
October 11 2013, 05:27:19 PM
smuggo

Hi. As many of you know I'm a Britbong. In the new year I'll be getting a substantial raise and will be able to, among other things sustain firearms as a hobby. Pretty sure I'd have no dramas obtaining a firearms licence. But beyond the babby killing weapons employed by the British Army I have little knowledge of civilian shooting. Looking at maybe getting involved in some 'sport' shooting (ie hunting) and also some fun shooting.

For the Americlaps in the audience... restrictions, AFAIK for someone with a firearms certificate are shown here.

But the general TL;DR is:

No handguns.
No semi auto above .22LR (I would like one of these though.
October 11 2013, 05:37:45 PM
AndersonW

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Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler

Hi. As many of you know I'm a Britbong. In the new year I'll be getting a substantial raise and will be able to, among other things sustain firearms as a hobby. Pretty sure I'd have no dramas obtaining a firearms licence. But beyond the babby killing weapons employed by the British Army I have little knowledge of civilian shooting. Looking at maybe getting involved in some 'sport' shooting (ie hunting) and also some fun shooting.

For the Americlaps in the audience... restrictions, AFAIK for someone with a firearms certificate are shown here.

But the general TL;DR is:

No handguns.
No semi auto above .22LR (I would like one of these though.

That makes me the sad..... how would you own an incredible firearm like the SAIGA

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October 11 2013, 05:42:42 PM
cullnean

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

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Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler

Hi. As many of you know I'm a Britbong. In the new year I'll be getting a substantial raise and will be able to, among other things sustain firearms as a hobby. Pretty sure I'd have no dramas obtaining a firearms licence. But beyond the babby killing weapons employed by the British Army I have little knowledge of civilian shooting. Looking at maybe getting involved in some 'sport' shooting (ie hunting) and also some fun shooting.

For the Americlaps in the audience... restrictions, AFAIK for someone with a firearms certificate are shown here.

But the general TL;DR is:

No handguns.
No semi auto above .22LR (I would like one of these though.

That makes me the sad..... how would you own an incredible firearm like the SAIGA

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Illegally, so like 74% of Americans =)

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October 11 2013, 05:57:41 PM
smuggo

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

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Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler

Hi. As many of you know I'm a Britbong. In the new year I'll be getting a substantial raise and will be able to, among other things sustain firearms as a hobby. Pretty sure I'd have no dramas obtaining a firearms licence. But beyond the babby killing weapons employed by the British Army I have little knowledge of civilian shooting. Looking at maybe getting involved in some 'sport' shooting (ie hunting) and also some fun shooting.

For the Americlaps in the audience... restrictions, AFAIK for someone with a firearms certificate are shown here.

But the general TL;DR is:

No handguns.
No semi auto above .22LR (I would like one of these though.

That makes me the sad..... how would you own an incredible firearm like the SAIGA

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You shouldn't feel sad. Given your group size you should feel... hunted.
October 11 2013, 05:59:00 PM
AndersonW

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Originally Posted by cullnean

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

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Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler

Hi. As many of you know I'm a Britbong. In the new year I'll be getting a substantial raise and will be able to, among other things sustain firearms as a hobby. Pretty sure I'd have no dramas obtaining a firearms licence. But beyond the babby killing weapons employed by the British Army I have little knowledge of civilian shooting. Looking at maybe getting involved in some 'sport' shooting (ie hunting) and also some fun shooting.

For the Americlaps in the audience... restrictions, AFAIK for someone with a firearms certificate are shown here.

But the general TL;DR is:

No handguns.
No semi auto above .22LR (I would like one of these though.

That makes me the sad..... how would you own an incredible firearm like the SAIGA

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tapa4

Citation needed.

And lark you should own a Mosin... its a fabulous gun. Cheap.. effective... and tons of ammo.

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October 11 2013, 07:58:27 PM
dpidcoe

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

tons of ammo.

citation needed
October 11 2013, 08:38:12 PM
AndersonW

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Originally Posted by dpidcoe

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Originally Posted by AndersonW

tons of ammo.

citation needed

What surplus ammo?

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October 11 2013, 08:51:34 PM
dpidcoe

idk. I just remember that last time I looked surplus mosin ammo was getting expensive.
October 11 2013, 09:06:00 PM
Sofia Roseburn

Was going to say, the .22LR restriction only applies to semi-automatic rifles in the UK. You could own a Mosin Nagant with no problems whatsoever for example, although I think something like a Garand would be illegal.

Be a patriot, buy an SMLE and a tin hat. You're not going to be able to get yourself a pistol IIRC.
October 11 2013, 09:09:59 PM
OrangeAfroMan

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In non-shit gun news, I managed to find some good 95g rounds for my .243. I'm quite exited, sighted it in yesterday with the new rounds and will be out hunting deer in less than 24 hours :D

Venison is good eating. How are you planning on cooking it?

I want to do some steaks and make a fair bit of jerky. Not sure how I'm going to use all of it tbh :)

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Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan

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You call .380 shit, and then recommend .32 ACP?

Yes, statistically .32 ACP is one of the better performing handgun rounds and is almost completely devoid of recoil. Shot placement and quick, accurate follow up shots are much more important than caliber and .32 ACP makes both of those easy. .380 is snappy as fuck and has too much recoil in the guns that chamber it. 9mm and above generally come in larger guns with better recoil mitigation.

:psyblown:

So basically makarov has too much recoil for you to handle since it's 1.5 more powerful than .32ACP? Got it.
Better recoil mitigation? Better than blowback? Does 1911 come with ~balanced automatics~ or something?

My primary pistol is 10mm Auto. Larger calibers are not a problem in guns that are larger and properly designed for it. Glocks in particular have a very good design for recoil mitigation - even their subcompact models have some unique design aspects that make them comfortable to shoot 9mm or bigger in.

My point is, guns chambered in .380 are too small to be shot well, IMO. In a gun that small, you're better off with .32 ACP. If you want a stronger caliber, get a larger gun.
October 11 2013, 09:14:58 PM
AndersonW

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Originally Posted by dpidcoe

idk. I just remember that last time I looked surplus mosin ammo was getting expensive.

I just bought 440 rounds for like 130 $

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October 11 2013, 09:23:34 PM
smuggo

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Originally Posted by Sofia Roseburn

Was going to say, the .22LR restriction only applies to semi-automatic rifles in the UK. You could own a Mosin Nagant with no problems whatsoever for example, although I think something like a Garand would be illegal.

Be a patriot, buy an SMLE and a tin hat. You're not going to be able to get yourself a pistol IIRC.

I'm plenty aware of that. I want a SMLE and maybe, when I can afford one a De Lisle.

In the mean time. What can I own that is fun?

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