AFG its more comfortable imo, plus you can play out all your chris costa fantasy
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AFG its more comfortable imo, plus you can play out all your chris costa fantasy
Woo my tax stamp for my suppressor finally came in! Best present ever. And it only took 6 months...
Hope i can find subsonic 9mm during this panic buy
Even though the tacticool way to hold it looks, well, tacticool... Its actually comfortable! Plus you hold your upper body mostly in the same position while you sweep a room or advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarabando
Have you ever shot a subcompact Glock? The recoil is practically nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccpl_fisherI don't normally disagree with you Keorythe, but I prefer big, heavy weapons because the lightweight models can kick the shit out of you during an extended range stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeorytheYes because "lightweight" is for girly men and only studs carry compact Markovs which weigh more than a full sized .45ACP Glock 21. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoR
Yea I did it one handed... With not that bad of results at 7yds
Loaded PM is 760g. AlsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Cue1*Glock 26 weighs 560g, PM weighs 730g, both unloaded. Comparing loaded will depend on what you chamber the Glock in. the Glock 36, which is the .45ACP subcompact Glock, is 765g loaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoR
EDIT: Oh and links for that:
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/rus...-pm-pmm-e.html
http://us.glock.com/products/sector/personal-defense
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Originally Posted by Keorythe
So basically you hit the wall? 5 meters is really nice. I would consider knife throwing at that distance rather than using a pistol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Takon Orlani
The vast majority of defensive firearm usage happens at 7 yards, give or take.
Not to mention he just got the gun. Give him time to get some trigger time in.
Well it's just that americunts laugh at russian normatives of 25m for Makarov.
"lol markov is an excuse of a pistol round so weak it can't hit anything past 5 meters lololol"
Measure any room in your house or office, exclude the hallway.
Most of those rooms are under 21ft (7 yards).
That being said, I do practice at 15yds and 25 yds. So far at 25 yards I consider "success" as hitting the paper plate sized target more than half the time.
Yeah but schools tend to be bigger :razor:
but compared to other modern alternatives the markarov is not a better choice, still a choice but not better
Makarov/P230 are the most compact and reliable pistols available. 9mm PM is only effective against unarmored targets but then most body armor protects from 9mm para and 45 acp anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarabando
What do you actually use that for, out of curiosity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Takon Orlani
(And I'm a Pro-2nd Amendment Guy, so No Hurfablurf Required, just curious as to actual real world use for such fancy add-on heavy low-calibur rapid-fire weapons. I'm more a Classic Revolver and Rifle man myself).
Shooting varmint.
Most people use them for home defense though I'm not a fan(I'd rather a shotgun). Some people use them for varmint but his doesn't look like it's built for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlistairWhat do you actually use that for, out of curiosity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Takon Orlani
(And I'm a Pro-2nd Amendment Guy, so No Hurfablurf Required, just curious as to actual real world use for such fancy add-on heavy low-calibur rapid-fire weapons. I'm more a Classic Revolver and Rifle man myself).
Bullshit. One 9x18mm slug(just the damned projectile!) Is 6g. 6x8=48 48+730=778g and that's not including the shell casing or powder.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoR
the thing from the buzz buzz
Home defense, recreation and eventually hunting.
It's a great hobby, I need to find a place for winter shooting that allows me to bring my own targets like the gong and dueling tree's.
The .22 is largely recreational and by far my most used.
Who gives a shit though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cue1*Most people use them for home defense though I'm not a fan(I'd rather a shotgun). Some people use them for varmint but his doesn't look like it's built for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlistairWhat do you actually use that for, out of curiosity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Takon Orlani
(And I'm a Pro-2nd Amendment Guy, so No Hurfablurf Required, just curious as to actual real world use for such fancy add-on heavy low-calibur rapid-fire weapons. I'm more a Classic Revolver and Rifle man myself).
Bullshit. One 9x18mm slug(just the damned projectile!) Is 6g. 6x8=48 48+730=778g and that's not including the shell casing or powder.Quote:
Originally Posted by RazoR
the thing from the buzz buzz
Maybe its because i used to carry a 4.2kg G3 around but i honestly dont see the big deal about if your carry gun is 0.5 or 1.5kg..
Makes no difference in terms of encumberance, and as far as shooting goes, i have always prefered heavier stuff regardless of caliber, not just due to controlability etc but also due to the beefier feel of a heavier gun.
It matters because we hate Razor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tordin Varglund
I use 20 gauge shotgun for varmint/squirrels, and .30-30 or mauser 8mm for deer.
I already said that weight doesn't matter as long as it's under 1kg but PM has a very smooth profile and is smaller than compact glocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by spasmIt matters because we hate Razor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tordin Varglund
Keorythe brought up the ~PM is too heavy~.