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Not quite as loud I would hope. Never used a suppressor so v0vQuote:
Originally Posted by Tellenta
It's loud with a suppressor.Quote:
Originally Posted by VarcausIt's really really loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaperNope, I assume it still does what a gun is supposed to do thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Larkonis TrasslerEver fired a gun in doors with no hearing protection?Quote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaper
Depends, suppressor and silencer are not the same thing. Wear ear plugs or tinnitus (JUST LIKE MEEEEeeee!!!11!) is in your future basically. Though my tinnitus isn't from lack of care with personal weapons, nor the use of suppressors, mine come from being in the army and making lots of loud noises in Afghanistan and Iraq, though I suspect me being in the turret of the HMMWV all day every day and the wind due to that has more to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by VarcausNot quite as loud I would hope. Never used a suppressor so v0vQuote:
Originally Posted by TellentaIt's loud with a suppressor.Quote:
Originally Posted by VarcausIt's really really loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaperNope, I assume it still does what a gun is supposed to do thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Larkonis TrasslerEver fired a gun in doors with no hearing protection?Quote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaper
how loud a suppressor is is pretty much depended on the caliber and environment. Decibel wise a suppressed gun is still pretty high up, but since its a very short duration noise, it doesn't seem as loud. A suppressed .22 can be pretty quiet, almost as quiet as the action (around 115 decibels). My 9mm supressor is rated at 128 decibels. In a gun range environment, it sounds absolutely silent, but mainly because there are guns going off all around you. I was shooting it at a friend's property with no earplugs and with no other background noise, and the core sound was alot like the movies ("pteww"), but just loud enough cause mild ringing in the ears after a mag. unsuppressed is a whole different story ofc. after shooting my suppressed 9, i switch to my kahr 9mm and shot it, only to painfully realize that i forgot to put in my left earplug. felt like someone drove an icepick down my ear. and this was outdoors; i really dont want to image what it would've felt like indoors.
for reference:
http://i.imgur.com/AtVPVRs.png
as you can see from the video, unsuppressed, you are well into the range of permanent hearing loss even for short duration noises. Suppressed, it's just past the threshold of pain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=donjZzUat60
never realised 12bores were that loud :O
yea, im pretty sure that's the level for a full power load; i've had birdshot go off near me when i had no earplugs and it wasn't nearly as painful as the aforementioned 9mm shot.
Ive been practicing more with my toy revolver, ive gotte p. fucking fast if i may say so myself.
Me IRL:
http://onebit.us/x/i/x5ipTOwoaG.jpg
Why are you about 2 inches tall? Look at that wood grain.
Maybe it's from a giant tree.
it's a cartoon depiction frug, you can tell because of the lighting. as such it isn't necessarily realistic.
Imposter??? WwuuutttQuote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaper>Dirty JerseyQuote:
Originally Posted by AndersonWEh maybe this isnt the place and time. We cant even own suppressors in the Dirty Jersey... i mean I can live without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaper
Sent from Anderwin the Peoples Champ..
Now I know why I've always hated you, imposter.
Sent from Anderwin the Peoples Champ..
That's dependent upon what ammo you use actually. If you go back and read my post about sound, I point out a lot of detailed stuff about how the sound of a gun works. A suppressor suppresses the sound of the powder explosion, but doesn't do anything to the sound of the sound barrier breaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Appleby
Hollywood suppressors are based off of the old water suppressor designs. They used a fitted and enclosed baffle system with water filling the entire fitting, and a rubber seal where the bullet would exit. Those suppressors would indeed suppress a gun to below 70dB, making them very very quiet. The problem of course, is that those suppressors are good for maybe 30 rounds maximum before you need to refill the water and replace the rubber seal. The water has to be under pressure, so you can't just do that at home either.
Newer suppressors are based on a dry baffle system, and are much much louder. They are also unsealed, so they have what's called FRP or first round pop. Your first round fired will be much louder, since you've got oxygen in the suppressor so the expansion of gasses occurs quicker, due to having oxygen to continue the reaction. FRP is usually 140dB, and followup shots are 130dB. You can quiet them even farther by putting water into these suppressors. It's not as good as the old water designs, but it will drop them more toward 100dB. Unfortunately, that's really only good for 10 or so rounds, and it's really just a range thing, not really something you can do in a real application.
You live your life, I'll live mine. If you don't like guns, stay out of the gun thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaper
There's a video out there of a cop pulling an uzi with a suppressor on it from some gangster's waistband.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpidcoe
Suppressors aren't practical for anything except military use, but they're still cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
I wonder what New Jersey was named after >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersonWImposter??? WwuuutttQuote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaper>Dirty JerseyQuote:
Originally Posted by AndersonWEh maybe this isnt the place and time. We cant even own suppressors in the Dirty Jersey... i mean I can live without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by XenosisReaper
Sent from Anderwin the Peoples Champ..
Now I know why I've always hated you, imposter.
Sent from Anderwin the Peoples Champ..
I was going to link a youtube of a silenced nagant revolver but then i found this gem:Quote:
Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wly-qrRL6os&feature=fvwp
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You have issues with my size, not that I'm faster than light?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frug
link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cue1*There's a video out there of a cop pulling an uzi with a suppressor on it from some gangster's waistband.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpidcoe
(and not that one with the police demonstrating how much can be hidden inside a baggy gangster outfit)
Can't seem to find it. One of my instructors showed it to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpidcoelink?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cue1*There's a video out there of a cop pulling an uzi with a suppressor on it from some gangster's waistband.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpidcoe
(and not that one with the police demonstrating how much can be hidden inside a baggy gangster outfit)
Long barreled rifles and shotguns without compensators are actually pretty mild because almost all the sound goes downrange
Might not have been the same, but i saw a episode of Cops where they found a uzi or similar in some 15 years old kids pants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cue1*Can't seem to find it. One of my instructors showed it to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpidcoelink?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cue1*There's a video out there of a cop pulling an uzi with a suppressor on it from some gangster's waistband.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpidcoe
(and not that one with the police demonstrating how much can be hidden inside a baggy gangster outfit)
They didnt see it until they patted him down IIRC.
Wet suppressors don't fill the entire suppressor with water. They use a small quantity of water (or other high specific heat of evaporation liquid) to absorb thermal energy from the expanding gasses, cooling them and lowering the pressure. Filling the entire baffle space with water would simply result in blowing your suppressor apart when you pull the trigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cue1*That's dependent upon what ammo you use actually. If you go back and read my post about sound, I point out a lot of detailed stuff about how the sound of a gun works. A suppressor suppresses the sound of the powder explosion, but doesn't do anything to the sound of the sound barrier breaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Appleby
Hollywood suppressors are based off of the old water suppressor designs. They used a fitted and enclosed baffle system with water filling the entire fitting, and a rubber seal where the bullet would exit. Those suppressors would indeed suppress a gun to below 70dB, making them very very quiet. The problem of course, is that those suppressors are good for maybe 30 rounds maximum before you need to refill the water and replace the rubber seal. The water has to be under pressure, so you can't just do that at home either.
Dry baffle silencer noise reduction levels vary quite widely based on the design and overall volume. You can't make sweeping generalizations like you're doing without being horribly wrong at some point. The far more pertinent measure of a suppressor's effectiveness is the ratio between the powder charge and the total volume of the suppressor. Assuming reasonably good baffle/wipe design the major factor in determining noise reduction is the enclosed volume of the expansion chamber.Quote:
Newer suppressors are based on a dry baffle system, and are much much louder. They are also unsealed, so they have what's called FRP or first round pop. Your first round fired will be much louder, since you've got oxygen in the suppressor so the expansion of gasses occurs quicker, due to having oxygen to continue the reaction. FRP is usually 140dB, and followup shots are 130dB. You can quiet them even farther by putting water into these suppressors. It's not as good as the old water designs, but it will drop them more toward 100dB. Unfortunately, that's really only good for 10 or so rounds, and it's really just a range thing, not really something you can do in a real application.
They're practical for being a good neighbor if you actually need a varmint gun. Similarly for reducing range noise in general.Quote:
Suppressors aren't practical for anything except military use, but they're still cool.
-O
Also, it's possible to get (or custom load) ammo to be subsonic, which eliminates the "crack" of the bullet. Drastically reduces effective range, of course, but that's not always the important consideration.
It's obviously a cartoon and not realistic. I assumed you were kidding about being faster than light.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusYou have issues with my size, not that I'm faster than light?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frug
What concerns me is your tiny, tiny height. Do they even make guns for two inch tall cowboys?