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StevieTopSiders
September 2 2013, 08:39:29 PM
BL. can get roughly 100 people in any TZ with a posted op. Big CTA's could get 200.

SOLAR can get around 200 people on Big CTA's, and can regularly do fleets of 100 (even when alarm-clocking).

TheHenni
September 2 2013, 08:43:34 PM
My guesstimate would have been 500~ between the two on a good day.

But judging by the Fountain conflict etc. how many will they need?

StevieTopSiders
September 2 2013, 08:48:00 PM
My guesstimate would have been 500~ between the two on a good day.

But judging by the Fountain conflict etc. how many will they need?

NC./Nulli/N3 can't get big numbers right now, though I think a few months ago they got like ~800 dudes in fleet for like a FINAL(TM) SOLAR PURGE or something.

Right now, though, no one wants to FC against Elo Knight, so no fights will happen, unless N3 brings like torp bombers or talwars for "good fights."

DevilDude
September 4 2013, 09:29:35 PM
from what I can tell, the CFC is taking Delve and period basis relatively uncontested (some locals might do shit, but that'll be like a house cat trying to fight of a leopard). It looks like only NC. has any stake in querious, the other N3 partners seem to be more concerned with their eastern holdings. As to DD -A- and stainwagon, it seems like they're taking over the old SOCO territories, combined I bet they could be a reasonable threat, maybe not to the CFC or N3 in a proper war of annihilation, but I think neither side wants the territory their in enough to spend the capital it takes for that kind of a fight.

My bet is we'll see PL, and company drop in on the south in 2-4 months and reap much chaos, and possibly cause yet another failcascade.

Floating Buttsman
September 10 2013, 05:12:02 AM
*snip*

ManuMilitari
September 11 2013, 05:06:57 PM
The Southeast literally looks like someone re-winded the Sov Map to last year - it is awfully Russian all of a sudden.

So is NCDot officially not defending Querious in any manner? With the Fountain campaign defeat it seems like the Anti-CFC coalition kind of fell by the wayside pretty fast. I had hoped that the CFC push into Querious would re-ignite the war and provide N3 a reason to fully commit to the fight. Seems like the fall of TEST has really taken the air out of any anti-CFC coalition as TEST was the basically a necessity for any war because of the numbers they had.

Funny how just a few months ago NC. was blasting CFC/Goons for not bringing out caps until N3 had to redeploy East over SovDrop but now it looks like NC. is refusing to fight for Querious because of the potential cap blob that is CFC/BL./Solar. How the tables turn..

Oli Robbo
September 12 2013, 11:39:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dY8VStROWkA

so it looks like black legion and Solar are officially buddying up to make a play for Querios, wonder if they have any plans to link up with DD and -A- and stainwagon, who seem to be retaking their old space for the 4th(?) time.

That looked like a really bad version of dad's army btw. Also PB is completely uncontested, not even the locals want it (LAWN only have small undefended poses on the r64's there).

QuackBot
September 13 2013, 01:00:12 AM
So after some shenanigans with the Orca getting trapped in Catch, we found a wormhole over to NPC delve. After jumping in, I saw an Enyo camping a small bubble on a gate, and figured I'd load up a frigate killer of some kind and go brawl him down. As I was moving to grab my new Jaguar for the job, seems the Enyo got popped. I come back to see a Flycatcher and a Pilgrim cloak up on the gate, upon further investigation I discover they're Goons. After jumping, on the other side of the gate are two more goons in system, neither are visible, but there's a Cynabal on scan, so I figure that's one of them.

I rouse Sasha and Rialean, and we all pop into Tier3s with plans for some kills. Sasha is in a Naga, I'm in a Talos, and Rialean is in an Oracle. This puts Sasha in the position of bait, since he's got the best tank. He warps in, boats over to the gate, and the Flycatcher decloaks. Followed shortly by a Falcon, and the Pilgrim I saw. We spring our trap, warping to the gate at 20 and begin our DPSing. Tier3s do an amazing job of pumping the DPS. Falcon is called primary first, he drops pretty quickly. Next up is the Pilgrim, who got alpha'd quickly into armor when Rialean first misfired once on him before properly switching to the Falcon. He boosted his shields back, so he was apparently ASB fit. We worked him down through only one more boost, and he dropped out quickly as well. The Flycatcher never dropped a bubble sadly, but we dropped him all the same. All the pods got out, but Sasha did enjoy the fact he survived in armor.

BR: http://www.applied-agoraphobia.com/killboard/index.php/kill_related/730/

:Tabletz:
Got my back.

Bam Stroker
September 18 2013, 12:52:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dY8VStROWkA

so it looks like black legion and Solar are officially buddying up to make a play for Querios, wonder if they have any plans to link up with DD and -A- and stainwagon, who seem to be retaking their old space for the 4th(?) time.

So did anything ever come of this? Looking at the Verite map from the day (http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20130831.png) this video was posted and comparing it to today (http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20130917.png) I don't see any drastic changes, at least none involving Solar Legion.

Or am I just hopelessly ignorant about politics in the southwest (very likely) and their influence is more reflected in changes to -A- and DD holdings rather than suddenly seeing SOLAR appear all over Querious?

LeoniaTavira
September 18 2013, 01:41:08 AM
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Querious#sov
The Verite map is interesting, because higher sov levels affect your blob on the map more than lower ones. Sov 5 completely overpowers sov 0.
Look at all the sov 0 on there though (the better part of 9 constellations). Most of that was held by NC. prior to the Solar Legion deployment.

Bam Stroker
September 18 2013, 02:27:50 AM
Ahh ok. The Dotlan page (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/SOLAR_FLEET) for Solar fleet shows a bunch of claimed systems, too. I didn't realise that strategic index had an influence on the Verite maps. TIL.

lovely
September 25 2013, 11:13:31 AM
the parts of the region bl/solar wanted are taken and split between solar and black legions renter alliance. n3 decided not to defend and instead deploy to immensea after everyone else of note had already deployed to curse. then they lost a titan.

Bocephus
April 5 2014, 03:31:33 AM
Fountain

Fountain side A:

-Fatal Ascension, the current majority holders of sov Fountain. Supposedly awarded Fountain for participation during the war. Based in 6VDT-H
-Li3 Federation, owners of a few constellations in Fountain. Based in O-PNSN.
-Executive Outcomes, residents of Cloud Ring, but are regularly present during timers in Fountain. Currently deployed but still shows up to timers.
-I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth, seem to tagalong with EXE to timer fights
-Goonswarm Federation, a few Goon corps rat in Fountain regularly roam and form for timers. Space Violence had recently deployed to YZ-LQL briefly. They have since undeployed back to Syndicate.

Fountain side B:

-Gang Bang Team, the current Bulgarian wing of NPC Fountain, based out of WY-9LL
-The Godfathers, close allies with U MAD with a large Serbian presence, also based in WY-9LL
-Sorry We're in Your Space Eh, mixed TZ and language (English, French, and Lithuanian) alliance based in Serpentis Prime
-The Suicide Kings, independent corporation but working closely with the rest of Fountain core. Mostly US TZ with a small EU TZ based in Serpentis Prime.

The Conflict:

While the CFC was out playing in the South, Fountain core began an initiative of taking every single valuable moon in the NPC constellation. This eventually expanded to neighboring constellations as well. Towards the tale end of the war down south, specifically during the hellcamp, Fountain core reinforced every CSAA in FA's cap building system and batphoned anybody and everybody to kill them. A few were destroyed and a babby Avatar and Wyvern were confirmed dead. Since then, Space Violence and EXE deployed to Fountain to help clean it up. After a two week campaign, they have since redeployed to Syndicate.



Delve

Delve side A:

-Get Off My Lawn, the current dwellers of the cursed region
-The Initiative, residents of Querious and are often present at timers assisting LAWN.
-WALLTREIPERS ALLIANCE, sidekicks of INIT, also living in Querious
-Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere, the CFC renter alliance has a small presence as well.

Delve side B:

-PASTA, formally the PIZZA renter alliance. Now contains former PIZZA/BL corporation Love Squad and co. They currently base out of PR-8CA in NPC Delve
-Jokers, small Russian corp based out of 0N-3RO in NPC Delve
-No Value, Russian alliance based FWST-8 in NPC Delve

The Conflict: coming soon

LeoniaTavira
April 5 2014, 05:01:58 AM
Space Violence, Executive Outcomes, and Li3 Federation are currently deployed to TXW-EI in Syndicate in an attempt to kill Ev0ke and take moons

Tetsuo
April 5 2014, 05:18:04 AM
Solid starting post

Le Hench
April 5 2014, 06:02:49 AM
It's impressive how li3 deployed and li3 ratting at home look so similar.

Bocephus
April 5 2014, 07:14:22 AM
Here are few BRs from my perspective over the past few days. A couple of vids to go with them as well. All in all, nothing too special.


U MAD/D4DDY Hawk fleet was out messing around around 6VDT and got cornered by a Stabber gang in the Unicorn pipe. A reinforcement fleet of mixed BCs was formed up on a titan to break them out. When the backup bridged in, the cruiser gang ran back to 6VDT and reshipped into mixed Talos and Nagas. Their fits were also mixed but they had about 15-20 more in fleet than our fleet. Our logi took a beating, with several Scimitars pulled out of structure, and a late broadcast cost a Talos his life. Besides that it was fairly one sided. FA re-formed with a vengeance and used their JB network to pin our fleet down in J-R. After some debate, the FC made the call to log off and go to bed (it was late in Bulgaria and Serbia).

zKB: https://zkillboard.com/related/30004608/201404022100/
BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4608&b=5918220&e=60&t=b


Later that night, just before downtime, an Li3 R64 (or so I was told) was coming out of RF in WY-. We had no real intention of fighting a formup at that TZ, but couldn't really help ourselves when we noticed how small the FA/Li3/EXE formup was going to be. U MAD/D4DDY started shooting the POS in kitchen sink ships as soon as it came out. My corp formed up a late US tz fleet of 4 Ishtars, 3 Scythes, and a single Sabre to assist them. We got word that they had jumped in carriers on the POS edge and didn't think much of it. When our scout reported FA and EXE carriers, my eyes lit up. We warped in on the cyno at range and made quick work of the small mixed attack BC fleet, though one did manage to burn to our sentries at 0 and tank for a while as they couldn't track him . After the support fleet was dead, U MAD/D4DDY came back on field and some dishonorable metagaming provided us with the POS password. Our single Sabre was ordered on grid and we started to bump the carriers out. Sadly, Ishtars and Scythes aren't very good at bumping and our communication with U MAD/D4DDY was less than stellar. So we decided to focus our efforts on a single Thanatos. During this time the rest jumped out as they got out of the bubble. The lone Thanatos had just made it back inside the POS shields as Li3 reset it in an attempt to starburst him, but he was nowhere near deep enough for that to work. Bumped out and locked out, D4DDY warped in a single Moros in to kill it quickly. After that, the POS was killed uneventfully.

EVEkill: http://tsk.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=22759849
BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4623&b=5920980&e=240&t=fre
Video from Scythe perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8G5z86qdgU


Yesterday, a lot of boredom and drinking prompted us to poke at a POS that we had seen get quite a reaction, namely ~65 mixed CFC formed to save it the day before. An FA Harpy fleet harassed our Ishtars and we had to bail. We returned to finish the job in Talos uneventfully. This prompted FA to form their home def Abaddon fleet. We intended to fight on a different grid, but a bad warp put us on the gate they just came in from. So we decided to just go with faction antimatter and fly our Talos like Thrashers. The single FA Armageddon managed to completely neutralize our Scimitar's capacitor, netting them a single Talos before the Armageddon popped. After that, a combination of dishonor drones and lots of overheating allowed us to run through another three BS before they aligned out and MJD'd. Our Sabre pilot was on the fucking ball and managed to recognize this early and landed a bubble on them very quickly. We burned the 100km in and killed two BS as two more escaped.

zKB: https://zkillboard.com/related/30004617/201404040500/
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcC0zjmFDmI


Earlier today, a POS in Serpentis Prime was exiting RF. A mixed Fountain core Raven fleet formed up in WY-. Outnumbered 3:1, Fountain core was on the verge of standing down when a Rorqual cyno'd in at a perch. From what I was told the FC decided to suicide on the Rorqual. I was not there, so I don't know the specifics, but a short skirmish was had after the Rorqual died. The POS was saved, the Rorqual died, 15 Ravens and a single Scorpion gave their lives in the attempt. Fountain core narrowly edged out the ISK victory and the CFC managed to save the tower, so I guess both sides went home fairly happy.

zKB: https://zkillboard.com/related/30004623/201404042000/
BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4623&b=5920980&e=240&t=fre

QuackBot
April 5 2014, 09:00:14 AM
Solid starting post
Post in this thread.

Smarnca
April 5 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Solid starting post
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Postin

LordsServant
April 5 2014, 07:17:37 PM
Solid starting post
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Shitpoastin'

Orar Ironfist
April 5 2014, 07:45:36 PM
Solid starting post
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Quackers has declared a +1.

Bocephus
April 7 2014, 01:31:14 AM
Poor SV, before they welped in Syndicate yesterday, we made them drop their Napoc fleet on 9 Thrashers and a Crow.

They got batphoned to Fountain earlier that day by Li3 for a Vanadium moon timer. Fountain core blued balled because lolvanadium. Then they sent their cyno hictor around looking for something to justify their 75 man Napoc formup and we cornered him in Serpentis Prime. The poor nerd aggressed our Crow, didn't light his cyno til low armor, and then put his bubble up to ensure his death.

http://tsk.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=22798292

Later on we saw a rag-tag gatecamp and decided to bust it with Navy Augs. I volunteered to bait for the initial engagement, but the 34 AU warp was too long and I died as reps were cycling on me (grr end cycle armor reps). I frantically reshipped as we killed the Zealots and SFIs before both parties de-aggro'd on the gate and jumped to re-engage on the other side. Reinforcements, in the form of mixed Attack BCs, arrived from the station and were gunned down as they landed in their own hictor bubble in quick succession. We lost an Arazu to a late broadcast early on the second engagement and I made it back in a fresh Navy Aug just in time to whore on the Broadsword. They reinforced our POCO in retaliation and we re-RF'd the Vanadium in retaliation for that.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4622,4650,4651,4652,4649&b=5923020&e=106&t=r
EVE-Kill: http://tsk.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=22805194
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCeAH2Tgdes

edit: Apparently the POCO RF'd right as we started fighting as you can see in the video.

Bocephus
April 8 2014, 09:19:24 AM
FA formed up a small Megathron fleet to hit an -EH- staging tower in an Li3 system. This was their fleet comp. (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/testkb/systemscan/4181d2d72c62a04aaf657077dfb086f32f9e9d2f) We formed up Ishtars and were hoping to engage on the POS grid, but they scouted us and set up on the in gate. We burned off and dropped drones. They jumped into us without hesitation and we started to fight. The anchor burned us a bit out of range at first, but as we got in range we barely managed to break through their reps thanks to some well timed jams from a Griffin and Kitsune. After losing a few battleships and failing to break us, they deaggressed on the gate and jumped back out. We burned down an Oneiros off the gate. We burned in to jump into them, and they seemed willing to re-engage, but as we were about to jump in, they warped off and ran home. Tower saved at 51% shields.

zKB: https://zkillboard.com/related/30004617/201404080300/

Smarnca
April 8 2014, 11:16:44 AM
Do they have such low numbers because of TZ or are they generally that not interested in pvp?

Keckers
April 8 2014, 12:01:53 PM
They have such low numbers because they are literally worse than _a_ and as such don't attract anybody interested in pvp

Bocephus
April 8 2014, 07:38:45 PM
A lot of them seem to deploy with Space Violence, Freedom Squad, and/or European Goonion. At least that seemed to be their excuse last night. The running theory in Fountain core is they don't have much faith in their FCs right now.

And yeah, a lot of them are only interested in running anomalies and mining ice when there isn't a ~real war~ with a ~narrative~.

Securitas
April 8 2014, 10:45:14 PM
A lot of them seem to deploy with Space Violence, Freedom Squad, and/or European Goonion. At least that seemed to be their excuse last night. The running theory in Fountain core is they don't have much faith in their FCs right now.

And yeah, a lot of them are only interested in running anomalies and mining ice when there isn't a ~real war~ with a ~narrative~.
This is untrue. FA/Li3 were an almost unnoticeable presence when compared to the rest of the CFC on EG/Freedom's deployment to Curse.

Keckers
April 8 2014, 11:23:51 PM
FA/Li3 are pretty unnoticeable in general.

Jacabon Mere
April 9 2014, 02:08:17 AM
Is disband. Still based in delve?

Bocephus
April 9 2014, 10:02:26 AM
Is disband. Still based in delve?

Not sure.



Today a bunch of timers went uncontested by Li3, unless you count local smack as contesting. No sign of FA either. Had to resort to disgusting elite PVE maneuvers to relieve boredom.


http://i.imgur.com/AQaFFTC.png


Names of the innocent censored.

WTS Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer. (http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?16455-WTS-Cormack-s-Modified-Tracking-Computer&p=1061465)

Joshua Foiritain
April 9 2014, 11:15:30 AM
Nice.

lil zyphad
April 9 2014, 03:07:08 PM
Life in delusion land has been pretty sweet for the freedom fighting warriors of Pasta. Lawn won't fight us ever unless they are defending an asset with help from others but that's to be expected. Ive never seen people so afraid of talwars it's pretty neat. Jokers and No Value are pretty sweet allies. Bravest Russian warriors Ive ever seen.
On monday we tried defending a pos but our Russian friends decided to warp at 0 and brawl like men and took some substantial loses http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s...24&e=150&t=rue.

INIT are semi competent but hopefully we can make their life shitty as well as they came back from curse when we rf'ed one of their R64's last weekend and lawn couldn't be bothered to help defend it while they were deployed.

Also why haven't you joined anime masters yet??


http://i.imgur.com/CdSTNpX.jpg

meowtiger
April 9 2014, 03:11:03 PM
probably because (and i'm going out on a limb here) i don't want to be in corp with a girl who has more issues than a presidential campaign?

looks like a fun fight, keep the brs comin. try and fraps? it gets boring in jobland sometimes :(

lil zyphad
April 9 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Anime masters has a waifu for everyone maybe this is more to your liking


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KuSKvAXU4FU

Tetsuo
April 9 2014, 07:35:13 PM
Personally I couldn't be arsed to sit AFK cloaked all the time to fuck with shitbirds, but having said that the PASTA jihad against Delve is probably my favorite thing going in EVE right now.

Orar Ironfist
April 9 2014, 08:03:04 PM
Personally I couldn't be arsed to sit AFK cloaked all the time to fuck with shitbirds, but having said that the PASTA jihad against Delve is probably my favorite thing going in EVE right now.

Is it really that hard to cloak an alt and then not play eve?

meowtiger
April 9 2014, 08:48:24 PM
Anime masters has a waifu for everyone maybe this is more to your liking

why couldn't you just get your recruitment videos done by based tyrone like everyone else this is just weird

Keckers
April 9 2014, 10:26:52 PM
Those videos massively dropped the love I had building for PASTA.

I'm not sure even Aram is enough to balance it out.

Cue1*
April 9 2014, 10:34:55 PM
Personally I couldn't be arsed to sit AFK cloaked all the time to fuck with shitbirds, but having said that the PASTA jihad against Delve is probably my favorite thing going in EVE right now.

Is it really that hard to cloak an alt and then not play eve?

This is how I've done it TBH. Sit cloaked in a system long enough and people just forget that you're there. For me, I tend to do it on an alt then play EVE on the other screen.

lil zyphad
April 9 2014, 11:01:25 PM
Those videos massively dropped the love I had building for PASTA.

I'm not sure even Aram is enough to balance it out.

Anime Masters is a corp formed from /a/ I would expect nothing less from them.




This is how I've done it TBH. Sit cloaked in a system long enough and people just forget that you're there. For me, I tend to do it on an alt then play EVE on the other screen.

You mean you can have 2 accounts!?!?!

Bocephus
April 11 2014, 07:49:51 AM
Been quiet in Fountain. Got baited and blobbed today. Lost eyes on their fleet and jumped into them. Despite being severely outnumbered (38v11), we actually thought about fighting them until we noticed they had more ECM ships than we had DPS. Dscan. (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/testkb/systemscan/32c0464e457f16d759f8fd3bdc33e1cf24452fff) Falcon cloaked in that mess too. Ended up losing a Sleipnir on the gate crash and had to run off. You would have thought we lost several supers from the smug in local. :roll:

zKB: https://zkillboard.com/related/30004617/201404110300/

Bocephus
April 14 2014, 09:00:19 AM
Quiet weekend for the most part. Yesterday an R64 in WY- was taken by FA fairly uneventfully, blob too big, etc. Unable to get any decent timers over the past few days we went down to Delve to help out PASTA with an IHUB. Bombs kinda fagged up the whole event with bombs forcing parties to warp or bombing drones constantly. A few decent brawls were had between bomb cool downs. PASTA lost a handful of Ferox to a bombing run and we lost a few Scythes to bombs. Lost an Ishtar to a crash and a Scimitar on the evac. LAWN/FA/INIT did eventually kill the SBU and saved the system while Delve/Fountain core ran home with the ISK war, both sides can call that op success I suppose.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4741&b=5934420&e=120&t=ueb

Naoru
April 14 2014, 10:49:39 AM
Nice BRs man, keep them coming.

Bocephus
April 15 2014, 01:52:59 PM
Was out small ganging it up with a few Ishtars and got surprised by a 20 man roaming FA armor gang. We cross jumped and an Ishtar got tackled by a lone interceptor. We were able to kite out the tackle since most didn't have scrams, but eventually made the mistake of kiting too far and the cruisers were able to warp in and get land some harder tackle. Eventually lost an Ishtar and the Scimitar. Poor drone loadout choice got us killed there.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4636,4639&b=5935920&e=90&t=b

FA proceeded to camp all exits and probe down the remaining Ishtars, so we quickly formed up some Navy Augs to go bail them out. We really didn't expect FA to fight, so not much thought went into the comp choice, we just wanted to get out dudes out. Surprisingly enough, FA did decide to fight. We quickly put EC drones on the logi and burned through a pair of Deimos. I'm not sure if was the Deimoses being shitfit or if the jamming drones did their job, but after they cleared the drones, we couldn't break anything due to a severe lack of webs. We danced a Falcon on grid a few times but the FA inties were quick to force it off quickly and it's jams never bought us the time we needed to kill anything. Constant target switching and liberal amounts of overheating for about ten minutes netted us a Thorax kill. As with all extended engagements against the CFC, the calvary was on it's way. An early Brutix was the first one on field and we were able to burn through him right as local spiked with the rest of the reinforcements arriving. We deaggressed on gate and jumped out. As we warped off the Devoter managed to load and bubble one Navy Aug who gave his life to cover our asses as we ran to the nearest NPC station.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4636,4620&b=5936010&e=30&t=b

meowtiger
April 15 2014, 02:29:03 PM
As with all extended engagements against the CFC, the calvary was on it's way

still don't believe people think this style of gameplay is fun or enjoyable. "hey we're losing a fight pls bring 50 more dudes so we can win and then smug about it while camping them in station and depriving all of us of content"

Tetsuo
April 15 2014, 04:16:34 PM
As with all extended engagements against the CFC, the calvary was on it's way

still don't believe people think this style of gameplay is fun or enjoyable. "hey we're losing a fight pls bring 50 more dudes so we can win and then smug about it while camping them in station and depriving all of us of content"

Picture this;

You're in the CFC and hear there is a small Ishtar and Navy Aug gang fighting in friendly space.

You don't fight them because you're too busy enjoying all the other varied content that comes from being blue with every single pilot within 4 regions in any direction? Like, literally what else are they going to do?

meowtiger
April 15 2014, 04:26:37 PM
You're in the CFC and hear there is a small Ishtar and Navy Aug gang fighting in friendly space.

You don't fight them because you're too busy enjoying all the other varied content that comes from being blue with every single pilot within 4 regions in any direction? Like, literally what else are they going to do?

you're making a huge jump in logic here assuming they aren't busy jewing their weaselly goon hearts out and dock/safe up at the mention of hostiles within 20 jumps, then resume whatever thing they were doing after the fight is over/hostiles leave

it occurs to me that the majority of cfc residents don't actually want consistent, enjoyable, and challenging pvp content - they'd rather punctuate their eve gameplay (which is primarily spent making isk for no particular reason) with a once or twice a week appointment to squad up and smug at an enemy who won't engage into 3:1 odds with the option to escalate to 10:1. it's intensely frustrating trying to fight that - people who are comfortable with how mediocre they are and content with the status quo of winning fights by removing the possibility of losing or anyone involved enjoying a challenging, contested scrap

Cue1*
April 15 2014, 04:38:57 PM
You're in the CFC and hear there is a small Ishtar and Navy Aug gang fighting in friendly space.

You don't fight them because you're too busy enjoying all the other varied content that comes from being blue with every single pilot within 4 regions in any direction? Like, literally what else are they going to do?

you're making a huge jump in logic here assuming they aren't busy jewing their weaselly goon hearts out and dock/safe up at the mention of hostiles within 20 jumps, then resume whatever thing they were doing after the fight is over/hostiles leave

it occurs to me that the majority of cfc residents don't actually want consistent, enjoyable, and challenging pvp content - they'd rather punctuate their eve gameplay (which is primarily spent making isk for no particular reason) with a once or twice a week appointment to squad up and smug at an enemy who won't engage into 3:1 odds with the option to escalate to 10:1. it's intensely frustrating trying to fight that - people who are comfortable with how mediocre they are and content with the status quo of winning fights by removing the possibility of losing or anyone involved enjoying a challenging, contested scrap

Whining here isn't going to help that though. They enjoy it. I can't say why, because fuck knows why, but they enjoy it.

meowtiger
April 15 2014, 05:50:43 PM
Whining here isn't going to help that though. They enjoy it. I can't say why, because fuck knows why, but they enjoy it.

it won't change the situation in-game, but venting to other elitepvp nerds who empathize with my pain helps me cope. w+p is basically an eve pvp support group anyway

Keeves
April 15 2014, 07:59:04 PM
Whining here isn't going to help that though. They enjoy it. I can't say why, because fuck knows why, but they enjoy it.

it won't change the situation in-game, but venting to other elitepvp nerds who empathize with my pain helps me cope. w+p is basically an eve pvp support group anyway

sell accounts, uninstall, enjoy life. It's my 3 step program.

meowtiger
April 15 2014, 08:09:28 PM
sell accounts, uninstall, enjoy life. It's my 3 step program.

i enjoy life regardless. this whole "no strat ops" thing has given me a wonderful amount of leisure time to make isk, play TESO, go to concerts out of town... i'm going to karaoke this thursday for the first time in weeks!

it's a whooole neeeww wooooooorld

Orar Ironfist
April 15 2014, 08:11:52 PM
Whining here isn't going to help that though. They enjoy it. I can't say why, because fuck knows why, but they enjoy it.

it won't change the situation in-game, but venting to other elitepvp nerds who empathize with my pain helps me cope. w+p is basically an eve pvp support group anyway

sell accounts, uninstall, enjoy life. It's my 3 step program.

Everyone knows eve players are like heroine addicts when it comes to this game. It's a lot harder then that to quit.

skyride
April 16 2014, 04:49:14 PM
As with all extended engagements against the CFC, the calvary was on it's way

still don't believe people think this style of gameplay is fun or enjoyable. "hey we're losing a fight pls bring 50 more dudes so we can win and then smug about it while camping them in station and depriving all of us of content"

Except "camping" consists of gloating in local, about they won't undock, and then running away immediately upon them undocking anything that presents the possibility of an actual fight.

Bocephus
April 18 2014, 01:03:00 PM
U MAD just lost an Aeon in C-N. Not sure on the details on how it got tackled or what it was doing when it got tackled. Valiant attempts were made to save it but all way too unorganized to really matter. An organized attempt could have been the difference as the CFC response fleet was just as unorganized. I'll work on getting the details.

https://zkillboard.com/detail/38262352/

edit: Apparently he was incapping POS mods and warped to a safe before DT. After DT he logged in a Sabre was waiting for him at his login spot, but he's not sure how. CFC claims he wasn't in a safe but a moon. He'll petition it to try to get an answer, but is otherwise in good spirits, already shopping for a new one.

Smarnca
April 18 2014, 02:12:15 PM
I really wonder if all shit super pilots petition their losses...

Bocephus
April 18 2014, 02:25:14 PM
Yeah, probably.

The CFC version of events makes more sense tbh. Either way logging in post-DT was the biggest mistake regardless of where he logged off. Surely he knew he was being hunted since a dread was DD'd right before DT. He could have easily logged in jumped out before DT tonight with minimal risk. Mistakes were made for sure.

Joshua Foiritain
April 18 2014, 03:15:36 PM
I really wonder if all shit super pilots petition their losses...

Given how clueless the average GM is i imagine all super pilots petition their losses because its a 50/50 chance of getting it back regardless of how you lost it? free money.

Bocephus
April 20 2014, 06:16:17 AM
PASTA and the other Delve residents formed up Ravens and Ishtars respectively and did a pretty decent number on a LAWN+FA Megathron fleet.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4715&b=5942370&e=195&t=ue
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE2xRnKllgU

A few hours later a pair of R64s owned by FA and Li3 exited RF in NPC Fountain. After the first was saved they were once again dumpstered by NPC residents in Ravens across three systems as they retreated to the safety of a JB POS. The second R64 fell shortly after.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4621,4620,4636&b=5942700&e=179&t=raf

After a rousing alliance meeting (read: the most inane drivel you could imagine for 45 minutes) Li3 decided that they would defend a Vanadium moon (despite previous calls to not defend non-R64s while deployed). After several hours of pre-pinging they managed to get a massive 20 people in fleet, including 2 battleships and 4 logi. We felt like idiots for believing their pre-ping hype and killed the tower uncontested as they sat in another tower. Was it just that Li3 is awful and is losing their best US TZ corp to FCON? Line member burnout of not wanting to get dunked for a 3rd time in one day? Maybe just the holiday weekend? The world may never know.

Sorry for the basic reports, I wasn't around for the first two and the third was quite boring.

Bocephus
April 20 2014, 11:05:31 PM
Just had a shitshow of a fight over a POS. I'd write more but I'm about to have a fucking stroke from the frustration I experienced there. Here is the BR:

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4600&b=5944140&e=51&t=favb

edit: In other news FA just kicked a corp.

Bocephus
April 23 2014, 07:01:44 AM
So after catching on to FA's stront timing, the U MAD and DADDY tried to hit an R64 tower at a time that would result in a favorable timer for their prime time. Unfortunately for them, an FA stront alt logged and stronted it for US prime. So the small US contingent of Fountain core now had to figure out a way to kill an R64 in what FA considered it's best TZ. Plans were made with PASTA to bring bombers, followed by some FHC diplomacy to bring TISHU into the fold in their Proteus fleet. Time for formup came and we started to wonder if FA would even form. We discovered our intel on the timer was early by about 30 minutes, so we waited. Eventually FA mustered up 30 subcaps (https://adashboard.info/intel/dscan/view/RECYPtVK) from Delve and 6VDT-H. Some unfortunate disconnects resulted in scrambling for backup cynos, but all fleets bridged on the Megathrons at 0. FA immediately aligned to station and started burning off, warping out as they got out of bubbles. We turned our attention the carriers and nearly killed a Thanatos before he caught reps. We put all of our webs on to the farthest carrier from the shields, a Nidhoggur and started on him. At this point the FA caps decided to cut and run and went into the shields, sacrificing the Nid. We started bubble the POS, but a lack of T2 hictors resulted in the carriers jumping out. POS was killed without incident and FA logged off in station. All in all, we expected heavy resistance, but ended up blobbing the CFC (:psyblown:) and killing what we could as they ran. Shoutout and thanks to PASTA and TISHU & co for making the trek to help.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4621&b=5947380&e=60&t=ae

meowtiger
April 23 2014, 11:42:19 AM
sorry dude. gearing up for what looks like it's gonna be a really intense goodfite, and then your opponents completely drop the ball and barely form shit to fight you, i know that feel

on the other hand let me suggest for the future that you don't need t2 hictors, you can cover a large pos pretty well with two large t2 bubbles, and-or just rapecage the spot where the pos was, watchlist all those carriers, and leave a covert cyno logged off in the middle. punish the non goodfiters

Lex Arson
April 23 2014, 01:10:42 PM
boring video with some chill musak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeQQqW262CU

Bocephus
April 25 2014, 04:07:52 PM
Last night Li3's CEO Carneros posted ops for a series of all hands on dick ops. After hyping them for 24 hours Li3 got an astounding 22 in fleet, all in shield logi. They made their way to the first timer, a Caesium in 7BIX-A with EXE coming in Ishtars and FA coming in some kitchen sink cruisers. EXE and Li3 merged fleets and went to work on repping the POS. Fountain core bridged in between them and the FA fleet in G-UTHL and made pretty easy work out of the FA fleet, including relieving Wrathful Penguins of his second HG Snake clone of the day (PASTA got the first one in Delve earlier in the day). After that wrapped up Fountain core jumped in to 7BIX-A and warped in on the mixed FA/Li3 gang. As you can imagine, it's tough to break Ishtars when there are 25+ shield logi on field, so Fountain core began to chew through Scythes as fast as they could. Eventually, the EXE/Li3 fleet dove into the shields and that was that. Fountain core re-reinforced the POS and went home.

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4635,4631&b=5950020&e=90&t=uee

After that, the next timers were a pair of Li3 JB POS. Despite it taking Li3 over three hours to realize either were reinforced, they apparently warranted an emergency fleet from VFK. I believe the exact words were 'EMERGENCY SITUATION DEVELOPING.' When Fountain core caught wind of the Apoc > Mega Baltec fleet coming down, along with a massive capital fleet. It was pretty easy to just go into harassment mode. After about ten minutes of dictors spamming bubbles to break up the fleet, Fountain core managed to separate two Megathrons (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23133329) and kill them before fast tackle could land. After the towers were repped, the EXE fleet split off to get back in their Ishtars to go home. Fountain core was able to catch them off a gate and killed a couple of Ishtars and a Scimitar (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=23133827) as the rest cut and ran.

Shout out to the single Li3 carrier around to save their JB POS during an all hands on dick form up.

http://i.imgur.com/4OrB5ev.png

lil zyphad
April 25 2014, 04:37:17 PM
Thanks for the BR. Do FWEDDIT ever form for fountain timers? They do nothing from what I can tell in delve.

Bocephus
April 25 2014, 04:57:44 PM
Fweddit tends to go where Space Violence goes in my experience. They were here in Fountain when SV was at least, so I assume they are in Syndicate right now.

QuackBot
April 25 2014, 05:00:16 PM
Thanks for the BR. Do FWEDDIT ever form for fountain timers? They do nothing from what I can tell in delve.
What did i do?

lil zyphad
April 25 2014, 05:59:33 PM
Fweddit tends to go where Space Violence goes in my experience. They were here in Fountain when SV was at least, so I assume they are in Syndicate right now.
That makes sense I think I've seen them around the TXW area recently come to think of it.



What did i do?

Idno what did you do?

LeoniaTavira
April 25 2014, 11:45:28 PM
Fweddit has not been sighted in Syndicate for a couple of weeks, at least, not in TXW, FD-, or any numbers worth noting as 'hey there's a fweddit gang here'. Rumour has it they're possibly disbanding soon.

lil zyphad
April 29 2014, 03:12:08 PM
A Shoah in Delve:

6 million tengoos dead,
increasing the size of sister bliss's head
the bombers scrammed
the sac's fired hams
the war is lost
a holocaust

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4721,4718&b=5955768,5955765&e=74,75&t=uufe

Also a preview of local chat put together by space and an ebin video.

http://pastebin.com/zT8U7jQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LcJfIc-F_S4#t=0

sharptoast
April 30 2014, 09:49:28 AM
https://zkillboard.com/kill/38507595/


Im sorry but can somebody explain what the fuck that abomination is?

okla08
April 30 2014, 01:31:33 PM
Don't LowSechnaya Sholupen hang around with Fountain core as well? I mean I know they base out of Aridia but they shoot Goons, FA and LI3 a lot too.

Barbaro55a
April 30 2014, 01:55:16 PM
You don't like a dual prop cyno Logi with medium cap transfers?

In related news last night INIT + co defended an Ihub armour timer in EU prime, no fight to be had, just lots of warping around with a few bombers taking pot shots.

Technically Querious i guess.

QuackBot
April 30 2014, 05:00:13 PM
Last night Li3's CEO Carneros posted ops for a series of all hands on dick ops. After hyping them for 24 hours Li3 got an astounding 22 in fleet, all in shield logi. They made their way to the first timer, a Caesium in 7BIX-A with EXE coming in Ishtars and FA coming in some kitchen sink cruisers. EXE and Li3 merged fleets and went to work on repping the POS. Fountain core bridged in between them and the FA fleet in G-UTHL and made pretty easy work out of the FA fleet, including relieving Wrathful Penguins of his second HG Snake clone of the day (PASTA got the first one in Delve earlier in the day). After that wrapped up Fountain core jumped in to 7BIX-A and warped in on the mixed FA/Li3 gang. As you can imagine, it's tough to break Ishtars when there are 25+ shield logi on field, so Fountain core began to chew through Scythes as fast as they could. Eventually, the EXE/Li3 fleet dove into the shields and that was that. Fountain core re-reinforced the POS and went home.

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4635,4631&b=5950020&e=90&t=uee

After that, the next timers were a pair of Li3 JB POS. Despite it taking Li3 over three hours to realize either were reinforced, they apparently warranted an emergency fleet from VFK. I believe the exact words were 'EMERGENCY SITUATION DEVELOPING.' When Fountain core caught wind of the Apoc > Mega Baltec fleet coming down, along with a massive capital fleet. It was pretty easy to just go into harassment mode. After about ten minutes of dictors spamming bubbles to break up the fleet, Fountain core managed to separate two Megathrons (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23133329) and kill them before fast tackle could land. After the towers were repped, the EXE fleet split off to get back in their Ishtars to go home. Fountain core was able to catch them off a gate and killed a couple of Ishtars and a Scimitar (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=23133827) as the rest cut and ran.

Shout out to the single Li3 carrier around to save their JB POS during an all hands on dick form up.

http://i.imgur.com/4OrB5ev.png
This is the same, but tranquility lane (f3) has a fountain.

Keckers
April 30 2014, 05:24:16 PM
https://zkillboard.com/kill/38507595/


Im sorry but can somebody explain what the fuck that abomination is?

Nulli have a dual prop armour ishtar doctrine and that looks fairly similar to the doctrine's guardian fit, but with a cyno and gimped to hell.

PLs dual tank ishtar is far superior tbh

Bocephus
April 30 2014, 09:38:34 PM
Yeah, Fountain Core EU TZ lost some dreads yesterday because apparently they thought they are above things like scouting and intel. Hubris cost them a few dreads and some carriers. About as many that died did escaped when bubbles were bombed off though.

LoKiPP
May 1 2014, 06:48:43 AM
https://zkillboard.com/kill/38507595/


Im sorry but can somebody explain what the fuck that abomination is?

Heaven forbid anyone tries to innovate.

QuackBot
May 1 2014, 09:00:13 AM
Nulli have a dual prop armour ishtar doctrine and that looks fairly similar to the doctrine's guardian fit, but with a cyno and gimped to hell.

PLs dual tank ishtar is far superior tbh
That is one hell of an understatement.

Orar Ironfist
May 1 2014, 11:28:32 PM
Exactly Quackers.

vyshnegradsky
May 2 2014, 12:14:10 AM
So I logged on to hear there was a hotdrop fleet up. As soon as I land on the BLOPS we bridge through and straight ontop of an init fleet running an incursion. Unfortunatly we are terrible and only manage to point 4 of them.

http://pasta.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23242704

After bouncing safes they eventually trickle into their safe POS. As they are trapped inside we decide it would be hillarious to bubble them in and reinforce the POS, which we happily do. Being good hosts, Init provide us with plentiful entertainment, such as:

[21:06:33] Bland Inquisitor > this moon isnt even a profitable one
[21:06:45] Bland Inquisitor > sucks reffing a useless tower in bombers


Apparently the hardships of the halloween war meant the irony is lost on the average CFC member. Here's a nice picture for you all to enjoy.

http://i.imgur.com/Yi064uY.png

We leave soon after and init kill our bubble. But they are scared of being dropped again so after half an hour they safe log inside the POS one by one.

Cue1*
May 2 2014, 01:00:14 AM
edit - I don't know how to spoiler plz no mad

[spoiler.] and [/spoiler.] except without the dot.

vyshnegradsky
May 2 2014, 01:18:37 AM
edit - I don't know how to spoiler plz no mad

[spoiler.] and [/spoiler.] except without the dot.

Ok cheers

Barbaro55a
May 2 2014, 03:07:28 PM
Yeh, our evenings incursioning didn't go quite as planned.

Typical pve fits meant we lacked any form of tackle (other than webs).

wheniaminspace in his trusty crow was following us most of the way and snagged a Rokh on a gate, eventually we warped back to save her and ended up in an Assult site - wheniaminspace kept coming to say hi and would be webbed and warp out each time. Eventually we popped him somehow.

We finished the site after an embarrassingly long time and warped to a POS - only to find out it wasn't set for Alliance use. At this point we warped to another site and PASTA landed with us - 4-5 BS got tackled and the rest rolled over the gate to be met with a lot of angry rats.

Some uick D scanning led us to a POS we could hide inside so we huddled up, laughed at Bland and started talking about fits with more tackle for next time as the 1 gun was incapped and POS put into RF.

I was asked rather nicely if I could empty the stront bay and give out the password - but given I had only bought the Huginn an hour prior I wasn't in the mood to throw it away just yet.

Given the dude running the show lost his ship and we had Pasta widow sat cloaked of the pos we gave up for the night and i laoded up Shugun 2.

Bocephus
May 7 2014, 11:13:27 PM
Li3 to disband and merge with GENTs, live in Vale.

Do two wrongs make a right?

Op success.

Orar Ironfist
May 7 2014, 11:45:49 PM
Li3 to disband and merge with GENTs, live in Vale.

Do two wrongs make a right?

Op success.

I thought Gents was folding too?

vyshnegradsky
May 8 2014, 01:38:58 AM
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/The_Bastion new alliance?

Bocephus
May 14 2014, 04:22:15 PM
Yeah, that's the new alliance. Will live in Vale, in GENTS old systems. The Li3 CEO will lead it, but is basically being puppeteered by The Mittani and co.

Goons and co spent last week burning down all 'progress' made in Delve and Fountain.

My corp is basically over it, we got our pound of flesh from Li3 and are taking a planned break and then probably moving on from Fountain. I'm sure the CFC powers that be will spin that as they see fit though. :D

Joshua Foiritain
May 14 2014, 07:47:52 PM
So im confused; Li3 and Gents are merging into one alliance (because Li3 cant bear in fountain due to the npc locals and gents is folding? (according to evenews)). The goal of this alliance is to defend both Vale and Fountain. But aren't Vale and Fountain like 4-5 regions apart? Which would stretch them thinner then they are now and thus even less capable of defending stuff?

John Selth
May 14 2014, 08:38:19 PM
Wait so will FA be the only real CFC force in Fountain now? Or will they open up Li3 space for a possible renter expansion?

Bocephus
May 14 2014, 09:11:48 PM
Probably FA or Goons. I don't think they can rent it because Fountain core would tear apart those constellations (all three border Phoenix).

That being said, Skaven is worth like 40b by CFC renting costs, so they could just constantly recycle one monthers through there and still make decent ISK if they don't care about retaining.

vyshnegradsky
May 15 2014, 08:32:46 PM
Probably FA or Goons. I don't think they can rent it because Fountain core would tear apart those constellations (all three border Phoenix).

That being said, Skaven is worth like 40b by CFC renting costs, so they could just constantly recycle one monthers through there and still make decent ISK if they don't care about retaining.

I would of said move EXE back there, they used to hold northern fountain anyway. That way you'll also have some one who will fight fountain core. When I was in EXE we were constantly moving down to fountain to bail out Li3 and FA anyway. Then you can rent out Cloud Ring.

Aliventi
May 15 2014, 08:39:46 PM
Probably FA or Goons. I don't think they can rent it because Fountain core would tear apart those constellations (all three border Phoenix).

That being said, Skaven is worth like 40b by CFC renting costs, so they could just constantly recycle one monthers through there and still make decent ISK if they don't care about retaining.

I would of said move EXE back there, they used to hold northern fountain anyway. That way you'll also have some one who will fight fountain core. When I was in EXE we were constantly moving down to fountain to bail out Li3 and FA anyway. Then you can rent out Cloud Ring.
All of the syndicate alliances approve this plan. Renters would be better neighbors than EXE.

Hans Zwaardhandler
May 30 2014, 02:36:23 AM
On a completely different note, anyone know what's going on with SOLAR right now? They've dropped two sizable corps in the past few days on top of another two smaller ones, cutting about a quarter of their membership. Is there a shakeup going down, or just a difference in ideals?

bundus
May 30 2014, 02:46:56 AM
On a completely different note, anyone know what's going on with SOLAR right now? They've dropped two sizable corps in the past few days on top of another two smaller ones, cutting about a quarter of their membership. Is there a shakeup going down, or just a difference in ideals?

Solar power gets weaker in winter.

Keckers
May 30 2014, 08:00:31 AM
Last I heard they were grinding missions in stain, occasionally pulling a dozen in a fleet to reinforce happy cartel moons and then not alarm clocking the final timers

QuackBot
May 30 2014, 09:00:25 AM
Solar power gets weaker in winter.
Maybe that's how the guy in front gets in.

Jacabon Mere
May 30 2014, 02:04:53 PM
Well my digging unearthed this


One of SOLAR's main FCs, Lorianna Lee, had a disagreement with SOLAR leadership and pulled his corp out to form a new alliance. Two other corps had already left, and we just saw SOBR leave too, so this may be a pretty big split.

It's a bit weird that SOLAR survived losing all of their space with a completely straight member count and only fall apart once they enter ~peacetime~.

Hans Zwaardhandler
May 30 2014, 09:38:29 PM
Interesting to say the least. Was curious as Solar had been relatively stable in membership as far as I could tell, and then they just dropped six hundred members without any major news articles running on any sites or blogs.

Orar Ironfist
May 30 2014, 10:52:20 PM
Interesting to say the least. Was curious as Solar had been relatively stable in membership as far as I could tell, and then they just dropped six hundred members without any major news articles running on any sites or blogs.

The Russians in general are pretty secretive tbh

Kalaratiri
May 31 2014, 08:55:03 PM
:mittens.com: (http://themittani.com/news/solar-fleet-failcascading-or-something)

QuackBot
May 31 2014, 09:00:11 PM
Interesting to say the least. Was curious as Solar had been relatively stable in membership as far as I could tell, and then they just dropped six hundred members without any major news articles running on any sites or blogs.
And to the irc thread we go.

LeonM
June 1 2014, 05:58:51 AM
On a completely different note, anyone know what's going on with SOLAR right now? ?

According to the Russian forums, this is the chain of events:
1. Greg (FC for Red Alliance) and Loriana Lee (at the time the stand-in leader for SF and main FC while Mactep is AFK) announce the newly forged union between Solar and Red, with Red re-locating to SF turf in Querious with intentions of joining the operations had by SF and the remains of SW (http://webfile.ru/cd93aa1a6adca6189093c54d59ef5e46). (SOTA is in Russian, sorry for that but i can't be bothered to translate it)
2. The first joint fleet is assembled within the same (or the next) day with everybody rather content about the co-operation.
3. Mactep hears (or sees on the KB) that SF set RA blue and throws what was described (can't confirm nor deny) as a tantrum over it, resetting RA on the spot and most likely having an exchange of opinions with Loriana Lee, who has led the alliance for a while now, in his name.
4. Loriana leaves SF with his corporation, creating a new alliance called DreamFleet IIRC, with a couple more SF corps joining him, thus leaving SF without (again, hearsay) battle hardened FCs. There was some message out, allegedly by Mactep, but it wasn't authenticated and could as easily be a troll so i won't bother with it either.

Pretty much the story according to Rus media.

As for opinions, Mactep seem to have taken the wrong step here, with himself being offline he crippled an active FC/leader who bled his alliance for active pilots with the result remaining the same - RA flying in joint ops.
The unity and info-sec that became Solar Fleet's trademarks over the years (in addition to having basically a cult to Mactep) now show some visible dents.

Marlona Sky
June 2 2014, 08:20:38 PM
What is the standings relationship between CFC and Solar Fleet?

antoine
June 2 2014, 08:35:52 PM
You can check the always-handy https://standings.goonfleet.com/! Unless it's only open to friendlies? But I doubt it.

Marlona Sky
June 2 2014, 11:12:51 PM
You can check the always-handy https://standings.goonfleet.com/! Unless it's only open to friendlies? But I doubt it.

Well after today(?) all that will really remain of Stain Waggon will be that small Solar Fleet section of space. So I'm considering lumping them with the rest of the CFC on a coalition level. But if goons are the only ones they are blue with, it might be incorrect to do so.

LeonM
June 3 2014, 08:58:14 AM
Sorry, not sure i follow, lumping who with CFC?

Keckers
June 3 2014, 09:07:03 AM
Who decided to stick with mactep as solar fleet? Any important corps or did those all go off with that other guy who still logs in?

LeonM
June 3 2014, 09:23:21 AM
Yeah, sorry for not elaborating on the subject - The corps leaving are said to be of the core corps, corps that stuck with SF for quite a while. Except those Gerodian fellows who are sort of a joke to the Russian community and them being in SF in the first place is an unexplained mystery. Some said that Solar are done back then when they joined.
Didn't check it myself, i am sure that dotlan and solar killboard can rather precisely tell the story of how significant the said corporations were to the alliance. I am sure some people already have done that, if only for the sake of assessing their worth as immediate allies/foes as solar left SW to the best of my understanding.
I can just say that i flew quite a few of ops with Solar recently, and never seen (or heard of) any other FC but Lori.

Marlona Sky
June 3 2014, 09:19:59 PM
LeonM - do you have access to Solars standings? I was wondering how they are towards the rest of CFC. You can mail me if you don't want to publicly share.

LeonM
June 3 2014, 09:56:54 PM
No, I don't have access to that, sorry. I don't think they're blue, but I don't really know.
I'll try to ask around, but i don't want to be too obvious =)
Don't tell me you don't have a bunch of informers in the CFC satellite alliances, i won't believe it.

Bocephus
June 6 2014, 03:23:51 AM
Hi, I get to post here again. I swear I'm like a battered wife with these two regions.

oooo and lowsec too, oh boy.

Northern Observer
June 13 2014, 09:45:03 PM
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=25449

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23967979

#rekt

vyshnegradsky
June 13 2014, 09:49:29 PM
Brings over 1000 people from the other side of the map to save a "valued ally."

Smugs about it.

Northern Observer
June 13 2014, 09:58:48 PM
Brings over 1000 people from the other side of the map to save a "valued ally."

Smugs about it.

1000 vs. 800 is about as close as you gonna get at the bloc level bro. besides, these guys are ~elite~ and each pilot is worth 2-3x a CFC pilot amirite?

nomadpls

vyshnegradsky
June 13 2014, 10:49:31 PM
no mad, I forgot to turn on jabber and only realised something happened at the end of the fight. Killing stragglers afterwards though is fun

Marlona Sky
June 13 2014, 10:54:11 PM
I see a good amount of Thanatos used. I'm assuming they were using fighters?

antoine
June 13 2014, 10:57:24 PM
safe to say it's just people who trained for thanatos for ratting and didn't crosstrain/have an archon because :goons:, still using sentries as normal.

LoKiPP
June 13 2014, 11:45:59 PM
these guys are ~elite~ and each pilot is worth 2-3x a CFC pilot amirite?

How does it feel to parrot everything mitten says, had any original thoughts lately?

Northern Observer
June 13 2014, 11:53:58 PM
these guys are ~elite~ and each pilot is worth 2-3x a CFC pilot amirite?

How does it feel to parrot everything mitten says, had any original thoughts lately?

Actually I was parroting PL guys, TRI guys, BL guys, NC guys and ofc LoRdSeRvAnT. I guess BL couldnt show up to their own timer without Elo, try not shitting on them EU FC's this time mmk?

LoKiPP
June 13 2014, 11:58:07 PM
these guys are ~elite~ and each pilot is worth 2-3x a CFC pilot amirite?

How does it feel to parrot everything mitten says, had any original thoughts lately?

Actually I was parroting PL guys, TRI guys, BL guys, NC guys and ofc LoRdSeRvAnT.

Mittens was the one who coined the term 'elite pvp' and CFC members ran away with it. You will not find a quote from any N3/PL leadership or FCs that have ever claimed elite pvp.

Go make shit up somewhere else.

DaDutchDude
June 14 2014, 12:41:12 AM
Kugu type troll posting account is trolling at far below kugu levels, at least some of the trolls there are funny. Inb4 lots of more contentless #rekt posts from him, with intermittent whines about how people are so mean against him and feable attempts to explain away any losses. It is kinda funny that the propaganda war is now also waged on FHC, albeit poorly, it's an interesting change ... when did FHC become relevant again for the posting wars (other then the NPC scrubs mud wrestling in the Syndicate thread of course ;))?

Orar Ironfist
June 14 2014, 12:58:45 AM
Syndicate thread best thread mate.

Lex Arson
June 14 2014, 01:20:02 AM
Kugu type troll posting account is trolling at far below kugu levels, at least some of the trolls there are funny. Inb4 lots of more contentless #rekt posts from him, with intermittent whines about how people are so mean against him and feable attempts to explain away any losses. It is kinda funny that the propaganda war is now also waged on FHC, albeit poorly, it's an interesting change ... when did FHC become relevant again for the posting wars (other then the NPC scrubs mud wrestling in the Syndicate thread of course ;))?

When has Failheap ever been about anything other than NPC scrubs mud wrestling and having pointless fights? It's not like any of these threads have that much life compared to syndi/lowsec threads

derpatalk

Cue1*
June 14 2014, 01:27:32 AM
Kugu type troll posting account is trolling at far below kugu levels, at least some of the trolls there are funny. Inb4 lots of more contentless #rekt posts from him, with intermittent whines about how people are so mean against him and feable attempts to explain away any losses. It is kinda funny that the propaganda war is now also waged on FHC, albeit poorly, it's an interesting change ... when did FHC become relevant again for the posting wars (other then the NPC scrubs mud wrestling in the Syndicate thread of course ;))?

When has Failheap ever been about anything other than NPC scrubs mud wrestling and having pointless fights? It's not like any of these threads have that much life compared to syndi/lowsec threads

derpatalk

To be fair, FHC has one of the more relevant wormhole space threads.

posted from my pants

DaDutchDude
June 14 2014, 01:48:44 AM
When has Failheap ever been about anything other than NPC scrubs mud wrestling and having pointless fights? It's not like any of these threads have that much life compared to syndi/lowsec threads

derpatalk
Well, not Failheap perhaps, but its predecessor SHC used to be more 'relevant'.

AFAIK, in the old days, posting wars were held on EVE-O in the much loathed part of the forum there meant for alliance politics (can't remember the name, I never bothered with EVE-O). To escape that, discussion migrated to SHC, but once it started to get a bit out of hand, moderaters came down hard and eLawyers started crying about freedom of speech. That lead to a rising population of EVE Uncensored on Kugu, specifically called that in response to the issues on SHC. Some time after that SHC died and FHC was of course created to fill a gap, and although it has a loyal following of posters, the political debate / posting wars have mostly raged on Kugu ever since.

Having people who are in the know like Grath start posting on FHC last year during the Halloween war (or perhaps before that) was a nice thing to see and with the appearence of a troll alt posting account like Northern Observer, perhaps the propaganda big wigs (or maybe their misguidede underlings ) have started considering FHC relevant enough again to try to shape opinion start flinging shit here too now, a development that should fill spectators of the human drama that is sov wars in EVE like me with joy and dread in about equal measures. I guess we'll really know this place is going to shit when mittens starts posting here (like he infrequently did on SHC), not because his posting is bad (it's usually a mix of drivel, propaganda and useful information, but with lots of long, fancy words and usually quite witty / funny) but because with him follow the posting army that is Goons and their misguided .... well, I'll keep it friendly and say allies.

Sorry for the off topic media analysis, carry on ...

Edit: One addition to above: I'm not trying to say that Goons are the only bad posters, they actually have a number of very good ones, but they often get drowned out by sheer numbers of 'true believers', none of which any other coalition of shit posters can manage to overcome.

Keeves
June 14 2014, 03:43:24 AM
AFAIK, in the old days, posting wars were held on EVE-O in the much loathed part of the forum there meant for alliance politics (can't remember the name, I never bothered with EVE-O).

CAOD.
Only good part of that was the early Titan thread, where people posted Titans and pilots as they popped up. I started watching it when the Titan count was under a dozen I believe and stopped when it started getting ridiculous.

Orar Ironfist
June 14 2014, 06:03:25 AM
AFAIK, in the old days, posting wars were held on EVE-O in the much loathed part of the forum there meant for alliance politics (can't remember the name, I never bothered with EVE-O).

CAOD.
Only good part of that was the early Titan thread, where people posted Titans and pilots as they popped up. I started watching it when the Titan count was under a dozen I believe and stopped when it started getting ridiculous.


Literally any thread started by Sir Molle was amazing. And the politics threads of 04 were ballin. Little shitpoasting and mostly gentlemanly discussions. By about 06 CAId turned into what people remember.


FHC has been good for any of te big stuff. Like B-R. And I doubt Mittens will ever poast here like he did on SHC/CAOD. That was way back when Mittens was still only considered the GIA head and Remedial was in charge.

LordsServant
June 14 2014, 06:41:10 AM
Actually I was parroting PL guys, TRI guys, BL guys, NC guys and ofc LoRdSeRvAnT.

TIL I am considered a separate force noteworthy enough to be mentioned in the same sentence alongside PL(and BL etc) by your average CFC grunt.

Elmnt80
June 14 2014, 08:52:12 AM
Shitposting force maybe.

QuackBot
June 14 2014, 09:00:19 AM
no mad, I forgot to turn on jabber and only realised something happened at the end of the fight. Killing stragglers afterwards though is fun
As i was expecting, still fun though.

Keckers
June 14 2014, 09:23:28 AM
Well anything is preferable to listening to them throwing their toys out of the pram about slowcats for 3 months straight.

Securitas
June 14 2014, 10:51:34 AM
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=25449

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23967979

#rekt
61.93% Efficiency (ISK)

That's pretty terrible considering you had nearly 100 carriers on field and outnumbered your opponent on top of that anyway.

#rekt is what LAWN is getting by PASTA, though

morpheps
June 14 2014, 12:51:15 PM
AFAIK, in the old days, posting wars were held on EVE-O in the much loathed part of the forum there meant for alliance politics (can't remember the name, I never bothered with EVE-O).

CAOD.
Only good part of that was the early Titan thread, where people posted Titans and pilots as they popped up. I started watching it when the Titan count was under a dozen I believe and stopped when it started getting ridiculous.

CAOD was pretty bad. Back when the T20 incident went public, I used to moderate that forum (and continued all the way up until they stopped using volunteers as mods). Compared to the levels of shitposting CAOD had, FHC is highly relevant and informative.

Northern Observer
June 14 2014, 04:24:34 PM
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=25449

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23967979

#rekt
61.93% Efficiency (ISK)

That's pretty terrible considering you had nearly 100 carriers on field and outnumbered your opponent on top of that anyway.

#rekt is what LAWN is getting by PASTA, though

How about 87% efficiency? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23979853

Bocephus
June 14 2014, 04:36:10 PM
I too smug post about 9:1 gang rapes.

https://adashboard.info/intel/local/view/dXxbyZur

Northern Observer
June 14 2014, 04:45:42 PM
I too smug post about 9:1 gang rapes.

https://adashboard.info/intel/local/view/dXxbyZur

You mess with the bull you get the horns. You knew going to Delve and shooting towers would make the CFC follow you, its the circle of life. Maybe stick to camping gates in Fountain and hotdropping ratters?

Armyofme
June 14 2014, 05:17:33 PM
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=25449

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23967979

#rekt
61.93% Efficiency (ISK)

That's pretty terrible considering you had nearly 100 carriers on field and outnumbered your opponent on top of that anyway.

#rekt is what LAWN is getting by PASTA, though

How about 87% efficiency? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23979853

400 vs 100 and you manage to be smug about it.
Why the fuck dont the mods just ban you right away before you shit up more threads

And lets be fair, CFC (Mittens) must have a real love for BL cause whenever we move somewhere, you follow us around like a dog trying to sniff our ass.

Looks like BL is controlling cfc's game and not the other way around ;)

Orar Ironfist
June 14 2014, 05:20:00 PM
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=25449

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23967979

#rekt
61.93% Efficiency (ISK)

That's pretty terrible considering you had nearly 100 carriers on field and outnumbered your opponent on top of that anyway.

#rekt is what LAWN is getting by PASTA, though

How about 87% efficiency? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23979853

400 vs 100 and you manage to be smug about it.
Why the fuck dont the mods just ban you right away before you shit up more threads

Mate they still haven't legitimately banned Lords. Nor did they ban W0lf.

Cue1*
June 14 2014, 07:16:49 PM
I agree that Northern Observer is a retard, but I can't ban him for spewing his political side, else I'd have ban anyone who spouts their side's politics.

However, the whole, post a link without anything else will stop, or I will infract liberally. If you can't write a paragraph or two about what happened, then don't bother at all.

posted from my pants

Armyofme
June 14 2014, 07:59:19 PM
However, the whole, post a link without anything else will stop, or I will infract liberally. If you can't write a paragraph or two about what happened, then don't bother at all.

posted from my pantsSee, that is all it takes to make me insanly happy =)
If ppl post a kb link then they really should have the brains to put some sort of effort into writing a br as well.

Orar Ironfist
June 14 2014, 08:55:46 PM
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39516249/

Top lel. Letting russians gank your Rorq is good times.

Bocephus
June 14 2014, 10:40:47 PM
I don't want to talk about it. :cut:


lol, but really. I gave tower duties to a rookie tower person and he forgot about the online timer. He took his ozone out on accident to fit the fuel and exploded as our cyno landed on grid. Mistakes made, he learned his lesson (hopefully), and he upgraded his ride (http://i.imgur.com/j9KCtcT.jpg).

gg

Brullig
June 18 2014, 02:04:25 PM
We (BLAST) took a Talwar roaming gang (8-10 Talwar, + a few Crows and a Sabre) out last night to poke at NPC Delve to see if anyone was around. No drops, no bridging shenanigans, just good old fashioned travel-by-gate. Reports of several small gangs in the area were being passed around intel. We picked off a few assorted solo players as we were moving through gates along the route (Taranis, Sabre). After a bit of posturing around the PR- station, we ended up going after some PASTA interceptors. They took a fight on the gate with us, and it was time to LML brawl! wheniaminspace's multiboxed Purifier fleet came in through gate and all got smashed, but then the PASTA crows slowly started picking off our Talwars due to their superior maneuverability. The call was made to deaggress and bug out. A few of us got caught on the other side of the gate by an inconvenient dictor bubble. Looking forward to more fun in the area!

Bocephus
June 22 2014, 01:48:58 AM
Just had a great set of brawls in Delve. Will post a BR after I get some food.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4722,4750&b=6033480&e=120&t=rvqb

QuackBot
June 22 2014, 05:00:13 AM
I agree that Northern Observer is a retard, but I can't ban him for spewing his political side, else I'd have ban anyone who spouts their side's politics.

However, the whole, post a link without anything else will stop, or I will infract liberally. If you can't write a paragraph or two about what happened, then don't bother at all.

posted from my pants
What a retard.

Elmnt80
June 22 2014, 11:55:08 AM
I agree that Northern Observer is a retard, but I can't ban him for spewing his political side, else I'd have ban anyone who spouts their side's politics.

However, the whole, post a link without anything else will stop, or I will infract liberally. If you can't write a paragraph or two about what happened, then don't bother at all.

posted from my pants
What a retard.
Oh snap son. Quackbot just called you the fuck out cue, what you gonna do about it?

Armyofme
June 22 2014, 01:32:57 PM
Just had a great set of brawls in Delve. Will post a BR after I get some food.

BRcat: http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4722,4750&b=6033480&e=120&t=rvqb
Cant belive i logged on just as this fight ended :(
Missed out on the entire bloody thing.

Bocephus
June 27 2014, 10:00:28 AM
We took a rare EU TZ fleet to the LAWN and Co2 staging system to look for a fight. After sitting on the undock for about 20 minutes, we got wind of an INIT Tengu fleet forming. CO2 formed long range AHACs while LAWN formed up inties in support. The first engagement was on the sun, our Muninns vs the LR AHACs, with some Muninns traded for some Muninns. After bouncing around system for a while, we managed to get a few more warpins on them and killed one or two at a time, before the Tengu fleet landed on grid. Eventually, we made a run for home, only to be cut off by all three hostile fleets. After hazing the inty fleet on a gate, we were forced to fight the Tengus due to aggro and bubbles. We powered through the logi and started on Tengus, but had to disengage after losing most of our logi and the better majority of our fleet. Luckily, the Co2 fleet was reshipping into a different comp during this, or it would have been a complete welp, with way less kills. GFs were exchanged and we ran home. I'll revise/proofread this with better info and grammar in the morning.

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4751,4750&b=6040620&e=90&t=rbv

lil zyphad
June 30 2014, 09:41:34 PM
Here's a soundcloud of a LAWN alliance meeting.

https://soundcloud.com/luciadenniard/audiolawn-pasta-problems-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-live-with-the-spaghetti

Pretty boring here are the main points:

- BL getting blueballed/destroyed

-BL flys crow fleets LOL what tools

-LAWN has no pasta spies

TLDR:
http://f1.thejournal.ie/media/2014/05/lasagne-everywhere.jpg

meowtiger
June 30 2014, 09:43:10 PM
TLDR:
http://f1.thejournal.ie/media/2014/05/lasagne-everywhere.jpg

omfg.

Keckers
June 30 2014, 10:09:58 PM
Lawn are actually a really good example of everything wrong with eve at the moment.

Azock
June 30 2014, 10:20:56 PM
Here's a soundcloud of a LAWN alliance meeting.

https://soundcloud.com/luciadenniard/audiolawn-pasta-problems-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-live-with-the-spaghetti

Pretty boring here are the main points:

- BL getting blueballed/destroyed

-BL flys crow fleets LOL what tools

-LAWN has no pasta spies

TLDR:
http://f1.thejournal.ie/media/2014/05/lasagne-everywhere.jpg

Not gonna lie, I enjoy the crows. Crow doctrine can be a fun as hell fleet to be in, definitely if you have a FC who is on the ball with fleet warps like Elo.

lil zyphad
June 30 2014, 11:03:20 PM
Not gonna lie, I enjoy the crows. Crow doctrine can be a fun as hell fleet to be in, definitely if you have a FC who is on the ball with fleet warps like Elo.

Crow fleets are the best. You can take them anywhere and engage anything and always get away.

Orar Ironfist
July 1 2014, 09:30:19 PM
Is it just me or does that link no longer work?

BadassMcKill
July 2 2014, 01:39:18 AM
Yea it got changed for whatever reason

Here's the new one https://soundcloud.com/luciadenniard/pasta-problems

ron mexxico
July 7 2014, 01:39:36 AM
how's bl lords servant?

meowtiger
July 7 2014, 01:40:20 AM
how bl lords servant?
These are words

LordsServant
July 7 2014, 01:49:05 AM
how bl lords servant?

Was p. decent (altho sitting in 10% tidi for nothing to happen 1/3 formups was sorta shit) until elo threw a temper tantrum and awoxed my archon because he was convinced I was streaming a BL fleet.

(http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=24279535)

http://www.twitch.tv/lords_serv/b/545109852

I wasn't, he obviously didn't check for himself - he fucked up and it was on him to make it right.

I went on a roam after that with some other BL guys, was waiting on reimbursement (and an apology) from him for being an asshat and awoxing me earlier.

Rather than acknowledging that he was wrong and fucked up, he logs back in, continues his temper tantrum, and kicks my chars from corp (this happened about ~10m before this post just now.)

I'm not sure what the morale of this story is.

Don't join BL? Don't fly caps in BL? Don't trust Elo?

On the plus side it was a fully insured minimum isk cheap triage archon (this happened after I sat in a POS with the rest of the fleet in 10% tidi for about 2 hours with nothing happening, was expecting to suicide it with the napoc fleet we were in) and he either didn't notice or didn't think to try awoxing my moros that was in the same fleet(also incredibly cheap t1 kspace fit and insured, but still more expensive than a throwaway triage).

It was an entertaining alt project while it lasted, and it provided some nice log-in-for-ping-and-pew content.

Grarr Dexx
July 7 2014, 01:51:55 AM
hahahaha oh fucking god my sides

Suyer
July 7 2014, 01:54:14 AM
how bl lords servant?

Was p. decent (altho sitting in 10% tidi for nothing to happen 1/3 formups was sorta shit) until elo threw a temper tantrum and awoxed my archon because he was convinced I was streaming a BL fleet.

(http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=24279535)

http://www.twitch.tv/lords_serv/b/545109852

I wasn't, he obviously didn't check for himself - he fucked up and it was on him to make it right.

I went on a roam after that with some other BL guys, was waiting on reimbursement (and an apology) from him for being an asshat and awoxing me earlier.

Rather than acknowledging that he was wrong and fucked up, he logs back in, continues his temper tantrum, and kicks my chars from corp (this happened about ~10m before this post just now.)

I'm not sure what the morale of this story is.

Don't join BL? Don't fly caps in BL? Don't trust Elo?

On the plus side it was a fully insured minimum isk cheap triage archon (this happened after I sat in a POS with the rest of the fleet in 10% tidi for about 2 hours with nothing happening, was expecting to suicide it with the napoc fleet we were in) and he either didn't notice or didn't think to try awoxing my moros that was in the same fleet(also incredibly cheap t1 kspace fit and insured, but still more expensive than a throwaway triage).

It was an entertaining alt project while it lasted, and it provided some nice log-in-for-ping-and-pew content.

LOL.

"I didn't want those caps anyway"

Don't worry lords I've spoken to the man himself (elo) and congratulated him on his glorious achievement, he is not sorry for your loss. If it makes you feel any better, broski has been kicked as well in a fit of rage from elo when he realized we've been 100% inactive for the past 2 months. You're in the same boat as us now buddy.

HIGH FIVE!

ron mexxico
July 7 2014, 02:00:18 AM
was a rhetorical question i know what happened

LordsServant
July 7 2014, 02:03:25 AM
Much like any :LordsServant: event this even gets its own reddit thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2a0b9p/heres_your_reimbursement_and_apology_post_a/

<---Not relevant.

Doombunny
July 7 2014, 02:04:19 AM
shedding that ~dead weight~:popcorn:

Suyer
July 7 2014, 02:05:58 AM
No lords, you're just so irrelevant that you're actually relevant for your irrelevance.

LordsServant
July 7 2014, 02:09:47 AM
shedding that ~dead weight~:popcorn:

Confirming that I, as someone competent dualboxing caps/subcaps etc etc every fleet and volunteering for non-dps subcap roles (I think I flew dps outside of pete fleets all of twice) am ~dead weight~.

New BL is leaner, meaner, and totally a place you should volunteer to fly caps in. ;)

This stuff happened, it's in the past, I'm obviously not receiving an apology or reimbursement, I just want folks to know that elo awoxed someones cap for a mistaken reason(streaming fleet), and then refused to admit he fucked up.

Grarr Dexx
July 7 2014, 02:12:49 AM
kill yourself

LordsServant
July 7 2014, 02:14:10 AM
kill yourself

u r shit n fukken shit m8

(in fountain, delve, querious, and period basis, in regards to the current discussion in this fine W&P thread. Just posting my side's propaganda here)

Mordax
July 7 2014, 02:21:49 AM
kill yourself

Kill youare self's mom's dick in hell forever

Doombunny
July 7 2014, 02:23:41 AM
shedding that ~dead weight~:popcorn:

Confirming that I, as someone competent dualboxing caps/subcaps etc etc every fleet and volunteering for non-dps subcap roles (I think I flew dps outside of pete fleets all of twice) am ~dead weight~.
you were dead weight because you were really fucking annoying and an idiot

hey guise, shield archons

Smarnca
July 7 2014, 03:00:11 AM
justice for autistm

Ivy_Lash
July 7 2014, 03:00:27 AM
shedding that ~dead weight~:popcorn:

Confirming that I, as someone competent dualboxing caps/subcaps etc etc every fleet and volunteering for non-dps subcap roles (I think I flew dps outside of pete fleets all of twice) am ~dead weight~.
you were dead weight because you were really fucking annoying and an idiot

hey guise, shield archons

Yeah he came into the Tempest Legion channel one day and started talking about how a shield triage archon was the only way to fit a triage carrier. He then quietly muttered "afk guys gonna get some food." Nobody wanted to say what we were all thinking at the time... but I did and these were the last few words I said to Lords "I hope you choke on it."

Bam Stroker
July 7 2014, 03:04:43 AM
http://i.imgur.com/bLTfFgb.gif

Keeves
July 7 2014, 05:14:04 AM
BL knowingly recruiting lords shows how dire their situation might have been.

BL knowingly kicking lords shows there is hope.

Bocephus
July 7 2014, 08:52:37 AM
It's ok we have keen34 now.

Lex Arson
July 7 2014, 03:08:47 PM
Suicide isn't funny

I'm pouring out a 40 for you Lords

derpatalk

lil zyphad
July 7 2014, 03:30:50 PM
INIT are so bad. First CFC form 1000 dudes and they get 10 people. lol They should have brought this dank fit carrier. http://pasta.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=24282542

Then they came to PR- to let us know how they don't respect us because we have way too many blues and don't fly expensive enough ships for them to waste their time.
http://pastebin.com/2xgNn4kL

Hey Lords j o i n p a s t a

Smarnca
July 7 2014, 04:17:02 PM
INIT are so bad. First CFC form 1000 dudes and they get 10 people. lol They should have brought this dank fit carrier. http://pasta.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=24282542

Then they came to PR- to let us know how they don't respect us because we have way too many blues and don't fly expensive enough ships for them to waste their time.
http://pastebin.com/2xgNn4kL

Hey Lords j o i n p a s t a

tl:dr also lol pasta

LordsServant
July 7 2014, 04:17:36 PM
More pastebin:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2a1ye6/i_heard_you_guys_like_pastebin_chatlogs/

lil zyphad
July 7 2014, 04:31:37 PM
tl:dr also lol pasta

Here's a tl:dr for you:

[ 2014.07.07 02:21:21 ] Sussi Pusy Lollipop > damn its like champagne on my boobs

LoKiPP
July 7 2014, 06:23:22 PM
I'm not sure what the morale of this story is.

You seem to have a hard time realizing this so here it is as bluntly as possible. Your personality fucking blows. The way you talk, the way you hold yourself, everything you do constantly grinds people's patients to the point where you are known as the village derp of eve online.

I would rather have Xenuria in my alliance than you.

sharptoast
July 7 2014, 07:24:57 PM
I'm not sure what the morale of this story is.

You seem to have a hard time realizing this so here it is as bluntly as possible. Your personality fucking blows. The way you talk, the way you hold yourself, everything you do constantly grinds people's patients to the point where you are known as the village derp of eve online.

Smarnca
July 7 2014, 07:35:32 PM
I'm not sure what the morale of this story is.

You seem to have a hard time realizing this so here it is as bluntly as possible. Your personality fucking blows. The way you talk, the way you hold yourself, everything you do constantly grinds people's patients to the point where you are known as the village derp of eve online.

Melichor
July 7 2014, 09:24:15 PM
TIL people on the Internet don't always get along

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Joshua Foiritain
July 7 2014, 10:32:30 PM
I'm not sure what the morale of this story is.

You seem to have a hard time realizing this so here it is as bluntly as possible. Your personality fucking blows. The way you talk, the way you hold yourself, everything you do constantly grinds people's patients to the point where you are known as the village derp of eve online.

LordsServant
July 7 2014, 10:44:08 PM
TIL people on the Internet don't always get along

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

P. much.

I also like how every person pyramid posting here has never actually flown with me, doesn't know me, and is repeating a horrifically bad poast complete with spelling errors. ;)

lil zyphad
July 7 2014, 10:53:03 PM
I would rather have Xenuria in my alliance than you.

Wowwwwwwwwww. #justiceforlords #eloishitler

meowtiger
July 7 2014, 11:04:35 PM
I also like how every person pyramid posting here has never actually flown with me

Take it from me, he's not bad, just obnoxious

Randemuser
July 7 2014, 11:08:20 PM
He is an arrogant person who can be obnoxious but this pile-on is disgusting. Be ashamed of yourself.

LoKiPP
July 7 2014, 11:14:44 PM
I also like how every person pyramid posting here has never actually flown with me

Take it from me, he's not bad, just obnoxious

I've seen your reddit posting, you don't hold that much weight.

ron mexxico
July 7 2014, 11:16:37 PM
TIL people on the Internet don't always get along

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

P. much.

I also like how every person pyramid posting here has never actually flown with me, doesn't know me, and is repeating a horrifically bad poast complete with spelling errors. ;)

i do actually agree this specific incident was mega shitty and shitlerlike but i can't help but feel it was payback in the making for you shitting up corp chat for months

meowtiger
July 7 2014, 11:18:02 PM
I've seen your reddit posting, you don't hold that much weight.

I don't like you

Ivy_Lash
July 8 2014, 12:11:51 AM
INIT are so bad. First CFC form 1000 dudes and they get 10 people. lol They should have brought this dank fit carrier. http://pasta.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=24282542

Then they came to PR- to let us know how they don't respect us because we have way too many blues and don't fly expensive enough ships for them to waste their time.
http://pastebin.com/2xgNn4kL

Hey Lords j o i n p a s t a

Be proud. Don't be a part of a society that holds back foot fetishes.

QuackBot
July 8 2014, 01:00:17 AM
I don't like you
I like you.

meowtiger
July 8 2014, 01:34:57 AM
I don't like you
I like you.
<3

Keeves
July 8 2014, 02:51:56 AM
TIL people on the Internet don't always get along

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

P. much.

I also like how every person pyramid posting here has never actually flown with me, doesn't know me, and is repeating a horrifically bad poast complete with spelling errors. ;)

Remember that one twitch feed where your shield archon got shit on by a moros and a bhaal and you spouted three different excuses as to why it was still a great fit and monumentally better than an armor archon?
That's all people need to know to realize you're a shit.

Bocephus
July 9 2014, 06:04:40 PM
directorbot: PREPARE TO DEPLOY/CEO UPDATE TODAY: Good morning! With both NCdot and Nulli having made their move, and with MoA's home being overrun by irate Thetans in 5XZZ, now is the perfect time for some home-away-from-space-home excitement. Get your shit packed and ready (Railgus/Baltecs), details coming ~soon~.


Early rumors are Delve. Should be interesting.

Obligatory:

http://i.imgur.com/Hf1yqgr.gif

Smarnca
July 9 2014, 06:55:14 PM
The Mittani is going to make a glorious speech again about how CFC is going to shit on N3 just like they did in hallowen war.
diaf

LordsServant
July 9 2014, 07:01:59 PM
The Mittani is going to make a glorious speech again about how CFC is going to shit on N3 just like they did in hallowen war.
diaf

Stabbing them repeatedly in the heart while packing their fudge and NCdot is literally BoB and CFC are the underdogs here and this is literally a fight for their life and it's so totes unfair and they're blobbing us with caps because we lost our edge with the russian bloc *insert more rape scenario and :narrative: here*

Bocephus
July 9 2014, 10:23:43 PM
Delve it is, complete with all the cliches: http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-delve-entitlement

Lex Arson
July 9 2014, 10:36:02 PM
can we unite the legions and kill the coons yet? surely pl/nc./bl can kill them 4 good, nulli can tag along too

opus i just want to be friends

meowtiger
July 9 2014, 10:41:51 PM
Delve it is, complete with all the cliches: http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-delve-entitlement

holy shit smug rape victim fantasy trigger warning


can we unite the legions

legion legion, too strong to live

edit:


Adding to our arsenal of methods to fuck with NPC dwellers, let's not forget hobojamming: where an interdictor pilot repeatedly undocks, bubbles, and redocks as an enemy fleet helplessly tries to use their capitals.

why again did we decide that it was a good idea for dictors to not get aggression when dropping a bubble? more importantly, what shitlord at ccp decided that for us?

lil zyphad
July 9 2014, 10:46:27 PM
Capital-heavy alliances are particularly vulnerable to this when staging in NPC territory, so when we visit Delve let's make sure to have hobojammers in PR-8CA (where PASTA currently stage)

Our 4 dreads will be rendered entirely ineffective. Also no mention of BL. that relevance.

Bocephus
July 9 2014, 11:05:38 PM
can we unite the legions and kill the coons yet? surely pl/nc./bl can kill them 4 good, nulli can tag along too

opus i just want to be friends

one day ))

LordsServant
July 9 2014, 11:22:26 PM
Adding to our arsenal of methods to fuck with NPC dwellers, let's not forget hobojamming: where an interdictor pilot repeatedly undocks, bubbles, and redocks as an enemy fleet helplessly tries to use their capitals.

why again did we decide that it was a good idea for dictors to not get aggression when dropping a bubble? more importantly, what shitlord at ccp decided that for us?

All someone has to do is try to warp from within the bubble. IIRC it has to do with the way the aggression flagging mechanics work; basically you have to do something to another pilot/object in space for the flag to be called up. So essentially when you drop a bubble you have not affected the other pilots at all until they try to warp.

That would be balanced, and once upon a time it was that way.

Sadly, it is no longer that way.

A dictor can dock/undock and bubble forever with zero chance of ever getting aggro'd and ever dying. I pointed this out a while ago as being the most broken thing in the game since ever p. much.

He gets zero aggro from someone attempting to warp in his bubble.

Also, this part particularly tickled me pink:


One of the quirky side-effects of conquering half the galaxy is that our enemies do not merely point their fingers and blame us for their repeated failures, but now they have begun to insist that we somehow owe them content delivered in a fashion they approve of by virtue of our victories. These are either the people who have tried to remove us from 0.0 since we began our adventures in Eve, the people who bandwagoned with our enemies in hopes of accomplishing the same, or the people who betrayed us when they were our allies: indeed, we owe them. It is a laughably hypocritical perspective: they would not extend us any such kindness had they ever been victorious, yet expect us to dab their tear-stained cheeks and offer them an Eve experience tailored to their whims.

Back when we won as the DRF, for shits n giggles, a few folks tried a halfhearted headshot of vfk. Goons put up a GF there, so rather than actually going full srs mode and removing them from their space (which would've been easy given the balance of the game at the time, and the military capability of the DRF) we chose to let them keep their space. Shortly after this pretty much everyone in the DRF reset each other and we got around to having GFs between each other AND the goons. At the time, a large amount of us (myself included) admired the goons for repeatedly putting a fight and at least trying, unlike the NC which did nothing but stand down repeatedly for the last 1/3 or so of the DRF invasion.

That whole "delivering the other side content"?

That is EXACTLY what we did - mittens :narrative: isn't even close to being right here at all. :S

Longdrinks
July 9 2014, 11:34:53 PM
If you like pvping in nullsec and love pooping on sov alliances when they are deployed and theres 100s of retards flying around not really knowing what the fuck nows the time time to get down to delve!
http://courier.brettygood.us/ takes your shit to pr- in npc delve for a fair price. so why dont you load up a inty and get on down!

Aliventi
July 9 2014, 11:40:49 PM
That is EXACTLY what we did - mittens :narrative: isn't even close to being right here at all. :S
It's Mittens narrative. It doesn't have to be anywhere near right for people to believe it.

Tetsuo
July 9 2014, 11:45:23 PM
I love that goons have gone so fucking far off the autism spectrum that their primary gameplay seems to be not playing the game to make sure nobody else gets to play the game either. How much of an aspie do you actually have to be where not fighting anybody to make sure nobody gets the chance to fight you is winning because you're depriving other people of "content"?

Bocephus
July 9 2014, 11:48:36 PM
The problem with the warp in bubble mechanic is a sacrificial lamb can constantly reaggro the dictor pilot and keep in system for up to three minutes. I think a compromise could be worked out if a dictor pilot could destroy his bubbles at will.

Ummmmm, I'm not seeing the problem here; don't drop the bubble if you can't take the heat?



The problem with the warp in bubble mechanic is a sacrificial lamb can constantly reaggro the dictor pilot and keep in system for up to three minutes. I think a compromise could be worked out if a dictor pilot could destroy his bubbles at will.
How again is that a problem?

It's easy to say that in a vacuum but it was beyond super lame in practice. It got to the point that dropping a bubble against a skilled group meant a sure death for the dictor. Sometimes immediately while trying to catch up, sometimes hours later when the frustrated pilot tried to make his way home. It's probably why CCP quietly removed it.

meowtiger
July 9 2014, 11:50:02 PM
for some groups, it's about controlling space. for others, controlling moon goo, or having good fites, or elite kb stats. for goons, it used to be about smugging on eve-o, then kugu, and now the entirety of goon gameplay revolves around giving mittens opportunities to smug on his own website.

his website is literally a shrine to his giant aspie smugfuck ego, and the fact that he lives off its ad income means his smug is not unfounded, unfortunately

vyshnegradsky
July 10 2014, 01:07:16 AM
Obligatory "Join Pasta, Awoxing guarantees citizenship"

Ivy_Lash
July 10 2014, 06:49:28 AM
I am not looking forward to this "deployment" because now I have to read the shit stained posts of Northern Observer.

Marlona Sky
July 10 2014, 08:36:44 AM
I am not looking forward to this "deployment" because now I have to read the shit stained posts of Northern Observer.

I'm going to talk to Vince tomorrow and see if we can go back to FAT. Northern Observer's posting is too terrible to punish everyone like this. Apologies. :(

Lex Arson
July 10 2014, 05:03:33 PM
you actually can stop a dictor from doing it. takes 1 bomb v0v it's not even that hard!

Yep. Bombing your own undock when your guys are trying to get out the station goes over really well. Try it ncdot!

they already DD friendly caps on the undock; think of all the damage one disgruntled bomber pilot could inflict on NC.'s undocking cap fleet

derpatalk

Marlona Sky
July 10 2014, 05:13:00 PM
you actually can stop a dictor from doing it. takes 1 bomb v0v it's not even that hard!

Yep. Bombing your own undock when your guys are trying to get out the station goes over really well. Try it ncdot!

they already DD friendly caps on the undock; think of all the damage one disgruntled bomber pilot could inflict on NC.'s undocking cap fleet

derpatalk

Beware Whiskey Night!!! :ohnoes:

Bam Stroker
July 10 2014, 06:26:48 PM
I love that goons have gone so fucking far off the autism spectrum that their primary gameplay seems to be not playing the game to make sure nobody else gets to play the game either.

You've just described Goons' (and by that I mean actual Something Awful members and not the J4Gs that the GSF is overrun with these days) traditional approach to MMOs. Historically they'd just marshal a horde on the SA forums, fall upon an MMO in a maelstrom of sperg and leave once there were no more tears left to wring out. I guess the fact they found some success in Eve and earned some actual fame & notoriety in a game for once made them buckle down. Eve Goons forgot they were SA Goons. Now, some 8 years later it's as if they've finally remembered that their raison d'etre is to prevent other people from having fun and they're getting back to their roots - siege fleet, hobojamming etc.

Not saying some kind of resurgence of Goon values is actually what's happening here or anything - I just thought it was funny that Eve Goons have strayed so far off the SA reservation that when they start behaving like ~actual Goons~ people don't know what to make of it. :)

Cue1*
July 10 2014, 07:10:26 PM
I split the hobbocamping posts off to here (http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?17173-Hobbocamping-with-dictors).

Lex Arson
July 10 2014, 09:58:28 PM
This is the face I picture you making whenever you perform mod actions:

http://failheap-challenge.com/image.php?u=419&dateline=1404281723

Pyra!
July 11 2014, 12:37:14 AM
I'm going to talk to Vince tomorrow and see if we can go back to FAT.

Could you? We're down to LAWN and C02 in CKZ now that you guys have deployed and it's getting a little slow.

friznit
July 11 2014, 09:55:04 AM
Not saying some kind of resurgence of Goon values is actually what's happening here or anything - I just thought it was funny that Eve Goons have strayed so far off the SA reservation that when they start behaving like ~actual Goons~ people don't know what to make of it. :)

Nop. Goonswarm has simply long since become the very thing they purported to hate in Eve. If they were truly returning to their SA principles they'd kill themselves.

Keckers
July 11 2014, 12:57:45 PM
Well they'd at least disband the CFC in the most spectacular and tear fueled manner possible. But maybe they're just playing the long con at the moment.

Orar Ironfist
July 11 2014, 03:53:16 PM
Well they'd at least disband the CFC in the most spectacular and tear fueled manner possible. But maybe they're just playing the long con at the moment.

That would actually be hilarious and amazing if they'd been spending all this time building a collation just to completely ruin 30,000 people's games with the disband.

Longdrinks
July 11 2014, 04:19:10 PM
Probably not since mittani is having too much fun with being space emperor.

Orar Ironfist
July 11 2014, 04:54:12 PM
Personally I just hate his spin narrative and propaganda. I can't blame the guy though for what he's doing because honestly if I was in his shoes I'm not sure I'd behave differently.

Keckers
July 11 2014, 05:24:26 PM
Remember he is a massive larping need so role playing a dreadful propaganda spewing space emperor is probably pretty rewarding for him

FatFreddy
July 11 2014, 06:21:05 PM
"roleplaying" aka giving people an excuse for not hiding their social deficiencies

Keckers
July 11 2014, 07:06:48 PM
He spends his free time larping. I don't think he cares about hiding social deficiencies.

Bam Stroker
July 11 2014, 08:22:49 PM
He spends his free time larping. I don't think he cares about hiding social deficiencies.

Plus he's probably out hitting dudes with a sword right now giving no fucks while we're all here talking about him on the internet. P. sure he's winning.

Bocephus
July 29 2014, 05:43:40 AM
Had a decent brawl in Delve tonight over an R64. CFC outnumbered, still played the underdog card in their pings and went for headshots. But even getting them to fight in US TZ is progress, so we'll take it.

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4708&b=6087000&e=90&t=buvuqvab

Keckers
July 29 2014, 09:40:30 AM
You should've given them some token dread kills or something to start building hubris

Orar Ironfist
July 29 2014, 01:51:29 PM
You should've given them some token dread kills or something to start building hubris

It's ok, those were sacrificial dreads that were insured. So none of those counted.

Ivy_Lash
July 31 2014, 02:58:59 AM
Had a decent brawl in Delve tonight over an R64. CFC outnumbered, still played the underdog card in their pings and went for headshots. But even getting them to fight in US TZ is progress, so we'll take it.

http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4708&b=6087000&e=90&t=buvuqvab

That fight sucked.

I was killed first and spent the next 20 minutes trying to self-destruct my pod. Someone said reship and I just literally laughed out loud and booted up DayZ (The mod).

RIP EVE RIP SPACE RIP SMALL-GANG PVP

meowtiger
July 31 2014, 07:41:15 AM
It's ok, those were sacrificial dreads that were insured. So none of those counted.

i never understood how that became a valid argument. "the ships were insured so it doesn't matter that they died" well they died, that's kinda the whole point isn't it?

Keckers
July 31 2014, 05:36:54 PM
It's ok, those were sacrificial dreads that were insured. So none of those counted.

i never understood how that became a valid argument. "the ships were insured so it doesn't matter that they died" well they died, that's kinda the whole point isn't it?

It's an argument from the 'already replaced' camp.

Orar Ironfist
July 31 2014, 09:01:11 PM
It's ok, those were sacrificial dreads that were insured. So none of those counted.

i never understood how that became a valid argument. "the ships were insured so it doesn't matter that they died" well they died, that's kinda the whole point isn't it?

TMC recently was using it anytime they counter dropped dreads or caps on someone. They've decided that's a thing. I also do not understand it as literally everyone platinum insures caps.

ry ry
July 31 2014, 10:29:59 PM
I kinda like that this thread is still called the BoB lands. Band of brothers should totally reform and become the plucky young upstart dicking with the goonswarm monolith.

ry ry
July 31 2014, 10:31:08 PM
Ps. Grrrr goons.

Pps. Fuck goons, you are the cancer routing this game from the inside.

meowtiger
August 1 2014, 02:33:13 AM
I kinda like that this thread is still called the BoB lands. Band of brothers should totally reform and become the plucky young upstart dicking with the goonswarm monolith.
Well I mean... Aren't a lot of the old Bob corps still alive and kicking?

Orar Ironfist
August 1 2014, 02:43:28 AM
I kinda like that this thread is still called the BoB lands. Band of brothers should totally reform and become the plucky young upstart dicking with the goonswarm monolith.
Well I mean... Aren't a lot of the old Bob corps still alive and kicking?

And in NC. Sir Molle even still plays. IIRC Molle lost his titan(again) in B-R

meowtiger
August 1 2014, 03:42:44 AM
I kinda like that this thread is still called the BoB lands. Band of brothers should totally reform and become the plucky young upstart dicking with the goonswarm monolith.
Well I mean... Aren't a lot of the old Bob corps still alive and kicking?

And in NC. Sir Molle even still plays. IIRC Molle lost his titan(again) in B-R
Doesn't count unless it was on shrike

Aliventi
August 1 2014, 04:53:15 AM
I kinda like that this thread is still called the BoB lands. Band of brothers should totally reform and become the plucky young upstart dicking with the goonswarm monolith.
Well I mean... Aren't a lot of the old Bob corps still alive and kicking?

And in NC. Sir Molle even still plays. IIRC Molle lost his titan(again) in B-R
Doesn't count unless it was on shrike
Number 5 IIRC. (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21607215)

meowtiger
August 1 2014, 05:01:18 AM
Attn molle, Idk if you know this but a rah on a titan in a supercap fight isn't a very good idea. hth

Orar Ironfist
August 1 2014, 01:59:42 PM
Attn molle, Idk if you know this but a rah on a titan in a supercap fight isn't a very good idea. hth

It's not stacking penalized withe the EANM's so yes, it is actually not a bad fitting choice. And if you look at all the Erebus' on the mail, in 10% TiDi, it probably helped.

LoKiPP
August 1 2014, 11:04:25 PM
Attn molle, Idk if you know this but a rah on a titan in a supercap fight isn't a very good idea. hth

You really don't know shit.

meowtiger
August 1 2014, 11:15:12 PM
Attn molle, Idk if you know this but a rah on a titan in a supercap fight isn't a very good idea. hth

It's not stacking penalized withe the EANM's so yes, it is actually not a bad fitting choice. And if you look at all the Erebus' on the mail, in 10% TiDi, it probably helped.
Just saying, it's stacking penalized with a dcu, and there's sure to be a good variety of damage types in the form of fighter bombers. Idk. Could bear further maths.

Loki: I don't like you

Lex Arson
August 1 2014, 11:29:38 PM
that fight was kinda dominated by DD's not bombers tho, but would it have time to have cycled up to full strength I think not

Cue1*
August 2 2014, 01:02:59 AM
that fight was kinda dominated by DD's not bombers tho, but would it have time to have cycled up to full strength I think not

Considering dreads weren't actually dealing damage, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's totally possible that the RAH wasn't even working properly anyway. Might have just sat on even resists all fight long.

meowtiger
August 2 2014, 02:20:48 AM
that fight was kinda dominated by DD's not bombers tho, but would it have time to have cycled up to full strength I think not

Considering dreads weren't actually dealing damage, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's totally possible that the RAH wasn't even working properly anyway. Might have just sat on even resists all fight long.
ccccc

either mods are cycling and you're taking damage from dreads and supers mucking up the whole thing, or mods aren't cycling properly and you're probably just gonna die to a dd volley in which case the rah won't have time to cycle, if it's cycling properly at all

LoKiPP
August 2 2014, 03:26:30 AM
Loki: I don't like you

I don't give a shit. On this forum and reddit you have been wrong a crazy amount of times. You do not speak from experience, you speak 2nd hand knowledge and frankly a lot of it has been straight wrong.

Don't get pissy because you keep getting called out, stop spewing retarded shit.

Edit: he probably wasn't even able to refit in the first place. Even with tons of caps in range your mods just disappeared while trying to drag mods over. It was better to just keep the fit you jumped in with. I was one of the lucky ones, it took me over 4 hours to refit to nuets, smart bombs and shield mods.

2nd edit: by fitting the RAH the flat resists gives you the most ehp in the first place, not accounting for the resist phasing.

Orar Ironfist
August 2 2014, 03:28:36 AM
that fight was kinda dominated by DD's not bombers tho, but would it have time to have cycled up to full strength I think not

Considering dreads weren't actually dealing damage, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's totally possible that the RAH wasn't even working properly anyway. Might have just sat on even resists all fight long.
ccccc

either mods are cycling and you're taking damage from dreads and supers mucking up the whole thing, or mods aren't cycling properly and you're probably just gonna die to a dd volley in which case the rah won't have time to cycle, if it's cycling properly at all

Let me make this very simple. Assuming Damnation/Erebus/Caymore links with mindlinks and HG slaves/HG-1008(I don't know exactly what he was getting, but we're assuming max links for max ehp)

Avatar with that exact setup:
EM/THERM/KIN/EXP
93.2/91.1/89.8/89.1 (before OH)
95.6/94.3/93.4/93 (after OH)
EHP(before overheat): 53,292,140
EHP (after overheat): 80,877,632
Avatar with that setup but instead of an RAH we'll add another A-type EANM
EM/THERM/KIN/EXP
92.6/90.4/88.9/88.2 (before OH)
95.2/93.8/92.8/92.4 (after OH)
EHP(before overheat): 49,337,692
EHP(after overheat): 74,741,416

So, according to EFT, you get a cool ~4mil EHP better then an EANM before overheating with an RAH just sitting happily at it's basic resists. After overheat you get ~6mil EHP. So again. The RAH is better.

meowtiger
August 2 2014, 03:30:39 AM
i mean you and i have the same join date so i don't really understand how this could have gone over your head but this is an internet forum full of syndicate nerds talking about things happening not in syndicate

post less, post smarter, stop being such a whiny dick about everything, this isn't kugu and you're annoying bye

LoKiPP
August 2 2014, 03:33:53 AM
:psyblown: