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Daneel Trevize
May 24 2012, 11:07:45 AM
Just theory for now, anyone got anything more concrete before I CBA to test?

Before Inferno:
[Rokh, Active tank 2]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


After Inferno:
[Rokh, Inferno]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I


Valkyrie II x5

WU-1003 to fit. Awaiting prices on ASBs and POU rigs.

Sparkus Volundar
May 24 2012, 11:28:18 AM
Please could you add some stats for comparison?

Varcaus
May 24 2012, 12:21:51 PM
And you might want add 800s in the cap booster.

Daneel Trevize
May 24 2012, 12:33:48 PM
400s because otherwise you're looking at mixed stacks in your cargo, or not the most cycles from the ASBs.
I thought after this that maybe it's a candidate for the 1 ASB, 1 regular SB, with mixed charges, but again something to test along with similarly done LSB Claymores.

Stats are tricky, especially how ASBs perform, and what links & implants you're rocking. IMHO active shield ships need to be looked at as a whole, of cap stability, speed, etc, so why not just load it up?
Basically they're 1000dps dealt. 8km optimal + 20km falloff, 0.77 tracking with faction AM.
55-60k EHP in shields, another 40k in armour & hull.
3-4.3k peak tank on the first one with max links, HG Crystals, Strong Blue Pill, heat and then cap issues.
The second is 4k tank 'stable' before heat just with LG crystals, Standard Blue Pill and non-max T2 siege links. Empty of ASB charges and using the injector, PyFA's claiming 2-3.8k tank but only 315 sustainable, 15-35secs cap, so basically it's down to how you juggle the ASBs with charges loaded while also keeping your cap topped up to survive any peak dps/need to reload ASB/neuting. Each ASB's doing 2k tank when on charges and something like 40seconds to empty them.

Anyone know if shield cycle rate and cap usage rigs affect ASBs? Or only when they're running from your cap, or not at all?

Does this ship want a web rather than an mwd? Or all 3 and thus no room for dual SBs?

Rebelike
May 24 2012, 12:45:20 PM
They do carry 13 cap charges each, but is that enough to last a fight?

I'd prefer to use the new shield boosters as a tool to rep my buffer up in a fight really fast, so i can do buffer + active tanked shield ships.

Also http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?291-Rokh =D

Daneel Trevize
May 24 2012, 12:50:31 PM
Fucking why is the subforum search so bad?!

...rohk... rokh... :facepalm:

I found the PvE thread, I swear!

Also this is a shield BS, kinda hard to add even 25k more EHP via LSEs & CDFEs.

[Rokh, Inferno buffer + ASB?]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I


Valkyrie II x5

Gang+Mind Links are OP. 100k ehp, 2k+ tank. 1160dps before implants/Void.

Rebelike
May 24 2012, 01:00:43 PM
I'm not sure the new shield booster would be the right shield booster to add on a rokh, tbh. I'd go for a normal one =D

Also, are that a new eft or is it pyfa?

Daneel Trevize
May 24 2012, 01:04:11 PM
New PyFA as stated. I figured ASB because the hull's resist bonus leads to more natural buffer than say a Maelstrom's, buying you more time to reload. And it has PG & CPU to fit 2 XL ones plus basically max damage fit.

With web?
[Rokh, Inferno no mwd, +web 2]

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Fourier Transform Tracking Program

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Valkyrie II x5