[PvE] Nightmare

[Sponk]

[Nightmare, This is a Total Logistical Nightmare]

Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I

[Rudolf Miller]

Dear OP.

I wish to point out that your setup is in fact very foolish. You have chosen to use a ship with strong combat bonuses for logistical purposes. Furthermore, you mixed remote armor repairing with a shield buffer tank. It seems to me you must adjust your ship setup to better fit the role, rather than posting what you have.

I hope this will constructively increase the quality of your fits.

Below is my personal L4 PVE setup.


[Nightmare, sansha's true nightmare]
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Damage Control II

Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field
Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
True Sansha Medium Nosferatu

Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Ancillary Current Router II


Hammerhead II x5

1200 DPS with an 1100 DPS sustained tank. It's quite nice.

[Varcaus]

Highend Incursion Nightmare. Make sure to have linked tengu boosts

[Nightmare, Incurison]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Large 'Regard' Power Projector
Large 'Regard' Power Projector

Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Cap Recharger II

Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I

[kyrieee]

I don't know, that fit is cutting it pretty close. 12k buffer before gang links is not a lot, especially if you're blizting OTAs.
Also, if you're running the cap transfers you don't need the other cap mods.

In a private fleet you can probably get away with the fit, but I would expect to die in a pubbie fleet. You can pretty much be vollied into 1/3 shield with so little buffer.

[Varcaus]

I don't know, that fit is cutting it pretty close. 12k buffer before gang links is not a lot, especially if you're blizting OTAs.
Also, if you're running the cap transfers you don't need the other cap mods.

In a private fleet you can probably get away with the fit, but I would expect to die in a pubbie fleet. You can pretty much be vollied into 1/3 shield with so little buffer.

Cap trans are for if a logi dies/dc or just dont have a second basi. Yeah private fleets only mindlinked tengus are a must to keep it alive.

[tighten]

[Nightmare, This is a Total Logistical Nightmare]

Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I

I'm sry but we do we have logi nms?
And its such a cheap fit wtf? Officer or GTFO

[Daneel Trevize]

Maybe it's like those that use RR legions for Vanguards, to make it look like you have more dps and/or aren't ready to go in a site. Also something to fly while you max your gunnery...

[Munchies]

Highend Incursion Nightmare. Make sure to have linked tengu boosts

[Nightmare, Incurison]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Large 'Regard' Power Projector
Large 'Regard' Power Projector

Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Shadow Serpentis Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
True Sansha Stasis Webifier
Cap Recharger II

Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I


c-type invuls are only 45 mil more than caldari navy

[Varcaus]

Yeah just havnt updated pyfa yet. Not a big deal either way I think.

[Stormscion]

someone share public friendly fit ? :)

[Helen]

I should really infract the OP for that fit.

[Varcaus]

someone share public friendly fit ? :)

[Nightmare, Randoms]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Can swap a lse for a sebo if you have good logi/boosts.

[Malaes]

someone share public friendly fit ? :)

[Nightmare, Randoms]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Can swap a lse for a sebo if you have good logi/boosts.

You get better resists with this:

[Nightmare, Randoms]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

[Rebelike]

[Nightmare, This is a Total Logistical Nightmare]

Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I


Wrong!

This game is a total logistical nightmare

http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/extras/image/name/san2/300/273300/original/rush.jpg

USER WAS INFRACTED FOR THIS POST.

[Helen]

[Nightmare, This is a Total Logistical Nightmare]

Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I


Wrong!

This game is a total logistical nightmare

http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/extras/image/name/san2/300/273300/original/rush.jpg

Oh hi you made me moderate, have an infraction to think about why what you posted is helpful to the thread and only serves to derail it into a shitposting frenzy which unless I start has no place in this section of the forums.

[Varcaus]

someone share public friendly fit ? :)

[Nightmare, Randoms]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Can swap a lse for a sebo if you have good logi/boosts.

You get better resists with this:

[Nightmare, Randoms]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

Proably better going with this then.

[Lunkwill]

You get better resists with this:

[Nightmare, Randoms]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


You can lose 6k EHP (120k instead of 126k) but gain a tracking computer and a sensorbooster:

[Nightmare, Randoms2]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Computer II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I




I you could join the cap chain, you could drop the cap mods:
[Nightmare, Randoms3]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Large Energy Transfer Array II
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

9k range on the transfer array is a problem though.

[The Djego]

I flown this a lot in Incursions and it did the job quite well:

[Nightmare, Incursion]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu
Large Energy Transfer Array II

Large Energy Metastasis Adjuster II
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Core Defence Field Extender I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Cap is ok most of the time, except if you get neuted all the time in OTAs(shuting off the mods during warps helps a lot). Having another BS as a cap buddy makes it stable for general game play.

104.8k EHP(112.7 EHP with the standard gang bonuses), 76% EM, 80.7% Thermal, 72,8% Kin, 77,4% Explo

DPS with both 5% imps:
1263 DPS @ 22+16 with Conflag
1132 DPS @ 22+16 with IN Multi
-> NMC Cruisers orbit at 18km(BS and Cruisers in OTAs below that) so you can use the 18+10 with the extra tracking most of the time here(works like a charm with simply overheating the web to 18km range even w/o bonuses)
902 DPS @ 66+16 with Scorch
+ 100-150 ish DPS from drones

You can swap out the thermal hardener for a sensor booster if you run lots of contests and the logis are on top of her game.

I never felt it necessary to throw expensive stuff like CN Invus or Pith hardeners on it, the NM is already one of the easier ships to keep alive in most shield gangs. Sure you can spare another mid for a 3. TC, 2. web or SB but it isn't really worth 1B+ since reboots, suicide ganks, disconnects or bugs can and will happen.

[Varcaus]

Really needs a sebo imo

[The Djego]

Really needs a sebo imo

If your gang is good, you can fit one without trouble(or simply get one form a logi). If not the extra resits are cool to help out slow logis and it doesn't matter this much(except if you really need to do NCOs with a BS gang, what is pretty rare today).