Mobile Phone Megathread

[Rudolf Miller]

What exactly is wrong with the SGS2? Nothing, aside from the sgs3 coming out next week or whatever.

As someone who has scoured the interwebs for a release date, I can assure you it's not next week.

[balistic void]

Ok sorry, they are announcing it in April. Official release will be in the coming months.

[Lana Torrin]

My phone is 13 months old and the battery has gone from 2+ days on charge to a day and a bit, which is a pain. But it's replaceable, so £30 and a new battery is mine.

What the fuck do you do to your batteries to require a new one after only a year?!

[SAI Peregrinus]

My phone is 13 months old and the battery has gone from 2+ days on charge to a day and a bit, which is a pain. But it's replaceable, so £30 and a new battery is mine.

What the fuck do you do to your batteries to require a new one after only a year?!

"2+ days on a charge" is the key. Draining them all the way can be bad for li-ion batteries. http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Table 2 is the important bit...


Depth of Discharge
Discharge Cycles


100%
500


50%
1500


25%
2500


10%
4700



So if you don't discharge your battery below, say, 75% you can expect it to last about 5x as long as if you are emptying it. 5 years vs 1 year by charging it whenever you get the chance. You don't want to charge it completely, but most phones have protection so "100% charged" is really 95% charged or so. Heat is also bad.

[elmicker]

...but most phones have protection so "100% charged" is really 95% charged or so. Heat is also bad.

The new iPad actually outright lies to its users to achieve this. At "fully charged" it continues to draw ~3W for another hour, dropping to the more realistic usage of 0.3-0.6W after that.

[ufk]

I'm 2 years in on my HTC legend, thing gets put on charge every night and I rarely run it below 40% charge. Battery is fine, with minimal use I can just about squeeze 2 days out of it, in normal use 24 hours is about average and the battery life doesn't seem to have degraded. Coming from a dumbphone Nokia the battery life was a shocker but I'd never go back to a dumbphone.

[Lana Torrin]

I'm 2 years in on my HTC legend, thing gets put on charge every night and I rarely run it below 40% charge. Battery is fine, with minimal use I can just about squeeze 2 days out of it, in normal use 24 hours is about average and the battery life doesn't seem to have degraded. Coming from a dumbphone Nokia the battery life was a shocker but I'd never go back to a dumbphone.

Same phone, same usage, im a year in and its looking as good as the day I got it..

Worked out my 'plan B' (assuming vodafail isnt going to let me out of contract a year early) is to just get a 7" tablet.. Now all I have to do is wait for those cheap Tegra 3 ones to hit the market....

[Aramendel]

I just did a double take when I noticed the author of that post. I swear you were arguing the exact opposite 2 years ago.

Unlikely ;) Never saw a replaceable battery as a major thing. Cannot think of anything I ever bought partly because it had a replaceable battery*. No SD Card, same thing. Depends on the basic phone storage though. 32 GB is IMO sufficient for a phone, but if it had only like 4 GB internal no SD card slot would matter for me.

The gist of it is basically:
If the battery lifetime is lower than the estimated time you want to use a device then a removable battery matters, of not it doesn't.
If the basic storage space of a device is not enough for you a SD card slot matters, if not it doesn't.

/edit *Actually, I can think of one occurrence. Bought a used notebook a couple of years back. It was fine, except that the battery was busted. If it had been build-in that laptop would have been a lot less useful to me, but since it wasn't its manufacturer even send me a new one free of charge. So I would say a removable battery can matter quite a lot of you want to buy a device used. If you buy a One X now, /care. If you buy one used in 3 years however...

[Lana Torrin]

I just did a double take when I noticed the author of that post. I swear you were arguing the exact opposite 2 years ago.

Unlikely ;) Never saw a replaceable battery as a major thing. Cannot think of anything I ever bought partly because it had a replaceable battery. No SD Card, same thing. Depends on the basic phone storage though. 32 GB is IMO sufficient for a phone, but if it had only like 4 GB internal no SD card slot would matter for me.

Just as a side note with the 32Gig internal thing.. Most phones can only take a 32Gig SD card anyway.. (I said most not all)

[ufk]

I'm 2 years in on my HTC legend, thing gets put on charge every night and I rarely run it below 40% charge. Battery is fine, with minimal use I can just about squeeze 2 days out of it, in normal use 24 hours is about average and the battery life doesn't seem to have degraded. Coming from a dumbphone Nokia the battery life was a shocker but I'd never go back to a dumbphone.

Same phone, same usage, im a year in and its looking as good as the day I got it..

Worked out my 'plan B' (assuming vodafail isnt going to let me out of contract a year early) is to just get a 7" tablet.. Now all I have to do is wait for those cheap Tegra 3 ones to hit the market....

TBH Vodafone offered me an upgrade a few days back to a Desire S, I turned it down and told them I'm letting my contract expire. Aside from the legendary Nokia that has become a meme the Legend is the toughest phone I've come across, mines been dropped several times from various (not small) heights and never really taken anything other than cosmetic damage in the form of the aluminium chassis being a bit beaten up. The glass is still pristine, no scratches in it, the damage to the chassis is a couple of dents in the top corners, I'll probably go SIM only on a 12 month contract when this one expires and keep the phone as I have it set up exactly how I like it with Cyanogen Mod and a few choice apps.

[Lana Torrin]

If I go with plan b then ill likely do the same.

[Jags]

Vodafufs finally called me back after :angryman: conversation last week. Seems I will get a further call back on release day and some "special offers" will be available so I can get a One X some time next week at a cost I will be happy to pay :D

[Spaztick]

http://i.imgur.com/8UiWC.png

[Rudolf Miller]

http://i.imgur.com/8UiWC.png

idgi :frysquint:

[balistic void]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Mobile-MicroSDXC-Memory-Adapter/dp/B005LFT40G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333613432&sr=8-1

Seems some phones that say they support "up to 32gb" actually work fine with this 64gb microsdxhc card. SGS2 is one. Apparently you get 59GB after formatting.

Bargain for 60 quid.

[Jags]

HTC One X in the post , will get Tuesday :D Same contract price as before , all is well in my world once again :D

[Marlona Sky]

The theme for FHC always defaults to the standard one on my phone. I want it to stay on the work friendly theme, but it always changes back.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, but thought this one fit the best.

[arian snow]

...but most phones have protection so "100% charged" is really 95% charged or so. Heat is also bad.

The new iPad actually outright lies to its users to achieve this. At "fully charged" it continues to draw ~3W for another hour, dropping to the more realistic usage of 0.3-0.6W after that.


Is the iPad battery single celled? if not those 3W could be due to cell balancing, which can take a long time depending on how the battery has be charged beforehand.

[Aea]

HTC One X in the post , will get Tuesday :D Same contract price as before , all is well in my world once again :D

I'm jelly, US Release is at least a month later =(

[Pattern]

...but most phones have protection so "100% charged" is really 95% charged or so. Heat is also bad.

The new iPad actually outright lies to its users to achieve this. At "fully charged" it continues to draw ~3W for another hour, dropping to the more realistic usage of 0.3-0.6W after that.


Is the iPad battery single celled? if not those 3W could be due to cell balancing, which can take a long time depending on how the battery has be charged beforehand.

Feature not a bug apparently:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal-tech/tablets/232700348

[Serious Bob]

I'm really tempted to get the Samsung Galaxy Note, anyone has any experience with it? I could also get the HTC One X, but I don't really care about graphic power above the level of rendering webpages. The notes big screen would maybe make watching movies/series actually interesting, and the battery would make it viable. I also like the idea of a stylus if it's neat for taking notes and draw on things. For lists and jotting down stuff typing usually feels too slow and cumbersome, and using the fingers on small screens just bulky and ugly. The note seems to solve those problems.

Currently I've had my Hero for two and a half years and it is starting to feel dated. (Eventhough it's super pretty.) I wonder if there's any fun mods to do to old phones? I would like to install it somewhere as a touch remote or maybe doing some light server task. Something!

tldr: Galaxy note, cool?

[Aea]

I'm really tempted to get the Samsung Galaxy Note, anyone has any experience with it? I could also get the HTC One X, but I don't really care about graphic power above the level of rendering webpages. The notes big screen would maybe make watching movies/series actually interesting, and the battery would make it viable. I also like the idea of a stylus if it's neat for taking notes and draw on things. For lists and jotting down stuff typing usually feels too slow and cumbersome, and using the fingers on small screens just bulky and ugly. The note seems to solve those problems.

Currently I've had my Hero for two and a half years and it is starting to feel dated. (Eventhough it's super pretty.) I wonder if there's any fun mods to do to old phones? I would like to install it somewhere as a touch remote or maybe doing some light server task. Something!

tldr: Galaxy note, cool?

Get an normal phone and a tablet IMHO. But yeah nothing wrong with the note if the size is what you want.

[Archer]

Have note and do love it. Size is addictive and all normal sized phones seem tiny now. As for getting multiple devices, that's about the silliest idea I've ever heard. Note fits so much text I don't even feel the need to use my desktop to browse the Web unless I'm doing something which requires a lot of input. And even then input is fast with Swype+stylus. As for the pen, I don't really use it but a colleague tried doodling with mine for a while and really liked it, it is reasonably accurate.

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[Lana Torrin]

As for getting multiple devices, that's about the silliest idea I've ever heard.

Personally I think putting a device that is 6" across up to your head to make a phone call is pretty silly but it comes down to what people want. I can see the appeal of the note, but personally im going for a 3" phone (my legend) and a 7" tablet so I get the best of both worlds.

[Bombcrater]

Having lived with a 5" phone for more than six months there's no way I'd go back to something smaller. It's just too useful having tablet-style browsing and phone capability without having to carry another device. But it's obviously not for everyone.

[Stoffl]

Have note and do love it. Size is addictive and all normal sized phones seem tiny now. As for getting multiple devices, that's about the silliest idea I've ever heard. Note fits so much text I don't even feel the need to use my desktop to browse the Web unless I'm doing something which requires a lot of input. And even then input is fast with Swype+stylus. As for the pen, I don't really use it but a colleague tried doodling with mine for a while and really liked it, it is reasonably accurate.

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I've had my 4.3" desire HD for 1.5 years now and I still think it's somewhat to big, I cannot possibly understand people who get something like the Galaxy note as your erryday smartphone.
Baggypants ?



Looking at the recent smartphone lineup I quite fancy the HTC One S.
Enough Oomph, a good cam(amazing for lolHTC standards), not too expensive.
Battery should be quite ok considering the display size.

[NoirAvlaa]

SHould I get a One X now or wait for a Galaxy S3? I seriously cannot decide :S

[Aea]

SHould I get a One X now or wait for a Galaxy S3? I seriously cannot decide :S

One X is some serious sex AFAIK. I haven't had a chance to be hands on yet though.

[NoirAvlaa]

SHould I get a One X now or wait for a Galaxy S3? I seriously cannot decide :S

One X is some serious sex AFAIK. I haven't had a chance to be hands on yet though.

Yeah I just read the digital foundry on it... Looks p. amazing. But the S3 is out in ~2 months I think, not sure if it'll be worth waiting 2 months for the S3 which will be better, but probably by a tiny amount that it won't actually matter...

[Jags]

Just opened One X , its HUGE but fuckin awesome so far. May post pics later but too busy playing with it.

[Sparq]

As for getting multiple devices, that's about the silliest idea I've ever heard.

Personally I think putting a device that is 6" across up to your head to make a phone call is pretty silly but it comes down to what people want. I can see the appeal of the note, but personally im going for a 3" phone (my legend) and a 7" tablet so I get the best of both worlds.I assume the Note has Bluetooth? What comes next should be obvious, if it does.

[Lana Torrin]

As for getting multiple devices, that's about the silliest idea I've ever heard.

Personally I think putting a device that is 6" across up to your head to make a phone call is pretty silly but it comes down to what people want. I can see the appeal of the note, but personally im going for a 3" phone (my legend) and a 7" tablet so I get the best of both worlds.I assume the Note has Bluetooth? What comes next should be obvious, if it does.

Wearing a bluetooth headset all day and looking like a complete prick? I can see how thats a great alternitave..

[NoirAvlaa]

SHould I get a One X now or wait for a Galaxy S3? I seriously cannot decide :S

One X is some serious sex AFAIK. I haven't had a chance to be hands on yet though.

Yeah I just read the digital foundry on it... Looks p. amazing. But the S3 is out in ~2 months I think, not sure if it'll be worth waiting 2 months for the S3 which will be better, but probably by a tiny amount that it won't actually matter...

More: The Lumia 900 is also out in a few weeks. I think I might wait to see the price on that and then decide between the Lumia and the One X....

[Lana Torrin]

SHould I get a One X now or wait for a Galaxy S3? I seriously cannot decide :S

One X is some serious sex AFAIK. I haven't had a chance to be hands on yet though.

Yeah I just read the digital foundry on it... Looks p. amazing. But the S3 is out in ~2 months I think, not sure if it'll be worth waiting 2 months for the S3 which will be better, but probably by a tiny amount that it won't actually matter...

More: The Lumia 900 is also out in a few weeks. I think I might wait to see the price on that and then decide between the Lumia and the One X....

Except no one cares about windows phones..... or nokia.... (Thats not to say they arent good, just no one seems to give a crap about them since microsoft has had what, a dozen chances at smarphones and consistantly screwed them up)

[Waagaa]

SHould I get a One X now or wait for a Galaxy S3? I seriously cannot decide :S

One X is some serious sex AFAIK. I haven't had a chance to be hands on yet though.

Yeah I just read the digital foundry on it... Looks p. amazing. But the S3 is out in ~2 months I think, not sure if it'll be worth waiting 2 months for the S3 which will be better, but probably by a tiny amount that it won't actually matter...

More: The Lumia 900 is also out in a few weeks. I think I might wait to see the price on that and then decide between the Lumia and the One X....

Except no one cares about windows phones..... or nokia.... (Thats not to say they arent good, just no one seems to give a crap about them since microsoft has had what, a dozen chances at smarphones and consistantly screwed them up)

Windows Phone 8 is actually done very well and blows iOS away. Anyways.
HTC One X is awesome. I was about to give up on HTC after my HTC Desire and it's silly memory-configuration, but this thing just kicks ass. :)

[Archer]

As for getting multiple devices, that's about the silliest idea I've ever heard.

Personally I think putting a device that is 6" across up to your head to make a phone call is pretty silly but it comes down to what people want. I can see the appeal of the note, but personally im going for a 3" phone (my legend) and a 7" tablet so I get the best of both worlds.I assume the Note has Bluetooth? What comes next should be obvious, if it does.

Wearing a bluetooth headset all day and looking like a complete prick? I can see how thats a great alternitave..

This just in: you can remove it when not talking to someone. Or do you keep your phone taped to your ear at all times in case you'd get a call?

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[balistic void]

My bluetooth headset looks just like normal in-ear buds. Microphone is in the pendant section, not obvious. Does not make me look like a bouncer/secret service.

[Stoffl]

SHould I get a One X now or wait for a Galaxy S3? I seriously cannot decide :S

One X is some serious sex AFAIK. I haven't had a chance to be hands on yet though.

Yeah I just read the digital foundry on it... Looks p. amazing. But the S3 is out in ~2 months I think, not sure if it'll be worth waiting 2 months for the S3 which will be better, but probably by a tiny amount that it won't actually matter...

More: The Lumia 900 is also out in a few weeks. I think I might wait to see the price on that and then decide between the Lumia and the One X....

And it's allready broken.

Upside of this: If you buy a broken lumia 900 now you'll get a 100$ voucher from AT&T for your 99$ phone and basically get a "free" smartphone.
SW Update to fix the issue is scheduled for 16. april.

[Stoffl]

Also trololol comparing the Lumia 900 to HTC One X.

[Hast]

I saw a galaxy note in the office today. Then I lolled. That's not a fucking phone.

[NoirAvlaa]

Also trololol comparing the Lumia 900 to HTC One X.

Why? I like the look of the Windows OS and after looking at the marketplace it seems to have everything I want out of a smartphone. Windows OS is a valid option for me.

[Aramendel]

Why? I like the look of the Windows OS and after looking at the marketplace it seems to have everything I want out of a smartphone. Windows OS is a valid option for me.

https://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/demotivational-posters-history.jpg

[Aea]

Why? I like the look of the Windows OS and after looking at the marketplace it seems to have everything I want out of a smartphone. Windows OS is a valid option for me.

https://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/demotivational-posters-history.jpg

Metro is quite nice though.

[Frug]

And android ICS has a few elements (if you star contacts) that will give you a metro look on the screen.

[Liare]

metro is not a problem on a phone, or a touchpad.

the rage is about putting it on the desktop where it does not fucking belong. :)

[Navigator Six]

metro is not a problem on a phone, or a touchpad.

the rage is about putting it on the desktop where it does not fucking belong. :)

I suspect nobody will use the Metro start screen on desktops. Tablets, on the other hand...

Also, +1 for WP7. 8-) Although if you're in the US, the reviews of the Lumia 900 read exactly like the reviews of older iPhones: "a great device, except it's on AT&T."

[Stoffl]

Also trololol comparing the Lumia 900 to HTC One X.

Why? I like the look of the Windows OS and after looking at the marketplace it seems to have everything I want out of a smartphone. Windows OS is a valid option for me.

I was talking about the hardware meight.

[Stoffl]

metro is not a problem on a phone, or a touchpad.

the rage is about putting it on the desktop where it does not fucking belong. :)

An on Windows Server(srsly)

[Rudolf Miller]

metro is not a problem on a phone, or a touchpad.

the rage is about putting it on the desktop where it does not fucking belong. :)

I suspect nobody will use the Metro start screen on desktops. Tablets, on the other hand...

Also, +1 for WP7. 8-) Although if you're in the US, the reviews of the Lumia 900 read exactly like the reviews of older iPhones: "a great device, except it's on AT&T."

I actually have not read that it's a great device, and considering they've already had to patch a major bug in the data connections suggests that despite their ad campaign, the Lumia 900 is as much a beta device as anything else.

Not bashing the OS honestly, I would recommend it for my computer derpity parents because of it's simplicity.

[Wrack]

I'm thinking of buying an HTC Explorer for my first smartphone (yup, I'm a late adopter, also poor). I like that it's smaller and lighter, not one of these 65+ mm wide monstrosities they're coming out with these days (I'm looking at you, Galaxy series), and it's pretty affordable at $160 unlocked (http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Explorer-Unlocked-Android-Smartphone/dp/B005JC48OS). Any thoughts on that phone?

Another option: HTC Wildfire S. A little more expensive, with a slightly better camera and slightly slower processor, not sure what else is different about it.

[elmicker]

I'd go for the wildfire S if those are your only two options. The 90mb onboard storage on the Explorer is going to be a right pain in the arse no matter how big an SD card you get - it's the one thing that still annoys me about my desire.

[Wrack]

I'm not dead set on those 2, if you know of any other affordable smaller-sized phones. I also looked at:

HTC mytouch 3G (also very cheap but runs older android 1.5, don't know if that's a big deal or not)
HTC legend (not bad, a little ugly in its shape)
Samsung Galaxy Y (only a 240x320 screen)
Samsung Galaxy Mini (240x320 screen again)
Samsung Galaxy Mini 2 (on the expensive side, ~$250)
Sony Ericsson Live (another not bad option, I guess)

What's the problem with small internal storage? What can't you put on the SD card?

[Pattern]

Sup

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[Aramendel]

Sup

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Showoff.

[ufk]

I'm not dead set on those 2, if you know of any other affordable smaller-sized phones. I also looked at:

HTC mytouch 3G (also very cheap but runs older android 1.5, don't know if that's a big deal or not)
HTC legend (not bad, a little ugly in its shape)
Samsung Galaxy Y (only a 240x320 screen)
Samsung Galaxy Mini (240x320 screen again)
Samsung Galaxy Mini 2 (on the expensive side, ~$250)
Sony Ericsson Live (another not bad option, I guess)

What's the problem with small internal storage? What can't you put on the SD card?

Legend may be a little weird in its shape but that aluminium chassis is as tough as old boots, relatively easy to root and runs Gingerbread with no problems, I'm still waiting for ICS to be ported to it though.

I've looked at the Galaxy range and the only ones worth having are the S2 and the nexus imho, the others have diddy little screens.

Sony=pony (http://pony.urbanup.com/92721), nuff said.

[Pattern]

Sup

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Showoff.

Yep.

Swype comes with HTC sense 4... Swoons.

ICS is still a mess UX wise and the phone is too big to type one handed well but its the first one to get me excited since the last iPhone.

Still figuring shit out but will report more soon.

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[Pattern]

Also don't get the note, you will look like a jackass if you ever happened to make calls with it.

That, and it has a shitty low res screen.

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[Pattern]

If you own a HTC One X, this should be relevent to your interests:
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-software-mod-grants-up-to-20-better-battery-20120413/

Yes, battery life is terrible, but then again i'm coming from iphone land so I don't know how 7 hours of active use compares to other devices.

[Brullig]

Why? I like the look of the Windows OS and after looking at the marketplace it seems to have everything I want out of a smartphone. Windows OS is a valid option for me.

https://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/demotivational-posters-history.jpg

p.sure AOL was p.successful in the late 90s -- and continues to make multi-billion dollar revenue today.

[elmicker]

aol lost three quarters of a billion dollars in 2010. i know it's fashionable to be an unprofitable company but that's taking it a bit far. they had to sell most of their patent portfolio to MS last week to shore up their accounts.

[Aea]

aol lost three quarters of a billion dollars in 2010. i know it's fashionable to be an unprofitable company but that's taking it a bit far. they had to sell most of their patent portfolio to MS last week to shore up their accounts.

Whatever, it's hard to ignore their legacy and importance in the early days.

[Brullig]

aol lost three quarters of a billion dollars in 2010. i know it's fashionable to be an unprofitable company but that's taking it a bit far. they had to sell most of their patent portfolio to MS last week to shore up their accounts.

And so it comes full circle...the real reason Microsoft wanted their patents was to gain exclusive access to the 1996 AOL Kids Only sekrets to finish polishing Metro.

[Pattern]

Also, solution to a problem I've been having:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590956

[Takon Orlani]

Just got a hero s. Big improvement over the desire.

Now the question is how the suck do I root my desire for fun?

[Aramendel]

S3 getting shown on May 3rd. Curious if it will have anything to justify the hype or not.

[Rudolf Miller]

S3 getting shown on May 3rd. Curious if it will have anything to justify the hype or not.

It
fucking
better

I am pissed off to know end the rumor mill approach Samsung is using to emulate Apple. Just tell me what to expect already.

[Frug]

Just tell me what to expect already.

A phone.

[Rudolf Miller]

Just tell me what to expect already.

A phone.

http://www.myfacewhen.com/images/243.jpg

thank you captain obvious

[Stoffl]

broke the gps antenna on my desire HD like a derp

FFFFFFFF

[Navigator Six]

One of my coworkers just got an HTC One S, and it's pretty awesome. It feels amazingly solid, and the "microarc oxidation" crap they applied to the metal bits gives it a great texture. Launching the camera and taking pictures was mind-bogglingly fast too, and they looked pretty decent.

On the downside, I can't figure out why HTC went for hardware buttons with ICS. Additionally, all the antennas are actually on the inside of the SIM / microSD cover, so if you don't attach it correctly (as my coworker did once) your reception goes to shit.

[Navigator Six]

One of my coworkers just got an HTC One S, and it's pretty awesome. It feels amazingly solid, and the "microarc oxidation" crap they applied to the metal bits gives it a great texture. Launching the camera and taking pictures was mind-bogglingly fast too, and they looked pretty decent.

On the downside, I can't figure out why HTC went for hardware buttons with ICS. Additionally, all the antennas are actually on the inside of the SIM / microSD cover, so if you don't attach it correctly (as my coworker did once) your reception goes to shit.

[Helen]

Wheee double posting fun.

Stoffl I'm unsure how you managed to break the gps antenna on a desire hd.

[Pattern]

So I've been using the HTC One X for a few days and as some of you are iPhone users, you might be interested to hear what I have to say about it.

Sense 4 is actually pretty good. I wouldn't say it's better or worse than ICS - the bloat is gone, the weather, browser and mail apps are better than standard ones (although location isn't, whilst chrome beta is as buggy as fuck.) The keyboard takes a fucking long time to get used to, the return and backspace keys are too close together and look too similar - however swype is fucking awesome, and using it without cydia was one of the reasons for considering android. You will, like I did, spend several hours getting the app screen to feel more like an iphone (to those who might switch from one that is) but it's possible.

Bugs. There are quite a few, from the fuzzy browser and camera screen bug, to a universal issue with Tegra 3 performance, lack of sync manager (while standard HTC sync just doesn't seem to want to work - currently using double twist instead) and certain apps not refreshing/syncing properly. I'm kinda waiting on an OTA update, the promptness of which (or lack of) will go a long way to determine whether I'll exercise my 14 day returns policy (more on principle)

The screen is both jekyll and hyde. It's the best screen I've ever seen on any device, the size and brightness makes it by far, better than the iPhone and it was almost all the reason I needed to buy the phone. HOWEVER, on medium brightness, you will get 3 hours (not including standby) worth of usage before your battery dies. I've had to disable auto-adjust brightness and reduce the display brightness all the way down to 0% to get performance similar to what I'm used to - but I suppose, even then it's still pretty good. Although I hope this can be improved by OTA's, I don't expect this to get much better.

The design of the phone was the other main reason I decided to get it. It's slim and light, although the thinness and the cermaic feel of the One S did peak my interest, the screen wasn't what I wanted, and apparently it's prone to cracking (/ironic giggles).
It feels thinner than the iphone 4, however the adjustment kinda went like this:
WTF? BUT I DO HAVE BIG HANDS!? > Continues to insist on using only one hand for everything... Gets onset of RSI > FUUUUUUU I NEED TWO HANDS FOR SOME THINGS > gets used to using two hands sometimes...
With the iphone 4, you could wrap your hand around it and have fingers on the on button, volume buttons and switch all at once. With the one x, it feels like HTC decided that it was too big to have buttons in sensible places and just went aw-fuck it. It's not completely terrible, but it does make you feel they could have done better.

Beyond that, some apps have a strange *hick town* quality to them. In some cases it's was the exact same app, in others, analogues, that just looked a little rough around the edges. However, beyond a few games and :London: related apps, there wasn't anything I couldn't find on the play store. Oh, did I mention that chrome beta is really fucking beta?

I bought the phone in hope more than expectation and in many cases it exceeded hopes, but frustratingly, I'm not sure I can see myself with it for the long haul, especially if there's no improvement with battery life.

[Lana Torrin]

Workmate was showing off their note. I take back what I said its not huge when making calls.

[Pattern]

In other news:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/17/2956439/windows-phone-8-apollo-no-upgrade

If this is true, MS can well and truly fuck off.

[Spawinte]

I'm not sure how manufacturer OTA updates work because I've never had to wait for one. Pattern exactly which version of ICS are you on? (4.0 / 4.03 or whatever) Is it a full update you're waiting for or just small patches from HTC to fix the problems. Sorry to bug you but I'm very interested in that phone as I'm due and upgrade in a couple of months.

[Pattern]

I'm not sure how manufacturer OTA updates work because I've never had to wait for one. Pattern exactly which version of ICS are you on? (4.0 / 4.03 or whatever) Is it a full update you're waiting for or just small patches from HTC to fix the problems. Sorry to bug you but I'm very interested in that phone as I'm due and upgrade in a couple of months.

Basically, this patch:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26703-new-one-x-ota-to-significantly-improve-battery

But that was a few weeks ago.

[Stoffl]

Wheee double posting fun.

Stoffl I'm unsure how you managed to break the gps antenna on a desire hd.

Being bored and trying to HURRRIMPROVEDURR the antenna(the thingie on the top left with led flash)
The contact between the springs on the PCB and the gold paint traces on the antenna cover is notoriously bad, my old HTC Magic has much better GPS reception.
It was working though.

Afterwards, not so much. :D

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101066


It's ok though, I've fixed it temporarily with aluminium foil and ordered a new antenna cover from ebay for 10€.

[Aramendel]

Basically, this patch:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26703-new-one-x-ota-to-significantly-improve-battery

But that was a few weeks ago.

Seems there has been another patch today.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/18/htc-one-x-gets-software-update-minor-fixes-reported/

[Hast]

So I've been using the HTC One X for a few days and as some of you are iPhone users, you might be interested to hear what I have to say about it.

Sense 4 is actually pretty good. I wouldn't say it's better or worse than ICS - the bloat is gone, the weather, browser and mail apps are better than standard ones (although location isn't, whilst chrome beta is as buggy as fuck.) The keyboard takes a fucking long time to get used to, the return and backspace keys are too close together and look too similar - however swype is fucking awesome, and using it without cydia was one of the reasons for considering android. You will, like I did, spend several hours getting the app screen to feel more like an iphone (to those who might switch from one that is) but it's possible.

Bugs. There are quite a few, from the fuzzy browser and camera screen bug, to a universal issue with Tegra 3 performance, lack of sync manager (while standard HTC sync just doesn't seem to want to work - currently using double twist instead) and certain apps not refreshing/syncing properly. I'm kinda waiting on an OTA update, the promptness of which (or lack of) will go a long way to determine whether I'll exercise my 14 day returns policy (more on principle)

The screen is both jekyll and hyde. It's the best screen I've ever seen on any device, the size and brightness makes it by far, better than the iPhone and it was almost all the reason I needed to buy the phone. HOWEVER, on medium brightness, you will get 3 hours (not including standby) worth of usage before your battery dies. I've had to disable auto-adjust brightness and reduce the display brightness all the way down to 0% to get performance similar to what I'm used to - but I suppose, even then it's still pretty good. Although I hope this can be improved by OTA's, I don't expect this to get much better.

The design of the phone was the other main reason I decided to get it. It's slim and light, although the thinness and the cermaic feel of the One S did peak my interest, the screen wasn't what I wanted, and apparently it's prone to cracking (/ironic giggles).
It feels thinner than the iphone 4, however the adjustment kinda went like this:
WTF? BUT I DO HAVE BIG HANDS!? > Continues to insist on using only one hand for everything... Gets onset of RSI > FUUUUUUU I NEED TWO HANDS FOR SOME THINGS > gets used to using two hands sometimes...
With the iphone 4, you could wrap your hand around it and have fingers on the on button, volume buttons and switch all at once. With the one x, it feels like HTC decided that it was too big to have buttons in sensible places and just went aw-fuck it. It's not completely terrible, but it does make you feel they could have done better.

Beyond that, some apps have a strange *hick town* quality to them. In some cases it's was the exact same app, in others, analogues, that just looked a little rough around the edges. However, beyond a few games and :London: related apps, there wasn't anything I couldn't find on the play store. Oh, did I mention that chrome beta is really fucking beta?

I bought the phone in hope more than expectation and in many cases it exceeded hopes, but frustratingly, I'm not sure I can see myself with it for the long haul, especially if there's no improvement with battery life.

Swiftkey keyboard. Try it, it is really good.

What bugs? I have been using chrome browser on my ICS Galaxy II and it has been really really stable. Same on my Asus Transformer tablet, although it has been a bit slower there.

[Pattern]

Lots of flickering when zooming in and out, sometimes the menu bar would competely disappear with no way to get it back beyond restarting the browser. Or it would just go grey, no idea what the problem is. Since, I've actually gotten quite fond of the stock browser so I'll probably wait till release before trying chrome again.


Still waiting on the carrier to push the update, maybe tomorrow, though they say the battery life hasn't been much improved.

[Stoffl]

I'm not sure how manufacturer OTA updates work because I've never had to wait for one. Pattern exactly which version of ICS are you on? (4.0 / 4.03 or whatever) Is it a full update you're waiting for or just small patches from HTC to fix the problems. Sorry to bug you but I'm very interested in that phone as I'm due and upgrade in a couple of months.

Manufacturer releases OTA update, unbranded phones get it immediately.

If you bought your phone from a mobile carrier through a contract it's most likely branded and the carrier has to "adapt" the OTA which usually takes anywhere between 1 and 12 months.

[Aramendel]

I wouldn't have too high hopes of the HTCs battery life improving considerably.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/19/2960922/htc-customers-prefer-thin-phones-to-better-battery-life

In other news, so far the most convincing S3 leak:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/20/galaxy-s-iii-leak/

(Note: likely not the final design, it's one of the demo units with a fake shell)

[balistic void]

I'm not sure how manufacturer OTA updates work because I've never had to wait for one. Pattern exactly which version of ICS are you on? (4.0 / 4.03 or whatever) Is it a full update you're waiting for or just small patches from HTC to fix the problems. Sorry to bug you but I'm very interested in that phone as I'm due and upgrade in a couple of months.

Manufacturer releases OTA update, unbranded phones get it immediately.

If you bought your phone from a mobile carrier through a contract it's most likely branded and the carrier has to "adapt" the OTA which usually takes anywhere between 1 and 12 months.

Not entirely correct. Samsung withheld the unbranded OTA ICS update for the SGS2 here until networks in Ireland+UK had verified it. Load of rubbish really. The roms have been there on www.samfirmware.com for months, but are only appearing OTA now.

[Pattern]

I wouldn't have too high hopes of the HTCs battery life improving considerably.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/19/2960922/htc-customers-prefer-thin-phones-to-better-battery-life

On standby with minimal use, the phone lasts about 4 days. Browsing the internet with screen set to medium brightness, it lasts 3 hours. :wat:

I too doubt software can improve this much given that 70% of the power drain comes from screen illumination.

Also, still no OTA for me. Should I install custom rom? :ohnoes:

[noobcake]

I wouldn't have too high hopes of the HTCs battery life improving considerably.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/19/2960922/htc-customers-prefer-thin-phones-to-better-battery-life

On standby with minimal use, the phone lasts about 4 days. Browsing the internet with screen set to medium brightness, it lasts 3 hours. :wat:

I too doubt software can improve this much given that 70% of the power drain comes from screen illumination.




:facepalm:

[Jags]

Not had any issues with my One X so far , no screen flickering and the battery seems to last longer than my Desire ever did. Currently at 2 days without charge with moderate use (3 calls in , 2 out and about 30 texts plus some web browsing) and sitting at 57%. Even under heavy use when im travelling to work (music and browsing) the lowest it has been at the end of the day is about 40%.

Maybe im just lucky , but I also went in and disabled all the Vodafone "features" and stopped auto updating of things like Farcebook and Twatter

[Aea]

Not had any issues with my One X so far , no screen flickering and the battery seems to last longer than my Desire ever did. Currently at 2 days without charge with moderate use (3 calls in , 2 out and about 30 texts plus some web browsing) and sitting at 57%. Even under heavy use when im travelling to work (music and browsing) the lowest it has been at the end of the day is about 40%.

Maybe im just lucky , but I also went in and disabled all the Vodafone "features" and stopped auto updating of things like Farcebook and Twatter

Just re-iterating that it's not a great idea for battery life to let your phone completely drain, charge every evening and you'll have that amazing battery life for when you need it *.

* this is of course coming from the person who lets his phone run low all the damn time.

[Aramendel]

Yes, but as he said its still at over 50%. That's still a fair amount from "completely drained".

You could of course maximize the longevity of your battery by charging it as often as possible, even if it just lost 5%, but that's a bit counterproductive. It would be like saving every penny you could possibly spare and as result living near the poverty line in order to avoid running out of money later and being poor.

[Lana Torrin]

Yes, but as he said its still at over 50%. That's still a fair amount from "completely drained".

You could of course maximize the longevity of your battery by charging it as often as possible, even if it just lost 5%, but that's a bit counterproductive. It would be like saving every penny you could possibly spare and as result living near the poverty line in order to avoid running out of money later and being poor.

It also doesn't fit the facts.. You get the most number of charge cycles by on draining it by say 5% and then charging, but as you only get 1/10th the run time of draining it by 50% and then recharging you would need 10 times the number of charge cycles to get the same about of usable time, and you don't, you get about 5 times as many..

I think the best level to recharge based on actual run time from your battery is still somewhere between the 50% and 30% mark..

[Aea]

Yes, but as he said its still at over 50%. That's still a fair amount from "completely drained".

You could of course maximize the longevity of your battery by charging it as often as possible, even if it just lost 5%, but that's a bit counterproductive. It would be like saving every penny you could possibly spare and as result living near the poverty line in order to avoid running out of money later and being poor.

It also doesn't fit the facts.. You get the most number of charge cycles by on draining it by say 5% and then charging, but as you only get 1/10th the run time of draining it by 50% and then recharging you would need 10 times the number of charge cycles to get the same about of usable time, and you don't, you get about 5 times as many..

I think the best level to recharge based on actual run time from your battery is still somewhere between the 50% and 30% mark..

The relationship is not quite as linear as that. Recharging 50% might give you 1000 cycles, but recharging 100% might only give you 400 cycles. It is strongly recommended that you don't discharge an lithium ion all the way (or past half) as much as possible.

[Lana Torrin]

Yes, but as he said its still at over 50%. That's still a fair amount from "completely drained".

You could of course maximize the longevity of your battery by charging it as often as possible, even if it just lost 5%, but that's a bit counterproductive. It would be like saving every penny you could possibly spare and as result living near the poverty line in order to avoid running out of money later and being poor.

It also doesn't fit the facts.. You get the most number of charge cycles by on draining it by say 5% and then charging, but as you only get 1/10th the run time of draining it by 50% and then recharging you would need 10 times the number of charge cycles to get the same about of usable time, and you don't, you get about 5 times as many..

I think the best level to recharge based on actual run time from your battery is still somewhere between the 50% and 30% mark..

The relationship is not quite as linear as that. Recharging 50% might give you 1000 cycles, but recharging 100% might only give you 400 cycles. It is strongly recommended that you don't discharge an lithium ion all the way (or past half) as much as possible.

Absolutely, im just getting pissed at people that quote the stats that you get more charge cycles out of it at almost no discharge so thats GOT to be better! Thats why I said I believe the optimal recharge point in somewhere between 50% and 30% battery left (obviously depending on the battery and application).

[Jags]

It got to 30% this morning and its back on teh charger as I need it all day today. Still waiting on Vodafone ot release the updated firmware as well... fuckin idiots take forever to do anything as they want their branding all over it.

As soon as a proper fix and vanilla HTC ROM is out im all over rooting this thing like my Deisre was previously.

[Aramendel]

Absolutely, im just getting pissed at people that quote the stats that you get more charge cycles out of it at almost no discharge so thats GOT to be better! Thats why I said I believe the optimal recharge point in somewhere between 50% and 30% battery left (obviously depending on the battery and application).

Yes and no.

You shouldn't constantly charge it from 85% to 95%. However it is better to charge it 6 times from 50% to 60% than charge it once from 35% to 95%. From a "maximizing time till battery breaks" viewpoint. It is of course not practical to charge it that way.

[Pattern]

http://www.tgeltaayehxnx.com/

[Aramendel]

http://www.tgeltaayehxnx.com/

*Baaahhh* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8NnVU8R6mAU)

[Serious Bob]

I hate this lifestyle marketing shit with phones.

[Rudolf Miller]

http://www.tgeltaayehxnx.com/

*Baaahhh* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8NnVU8R6mAU)

dafuq.. thenextgalaxy.com re-routes to samsungs youtube page

lazy fuckers

also, considering the SGS3 stands a chance at being the single highest selling android phone ever, to say that it will stand out from everyone else is kinda backward

[Frug]

The relationship is not quite as linear as that. Recharging 50% might give you 1000 cycles, but recharging 100% might only give you 400 cycles. It is strongly recommended that you don't discharge an lithium ion all the way (or past half) as much as possible.

I was taught, long ago, that you should discharge a battery totally and so I did this with my phone on a regular basis. I've had the thing for about a year now (nexus s) and can say that the battery life has gone down a bit, though this may be due to the new android ICS so it's hard to tell. It used to last about 3 days on a charge, now a day and a half... So I guess that's more than just a bit. :|

note: I keep the sync and gps on all the time.

[elmicker]

Unless your phone is from the early 90s and is rocking a NiMH battery, you should nevereververververververver discharge it completely.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

read, learn, preach

[Helen]

Unless your phone is from the early 90s and is rocking a NiMH battery, you should nevereververververververver discharge it completely.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

read, learn, preach

Fuck off that's a wall'o'text.

[Cool09]

Still using my nexus one. It does what I need it to do, though the flash card I have in it is dying, which means I randomly lose pictures and music. Instead of just upgrading the flash card I was thinking of just getting a new phone. Also 3g is now old.

Looking hard at the Galaxy Nexus... I really liked the nexus one for the fact that it got OTA updates immediately (unbranded, bought from google). From what I've read the galaxy nexus has a great screen, meh styling, meh battery life, but of course the excellent updates. Still seem like a good choice?

[Frug]

Unless your phone is from the early 90s and is rocking a NiMH battery, you should nevereververververververver discharge it completely.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

read, learn, preach

Fuck off that's a wall'o'text.
Yeah, no. How about I not read that and also not run the battery dry.

[SteeleResolve]

Still loving my HTC HD7 wp7 (dev unlocked with 10 homebrew app limit - nokia drive being one of the 8) )

[Aea]

Just bought a Galaxy Nexus w/ Google's no-contract sale.

[Cool09]

Just bought a Galaxy Nexus w/ Google's no-contract sale.

Let me know how you like it, I'm considering buying one soon.

[Helen]

Still using my HTC Desire HD, battery life is still excellent after an app purge a few weeks back and I figure I'll see what's available around December when I get an upgrade.

[Pattern]

Updated chrome, using that as main browser. No OTA for me yet, although by usage patterns have settled down to something approaching normal.
http://i.imgur.com/HJjUU.png

[Aea]

Just bought a Galaxy Nexus w/ Google's no-contract sale.

Let me know how you like it, I'm considering buying one soon.

I've used one before. It's a bit large, camera is nice, buying because it's a Nexus w/ ICS and cheaper / better then the One S IMHO.

[Lorkin Desal]

Non-removable battery and non-upgradeable user storage.

I really, really would like a better powered ICS version of my Desire Z. This phone has done me brilliantly and has all the features I want, including a FUCKING REAL KEYBOARD.

I too have a Desire Z, I think the only time I've opened the battery compartment was whenever I dropped my phone spilling the battery, cover, and sometimes the SIM card all over the floor. Otherwise I've never, ever, EVER had a phone that I wanted to have a removable battery on. It was always more of a PITA then any sort of desirable feature.

No SD Card, well that kinda sucks, but 32GB is quite generous. I wish that Android could handle having no SD Card better though, instead of pretending one exists on the /sdcard partition. No SD Card phones are the future I would think.

I also have a desire Z

[Aramendel]

I've used one before. It's a bit large, camera is nice, buying because it's a Nexus w/ ICS and cheaper / better then the One S IMHO.

The Galaxy Nexus is on the German Amazon site actually cheaper than the Galaxy S2, kinda surprised me.

[Pattern]

http://www.tgeltaayehxnx.com/

*Baaahhh* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8NnVU8R6mAU)

dafuq.. thenextgalaxy.com re-routes to samsungs youtube page

lazy fuckers

also, considering the SGS3 stands a chance at being the single highest selling android phone ever, to say that it will stand out from everyone else is kinda backward
Speaking of which:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/27/2979671/samsung-biggest-phone-maker-93-5-million

[Waagaa]

Have had my Htc One X for 3 days now and it rocks! Super-spiffy camera, quad core is super fast, can have lots of stuff running without "screen lag". Screen is huge but not too big. Can vouch for it. :)

[blaad]

I just got Sony Xperia Neo V today. I have no clue what I am doing, but it looks nice and has Angry Birds installed so it's ok.

[Aea]

Just bought a Galaxy Nexus w/ Google's no-contract sale.

Let me know how you like it, I'm considering buying one soon.

I've used one before. It's a bit large, camera is nice, buying because it's a Nexus w/ ICS and cheaper / better then the One S IMHO.

Confirming that ownership is as awesome as use. Very snappy, going to root sometime this evening.

[VladCetes]

Finally bought a smartphone, its a Motorola Droid Razr X. Am absolutely loving it. App recommendations?

[Stoffl]

Just installed an ICS rom on my desire hd, pretty sleek so far. Curious about the battery life.

[Mortvvs]

Been using ICS (cyanogenmod 9) on my Galaxy S for months now, battery life improved compared to cm7 and it's faster than any rom i used before.

[Rudolf Miller]

SGS3 official reveal today.

*baited breath*

[Meths]

SGS3 official reveal today.

*baited breath*

Yeah waiting to see if this any good otherwise will get the one x

[Pattern]

And behold.

The most repugnant TV commercial I have ever witnessed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lpLGb1WW8E

And lol at 4.8" pentile display. :facepalm:

[Rudolf Miller]

And behold.

The most repugnant TV commercial I have ever witnessed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lpLGb1WW8E

And lol at 4.8" pentile display. :facepalm:

holy fuck that was so pompous and terrible...

[Frug]

Watched it here at work with no sound.

Am probably lucky I didn't have sound. Holy fuck what a vomit inducing commercial.

Phone looks nice though?

[Rudolf Miller]

US version will be late as fuck due to LTE, rumor has it it'll also have a nerfed processor.

FML

still waiting for official specs

[Wrack]

Why are phones half a laptop lately?

[elmicker]

Some cool features:
The front camera performs eye-tracking, so that the phone doesn't ever switch off when you're looking at it (this is awesome)
The rear camera does the instant-shoot thing the galaxy nexus did, taking 8 shots and automatically selecting the best
It has built in induction charging
Samsung have shamelessly pinched Siri, but better, if this is your kind of thing
2100mAh non-replaceable battery but it does have an SD card slot (hooray)
Built in WiDi, compatible with all future samsung TVs, and samsung will be selling HDMI/WiDi dongles for older TVs.

If it wasn't so ridiculously ginormous it'd be right at the top of my list for when my contract's up in a few months.

[Pattern]

Phone looks nice though?

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/3923422/vs05-03_20-02-41x1020_gallery_post.jpg

*smug face*

[arian snow]

Wow, that is one creepy phone!

Looks great though, The display is huge I don't really know if I'm going to like that. Still going to stick to my good old Galaxy 1 till it breaks.

Btw. Does anyone know when a phone with 4G capability will come out in Europe?

[Aramendel]

US version will be late as fuck due to LTE, rumor has it it'll also have a nerfed processor.

Slide from the presentation says "USA in June".


2100mAh non-replaceable battery

Judging from the Engadget photos (http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-preview/) I am pretty sure it is a replaceable one.

[Meths]

Getting a One x now S3 is fugly as fuck

[elmicker]

Judging from the Engadget photos (http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-preview/) I am pretty sure it is a replaceable one.

I'm very happy to be wrong on this. I was basing it off a bit in the register article saying the battery was "built into the case". Excellent that it has a replaceable battery and an sd slot. Too many high end phones not coming with those features. If i'm willing to tolerate five inches of screen in my hand I'm quite happy to have another millimetre in thickness for a proper battery and memory card.

[Rans]

S3 kind of shits all over One X right now.

[Aramendel]

Getting a One x now S3 is fugly as fuck


S3 kind of shits all over One X right now.

Gogo fight!

I myself kinda like it - depending how well those shenanigans they did with the frontal camera and the accelerometer work. The screen only turning on (and staying on) if you look at it sounds very interesting. No accidental turning on of the phone anymore, no screen timing out while you wait for a reply or a website to load...
It's all a question of a) how well that recognition works and b) how much battery power it needs.

Will stay with my (non-Galaxy) Nexus S though, unless it breaks. Uups, it fell down. Clumsy me.

[El Capitano]

The face tracking and induction charging are nice, but that's a fucking huge phone!

[Rudolf Miller]

The face tracking and induction charging are nice, but that's a fucking huge phone!

size matters

[spm1138]

Why are phones half a laptop lately?

I like how Sony still make phone sized phones.

I think they have a replacement for the Xperia Ray in their new (non-ericson) lineup.

[Pattern]

Getting a One x now S3 is fugly as fuck


S3 kind of shits all over One X right now.

Gogo fight!


http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/4/2998464/how-samsung-broke-my-heart
:p

[Aramendel]

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/4/2998464/how-samsung-broke-my-heart

Some additional buthurt.

Honestly I do not really get why some people who found the S2 a major upgrade to the S are disappointed with the S3, it has a pretty similar boost compared to the S2 as the S2 had compared to the S.

The HTC One is similar, but the S3 has a few goodies compared to it - replaceable battery, inductive charging stand, better performance, very likely better battery life and those front camera and accellerometer software tricks.

[Pattern]

Honestly I do not really get why some people who found the S2 a major upgrade to the S are disappointed with the S3
Better battery is probably the only feature I'd be remotely interested in in that spec list you rattled off. The article has the answer to that question, specifically:

So what did we get? The Siri-imitating S Voice, a quad-core SoC that's already been announced for the Meizu MX, a suite of camera enhancements that rips off HTC's ImageSense wholesale, and a signature animated lock screen that emulates interaction with water, something that's been a live wallpaper option on Android phones since 2010. Oh, and industrial design and build quality that you'll find on any anonymous South Korean MP3 player — Samsung seems to have tried trickling its design language up, never a good idea.

We're told not to be sheep, yet Samsung itself is just falling in line with the herd.

[Aramendel]

Not really. He fires of some random reasons why he isn't impressed with the S3, but there are none, zero, zip, zilch arguments why the S2 was so much better than the S. So, no, it does not answer that question *at all*.

To compare:
What did we got with the S2 vs the S? Dualcore vs singlecore, more Ram and a very slightly improved display.
What do we get with the S3 vs the S2? Quadcore vs dualcore, HD-Display, inductive charging and the face tracking thing.

Basically a CPU with twice as many cores, some major boost compared to the last model and some minor feature(s).

[Pattern]

Not really. He fires of some random reasons why he isn't impressed with the S3, but there are none, zero, zip, zilch arguments why the S2 was so much better than the S. So, no, it does not answer that question *at all*.

To compare:
What did we got with the S2 vs the S? Dualcore vs singlecore, more Ram and a very slightly improved display.
What do we get with the S3 vs the S2? Quadcore vs dualcore, HD-Display, inductive charging and the face tracking thing.

Basically a CPU with twice as many cores, some major boost compared to the last model and some minor feature(s).

If your question is why are people dissapointed with the S3. It has little to do with how big the difference between S1 and S2 and all to do with the over inflated expectations Samsung generated for a product that is generally little different than it's peers.

[Meths]

Just been into carphone warehouse and had a play with the one x loved it , now gotta get me a deal.

[Aramendel]

If your question is why are people dissapointed with the S3. It has little to do with how big the difference between S1 and S2 and all to do with the over inflated expectations Samsung generated for a product that is generally little different than it's peers.

Oh, I get that. I just find it both amusing and irritating that some people who are disappointed with the S3 mention how great the S2 was when it was released. When in fact it wasn't really that much better than the S. Not more than the S3 is now compared to the S2 at least.

The S3 has with the One X a pretty strong competitor whereas the S2 didn't really had one, sure, but I do not see how that makes the S3 bad. The developement progress from the S over the S2 to the S3 is pretty linear. If one gets disappointed because Samsung isn't always significantly better than all rivals, but "just equal" to one I do not think the company is the one with the problem.
The S3 was hyped, but pretty much everything is nowadays. I've become so used to that that I automatically ignore it.

Samsungs moronic "inspired by nature, designed by humans" theme is a good example why WAY too much money is pushed into marketing these days, though.

[Pattern]

Just been into carphone warehouse and had a play with the one x loved it , now gotta get me a deal.
Neg repping O2 as they are now the last to have pushed through the 1.28 update. Rooting fone in 3... 2...

[Frug]

If your question is why are people dissapointed with the S3. It has little to do with how big the difference between S1 and S2 and all to do with the over inflated expectations Samsung generated for a product that is generally little different than it's peers.

Oh, I get that. I just find it both amusing and irritating that some people who are disappointed with the S3 mention how great the S2 was when it was released. When in fact it wasn't really that much better than the S. Not more than the S3 is now compared to the S2 at least.

The S3 has with the One X a pretty strong competitor whereas the S2 didn't really had one, sure, but I do not see how that makes the S3 bad. The developement progress from the S over the S2 to the S3 is pretty linear. If one gets disappointed because Samsung isn't always significantly better than all rivals, but "just equal" to one I do not think the company is the one with the problem.
The S3 was hyped, but pretty much everything is nowadays. I've become so used to that that I automatically ignore it.

Samsungs moronic "inspired by nature, designed by humans" theme is a good example why WAY too much money is pushed into marketing these days, though.

I find everything about this and people complaining that it isn't a cold fusion reactor because they were hyped up about a fucking phone to be :roll:

I like my smartphone, I enjoy browsing what's available, but some people need to be slapped.

[Frug]

If your question is why are people dissapointed with the S3. It has little to do with how big the difference between S1 and S2 and all to do with the over inflated expectations Samsung generated for a product that is generally little different than it's peers.

Oh, I get that. I just find it both amusing and irritating that some people who are disappointed with the S3 mention how great the S2 was when it was released. When in fact it wasn't really that much better than the S. Not more than the S3 is now compared to the S2 at least.

The S3 has with the One X a pretty strong competitor whereas the S2 didn't really had one, sure, but I do not see how that makes the S3 bad. The developement progress from the S over the S2 to the S3 is pretty linear. If one gets disappointed because Samsung isn't always significantly better than all rivals, but "just equal" to one I do not think the company is the one with the problem.
The S3 was hyped, but pretty much everything is nowadays. I've become so used to that that I automatically ignore it.

Samsungs moronic "inspired by nature, designed by humans" theme is a good example why WAY too much money is pushed into marketing these days, though.

I find everything about this and people complaining that it isn't a cold fusion reactor because they were hyped up about a fucking phone to be :roll:

I like my smartphone, I enjoy browsing what's available, but some people need to be slapped.

[Stoffl]

Just installed an ICS rom on my desire hd, pretty sleek so far. Curious about the battery life.

Couple days later and still happy with it, would recommend.
This is the ROM im using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962

[filingo]

i have a samsung galaxy ace in the post, will this be an upgrade over my nokia e63

[Fourfingers frankie]

Not really. He fires of some random reasons why he isn't impressed with the S3, but there are none, zero, zip, zilch arguments why the S2 was so much better than the S. So, no, it does not answer that question *at all*.

To compare:
What did we got with the S2 vs the S? Dualcore vs singlecore, more Ram and a very slightly improved display.
What do we get with the S3 vs the S2? Quadcore vs dualcore, HD-Display, inductive charging and the face tracking thing.

Basically a CPU with twice as many cores, some major boost compared to the last model and some minor feature(s).

If your question is why are people dissapointed with the S3. It has little to do with how big the difference between S1 and S2 and all to do with the over inflated expectations Samsung generated for a product that is generally little different than it's peers.

The SII wasn't even a step change. People spread their monkey love over it because the oversaturation on the screen looked sexy but it wasn't exactly ground breaking - it was just good in most every area. I'm hoping the SIII will be the same.

Also HTC havent made a high end phone that didn't look so bad i'd eat a bag of dicks rather than own one in a long time. Seriously FUCK htc.

[balistic void]

The original galaxy S was riddled with bugs (filesystem slowdown bug worst). The galaxy2 was relatively bug free in comparison, and had bigger shinier screen. Lots of improvements tbh, I can see why people were enthused. S3 has more competition tho, HTCs offering are looking good again.

Still got an s2, but there is nothing worth upgrading to really :D Think I got one app installed that actually uses the hardware (samurai showdown).

[filingo]

my android phone is better than the nokia was

thank you fhc (zekk)

[filingo]

my android phone is better than the nokia was

thank you fhc (zekk)

[M'buku]

Massive reason I went with HTC again and got a One X is because it's one of only 3 phones on the market in the UK that supports DC-HSPA, yes not even the SIII supports it. So with Vodafone already having lit up most of their network, O2 lighting it as we speak and Everything Everywhere lighting it up soon I can say hello to 40Mbit mobile broadband tethering :)

[Rudolf Miller]

So the 4G LTE SGS3 is set to launch in June, but Jelly Bean (5.0) may be launching around Thanksgiving. Curse you upgrade cycle!!!

[Pattern]

In other news...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LxYgIK3pfko

[The Monkeysphere]

Hey guys, my ex is buying a new phone and wants a smaller-sized Android one. I'm still convinced that there are no good (or even decent) small smartphones, but could you guys prove me wrong or at least point me at the least shitty ones?

[Aramendel]

A fellow (female) student bought herself a Galaxy Ace a year ago and is quite happy with it. Not really the newest phone nowadays of course.

[elmicker]

Hey guys, my ex is buying a new phone and wants a smaller-sized Android one. I'm still convinced that there are no good (or even decent) small smartphones, but could you guys prove me wrong or at least point me at the least shitty ones?

Bought my mother and father a galaxy ace+ and galaxy w respectively and they're both rather nice phones. I've been looking for one for my girlfriend and she thinks even the 3.5" ones are too big (she's currently got a Wildfire), and honestly all the small android phones are shit.

[Rudolf Miller]

Verizon is going to force all who upgrade from 3G phones with unlimited data plans to 4G phones to get a capped data plan coming this summer.

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr35/XxTheReaperxX/EpicRage.png

[Aypse]

Verizon is going to force all who upgrade from 3G phones with unlimited data plans to 4G phones to get a capped data plan coming this summer.



Is there a source for confirmation of this? The rumor was that this was going down last year and all it took when I upgraded was to call up Verizon and request to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan. 10 minute phone call & done. I am 4G and unlimited.

[Rudolf Miller]

To clarify, this is how it works.

Upgrade at discounted price and signing 2 year contract -> you are forced to a capped data plan

Pay for a phone at full price -> keep grandfathered data plan

http://www.dailytech.com/Verizon+Wireless+to+Kill+Unlimited+LTE+Data+Even+f or+Grandfathered+Users/article24703.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/Quick+Note+Verizon+Wireless+Clarifies+Stance+on+Un limited+LTE+Data/article24720.htm

[Rudolf Miller]

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/25/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review/

S3 review, glowingly positive.

Still fucked here in the US

[Mythago]

Upgrade is due, however being a student I don't really want to spend too much money on a contract or pay a one off. I'm with O2 in the UK and I'm looking at the HTC One V and the Sony Xperia Arc S as two possibilities. The HTC runs Android 4, while the Sony is only Android 2.3 Anyone have experience with either? Or is it worth spending the £80 on the HTC One S?

Final question, with the Galaxy S III coming out in the next month or so, is the price of the Galaxy S II likely to drop (or is it worth the £80 one off payment?)? All the monthly payments for these contracts are the same.

[Phrixus Zephyr]

Just got an S3, first proper smart phone (SATIO was a piece of crap) and i've spent the last 4 hours re-arranging apps and widgets and setting up anti-theft GPS nonsense. Keeping me occupied if nothing else.

Any suggestions of apps or general pointers about Android in general are more than welcome.

fakeedit; I keep seeing Winamp on all the app suggestion pages, is Android's built in media centre not any good?

[Ted Breakers]

fakeedit; I keep seeing Winamp on all the app suggestion pages, is Android's built in media centre not any good?

Nope its shit. Doesnt even have a widget on the S2 anyway...

I use Power Amp, its very nice.

Other "Must have" apps for me are:

Astro File Manager
Aura (Evemon)
Dolphin Browser HD
Ebay (This is freaking awesome)
Pulse
Shazam
Skype
Tapatalk
Tesla LED
Widget Locker
Xabber

[Phrixus Zephyr]

The S3 has an widget for it, but i'll get something else if it's crap.

So i know how to move the Dolphin icon in place of the standard internet icon in the fixed bar. The problem is the icon name for Dolphin is really long, so what i end up with is instead of { ... 'Message' 'Internet' 'Applications' } i get { ... 'Message' 'Dolphin Br' 'Applications' }. I'd rather just keep the standard internet icon and label and just have it use Dolphin instead. How do i make it do this?

[Sparq]

Hmmm, I have a Galaxy S I. I was messaged this morning by my carrier to alert me to the fact the SIII is available to order and existing customers are waived the early upgrade fee.

I'm happy with my S I but the S III is pretty tempting. Though I'm not sure if I want to saddle myself with another 24 months of contract and be paying more per month than I am/was on my S I contract.

[ctrlchris]

fakeedit; I keep seeing Winamp on all the app suggestion pages, is Android's built in media centre not any good?

Nope its shit. Doesnt even have a widget on the S2 anyway...

I use Power Amp, its very nice.

Other "Must have" apps for me are:

Astro File Manager
Aura (Evemon)
Dolphin Browser HD
Ebay (This is freaking awesome)
Pulse
Shazam
Skype
Tapatalk
Tesla LED
Widget Locker
Xabber

I use winamp on my SII
Its pretty legit tbh.

The stock one made me mad for some reason.

[balistic void]

You only have "androids built-in media center" if you are using a Nexus device running stock-android. Otherwise you are using whatever Samsung/HTC bundled with their device. Samsung are bundling some itunes lookalike cloud service with the SGS3 I think.

Been using google music myself, but after a year on the market it still has some epic shortcomings. Most obviously: when you create/edit a playlist on your PC it does not get synced to the phone UNLESS you actually reinstall google music on phone. Bug has been open on their tracker for a year now...

[Aypse]

Just got an S3, first proper smart phone (SATIO was a piece of crap) and i've spent the last 4 hours re-arranging apps and widgets and setting up anti-theft GPS nonsense. Keeping me occupied if nothing else.

Any suggestions of apps or general pointers about Android in general are more than welcome.

fakeedit; I keep seeing Winamp on all the app suggestion pages, is Android's built in media centre not any good?

Titanium backup Pro, Amazon App Store (for the free app of the day...most are crap but occasional win), dropbox, go sms pro, swiftkey X

[Rudolf Miller]

Acquired Galaxy Nexus to dodge Verizons metered 4G. My 4G doesn't have amazing reception, but the difference between Android 2.3 w/Motoblur and 4.04 pure Google is night and day.

[Krugerrand]

So probably going to get my first smartphone within the next month. Would people suggest the S3 then, or if not what are probably the best alternatives?

[Cividari]

S3 and One X seem very similar although I personally think the One X looks much much better but that is really a minor thing.

[Aramendel]

The One X has a better design, the S3 better features and longer battery life (and a replaceable battery and an SD-Card slot).

A cheaper runner up would be the Galaxy Nexus. Should be at the very least 100$ cheaper and "good enough".

[Navigator Six]

A cheaper runner up would be the Galaxy Nexus. Should be at the very least 100$ cheaper and "good enough".

Plus you'll be able to get OS upgrades immediately and likely for the next coupla years, unlike the other two.

[Mortvvs]

A cheaper runner up would be the Galaxy Nexus. Should be at the very least 100$ cheaper and "good enough".

Plus you'll be able to get OS upgrades immediately and likely for the next coupla years, unlike the other two.

Thanks to community support you'll get updates for many years. I'm still using the Galaxy S, which has been abandoned by Samsung quite a while ago, and thanks to cyanogen i can even run ICS on it. People buying an Android phone and not using the many awesome and well developed after-market distributions made by communities like xda are just doing it wrong (imho).

As for Galaxy S3 vs One X, I'd go with the Galaxy S3 (fanboyism aside), it got a faster cpu (check benchmark comparisons), bigger battery, sd card and thanks to the hype it's going to sell better than the One X, which results in better community support/more roms/mods/kernels etc.

[Aramendel]

Plus you'll be able to get OS upgrades immediately and likely for the next coupla years, unlike the other two.

I would be careful with the "immediately" considering it took them half a year to get ICS on my normal non-Galaxy Nexus S.

[Navigator Six]

Plus you'll be able to get OS upgrades immediately and likely for the next coupla years, unlike the other two.

I would be careful with the "immediately" considering it took them half a year to get ICS on my normal non-Galaxy Nexus S.

Very true, but that's been the exception not the rule as I understand it.

[Fourfingers frankie]

Just got an S3, first proper smart phone (SATIO was a piece of crap) and i've spent the last 4 hours re-arranging apps and widgets and setting up anti-theft GPS nonsense. Keeping me occupied if nothing else.

Any suggestions of apps or general pointers about Android in general are more than welcome.

fakeedit; I keep seeing Winamp on all the app suggestion pages, is Android's built in media centre not any good?

Got an SIII myself (20.50 with T-Mobile) and flipboard is amazing on it. Even makes facebook look less like shit

[Devec]

Maybe a bit of a stupid question but other than probably being more efficient are smartphones really making good use of the multi-core architectures yet? In other words, do they really benefit from so much procession power?

On topic of guarding your phone, what is the best way to get some good protection on it in case you lose/get it stolen? At the moment I have nothing installed on my phone to protect it in case it goes missing so I'm thinking about getting some apps for it. However most apps for security seem to cost money so I'm not keen on buying something without being able to try it out and see if works the way I want it to. I'm guessing some kind of remote control and or tracking is what I'm looking for.

[Mortvvs]

Besides some games with shiny graphics and no gameplay, there aren't many apps that use multicore-cpus to a considerable degree (unless you like to run benchmarks and compare e-peens). App developers have to cover a wide variety of devices and specifications, so most of the processing power is wasted.
Good luck finding a useful solution to recover your stolen phone, because anything software related simply won't work and can be disabled within minutes, especially when it's an android device. In Germany some providers offer a phone insurance, but i'm not sure if that covers theft.

[elmicker]

doesn't really matter either way, the cores are gated. if they're not being used they get turned off.

[spm1138]

I'd add k9 email client to the list of good android software. Unless the built in email client got hugely better. Also swift key keyboard is really nice.

[Apoplexy]

On topic of guarding your phone, what is the best way to get some good protection on it in case you lose/get it stolen? At the moment I have nothing installed on my phone to protect it in case it goes missing so I'm thinking about getting some apps for it. However most apps for security seem to cost money so I'm not keen on buying something without being able to try it out and see if works the way I want it to. I'm guessing some kind of remote control and or tracking is what I'm looking for.

Sounds like the avast! Mobile Security app might work for you: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.avast.android.mobilesecurity

Not tried it yet though and it looks like you have to be willing to root your phone to use all of the most useful features, like surviving hard resets and disabling the USB port.

[Itiken]

Ordered my S3 the other day as this Wildfire S is really creaking now after only 1 year of use.
It's going to cost me a bit to buy my old contract out, but fuck it.
I want Shiny.
NOW
(in blue so waiting a few weeks)

[Lana Torrin]

So speaking of phone processors..

The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 @ 1.5 GHz.. I know its new and has had shipping problems.. But what phones currently use it and how does it run?

[Navigator Six]

So speaking of phone processors..

The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 @ 1.5 GHz.. I know its new and has had shipping problems.. But what phones currently use it and how does it run?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_S4

AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review) thinks the S4 is essentially comparable to the alternative (Tegra 3): Tegra has better multithreading but S4 wins on single-threaded stuff and power efficiency (i.e. battery life).

edit: for battery life comparisons, check out these charts (the AT&T One X has the S4, while the international One X has the Tegra 3):

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5779/46097.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5779/46099.png

[Rudolf Miller]

Can anyone recommend a good media player paid or otherwise for my Galaxy Nexus? I just realized that Google expects me to use Play Music for that function, and god does it do that job terribly...

[Ted Breakers]

Can anyone recommend a good media player paid or otherwise for my Galaxy Nexus? I just realized that Google expects me to use Play Music for that function, and god does it do that job terribly...




I use Power Amp, its very nice.

[Lana Torrin]

So speaking of phone processors..

The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 @ 1.5 GHz.. I know its new and has had shipping problems.. But what phones currently use it and how does it run?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_S4

AnandTech (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review) thinks the S4 is essentially comparable to the alternative (Tegra 3): Tegra has better multithreading but S4 wins on single-threaded stuff and power efficiency (i.e. battery life).

edit: for battery life comparisons, check out these charts (the AT&T One X has the S4, while the international One X has the Tegra 3):

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5779/46097.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5779/46099.png

Cheers. I did Google first but I'm as bad at that as I am at posting. I was looking for a tegra3 phone/tab/something but the s4 ones seen to be more common. So I guess I'm jumping back in the fuck NVIDIA bandwagon.

[Mangala Solaris]

Upgraded from a HTC Desire to the S3 today. No change in contract costs (my base rate is £15 a month and has been for years despite doing a fuck ton of business calls on that package), and I got it for free. Sometimes being with t-mobile for 8 years pays off.

Should be here in a day or so then I can waste days getting all the apps I want and arranging the screens "just so".

[Cool09]

A couple years ago I bought a Nexus One from google and have been using it on the Rogers network (one of the big 3 in Canada). Unfortunately their month-to-month plan sucks, its expensive, and I don't even have basic shit like call display (extra 8$ a month trololol) or image messenging. The other big carriers don't look much better, their prices are basically the same. So I need to sign a contract to get decent a service plan.

It's time for a new phone, and since I'm on month-to-month I can go with whatever carrier I want. First I'd like to give Rogers a chance by offering to sign a 1-2 year contract if they can get me a good deal on a phone and a good plan. Their advertised rates are completely unacceptable, if they don't throw me a bone then I leave. This way I can play the "I've been getting ripped off for 2 years" card. Am I more likely to get a better deal from someone over the phone or in person at a store?

[Lana Torrin]

A couple years ago I bought a Nexus One from google and have been using it on the Rogers network (one of the big 3 in Canada). Unfortunately their month-to-month plan sucks, its expensive, and I don't even have basic shit like call display (extra 8$ a month trololol) or image messenging. The other big carriers don't look much better, their prices are basically the same. So I need to sign a contract to get decent a service plan.

It's time for a new phone, and since I'm on month-to-month I can go with whatever carrier I want. First I'd like to give Rogers a chance by offering to sign a 1-2 year contract if they can get me a good deal on a phone and a good plan. Their advertised rates are completely unacceptable, if they don't throw me a bone then I leave. This way I can play the "I've been getting ripped off for 2 years" card. Am I more likely to get a better deal from someone over the phone or in person at a store?

Do you look convincing? It's harder to lie face to face with someone, so as a result the impact of being face to face is better. Ie, more empathy. Having said that if you are happy with them and just trying it on they will pick that up face to face (unless you are good) so phone is better.

For more classes on scamming people in eve place forward.....

[Cosmin]

I'm sticking with the s2, the s3 is way too bulky IMHO and the hardware upgrade doesn't make sense atm - same graphics accelerator and 2 more cores 300 Mhz higher (achievable on the s2 viaoverclocking should it be needed, however that's unlikely IMO).

The android devs need to sort out multicore app optimization before the hardware becomes really too advanced.

The upgrade from s1 to s3 might be considered though.

Ta pa ta pa tapa talk.

[Aramendel]

Hardware not really, but the software changes are interesting. Stuff like the phone not switching off when you look at it is very nice.
A nonissue if you plan to switch to a custom rom right away, of course.

[Cosmin]

Custom ROMs are the norm imho, as the producers tend to overload the phones with a lot of useless bloatware that sometimes dwarf the hardware progress. I know people with custom ICS on Galaxy S that works blazing fast, still no official upgrade from Samsung, with stupid reasons like...

It is because of their complex Touchwiz launcher which runs over the basic Android they are unable to update it.
Source (http://pinappu.hubpages.com/hub/Samsung-Galaxy-S-firmware-update-to-Android-40-aka-Ice-Cream-Sandwich).

Don't really know whether face recognition is ICS-only (or S3 only, for that matter, as S2 also got the ICS upgrade), but what I know for sure is that people complain how crap it is in low light (which is quite normal).

I'm sometimes amused by intensely marketed features that don't really work properly or only work properly in some situations - I used to use (still have it) an Alienware laptop that had a face recognition login feature. Well, everything fine and dandy, you got up from the desk it would lock itself and would unlock when you sat in front of it again. Next, as time went by, it bugged more and more, especially in low light and the final drop being intense memory leaks that made that software eat up as much as 1GB of RAM as shown in the Task manager. Uninstalled it and never looked back.

Yes, we're on the right track, but the new trends in game development ("here's your product, 49.99, now expect DLC in 1 month for 19.99 and another 10 during the next year for only 5.99 each"), software development ("yo it's bugged", "np, patching", "still bugged", "np patching" ad nauseam until you get X+X*3/4MB of patches that adress anything but the main problem, where X is the size of your program) and hardware development (new products that come out so fast and are often unimpressive to say the least in the new advantages they offer) make for a grim perspective. Remember when one would switch from a Pentium Pro to a Pentium II or from 16 to 32MB RAM? Huge performance increase that was noticeably there. Now if Galaxy S would've received an official ICS optimized upgrade I'm sure the S3 upgrade would've been pointless for those users.

And here you have to hand it to Apple, their iOS latest upgrade for the 4S works flawlessly on the 3GS. It's funny how the perspective changed, as Apple embraced among the first the idea that the hardware is what brings the most money, they still offer support for their obsolete offspring. They do ruin this impression by doing other stuffs which I won't go into though.

[Aramendel]

Don't really know whether face recognition is ICS-only (or S3 only, for that matter, as S2 also got the ICS upgrade), but what I know for sure is that people complain how crap it is in low light (which is quite normal).

I am not talking about face unlock (which is a general ICS feature). Nor really about face recognition.

I am talking about the phone noting if *anyones* face is looking at it and, if yes, it not turning the screen off. Because a person is right now reading something or waiting for a answer-IM or SMS, etc. and even though he/she does no input he/she does not want the screen to time out. This is a S3 only feature (although it might get ported to roms) and sounds really handy. It should also be far less error prone than real face recognition because checking if a face is in view of the camera is something rather less complex than checking if a *specific* face is in view of it.

The S3 has quite a few of such small perks. The general consents of the reviews I've read is that, hell freezing over, Touchwiz actually *improved* a phone for a change. Mostly not with features you try out once and then switch off (like the "S-Voice" which didn't really impress) but small things which save you a tap or two in common actions and generally make handling the phone more fluid. There were also comments about the very welcome lack of bloatware.

So a focus on only the hardware cause one would put a custom rom on anyway isn't the right viewpoint here IMO. The S3 isn't the S1. Things change.

[Kalil]

So Megathread is larger than I want to read through. A friend is going to pick me up a smartphone on the way back from R+R, it will be my first and I need it factory unlocked. He can get me the following, Ive got a window of a couple of hours to change my mind but am currently thinking in order or preference:

Motorola Droid Razor Maxx $600
Galaxy Nexus $510
Galaxy S II $470

Am I making some awful mistake that I dont know about because of my noobiness? I have access to wifi but no 3G. Edge is really shitty out here. I want it to play around on games, be a basic organiser for my life, play music and maybe watch movies. I read a few reviews including the CNET reviews this morning. FHC please, lend me your wisdom.

Also if it makes any difference to the advice:

Looking likely to sneak through in time for Motorola's Q2 deadline, Verizon has published support documents covering an Ice Cream Sandwich update for both the Droid RAZR and Droid RAZR Maxx. This preamble is typically followed by an update just days later and features the same build number that leaked out earlier this week. The refresh adds a four-way lockscreen shortcut, refreshed notifications, global roaming, a smart actions app update and plenty more Android 4.0 holo design riffs. Hit up the source for the documents and a handful of video tours.

[Rudolf Miller]

So Megathread is larger than I want to read through. A friend is going to pick me up a smartphone on the way back from R+R, it will be my first and I need it factory unlocked. He can get me the following, Ive got a window of a couple of hours to change my mind but am currently thinking in order or preference:

Motorola Droid Razor Maxx $600
Galaxy Nexus $510
Galaxy S II $470

Am I making some awful mistake that I dont know about because of my noobiness? I have access to wifi but no 3G. Edge is really shitty out here. I want it to play around on games, be a basic organiser for my life, play music and maybe watch movies. I read a few reviews including the CNET reviews this morning. FHC please, lend me your wisdom.

Also if it makes any difference to the advice:

Looking likely to sneak through in time for Motorola's Q2 deadline, Verizon has published support documents covering an Ice Cream Sandwich update for both the Droid RAZR and Droid RAZR Maxx. This preamble is typically followed by an update just days later and features the same build number that leaked out earlier this week. The refresh adds a four-way lockscreen shortcut, refreshed notifications, global roaming, a smart actions app update and plenty more Android 4.0 holo design riffs. Hit up the source for the documents and a handful of video tours.

Take it from someone who's had two very disappointing motorola phones. MotoBLUR (their UI overlay) is the shittiest piece of software ever created by man. It takes features that are perfectly fine and breaks them for the sake of differentiation. As much as I tried, I could not make their overlay work efficiently or keep it from breaking. Way too many memory leaks, pointless features, pointless use of resources whenever the phone decides to use them. The only benefit of the MAXX is it has the biggest battery on the market.

If I had to recommend one, it would be the Nexus. It is by far and away the best phone on the list simply because of Ice Cream Sandwich. I'm sure people have nice things to say about the SII as well, but I don't have experience with which to comment.

[Aramendel]

It also has the best screen and will get Jelly Bean sometime this year. Nexus would be my pick as well.

[Kalil]

Thanks guys

[Itiken]

The Galaxy SIII is teh greatest phone ever made.
That is All.
brb making iPhoens look dated and shit in the sales office.

[Rudolf Miller]

The Galaxy SIII is teh greatest phone ever made.
That is All.
brb making iPhoens look dated and shit in the sales office.

jelly.. so very jelly...

[Itiken]

Just get one.
seriously
I've had to buy out of my old contract to get this, and it's worth every single penny....

[Rudolf Miller]

Just get one.
seriously
I've had to buy out of my old contract to get this, and it's worth every single penny....

I'm just mad because my hand was forced by verizon, and I will never be able to get a subsidized phone again. Paying outright for phones may give more freedom per se but it's also expensive as all hell. Granted the 16gb LTE S3 is only $599 but considering I just moved and furnished my new apartment that's a steep price.

[NoirAvlaa]

Galaxy S3 arrives tomorrow. 750mb internet, 300 minutes, unlimited texts, £26 per month for 2 years. (I know it's 2 years which sucks, but after doing the math of "if I bought the phone outright" then I'm paying about £5 per month for the contract, which is p. decent IMO)

[Cosmin]

No unlimited internet? Be very careful.

Ta pa ta pa ta pa talk.

[Rudolf Miller]

No unlimited internet? Be very careful.

Ta pa ta pa ta pa talk.

In the US that per month contract would likely be chillin in the $70-$80/month range.

[Madscotsman]

Galaxy S3 arrives tomorrow. 750mb internet, 300 minutes, unlimited texts, £26 per month for 2 years. (I know it's 2 years which sucks, but after doing the math of "if I bought the phone outright" then I'm paying about £5 per month for the contract, which is p. decent IMO)

That's a pretty good deal. Wife and I have nearly 2 year old phones on orange 2 year contract, I have HTC desire and she has galaxy S 1, contract's up in a few months but we have unlimited texts and 500Mb data which has been more than enough for us.

[Itiken]

No unlimited internet? Be very careful.

Ta pa ta pa ta pa talk.

In the US that per month contract would likely be chillin in the $70-$80/month range.

£25 == $70
C/D
:D

[Rudolf Miller]

No unlimited internet? Be very careful.

Ta pa ta pa ta pa talk.

In the US that per month contract would likely be chillin in the $70-$80/month range.

£25 == $70
C/D
:D

D.. it's only about $40 ;)

[Cosmin]

D, it's more like £1 ~= 1.5$, good one though :D

My contract is ~£27

Inclusive UK voice minutes: 2000 mins
Inclusive UK text messages: 5000 texts
Three-to-Three UK calls: 5000 mins
Internet Allowance: All-you-can-eat data


Drawbacks? Three network, which is crappy, can't say the other networks excel though compared to this one. Never used all the minutes. Never texting (might as well call the poor bastard rather than twitch my fingers). Tethering is very nice in some locations, <100ms ping stuffs, sometimes <60ms. Can't use SIM in modems (only in phones). Can tether via AP or USB though.

Depending on the phone, you need to add £15-25£ to that per month and maybe upfront costs for the phone itself, dunno, I always buy my phones SIM free, as I switch SIMs as I travel (cba with roaming charges, thx).

[bundus]

fifty

I pay like 60 AU to include tv channels 300 worth of calls and 2gig data(social media and tv are not included in usage)
The S3 is pretty good but my note I have in a flipbook backing so i just slot it into the back of the chair in front of me when travelling and watch movies on the hard drive and tv when there is signal.

[NoirAvlaa]

On T-Mobile which also uses Orange phone masts because of some deal they have with each other. Most the places I go have WiFi so 750mb should be enough, most other contracts were only at 500mb (Wanted 1gb but I can't have it all)

[Krugerrand]

On T-Mobile which also uses Orange phone masts because of some deal they have with each other. Most the places I go have WiFi so 750mb should be enough, most other contracts were only at 500mb (Wanted 1gb but I can't have it all)

aye it should be plenty tbh. Ordering mine in 2-3 weeks I think.

Will be a bit of a change from current phone...
http://blog.phoneslimited.co.uk/files/2009/03/c510-x-2.jpg

[Kanv]

I need a new radio app for my Android that doesn't turn on Bluetooth.any recommendations?

My searches have brought up internet radios

[Lana Torrin]

I need a new radio app for my Android that doesn't turn on Bluetooth.any recommendations?

My searches have brought up internet radios

Can you even get one? Wouldn't the radio hardware be phone specific?

[Kanv]

I need a new radio app for my Android that doesn't turn on Bluetooth.any recommendations?

My searches have brought up internet radios

Can you even get one? Wouldn't the radio hardware be phone specific?I don't know. I have a rooted Desire, so i have used at least 3 different radios that came with the OSs, but I didn't think that they would have that sort of restriction.

[Stoffl]

I need a new radio app for my Android that doesn't turn on Bluetooth.any recommendations?

My searches have brought up internet radios

Maybe its me but your post makes no sense.

FM radio apps? Why would they use Bluetooth.

tappin dat talk

[Zeekar]

No unlimited internet? Be very careful.

Ta pa ta pa ta pa talk.

In the US that per month contract would likely be chillin in the $70-$80/month range.

For me thats kinda steep even in UK. Here 1 gig of data, unlimited text and calls in my own network and 200 minutes in other networks would set me back cca 20€.

On the other hand phone prices are fucking murder here.

750€ with no contract 550€ with a 2 year contract for samsung galaxy S III - 32 gig

[balistic void]

I need a new radio app for my Android that doesn't turn on Bluetooth.any recommendations?

My searches have brought up internet radios

Can you even get one? Wouldn't the radio hardware be phone specific?

FM radios are indeed hardware specific, you won't be able to find a generic fm radio app. Your phone might even not support fm radio at all...

You will however find shitloads of internet radio apps.

[Kanv]

I need a new radio app for my Android that doesn't turn on Bluetooth.any recommendations?

My searches have brought up internet radios

Maybe its me but your post makes no sense.

FM radio apps? Why would they use Bluetooth.

tappin dat talk

Exactly.the ROM I use came with the miui radio, which turns on Bluetooth to get signal, so goodbye battery.
I have also used what looks like the stock one but can't find it.

Last night I found spirit free radio, but functionality has been locked out unless I pirate it.

[shaewyn]

Well, the end of my current phone contract is fast approaching... and I'm wanting to upgrade. So, I come here for advice.

First off, I dislike apple, so no iPhone. Also, BlackBerry is not going to exist a year from now, and I dislike physical keyboards.

I'm currently looking at either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X as options. The reviews/comparisons online say that they're pretty damn close to each other, and it's mostly a preference thing. Anyone have either phone/care to comment?

Also, I've looked at the phone contracts from the major carriers here (I'm in Manitoba, so MTS, Telus and Rogers - rogers is out 'cause they're dicks.), and I'm thinking that my best bet is to buy an unlocked phone and go with a month-to-month plan. Any reason I should be wary of this idea? (and, does anyone know a good source to get either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X online?)

I'm also considering rooting the phone (or at least the possibility). Any major reasons I should avoid that/should do that?

[NoirAvlaa]

So my first Galaxy S3 was broke (Kept crashing). Hopefully getting the replacement one today. Fingers crossed for one that works!

[NoirAvlaa]

Well, the end of my current phone contract is fast approaching... and I'm wanting to upgrade. So, I come here for advice.

First off, I dislike apple, so no iPhone. Also, BlackBerry is not going to exist a year from now, and I dislike physical keyboards.

I'm currently looking at either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X as options. The reviews/comparisons online say that they're pretty damn close to each other, and it's mostly a preference thing. Anyone have either phone/care to comment?

Also, I've looked at the phone contracts from the major carriers here (I'm in Manitoba, so MTS, Telus and Rogers - rogers is out 'cause they're dicks.), and I'm thinking that my best bet is to buy an unlocked phone and go with a month-to-month plan. Any reason I should be wary of this idea? (and, does anyone know a good source to get either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X online?)

I'm also considering rooting the phone (or at least the possibility). Any major reasons I should avoid that/should do that?

Could wait for a Nexus - Google phone with instant updates (Instead of updates 10 months later when the phone company approves it). Will come with Jellybean too.

[Waagaa]

Got the HTC One X and the screen is HUGE! It gets some getting used to, but the 720p screen and the quad core really shine when you use a lot of different apps. On my desire my twitter client or game would stutter when a bunch of mails came in via exchange & gmail, now it just all flows perfectly. The space on the phone is also more than enough.

Colleague has the S3, is very happy with it as well and I've tried it out and it's about the same. I'm just very fond of HTC Sense and how it integrates everything for me, so for me the choice was easy.

[Rudolf Miller]

Well, the end of my current phone contract is fast approaching... and I'm wanting to upgrade. So, I come here for advice.

First off, I dislike apple, so no iPhone. Also, BlackBerry is not going to exist a year from now, and I dislike physical keyboards.

I'm currently looking at either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X as options. The reviews/comparisons online say that they're pretty damn close to each other, and it's mostly a preference thing. Anyone have either phone/care to comment?

Also, I've looked at the phone contracts from the major carriers here (I'm in Manitoba, so MTS, Telus and Rogers - rogers is out 'cause they're dicks.), and I'm thinking that my best bet is to buy an unlocked phone and go with a month-to-month plan. Any reason I should be wary of this idea? (and, does anyone know a good source to get either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X online?)

I'm also considering rooting the phone (or at least the possibility). Any major reasons I should avoid that/should do that?

Could wait for a Nexus - Google phone with instant updates (Instead of updates 10 months later when the phone company approves it). Will come with Jellybean too.

Basically this.

Nexus-> Hardware inferior, Google superior
S3-> Hardware superior, up to Samsung on the coding(and possibly your carrier too. Too many hands in that cookie jar)

[ry ry]

The Galaxy SIII is teh greatest phone ever made.
That is All.
brb making iPhoens look dated and shit in the sales office.

we have them in the office (some of the dudes got them as company phones, the rest are for testing) and they are fucking HUGE. like, hard to hold huge. borderline dell streak size but wafer thin.

good phones, in the same way the ipad would be a good phone.

[balistic void]

Midgets y u so mad at sgs3?

[Stoffl]

Hi, it's me again, the tard who killed his Desire HD GPS antenna a couple months ago.

Well GPS reception was pissing me off once again, not even getting getting a proper fix outside with clear sky(even after a while only ~4-5 satellites with SNR of 15-20 db according to GPS Test) so I gave it another go.

This time I applied small blobs of solder directly to the golden spring contacts on the PCB and didn't mess with the antenna cover.

Verdict: Huge fucking success.
Booted up, launched GPS Test and within a couple seconds I had a lock to 9 satellites and overall increase of ~10dB. In my flat. With the blinds shut.




The HTC guy responsible for the design of the GPS antenna on the Desire HD should be shitcanned, sobad.
Freakin sprin contacts with 0.1 mm² contact surface connecting to a shitty strip of conductive paint on the antenna/flash cover. :evil:

[shaewyn]

Well, the end of my current phone contract is fast approaching... and I'm wanting to upgrade. So, I come here for advice.

First off, I dislike apple, so no iPhone. Also, BlackBerry is not going to exist a year from now, and I dislike physical keyboards.

I'm currently looking at either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X as options. The reviews/comparisons online say that they're pretty damn close to each other, and it's mostly a preference thing. Anyone have either phone/care to comment?

Also, I've looked at the phone contracts from the major carriers here (I'm in Manitoba, so MTS, Telus and Rogers - rogers is out 'cause they're dicks.), and I'm thinking that my best bet is to buy an unlocked phone and go with a month-to-month plan. Any reason I should be wary of this idea? (and, does anyone know a good source to get either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X online?)

I'm also considering rooting the phone (or at least the possibility). Any major reasons I should avoid that/should do that?

Could wait for a Nexus - Google phone with instant updates (Instead of updates 10 months later when the phone company approves it). Will come with Jellybean too.

Basically this.

Nexus-> Hardware inferior, Google superior
S3-> Hardware superior, up to Samsung on the coding(and possibly your carrier too. Too many hands in that cookie jar)

would rooting the S3 and installing ICS (or jellybean) clean be worth it? also, looking at the numbers, it makes financial sense for me to get an unlocked phone and go month-to-month (if I don't want to be locked in to a 3 year contract)

[Cool09]

Well, the end of my current phone contract is fast approaching... and I'm wanting to upgrade. So, I come here for advice.

First off, I dislike apple, so no iPhone. Also, BlackBerry is not going to exist a year from now, and I dislike physical keyboards.

I'm currently looking at either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X as options. The reviews/comparisons online say that they're pretty damn close to each other, and it's mostly a preference thing. Anyone have either phone/care to comment?

Also, I've looked at the phone contracts from the major carriers here (I'm in Manitoba, so MTS, Telus and Rogers - rogers is out 'cause they're dicks.), and I'm thinking that my best bet is to buy an unlocked phone and go with a month-to-month plan. Any reason I should be wary of this idea? (and, does anyone know a good source to get either the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X online?)

I'm also considering rooting the phone (or at least the possibility). Any major reasons I should avoid that/should do that?

Could wait for a Nexus - Google phone with instant updates (Instead of updates 10 months later when the phone company approves it). Will come with Jellybean too.

Basically this.

Nexus-> Hardware inferior, Google superior
S3-> Hardware superior, up to Samsung on the coding(and possibly your carrier too. Too many hands in that cookie jar)

would rooting the S3 and installing ICS (or jellybean) clean be worth it? also, looking at the numbers, it makes financial sense for me to get an unlocked phone and go month-to-month (if I don't want to be locked in to a 3 year contract)

I thought exactly the same way. Bought my nexus one outright from google, and went on month-to-month. It's almost 3 years later and I've got the same phone, and all this time I've had a shitty month to month plan and no upgrade option. You have to keep in mind, the companies are in close competition so its not like one will be far better than the other in a year or something. Also they use different network technology, so since my phone only works on Rogers, there is literally no reason NOT to sign a contract since I couldn't get 3g+ speeds using the other networks anyway.

The contract people get better plans, cheaper phones, and upgrade deals. With Rogers btw... yes they are shit but the others aren't much better. Their prices are a few cents off each other last I checked, its silly. Basically I'm saying... yes I've had "freedom" from a contract. But there is little point unless I wanted to re-buy another phone to join another provider.

[balistic void]

would rooting the S3 and installing ICS (or jellybean) clean be worth it? also, looking at the numbers, it makes financial sense for me to get an unlocked phone and go month-to-month (if I don't want to be locked in to a 3 year contract)

In theory yes. But put it like this, cm9 only just officially came out for the sgs2. If you go the custom route yes you can have the latest android but it will be a beta rom with probably lots of minor problems (bluetooth or video not working etc). SGS3 is brand new so will takes ages for roms to catch up again.

Conversely with a Nexus device you have the latest shizzle, and it's an official rom...

[Pattern]

Sooo.... Are you guys still suggesting this fragmentation bullshit isn't a big deal? Having recently switched, I'm finding it even more of a PITA than I feared.

Wouldn't mind 4.1, but not at the cost of my phone missing basic functionality until who knows when.

[Aramendel]

Yes and no. I highly doubt that the average user really cares that much about his/her version of the phone OS. It's nice to have the latest stuff, but if you ask the average user which android (or iOS) version their phone is using they won't know the answer. It's not like a phone suddenly stops working.

For powerusers it's more annoying, but for those iPhones have their own problem with their highly restrictive garden which essentially requires jailbreaking if you want to do anything halfway "non-conform". In general you will have fewer problems with Android "beta" roms compared to iOS jailbreak roms. Unlike with commercial software Android roms usually only get out of beta when the people making them are happy with them, so minor issues (missing basic functionality is very much *not* a minor issue) can keep them in beta for quite a while. They are usually very useable months before they get out of beta.

tl'dr: For the average user fragmentation is no issue. For powerusers it's annoying, but there the situation (jailbreaking, custom roms, etc) is for iOS if anything worse.

That being said, it is certainly one of the major problems with android, but that does not mean its effect is major. What kinda puzzles me is why Samsung, HTC, etc still insist on adding their own version on top of those of Stock Android. Customer research should have shown them by now quite clearly that people either do not care about their additions or that they dislike them.

[elmicker]

Sooo.... Are you guys still suggesting this fragmentation bullshit isn't a big deal?

Yeah. As far as users are concerned, anyway. Most users couldn't give a flying fuck what version of android their phone is running, as long as it looks nice, runs smoothly, lasts 24 hours and runs whatever app you throw at it. I used to root my phone and install the VERY LATEST OF EVERYTHING like some sort of version-obsessed crack addict, but honestly since 2.3 or so other than UI improvements (wasted since I re-skin everything anyway), battery improvements (wasted since i charge every night without fail) and some minor performance bumps I've not seen the point. Fragmentation is simply not a user issue. It might be an issue for a small number of developers, but they just need to deal with it.

[Pattern]

Jail Braking iPhones is piss easy. Rooting/Flashing and installing a new rom on an HTC One X was :psyduck: - Feels like I traded walled garden with Carrier/Manufacturer cockblock.

Also, i'm still bitter about not being able to play Galaxy on Fire 2 and Bejeweled! :(

[Stoffl]

That being said, it is certainly one of the major problems with android, but that does not mean its effect is major. What kinda puzzles me is why Samsung, HTC, etc still insist on adding their own version on top of those of Stock Android. Customer research should have shown them by now quite clearly that people either do not care about their additions or that they dislike them.

Because it's the only thing that differentiates their products from the competitors.

Sense isn't as *bad* as, for example, lolSony and Samsungs touchwhiz. It even has useful features which still aren't in ICS/Jellybean(USB Tethering, Reverse USB Tethering, Sync over USB and so on).

Not using a sense rom anymore though, the sleekness and speed of ICS >>> those features.




@Pattern
Notsureifsrsorjustabad

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167
Literally one click to root.

Then it's just a matter of installing rom manager and choosing one.

[Cool09]

Um, stock android has had USB (and wifi) tethering for what... 2 years?

[Aramendel]

Because it's the only thing that differentiates their products from the competitors.

Not necessarily. Stuff like the screen size and type, physical (or not) home buttons, quality of the sound chips, battery size, etc. can result in quite a few differences. And while their own skinning of Android further differentiates them it is more of a negative effect. You buy a Samsung smartphone despite touchwhiz, not partly because it.

They could instead implement their own additions as smartphone-hardware-locked Apps on top of stock android, that way we wouldn't have issues with Android updates and users could decide which of the extra features they want to keep.

[Itiken]

Jail Braking iPhones is piss easy. Rooting/Flashing and installing a new rom on an HTC One X was :psyduck: -

You have to make everything 1button-easy for apple users, or they can't do it.

[Stoffl]

Um, stock android has had USB (and wifi) tethering for what... 2 years?

nope.

Wifi, yes.
USB, depends on the version.
Reverse USB Tethering ? Nope. Theres apps but it's godawfully complicated.


Im talking about the Sense menu that pops up when you plug in USB. Very handy.

tappin dat talk

[elmicker]

I actually really like sense. The new ICS version is very nice. Same goes for touchwiz, really. The days of the custom UIs being nothing but bloat are long gone.

[Cool09]

Um, stock android has had USB (and wifi) tethering for what... 2 years?

nope.

Wifi, yes.
USB, depends on the version.
Reverse USB Tethering ? Nope. Theres apps but it's godawfully complicated.


Im talking about the Sense menu that pops up when you plug in USB. Very handy.

tappin dat talk

What do you mean "depends on the version?" I said stock android.

Froyo came out in 2010 with USB and wifi tether. According to my calculations that is 2 years ago.

Seems simple? "nope"

Reverse tether - I never said stock had it. It's for all those times your wifi and cellphone towers explode, but your PC still has internet, and you'd rather browse on a 5" screen than on your monitor. Happens all the time. But by all means use it as another reason to put another "nope" in your post to show how right you are.

[Stoffl]

Um, stock android has had USB (and wifi) tethering for what... 2 years?

nope.

Wifi, yes.
USB, depends on the version.
Reverse USB Tethering ? Nope. Theres apps but it's godawfully complicated.


Im talking about the Sense menu that pops up when you plug in USB. Very handy.

tappin dat talk

What do you mean "depends on the version?" I said stock android.

Froyo came out in 2010 with USB and wifi tether. According to my calculations that is 2 years ago.

Seems simple? "nope"

Reverse tether - I never said stock had it. It's for all those times your wifi and cellphone towers explode, but your PC still has internet, and you'd rather browse on a 5" screen than on your monitor. Happens all the time. But by all means use it as another reason to put another "nope" in your post to show how right you are.

Yes it was introduced with froyo afaik. I know my magic didn't have it until the update which was, I dunno, 1.5 years ago ?.
Didn't know Froyo is actually that old, I guess you're right.
And unlike on a sense rom it's hidden deep in the settings menu.

Reverse tether is usefull when you're updating/download a shitload of apps after a flash. Or downloading a ROM with clockword mod/goomanager.
Not everyone has wifi, not all Froyo devices have wifi tethering.


Also, don't be so butthurt meight.

[Cool09]

I guess I was spoiled with the Nexus One, got those OTA updates first.

Also my butthurt knows no bounds.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

[Hast]

Reverse tether is usefull when you're updating/download a shitload of apps after a flash. Or downloading a ROM with clockword mod/goomanager.
Not everyone has wifi, not all Froyo devices have wifi tethering.



What kind of third world hell hole do you live in?

[Jolin]

So I need to get a new phone. Can't decide between http://tinyurl.com/ctttvt2 and http://tinyurl.com/6muoaue

Any suggestions?

[NoirAvlaa]

So I need to get a new phone. Can't decide between http://tinyurl.com/ctttvt2 and http://tinyurl.com/6muoaue

Any suggestions?

Set your location.

[Jolin]

So I need to get a new phone. Can't decide between http://tinyurl.com/ctttvt2 and http://tinyurl.com/6muoaue

Any suggestions?

Set your location.

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