The Old Republic (better than DayZ)

[Daco]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 4 HOUR DT.

Why are DTs always in AU TZ :(

[Sirial Soulfly]

Man yesterday after the 5th wave was released I got in.
I created 8 characters played them all to lvl 3 ish to reserve their names and then commenced playing the bounty hunter till about 4 in the morning.
Game is virtual crack and as I am a junkie its just what I need =)
Ended up at the rp-pve server the progenitor.
No frame rate issues at all.
I have an ati card and I all I had to do was use the ccc thingy to force AA to x8, resolution at 1920x1200 everything high averages out at 40 fps.
Game looks great.
Rest of the day I wil be enjoying my escapism.

Edit: that is when the maintenance ends >.<

[Daco]

I am also on a RP-PVE server can't remember its name though, West Coast one starting with B and has colony at the end. I must say the RP ones are a lot nicer because you don't get retards saying stupid things in the chat and people seem genuinely quite helpful compared to just the normal PVE servers.

And yes I went with PVE because I couldn't be assed with people being able to kill me anywhere I want to play it for the story's not PVP.

[Tyrehl]

The whole early access system is a sham...I burned my code EARLY, and there are people who used theirs yesterday and got their early access today.

I'd actually be ok with this, but right on their customer support page it says the early access would be first come first served...so much for sticking to the plan

Sent from my HTC EVO using Tapatalk (pissing FHC off since 2011)

Noobcake as far as I know there really are people that redeemed their code earlier and still have no invite / no active [PLAY] button. The opposite, however, is complete bullshit. Ive been following the threads where people report their redeem / EGA dates and it looks ok to me. People get access when they should, not earlier than that. From time to time some faggot says that he preordered on say, the 12th, but its bullshit.


Im really hoping that my 13.12.12 preoprer will be enough to get into the early access today. Or i will kill someone (still no reply from biofag support).

[bundus]

hey I was in 2 days ago and level 16 now in Coruscant.
Played all the quests through etc.
Trooper is so much fun.

[lubica]

Preordered on 1.12., got access yesterday. EU, English PVP, The Treyan Academy (for now, have some mates already on Bloodworthy, but fuck 70min waitimes)

[Warpath]

Not read the whole thread, but anyone been ingame to see what it's like? seen a few vids by totalbiscuit, and it looked a bit shit tbh.

[Daco]

hey I was in 2 days ago and level 16 now in Coruscant.
Played all the quests through etc.
Trooper is so much fun.

You played all the quests in 2 days.......... did you like move from the comp for anything?

[Iloni Atoriandra]

Forcing AA through your card does clean it up a bit and helps make it prettier.

[Deri]

Rolled Republic side on The Twin Peaks if anyone happens to be on it. Names Yardesh so far, sadly work cutting into play time so wont really be able to play much till later in the weekend. In beta I had tons of issues with the audio and UI bugs but seems most of them are worked out now in release. Still cant properly force AA for me though, get tons of graphical issues.

[Skeptic]

Moved everything up to max settings and did a few tweaks and to be fair it looks pretty damn good, stylized sure but still very decent. The game launches at the lowest settings and as strong as a first impression can be it seems strange you have to do all this manually to make it look nice.

Enjoying it so far and hit 24-25 last night cant quite remember, one tip is to get all the quests relating to the space combat done as soon as they pop up because they reward fat xp at the earlier levels. Server im on seems dead, I am wondering just how phased these servers are because I have never seen more that 100 in any zone so far. Made a bit of an stupid knee jerk decision and rolled on a PvE server but in all the time so far playing I have yet to even clap eyes on a republic player so hardly matters, can always do another playthrough on a PvP server once they are nicely filled with shitters.

One minor annoying thing so far is the camera insisting on zooming in and locking when it encounters terrain down from the maximum level. Still would recommend going into the options and enabling the maximum level of zoom-out.

[Aramendel]

Dromund Kaas (imperial 10-16 planet) on my server was at over 100 yesterday late evening when I had to visit it for a short quest. Haven't seen above 10 people of Tatooine (24-28) though. But that is simply because I played waaaaaaay too much the last 3 days. Had no work, etc. Or, better, I have work, but it is no fixed time one, so I decided to do it..later.

Graphics - it is not skyrim jawdropping thats for sure. But ...seriously... tell me a MMORPG which looks better. I am quite happy with the landscaping though, stuff looks very natural, it lacks the "cubism" of many other games.

[Malaes]

Dromund Kaas (imperial 10-16 planet) on my server was at over 100 yesterday late evening when I had to visit it for a short quest.


Think the zone instances are capped at about 100-110 people so you won't find any more.

[Mangala Solaris]

300+ is what they were at in Beta, and I can see them returning to that in a few days when they feel the load is enough.

Coruscant on Frostclaw has nearly 200 in it right now.

[Malaes]

300+ is what they were at in Beta, and I can see them returning to that in a few days when they feel the load is enough.

Coruscant on Frostclaw has nearly 200 in it right now.

Interesting, I was only guessing as I have never seen more than 110.

Hope I don't have to wait in to much of a queue when I get home from work :(

[Iloni Atoriandra]

Hoping my CE box arrives today for when I get home from work.

[Malaes]

Hoping my CE box arrives today for when I get home from work.

Cancelled my Amazon ones and reordered a pair from shopto, one turned up yesterday other didn't fucking royal mail!

[Iloni Atoriandra]

Grr phoned my staff at home and its not there yet. Should get my digi deluxe key today which I no longer need so will likely give away as an xmas present.

[Hels]

When are physical copies going to be available? In the states and looked yesterday. No dice.

[Hels]

Grr phoned my staff at home and its not there yet. Should get my digi deluxe key today which I no longer need so will likely give away as an xmas present.

If that's an American code (if that even matters). We can work a deal. Japan messes with origin bad.

[jbend9620]

my staff at home

why fuck around with having it shipped at all when you could make them go get you one?

[Skeptic]

My physical copy arrived in the post yesterday, have not opened it yet as you dont need one until the 20th when it launches properly.

[Hels]

Oh so the 20th is the actual launch date?

[Dregek]

yes pre-launch started on the 13th with the actual game being released on the 20th

also origin just sent out the emails with the product registration codes :D

[Hels]

Well then. Guess I'll just wait.

[Aramendel]

Dromund Kaas (imperial 10-16 planet) on my server was at over 100 yesterday late evening when I had to visit it for a short quest.


Think the zone instances are capped at about 100-110 people so you won't find any more.

Number shows people in all zone instances of that planet on the server. In Dormund Kass those 100 were spread over 2 instances.

[Tyrehl]

Dromund Kaas (imperial 10-16 planet) on my server was at over 100 yesterday late evening when I had to visit it for a short quest.


Think the zone instances are capped at about 100-110 people so you won't find any more.

Number shows people in all zone instances of that planet on the server. In Dormund Kass those 100 were spread over 2 instances.



Hi Aramendel!

I wanted to apologize for being derp and wasting the preorder code you gave me. Someone else could eventually put it to good use. I still havent resolved the issue with Bioshit support (the -shit part is for "lol we will make you wait between 30 hours and inifinity before we acknowledge that the name on the id card you showed us is yours"). I am expecting to get in on the next wave (or at worst on the one after it) with my own preorder code :(
I am so badman :D

:/ anyway, c u in game guys. I will be mostly playing on Nightmare Lands (Eu PVE) with 2 friends of mine. Still havent decided for another (pvp?) server for my (pvp) alt so feel free to invite me around v0v .

[Mangala Solaris]

My physical copy arrived in the post yesterday, have not opened it yet as you dont need one until the 20th when it launches properly.

Put it in now, setup sub now and then you dont have to deal with the servers melting when 2million derpers all try it at once on Tuesday.

[noobcake]

alright, so I finally got in. I've set the graphics to High, and I'm still experiencing some slight jaggies on a few objects. I've tried setting my nVidia control panel to override AND enhance the application settings, but to no avail. Anyone have suggestions on how to get AA to apply properly?


edit: nvm, found the ini file and added an AntiAliasingLevel string...apparently AA is turned off by default through the client, so you need to force it on through this .ini.

C:\Users\(user)\AppData\Local\SWTOR\swtor\settings contains "client_settings.ini"...open it up and add the following line:

AntiAliasingLevel=16 <<<< I used 16, but you can obviously use whatever u wanna set the AA to.

[mira o'karr]

great headstart.. stuck in a never ending log in queue :(

position in queue 739.. esitmated wait 55 minutes. guess what.. its been 1.5 fucking hours already

[Rachag]

Amazon delivered my box today, soon be in somewhere. Going to jump onto the lowest population server just to get in and arse about till i get used to it. :guinness:

[Chrien]

Really enjoying it, somewhat surprised. The quests are actually fun... my smuggler is hilarious.

[Tyrehl]

Really enjoying it, somewhat surprised. The quests are actually fun... my smuggler is hilarious.

Played with 2 friends for a couple of hours, already lvl 10 inquisitor. We just finished our companion/lightstick quests so tomorrow should be awesome. I laughed hard at some moments, especially on the class quests when 2 of us observed the conversation and the choices of the third person. "Hawt, look! I can spare him and cut his arm, leaving him alive!..... SHIT, NOW ALL THE CHOICES GIVE LIGHT SIDE POINTS" :D :D :D
<3 Bioware, even if they derped hard at moments.

[Aramendel]

Just got my Origin SWTOR key per email.

[noobcake]

jesus titty-fucking christ...this game has effectively destroyed my desire to play anything else today, and probably for the foreseeable future. I honestly didnt think this game would grip me the way it is...fucking video game crack.

[Ruri]

Bought my copy tonight, got my access email an hour later. Patched the beta client and I'm golden, that was super easy :)

US East PvE Thana Vesh, so far I'm just rebuilding the character I made in beta. Consular Shadow tanking is good times, imo.

Anyone know what it takes to start up a guild? I'd like to run something casual that spacefriends + irl friends can join in on.

[pratell]

any classes comparable to DK playstyle? Big damage, lifetaps, maybe a pet?

[sand]

I have to say, that if you're not abusing the living shit out of slicing while you can...you're doing it wrong.

Most people level 20 in my group of friends had maybe 5k-10k - the 2nd most had 20k. I had about 90k. Slicing is the SHIT! Do yourself a favor and spam the living crap out of it with every companion you have until they patch it. Think I'm 275 and right now I do missions that take roughly 20 minutes...and can make anywhere from 100-200 credits to 4k - EACH companion.

Did I also mention it drops cybertech schematics and rare mission drops?

[Iloni Atoriandra]

Ok so it did arrive yesterday just late. I didnt know if it would be in any stores so when I saw the CE available online I just got it on there.


If you preordered and are going artificing you can easily abuse the preorder crystal vendor as you can buy the crystall for 10cr and then reverse engineer them into tier 1 crafting mats.

[Sirial Soulfly]

Has anybody tried the space ship missions yet ? Very high freelancer potential there, I hope they are going to expand on that.
Would be fucking awesome.
Also slicing yes its awesome! =) as a bounty hunter I am sending Mako out constantly for slicing trips, and got my ship with the robot this morning starting to use him as well.
Game is best virtual crack since ages.

[Daco]

jesus titty-fucking christ...this game has effectively destroyed my desire to play anything else today, and probably for the foreseeable future. I honestly didnt think this game would grip me the way it is...fucking video game crack.

Pretty much this......

[Jags]

Wot lvl do you get yer spaceship ? ive only got to 16 so far even though ive had it since day 1 (drinking 4tw)

[Aramendel]

At the same "level" you got your first companion.

As in "none particular, it is all based on finishing your class missions".

[Jags]

At the same "level" you got your first companion.

As in "none particular, it is all based on finishing your class missions".

Cool :D been doing every possible side quest so taking my time at this , good game though

[Rachag]

errrr.... looks like i won't be playing anything else for the next few months. :? :companioncube:

"fucking video game crack" oh soooo true. :ohnoes:

[FatFreddy]

http://i.imgur.com/hLuS2.png

[Stormscion]

Bad game wont play. If I ever again want to play "something like WOW" I'll just freaking play WOW.

Enjoy your Kung Fu Panda.

Sci Fi Star Wars WoW > ElfTrollDwarfPanda WoW

As a long time WoW player, I honestly wonder what would make one go back to it at this point, beyond "time already spent"? Sell your toons, and play somethign new with a better IP, and more interesting quest system.

Wookiee and ewoks expansion is inevitable as well ;)

[Aramendel]

At the same "level" you got your first companion.

As in "none particular, it is all based on finishing your class missions".

Cool :D been doing every possible side quest so taking my time at this , good game though

Careful with this. If you do *everything* you will overlevel content on the next planet.

I.e. I ignored 90% of the group quests, did not do the "bonus quests" of the last 2 planets and only did 1 flashpoint *and* evaded a lot of mobs with stealth I am just slightly underleveled.
Unless you want to fight stuff semi-afk because it is so easy do not do evry quest, save those for a playthrough with another class.



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Something else - if you disconnect now and then with some 9000something error message you need to open a few ports in your firewall. Check the official costumer support forum.

[Kaianna]

Seconding the careful with overlevelling to start with. I accidentally out leveled most of Taris :(
Levels out around 20ish though.


Also, LOVE my Commando. So versatile....i'm dps specced, but being able to throw heals out on the fly when required is awesome.

[Dregek]

was on my way home from work, knowing that i would have like a 30min server queue i remote desktop'ed and logged in :D walked through the front door to it logging into the server :D

Rolled with a jedi sentinel this time instead of guardian but thinking i should have gone guardian again :/ next will be Trooper i think

[Tyrehl]

was on my way home from work, knowing that i would have like a 30min server queue i remote desktop'ed and logged in :D walked through the front door to it logging into the server :D

Rolled with a jedi sentinel this time instead of guardian but thinking i should have gone guardian again :/ next will be Trooper i think
How did you managed to do it? I know the basics about RDesktop and i tried to walk around the limitations but it didnt work, when i came back home there was no sign of the swtor client at all (i tried to launch the game and drop the connection immediately but :( ).

[Malaes]

EU queues are pretty mental atm =/

[Aramendel]

Well, you wanted to roll on the server with most large guilds ^^

In queue myself now too after a random disconnect. 25 minutes....bah. I hope they improve the servers some more, it would be really annoying if thats gonna to happen regulary.

[Chrien]

Swiftsure, the unofficial Oceanic server had a 2000 queue during most of yesterday afternoon/evening. When I went to bed at 1am I logged out to check the queue and it was 183. Now logging in at 8:30am and its already 400... lol

[Jags]

Was talk on the server today that they are running at well under 50% capacity until release day so as to try and spread people about when they get pissed at huge queues

in other words

GTFO BLOODWORTHY

Thanks

[Aramendel]

Like 2/3rds of all EU servers seem to be full or very heavy though.

It kinda sucks that US has like 2 times the amount of servers.

[Chrien]

Well they would have looked at their metrics and determined that they have a much larger US player base. The US servers are pretty much all full during prime time as well so its a universal problem. I'd be surprised if the capcity is 50%, not saying they can't increase it but I would be surprised if its half, that just seems wishful thinking.

[Armyofme]

Well, im a EU player, but i rolled on a US server just so i avoid all those full servers during my primetime =)

[noobcake]

lol slicing needs a good, hard nerf. Ive been slicing for the better part of the evening, and the below image is typical of the results im getting for 230 credit missions

http://i.imgur.com/SGFzy.png

[jbend9620]

slicing - is that supposed to be skinning with lightsabers or something?

[Fitzy]

Is it normal for mmoga to ask for a scan of your passport to confirm an order? :|

[Spaztick]

slicing - is that supposed to be skinning with lightsabers or something?

slicing = hacking

[DevilDude]

lol slicing needs a good, hard nerf. Ive been slicing for the better part of the evening, and the below image is typical of the results im getting for 230 credit missions

http://i.imgur.com/SGFzy.png

maybe maybe not, all the crafting skills need two gathering skills, and slicing doesn't actually feed any of them, we'll have to see weather it can compensate for not having all the gathering skills you need. Right now it really hurts cause the markets aren't moving.

[noobcake]

maybe maybe not, all the crafting skills need two gathering skills, and slicing doesn't actually feed any of them, we'll have to see weather it can compensate for not having all the gathering skills you need. Right now it really hurts cause the markets aren't moving.

idk about you, but i have slicing and scavenging...i have a decent amount of parts coming in from the scavenging missions as well...

[pratell]

Is it normal for mmoga to ask for a scan of your passport to confirm an order? :|

lol and people bitched about origin

[Chrien]

I had slicing but had to drop it for investigations to support my Armstech, otherwise I couldn't make blue or above weapons due to lack of Research Compounds :(

[Malaes]

300+ is what they were at in Beta, and I can see them returning to that in a few days when they feel the load is enough.

Coruscant on Frostclaw has nearly 200 in it right now.

Whats your char's name?

[Daco]

Just got the Imperial Agents Ship....... DAMN that is an awesome looking ship :D

[noobcake]

I had slicing but had to drop it for investigations to support my Armstech, otherwise I couldn't make blue or above weapons due to lack of Research Compounds :(

yeh i was thinking about making my 3 spec professions be something i could craft off with straight away...turns out when I joined my guild (full of Eve friends) they have a p good system in play with regards to moving resources around to where they need to go.

I finally decided to go Armormech, Slicing, Scavenging

[Aramendel]

maybe maybe not, all the crafting skills need two gathering skills, and slicing doesn't actually feed any of them, we'll have to see weather it can compensate for not having all the gathering skills you need. Right now it really hurts cause the markets aren't moving.

The problem is that crew skills have no level requirement whatsoever.

So you can just make an alt in a few hours till you have your first companion (or a day to get the ship with the droid too) and just keep them doing slicing missions. At high levels those take some time so you can easily keep it up while playing with your main.

[noobcake]

maybe maybe not, all the crafting skills need two gathering skills, and slicing doesn't actually feed any of them, we'll have to see weather it can compensate for not having all the gathering skills you need. Right now it really hurts cause the markets aren't moving.

The problem is that crew skills have no level requirement whatsoever.

So you can just make an alt in a few hours till you have your first companion (or a day to get the ship with the droid too) and just keep them doing slicing missions. At high levels those take some time so you can easily keep it up while playing with your main.


no level req? you need to be level 10 to get them...while it isnt difficult to get there, it's a load of cutscenes, and bullshit missions to get there. Also, while I *do* agree that slicing needs to be fixed, what do you propose be done to fix it? If you limit it to levels, you need to limit all the crew skills to specific levels, otherwise slicing becomes a non-desirable skill.

[Sirial Soulfly]

Well credits before crafting imo, broke 100 k will be able to easily afford a mount and whatever my heart desires :P
Can always lvl some other crafting skills later on another character.

[Aramendel]

no level req? you need to be level 10 to get them...while it isnt difficult to get there, it's a load of cutscenes, and bullshit missions to get there. Also, while I *do* agree that slicing needs to be fixed, what do you propose be done to fix it? If you limit it to levels, you need to limit all the crew skills to specific levels, otherwise slicing becomes a non-desirable skill.

Firstly, no, you can go up to imperial fleet at level 1 and pick them up. You can only do missions when you get you companion, though.

And cutscenes are skippable with the space bar.

It is no issue whatsoever to get your companion in 2-3 hours, or your ship in a day. I know because I did this very thing. And, yes, all crew skills should be limited with the level. Within a reasonable amount, like that you can do the next braket of skills while you are lvl wise still in the first.

As it is right now the best combination for the maximum money and crafting gain would be to have your main with a crafting skill and 2 gathering skills and 1-2 alts with mission skills and slicing.

[noobcake]

you gunna run those slicing missions with no companion? you need to complete a good portion of of "carrot-on-a-stick" missions to get a companion bro

[Aramendel]

you gunna run those slicing missions with no companion? you need to complete a good portion of of "carrot-on-a-stick" missions to get a companion bro

Copy-paste: It is no issue whatsoever to get your companion in 2-3 hours.

Also, there are two starting planets. Unless you already played in the beta you can do completely new content with your slicing/mission alt. So what is your point exactly?

[noobcake]

oh look we've drifted from the part of this debate where you propose that the skills be somehow level-restricted. I actually never did see a proposal from you about why/how the skills should be level-based. In theory it's a good idea, but in practice it just leads to more "fuck, more grinding to unlock shit" behavior from an industry thats already full of an attitude that thinks that "unlocking" is the best way to promote interaction.

[Aramendel]

oh look we've drifted from the part of this debate where you propose that the skills be somehow level-restricted. I actually never did see a proposal from you about why/how the skills should be level-based. In theory it's a good idea, but in practice it just leads to more "fuck, more grinding to unlock shit" behavior from an industry thats already full of an attitude that thinks that "unlocking" is the best way to promote interaction.

What "more grinding" exactly?

In WoW it is exactly like that (crafting skill ranges being level restricted) and I *never* experienced any "fuck, more grinding" moments regarding those limitations. This is because (on a char you actually play) it makes no sense to level up a skill to produce items far above your level range, because a) you cannot use them and b) you cannot afford to level it up that far.

The only situation where this matters is if you want to create pure crafting skill alts which supply your main character. Why is in the end counterproductive to the gameplay and something Bioware does not want either. Otherwise they wouldn't have given us a 3 crew skill limitation per character to begin with.
Or if you want to use a crafting skill (and it's resulting money earning capabilities) at max level while you are still far below. But do you really need be drawn a diagram why this is bad? It makes costs in the game before 50 (and possibly then as well depending how broken slicing then still is) a non-issue. In other words, it wrecks the economy because it makes the moneysinks ineffective. And it makes that skill a "must-have".

[Space Panda]

hey dudes, so were the rumors regarding the legacy system true? as in they removed some initial character customization options, setting them aside for "legacy unlock"? i can't verify because i'm in fucking italy on "vacation". so mad.

please tell me it just regards the stupid surname.

[Hels]

Well I guess I'll try to pick this up tomorrow. Origin seems to hate me.

[mira o'karr]

any one know if or how i can fast travel to my ship?

[Spaztick]

any one know if or how i can fast travel to my ship?

Bind to spaceport. Walk to ship.

[Aramendel]

hey dudes, so were the rumors regarding the legacy system true? as in they removed some initial character customization options, setting them aside for "legacy unlock"? i can't verify because i'm in fucking italy on "vacation". so mad.

please tell me it just regards the stupid surname.

It has its own experience bar and they said you will unlock features in time (and they will add more). What those exactly are is relatively unknown. At least I haven't seen a dev post with definite info. I might have missed one though.

In short:
Unlock character customization options: Maybe. Although I doubt that (assuming I understand you correctly and you mean new hairstyles, etc), I would rather think its stuff which benefits existing characters.
Just a stupid surname: Definitely not, it is a good deal more than that.


any one know if or how i can fast travel to my ship?

The fastest way is likely the emergency fleet pass, but that has a 18 hour cooldown.

[Daco]

ToR CD Just arrived \o/ I'm impressed Bioware when I first ordered it I didn't think it would get here on the 20th but it has and I'm in New Zealand \o/

Now I've got to try and get the cardboard box concealing the CD open

Also 3 discs 0.o.....

EDIT: lol It asked me if I wanted to install Origin HAH

[ElweSingollo]

And thats it servers are down for maintenance and when they are back up tommorrow the hordes will overwhelm us thank god I made it as far as Nar Shaddaa with my Sentinal ;).

[Mavolio]

they are adding a lot of new servers during the down time. Apparently there are currently 1 million people playing and they expect 1.5 million people after official launch so i wouldn't be shocked to see 50% more servers when hey are back up.

[Daco]

So I thought even though there is a DT I would just launch the game anyway, but once it had gotten through the intro movie the game crashed, is this because of the DT?

I had early access and never did that so I am wondering if it is an effect of the current DT.

[Loganbacca]

Made it to Balmorra with my Bounty Hunter, and almost finished Tython with my Consular.

Glad I rolled on a RP server, haven't had any queue issues or bad lag. I'm generally at work during US prime time, although over the weekend it wasn't an issue either.


ToR CD Just arrived \o/ I'm impressed Bioware when I first ordered it I didn't think it would get here on the 20th but it has and I'm in New Zealand \o/

Now I've got to try and get the cardboard box concealing the CD open

Also 3 discs 0.o.....

EDIT: lol It asked me if I wanted to install Origin HAH

Which means mine has also arrived, yay.

Fun fact: Daco and I ordered it at the same time, separately, with delivery to the same location (ordered separately due to being unsure whether they would send 1 or 2 pre-order codes). Both orders left the warehouse at the same time (presumably on the same truck). Daco's order was then sent via Los Angeles, mine was sent via New York. They arrived in the country and then in the local are about 3 hours apart, but were delivered the following day to our house by the same local courier.

[Hels]

Well leaving tomorrow morning for two days so if it ain't in the store tonight then I'll check on Thursday. v0v

[Sandzibar]

bleh queue for lettow at 8am. thats not fun :(

[Sirial Soulfly]

bleh queue for lettow at 8am. thats not fun :(

I had the same queue of 140 ish people, finally logged in after 40 minutes press a button and bam disconnected, no grace period and now in queue for the 2nd time with a queue of 220 people =/

[mira o'karr]

how retarded are BW/EA?

they launch this game over christmas, a time where literally every one has plenty of time to play, they knew exactly how many preorders they had and probably also knew how many shop copies had sold for launch day without "early start".

and what happens... i cant even log in any more early in the morning cause there is a queue now where during early start there wasnt.

this is either a) exceptionally stupid planning or b) pure greed (we gotz your monies, screw you and wait. we ll scrape by on bare minimum servers)

[DevilDude]

how retarded are BW/EA?

they launch this game over christmas, a time where literally every one has plenty of time to play, they knew exactly how many preorders they had and probably also knew how many shop copies had sold for launch day without "early start".

and what happens... i cant even log in any more early in the morning cause there is a queue now where during early start there wasnt.

this is either a) exceptionally stupid planning or b) pure greed (we gotz your monies, screw you and wait. we ll scrape by on bare minimum servers)
maybe they're trying to avoid the thing that's happened to every triple A mmo since WoW where they have a huge spike, spend hundreds of thousands building a shitton of infrastructure, only to have it be worthless in two months.

[Sirial Soulfly]

To be fair it can not be easy to manage something that is as fickle as a human population on a server, it is far from static.
People have friends they want to join a few days later that kind of thing.
I did read a post Bioware stated they would raise capacity for full servers over the next few days.
Having said that yes it sucks to be in the queue. =(

[pratell]

how retarded are BW/EA?

they launch this game over christmas, a time where literally every one has plenty of time to play, they knew exactly how many preorders they had and probably also knew how many shop copies had sold for launch day without "early start".

and what happens... i cant even log in any more early in the morning cause there is a queue now where during early start there wasnt.

this is either a) exceptionally stupid planning or b) pure greed (we gotz your monies, screw you and wait. we ll scrape by on bare minimum servers)
maybe they're trying to avoid the thing that's happened to every triple A mmo since WoW where they have a huge spike, spend hundreds of thousands building a shitton of infrastructure, only to have it be worthless in two months.'cause it's so damn hard to rent/lease server capacity.

[Daco]

Yay for AU TZ and no waiting in CUE \o/

[Malaes]

Yay for AU TZ and no waiting in CUE \o/

300 queue on my server (eu) :( Guess I need to get up even earlier!

[Tyrehl]

350 queue in 11:30 in the morning. Dont these people have like, work?

[Spawinte]

This game is getting enough attention that it was even being discussed on the newstalk show I listen to in the evening. So is it good or shit or what?


Dont these people have like, work?

We've had this world crisis thing going on for 3 years now. An awful lot of people don't.

[Warpath]

350 queue in 11:30 in the morning. Dont these people have like, work?


Schools have broken up for Christmas now..

[Skeptic]

No queue here, right in. Pretty fukken good for 4 hrs in on launch day if you ask me.

[lubica]

Most of my retarded mates have decided to roll on the 2nd most populated EU PVP English server with 70+ min waittimes during early access prime-time. It had 15 mins wait time at 8:45 am today... Have I mentioned how most of my mates playing this seem to be retarded? And I'm supposed to drop my lvl 26 jugg with 150k creds and mostly moddable gear for that? Fuck that.

On a side note, just got force choke and force push in the last 2 levels and holy shit, this is pure win! Jump into a pack of bitches, 2-shot the first 2 or 3, kill 2 more to get jump rdy again, push the last guy once hes below 20% and jump on him for the KB. rawr!

Also, dunno about other classes, but this class quest stuff is really well made. Combined with the music, I'm literally getting goosebumps at times :D

[Loganbacca]

Not sure what it's like on other servers, but it looks like augments are practically worthless, whereas underworld metals cost a small fortune, yay slicing. I have since dropped slicing and picked up underworld trading so I can properly craft.

If I understand correctly, custom (fully moddable) items cannot be crafted? Are they vendor/reward only?

[ElweSingollo]

Looks like they added a few more servers see about another 10 that are all light population but my server has a q of 40 odds not too bad I suppose.

[Malaes]

If I understand correctly, custom (fully moddable) items cannot be crafted? Are they vendor/reward only?

If you mean the orange items with 3 mods slots and nothing else (in terms of armour) then you can craft them

[Mangala Solaris]

If I understand correctly, custom (fully moddable) items cannot be crafted? Are they vendor/reward only?

If you mean the orange items with 3 mods slots and nothing else (in terms of armour) then you can craft them

+1.

Been crafting a couple of droid customs on my Cybertech, and my Synth will be able to do them at some stage too.

[lubica]

Not sure what it's like on other servers, but it looks like augments are practically worthless, whereas underworld metals cost a small fortune, yay slicing. I have since dropped slicing and picked up underworld trading so I can properly craft.

If I understand correctly, custom (fully moddable) items cannot be crafted? Are they vendor/reward only?
Why the hell would you do augment missions, if you can do lockbox missions. lvl 6 Slicing mission cost me 2,5k to start, takes ~30mins, I get 2k back as the crappiest possible result aside from failing, up to and including a blue lockbox with up to 10k credits + blue/purple mission to sell and possibly also an augment (talking about both extreme ends of the spectrum). Lvl 26 atm with 150k credits and I drive a speeder (48k spent) and 7 moddable items now, half of them bought along the way.

[Aramendel]

I did read a post Bioware stated they would raise capacity for full servers over the next few days.

I think they are already doing that. Kinda.

When I logged in in Dormund Kaas after a 20 min queue (which was more like 40 min) there were relatively few people online there compared to yesterday late evening when there was no queue. Sure, maybe a lot of people in the starting zones - except people report that there aren't that many there either.

So I suspect there are keeping the older shards at an artificially low pop cap to encourage more now players *not* to pick them. Also, later I got disconnected (yay!) and was in a 300 people queue. However when I tabbed in a few minutes after I checked last and was on #150 I was in my login screen - which shouldn't have happened that fast. In the forums I read a post of someone claiming he suddenly skipped a 300er queue.

So I think they are increasing the cap already, although it is likely that is only the artificially low cap getting increased to the previously normal amount.

[Aramendel]

If I understand correctly, custom (fully moddable) items cannot be crafted? Are they vendor/reward only?

If you mean the orange items with 3 mods slots and nothing else (in terms of armour) then you can craft them

Also, to add on this, only those craftable ones have AFAIK as critical success an augment slot. So they are actually the best items in the game right now (sans possible operation loot).

[lubica]

I swear that EU servers have even lower capacity at launch than in early access, ffs.

[Donte]

how is the launch today for us servers?

thinking of getting this on the way home from work today.

[Wrack]

I don't know about today, but I got back onto my US east server right after the launch downtime last night (11 pm for me, still primetime-ish) and ran an instance with no trouble.

I'm willing to bet that the newbie planets will actually be quieter this week than they were in early access. Everyone who preordered was playing by friday, and people who didn't preorder will be trickling in gradually, rather than all slamming the servers today. The real test will be this weekend, probably.

Also, highly important protip: get slicing. Everyone needs slicing. It trivializes all of the credit sinks in the game while you level, and once you're a millionaire (literally), you can drop it and get whatever third crew skill you actually want for crafting.

[Dregek]

so do you send off companions to run slicing missions to make a lot of credits or something?

[Jags]

Fucking shambles , still trying to get onto Bloodworthy after 2 hours and in still 800 in the queue.

If its as bad tomorrow im rerolling onto a quiet server fuck this shit.

Also their customer service is worse than CCP , never thought it would be possible

[Mangala Solaris]

Got DC'd to server select, got into queue at 900, after 45minutes its just under half way thru, actually moving faster than I thought it would.

Considering 2hrs ago same thing happened to me and I got in in 10mins instead. (All this is on Frostclaw btw)

And Dregek, slicing if done right is the best earner right now, totally nerfworthy broken.

[Tyrehl]

Can someone teach me how to slice properly for credits? I made an alt and will be slicing with it soon. Halp

[Loganbacca]

If I understand correctly, custom (fully moddable) items cannot be crafted? Are they vendor/reward only?

If you mean the orange items with 3 mods slots and nothing else (in terms of armour) then you can craft them

Cool, ok.
So how do you go about getting the schematics for them? So far I've only got premium schematics from the crew skills vendor and prototype versions from reverse engineering said premium items. Where else can you get them from? Armortech in particular.

Also, I found I was losing more credits than gaining when running slicing (lockbox) missions. Most of the time the box would give me less than the mission cost, and the good lockbox drops were offset by failed attempts. Whats the secret? Do you get more reliable drops from running yellow difficulty missions than running orange difficulty missions?

For reference I currently have a level 16 BH, with slicing at 120. Yes I've been playing it since last Friday and yes I know I'm slow.

[Malaes]

If I understand correctly, custom (fully moddable) items cannot be crafted? Are they vendor/reward only?

If you mean the orange items with 3 mods slots and nothing else (in terms of armour) then you can craft them

So how do you go about getting the schematics for them?

Drops or reverse engineering blues, the latter probably really isn't worth it though. As you have no real trouble getting orange gear from badges.

[Chrien]

Slicing makes money in this game ridiculous, not sure what they were thinking.

[Daco]

Slicing makes money in this game ridiculous, not sure what they were thinking.

Yeah I'm waiting for the nerf and then all the rage, it will be glorious :lol:

[Jags]

Rerolled to The Exiles Crystal if anyone is on there look me up , same name as here :D

Raced through Korriban in about 2 hours ready to queue tomorrow night again :(

[Wrack]

Can someone teach me how to slice properly for credits? I made an alt and will be slicing with it soon. Halp


Also, I found I was losing more credits than gaining when running slicing (lockbox) missions. Most of the time the box would give me less than the mission cost, and the good lockbox drops were offset by failed attempts. Whats the secret? Do you get more reliable drops from running yellow difficulty missions than running orange difficulty missions?

- Obviously only do lockbox missions, not augments
- Never run orange missions, they have a high failure percentage
- The best paying missions are not the highest class ones, but rather the highest yield ones. Class is selected in the dropdown menu in the top right. Yield is Rich > Bountiful > Abundant > Moderate. If you don't have any rich or abundant available, just pick any yellow mission, you'll get a skillup and if lucky at least break even.
- From the start until about 150 slicing, it will seem like you mostly break even. It's no big deal, once you get to the 150-200 range, you'll have rich missions available more often and will start to really make bank.
- As your slicing approaches 400, you'll see these missions, which are the endgame of slicing: class 5 rich lockbox, class 4 bountiful lockbox, class 3 rich lockbox. The first is obviously the best, the latter two seem about equal in average profit.

[Chrien]

Can you have crew missions going on two chars at once? Because they do run when your offline.

[Daco]

Why has the server I have been playing on gone from Light load all the time to suddenly full??? Has Bioware like cut the limit to 20 people or something.

[Aramendel]

Can someone teach me how to slice properly for credits? I made an alt and will be slicing with it soon. Halp


Also, I found I was losing more credits than gaining when running slicing (lockbox) missions. Most of the time the box would give me less than the mission cost, and the good lockbox drops were offset by failed attempts. Whats the secret? Do you get more reliable drops from running yellow difficulty missions than running orange difficulty missions?

- Obviously only do lockbox missions, not augments
- Never run orange missions, they have a high failure percentage
- The best paying missions are not the highest class ones, but rather the highest yield ones. Class is selected in the dropdown menu in the top right. Yield is Rich > Bountiful > Abundant > Moderate. If you don't have any rich or abundant available, just pick any yellow mission, you'll get a skillup and if lucky at least break even.
- From the start until about 150 slicing, it will seem like you mostly break even. It's no big deal, once you get to the 150-200 range, you'll have rich missions available more often and will start to really make bank.
- As your slicing approaches 400, you'll see these missions, which are the endgame of slicing: class 5 rich lockbox, class 4 bountiful lockbox, class 3 rich lockbox. The first is obviously the best, the latter two seem about equal in average profit.

Good advice, although even by always picking the highest skill slicing missions (focus on getting it up fast) I had no issues with making good money with slicing.

With these tactics, how do you get "new" missions? Basically, if you have missions you do not like, what is the best way to remove them? Apart from doing them of course.
Like, if you have bad lvl 5 missions, when/how do you get new ones except by doing them?

[lubica]

Can someone teach me how to slice properly for credits? I made an alt and will be slicing with it soon. Halp


Also, I found I was losing more credits than gaining when running slicing (lockbox) missions. Most of the time the box would give me less than the mission cost, and the good lockbox drops were offset by failed attempts. Whats the secret? Do you get more reliable drops from running yellow difficulty missions than running orange difficulty missions?

- Obviously only do lockbox missions, not augments
- Never run orange missions, they have a high failure percentage
- The best paying missions are not the highest class ones, but rather the highest yield ones. Class is selected in the dropdown menu in the top right. Yield is Rich > Bountiful > Abundant > Moderate. If you don't have any rich or abundant available, just pick any yellow mission, you'll get a skillup and if lucky at least break even.
- From the start until about 150 slicing, it will seem like you mostly break even. It's no big deal, once you get to the 150-200 range, you'll have rich missions available more often and will start to really make bank.
- As your slicing approaches 400, you'll see these missions, which are the endgame of slicing: class 5 rich lockbox, class 4 bountiful lockbox, class 3 rich lockbox. The first is obviously the best, the latter two seem about equal in average profit.

Good advice, although even by always picking the highest skill slicing missions (focus on getting it up fast) I had no issues with making good money with slicing.

With these tactics, how do you get "new" missions? Basically, if you have missions you do not like, what is the best way to remove them? Apart from doing them of course.
Like, if you have bad lvl 5 missions, when/how do you get new ones except by doing them?

questing at lvl 10-16 in a slicing rich zone (rogue Sith complex in the south on Dromund Kaas if you're Empire) and picking up all the boxes is also good for a couple of resons:
- free creds and skillup
- more creds and some xp from killing all the shit standing around the slice boxes
It really helps getting over the 150 skill hump described above. Although, I always sent them on the rich yield orange difficulty missions, risk/reward is p.good imho.

e: if you get bad top-level missions, just do a rich one from a lower level, I've noticed missions get refreshed fairly often, might be connected to zoning, no idea tbh

[Shade Millith]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/12/star-wars-the-old-republic-finally-gets-an-australian-release-date/


“We can confirm that Star Wars: The Old Republic will be launching in Australia and New Zealand in the spring of 2012,” he posted.

“Right now we are targeting March 1st, but that could change as our number one priority is making sure that customers have a great service to play on.”

:lolaustralia:

Now I'm scared that Aus/NZ is going to be region locked into Australasia servers.

[ElweSingollo]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/12/star-wars-the-old-republic-finally-gets-an-australian-release-date/


“We can confirm that Star Wars: The Old Republic will be launching in Australia and New Zealand in the spring of 2012,” he posted.

“Right now we are targeting March 1st, but that could change as our number one priority is making sure that customers have a great service to play on.”

:lolaustralia:

Now I'm scared that Aus/NZ is going to be region locked into Australasia servers.

doubt thats gonna happen tbh since eu can play on us and us can play on eu servers if they really want too so see no reason they would lock out the lolstralia/nz servers from others or indeed make you play on them unless you want to play there.

[Loganbacca]

Australia and New Zealand

spring of 2012

March 1st

Don't they mean Autumn 2012?

I would be surprised if they region lock us, seeing as US/EU are free to use servers on either continent, they just warn you that "you may get more lag".

I would also be interested in what sort of numbers of AU/NZ players they have currently, and whether that had a bearing on how fast/slow the release over here would be.

[Daco]

I'm in NZ already on a West Coast server and I have no troubles so when it "launches" over here I won't be swapping.

[Chrien]

If they haven't region locked EU to EU and NA to NA why would they do it to Oceania?

Edit: The Swiftsure has nasty queues (its the unofficial Oceanic PVP server), during early access it got over 1800 at one point. Today when I logged in the middle of US prime time it was 1080. An hour later still got 400 spots to go...

[DevilDude]

If they haven't region locked EU to EU and NA to NA why would they do it to Oceania?

Edit: The Swiftsure has nasty queues (its the unofficial Oceanic PVP server), during early access it got over 1800 at one point. Today when I logged in the middle of US prime time it was 1080. An hour later still got 400 spots to go...
possibly due to australia's insane laws regarding games, the only reason I can see for them to be delaying release in two countries that are English language speaking already is that they need to tweak the content for the rating they want.

[Chrien]

Theres nothign in swtor that would come even remotly close to that.

[Malaes]

If they haven't region locked EU to EU and NA to NA why would they do it to Oceania?

Edit: The Swiftsure has nasty queues (its the unofficial Oceanic PVP server), during early access it got over 1800 at one point. Today when I logged in the middle of US prime time it was 1080. An hour later still got 400 spots to go...
possibly due to australia's insane laws regarding games, the only reason I can see for them to be delaying release in two countries that are English language speaking already is that they need to tweak the content for the rating they want.

They could be planning to stick physical servers in aus, hence the long wait?

[Aramendel]

I doubt that setting up servers would take so long. And even if that would be the case, why they only started doing so so late.

[VARRAKK]

Bloodworthy (EU), spend about 2h 10m in queue, played for 20min. Disconnected, 1h 55m in queue

:rage:

[Calks]

Just checked origin store and apparently both of the digital versions available for download have soldout...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/154/origin1.jpg

:psyduck:

[Daco]

Just checked origin store and apparently both of the digital versions available for download have soldout...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/154/origin1.jpg

:psyduck:

How does something that is Digital get soldout??

That doesn't even make sence.

[Skeptic]

Bloodworthy (EU), spend about 2h 10m in queue, played for 20min. Disconnected, 1h 55m in queue

:rage:

If you are running with Zonealarm or similar disable before playing, similar problems have been widely reported in this and also previously, frequently in wow.

[Warpath]

Bloodworthy (EU), spend about 2h 10m in queue, played for 20min. Disconnected, 1h 55m in queue

:rage:


Bioware don't give a shit about the queues shocker?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/21/bioware-swtor-queues-are-here-to-stay/#more-86695

[Aramendel]

Bloodworthy (EU), spend about 2h 10m in queue, played for 20min. Disconnected, 1h 55m in queue

:rage:

If you are running with Zonealarm or similar disable before playing, similar problems have been widely reported in this and also previously, frequently in wow.

Yes, if you get disconnected with a 9000 error you need to open a bunch of ports in your firewall, removed the majority of my disconnects. There is a post in the support forum which tells you which ones exactly.


How does something that is Digital get soldout??

That doesn't even make sence.

Server capacity issues maybe. Basically "Lets wait a bit till we have more servers before we sell more".

[Winged Nazgul]

How does something that is Digital get soldout??

That doesn't even make sence.

Normally, I would agree. But the insane queues and their unwillingness to add more servers makes this a common-sense move.

[Calks]

How does something that is Digital get soldout??

That doesn't even make sence.

Who knows.

With all this queueing maybe they are trying to lessen/balance/regulate server load? I mean who would've anticipated a large demand for the biggest new MMO for a while, and one with Star Wars IP no less...

Guess I'm going shopping on my lunchbreak to see if the shops have it.

[Donte]

How does something that is Digital get soldout??

That doesn't even make sence.

Who knows.

With all this queueing maybe they are trying to lessen/balance/regulate server load? I mean who would've anticipated a large demand for the biggest new MMO for a while, and one with Star Wars IP no less...

Guess I'm going shopping on my lunchbreak to see if the shops have it.

could be that they simply ran out of codes.

game developers routinely underestimate the initial popularity of their game. i can see it if they only made some 2 million codes total and slotted a million for digital and the rest for hardcopy sales (for example).

this game is going to be huge initialy and i doubt seriously the folks responsible have made adiquate plans for its popularity.

[Alistair]

Bought yesterday (no pre-order).

Clerk got all snarky and said "Huruph, you're lucky we have a few extra copies".

I lol'd and said "No, actually you;re lucky. If you didn't, you wouldn't be getting my money. Nice customer service though".

U.S. Servers, wait times were short (2 min max, many serves with low or no waits), lag was acceptable (but noticeable at times as a slight stutter or delay).

Not a bad rollout for U.S. in my view, seen far far worse.

[Belid Hagen]

Just checked origin store and apparently both of the digital versions available for download have soldout...

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/154/origin1.jpg

:psyduck:

How does something that is Digital get soldout??

That doesn't even make sence.

Server capacity is X. retail boxes shipped are Y, digital sales is Z. when Y+Z = X, you stop selling Z.

At least until capacity increases. I can't believe you guys can be that dumb.

[Calks]

It's a rage thread, clue is in the title. No one said it had to be reasonable. ;)

[Aramendel]

Right now queues are not that bad in the EU, most have none, otherwise mostly less than 30 mins with a couple of exceptions. Guess there were slowly increasing the caps.

[Liare]

im liking the look of this, but does the Origin EULA still go "lol, we own your box now!" ?

[ElweSingollo]

im liking the look of this, but does the Origin EULA still go "lol, we own your box now!" ?

DDE edition can be dl'd I think direct from the SW:Tor website (although that may have only been for early access folks) does not require Origin to be running to play and in fact once installed if you had to install Origin you could easy just delete Origin off your system so...

[Ruri]

Confirming you don't need Origin to run the game. I bought my sub through them online, but I had the game installed from beta. Dunno if they try to include it if you download it from EA, but there's no reason you should have to leave that garbage on your machine once you're done with it.

[Alistair]

Confirming you don't need Origin to run the game.

Physical 3-DVD In-Store Purchase did not require Origin to be downloaded or active.

I play, I no Origin.

[mira o'karr]

fucking awesome. cant log in at all any more... error 1002 previous session still active.
good stuff... i need to contact support... kill me now.

can log in to any light server, just not the one that i have fucking characters on.

[Sparq]

Australian player here. Just got my bounty hunter to 11, chose Powertech and am probably going to push points into the middle damage tree - but I need to look into it. A Powertech clanmate gets top PvP kills and damage most rounds using a combo of flamer and railshot. Gets fucked by any CC though.

Decided to pickup an Imperial Agent as an alt - going to go sniper spec. on that. I'm not too impressed by the bounty hunter story of "rawr, revenge and fame and bitches!" but Imperial agent seems pretty chill. Also, British.

Starting to wish Mako came with a mute button.

Playing on Daragon Trail with my clan: after Warhammer, AION and Rift, fuck playing on any "unofficial" Oceanic servers. My countrymen are either totally retarded or taking up spots in the login queue that I want for myself during Au prime time.

Already thinking of putting another alt onto a light pop. PvE server just so I have something to do when Daragon thinks it'll take half an hour to connect and drops me from queue 10 minutes in for no reason...

It would be nice if they stuck a server or two out here but I'm happy to keep playing on the West Coast.

[Alistair]

By the way, the cover mechanic is absolute shit, I loathe it.

[ElweSingollo]

fucking awesome. cant log in at all any more... error 1002 previous session still active.
good stuff... i need to contact support... kill me now.

can log in to any light server, just not the one that i have fucking characters on.

basically the 1002 error the only way I have found round it is to completely quit right out of the game for about 5-10 mins then log back on and try again not every time but most of the time it seems to reset your q that being said have not had a q tonight so dunno whether they maybe stopped the soft cap on the servers or not?

[Loganbacca]

Playing on Daragon Trail with my clan: after Warhammer, AION and Rift, fuck playing on any "unofficial" Oceanic servers. My countrymen are either totally retarded or taking up spots in the login queue that I want for myself during Au prime time.
^This

Guy's, lets make The Harbinger the unofficial Oceanic PVE server... yea, that sounds like a good plan... Full
No thanks, currently playing on Begeren Colony. People seem pretty chill, no major retards have been sighted yet, and the server population isn't nuts.


On the topics of queues and digital copies running out; they only made limited copies of the game available so they knew they could handle the load, not sure when they're making more available. The queues from yesterday(?) on all the servers have been confirmed to be put in place by BW/EA, that was to try to encourage new players to start characters on the most recent servers. As you would have noticed all the older servers were marked with "Full" and a minimum 5min wait time, which in reality was more like 2mins for servers that were not actually full.

[Cerzi]

So I had a moment of weakness and went to go buy this, and saw



Temporarily Sold Out
New Inventory Coming Soon


For the digital version.

WHAT MADNESS IS THIS

[Daco]

By the way, the cover mechanic is absolute shit, I loathe it.

Tbh I like the Cover system, i am running a Agent spec'd as a sniper and love bringing up my personal shield/rolling behind a rock makes me feel like a pro sniper.

[DevilDude]

So I had a moment of weakness and went to go buy this, and saw



Temporarily Sold Out
New Inventory Coming Soon


For the digital version.

WHAT MADNESS IS THIS

it appears they're being very conservative on infrastructure, so they're purposely limiting sales. It also might be an attempt to do the same thing wow did in the age before digital downloads where the lack of availability actually drove sales.



By the way, the cover mechanic is absolute shit, I loathe it.

Tbh I like the Cover system, i am running a Agent spec'd as a sniper and love bringing up my personal shield/rolling behind a rock makes me feel like a pro sniper.I'm not sold on it, but mainly because of PvP, I don't see how a mechanic requiring you to sit still in order to be effective can be viable.

[mira o'karr]

i dont think i have used cover in pvp at all other than to move quickly to a location when required.

the only thing that is worth using from the cover mechanic is the sabotage charge.
the shot from cover takes way too long to cast and costs too much energy.

can only tell for scoundrel at lvl 27 but if you are relying on the shot from cover you are doing it wrong, could be different for gunslingers.
Dot, blaster whip, kick, shotgun to the face, quick shot,... flashbang when needed, liberal use of "auto" attack and interrupt.
something like this works for me... but then again i m a healer.

also totally loving the stealth aspect. screw cover.

[Aramendel]

By the way, the cover mechanic is absolute shit, I loathe it.

Roll operative AC, that one does not use cover at all anymore.

[DevilDude]

i dont think i have used cover in pvp at all other than to move quickly to a location when required.

the only thing that is worth using from the cover mechanic is the sabotage charge.
the shot from cover takes way too long to cast and costs too much energy.

can only tell for scoundrel at lvl 27 but if you are relying on the shot from cover you are doing it wrong, could be different for gunslingers.
Dot, blaster whip, kick, shotgun to the face, quick shot,... flashbang when needed, liberal use of "auto" attack and interrupt.
something like this works for me... but then again i m a healer.

also totally loving the stealth aspect. screw cover.

was wanting to roll a gunslinger to be like that baws smuggler from the last trailer, I'm hoping they don't rely too much on the cover mechanic, but then they don't get stealth :/

[Dregek]

I'm sooo looking forward to seeing what they do with legacy system, just finished act 1 for jedi knight so starting on the soldier finish him to act 1 then probably change class again

[Helfix]

So have things changed much since beta? Or is everything pretty much same/similar?

[Chrien]

Cover mechanic is not an issue for me as a gunslinger in pvp, I regularly am top on DPS and more importantly, killing blows. I destroy shit so fast its ridiculous.

As for the unofficial oceanic server, its purely a timezone thing, if you want to raid you need to be able to play at a time when theres other people on, if you can play during the day then server is not an issue but if you can only play during the evenings you really want to be on a server with a good population in your time zone.

[DevilDude]

So have things changed much since beta? Or is everything pretty much same/similar?

Depends on what build, the last build was similar, but the crafting system has basically been fixed so there's that.

[Hels]

Gonna start tonight and play over the holiday.

Have not touched the game until now.

What should I do? I think I want to do dark side first. Post away! :D

[lubica]

Gonna start tonight and play over the holiday.

Have not touched the game until now.

What should I do? I think I want to do dark side first. Post away! :D

No clue mate, everything looks fun, tanking included, although playing any of the Sith classes may result in uncontrollable bursts of evil maniacal laughter. See your physician/psychiatrist if that bothers you.

[pratell]

dark side is all fucking red and has horrible dialogue unless you want to play that character that is cartoon evil-for-evil's-sake

edit:
that is to say for the two sith characters. the bounty hunter is pretty decent if you simply reframe it from "i'm going to spend my first 20 levels hunting down a guy who killed this other guy who i knew for basically about 2 minutes" into "i am going to spend my first 20 levels hunting down a guy who killed this other guy so i can fuck mako."

also BH has two best companions, mako for slicing $$$ and blizz for HILARITY ENSUES

[noobcake]

Gonna start tonight and play over the holiday.

Have not touched the game until now.

What should I do? I think I want to do dark side first. Post away! :D

The clear way to go, according to just about every game of PVP I've been apart of: some sort of force sensitive faggotry.

I don't think I've played a game yet where the entire field, sans a handful of people, are fucking Jedi/Sith

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[Kaianna]

In regards to the cover specs (Gunslinger and Sniper) in PvP, i definitely see no cause for concern.

Yes, they are less mobile by their nature. And the probably need a bit more brainpower compared to say a Trooper or Bountyhunter to get the most out of them.

On the other hand, the half decent players i've seen with them ALWAYS compete for the top spots for damage and kills. They do so much damage, so fast, from so far away it's insane. If they are smart about positioning, they are little turrets of death with a 35m radius.

[Kaianna]

Gonna start tonight and play over the holiday.

Have not touched the game until now.

What should I do? I think I want to do dark side first. Post away! :D

The clear way to go, according to just about every game of PVP I've been apart of: some sort of force sensitive faggotry.

I don't think I've played a game yet where the entire field, sans a handful of people, are fucking Jedi/Sith

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Yeah, but they all suck. My Commando fucking burns Sith down all day long.

"Hey look, Trooper! Force leap!!!!!!"
*RAPE*
"But....i'm a Sith :("

[noobcake]

Yeah, but they all suck. My Commando fucking burns Sith down all day long.

"Hey look, Trooper! Force leap!!!!!!"
*RAPE*
"But....i'm a Sith :("


Oh I'm not saying force sensitive faggots are OP, just that it seems to be the way everyone is rolling because of "OMGLIGHTSABERSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!1111!!!!!1!ONE!!1!!1"

It's really amazing how many people will forego good classes/abilities to swing a light sword on their computer.


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[Kaianna]

Yeah, but they all suck. My Commando fucking burns Sith down all day long.

"Hey look, Trooper! Force leap!!!!!!"
*RAPE*
"But....i'm a Sith :("


Oh I'm not saying force sensitive faggots are OP, just that it seems to be the way everyone is rolling because of "OMGLIGHTSABERSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!1111!!!!!1!ONE!!1!!1"

It's really amazing how many people will forego good classes/abilities to swing a light sword on their computer.


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Oh I know, and I totally agree. Me (Commando) and my brother (Gunslinger) are often the only 2 non-Jedi on our team.
I see a fair amount of Bounty Hunters on Empire side mind you, it's not quite as bad as Republic where 9/10 are fucking robe wearing glow stick lovers.

[noobcake]

Oh I know, and I totally agree. Me (Commando) and my brother (Gunslinger) are often the only 2 non-Jedi on our team.
I see a fair amount of Bounty Hunters on Empire side mind you, it's not quite as bad as Republic where 9/10 are fucking robe wearing glow stick lovers.

I am truly in love with my Powertech Bounty Hunter. I've been pouring my points into the middle tree, because it's the absolute best. I laugh at the Powertechs who equip any other cylinder but Ion Gas. Also, death from above, truly awesome for whoring onto PVP kills :D


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[Daco]

SERVERS ARE DOWWWWWNNNNNNNN

[lubica]

fucking zavvi

I pre-ordered from their page on Dec 1st. On the 'confirm order' page they listed delivery times of 2-3 days, which is standard tbh. On Sunday(!) 18th, I get an e-mail saying they shipped my copy and that it should arrive within 5-7 days. I wrote back that I really want the game on my doorstep on the 22nd, coz otherwise fuck pre-ordering if it's gonna be late. I got a nice reply today, completely ignoring my request for a shipment tracking number with their courier and saying that I should allow for a delivery time of 21 days.

fucking zavvi, I bet they're all chavs

[noobcake]

fucking zavvi

I pre-ordered from their page on Dec 1st. On the 'confirm order' page they listed delivery times of 2-3 days, which is standard tbh. On Sunday(!) 18th, I get an e-mail saying they shipped my copy and that it should arrive within 5-7 days. I wrote back that I really want the game on my doorstep on the 22nd, coz otherwise fuck pre-ordering if it's gonna be late. I got a nice reply today, completely ignoring my request for a shipment tracking number with their courier and saying that I should allow for a delivery time of 21 days.

fucking zavvi, I bet they're all chavs

lol who the fuck orders physical copies anymore? fyi, the in-game items you get for the physical edition....they suck dick.

[VARRAKK]

I've been playing some, I still think the game is shit.
Basically wow with glowsticks.

Who the fuck said the story was good?
FYI, whoever you are, it is SHIT.
As Sith, and Sith in general being evil.
You have to pick the most evil dialog options and always kill showing now mercy.
Because the whole storyline is written for 12 year olds.

One thing is certain. I'm not gonna sub this game after my 30days over.

[lubica]

fucking zavvi

I pre-ordered from their page on Dec 1st. On the 'confirm order' page they listed delivery times of 2-3 days, which is standard tbh. On Sunday(!) 18th, I get an e-mail saying they shipped my copy and that it should arrive within 5-7 days. I wrote back that I really want the game on my doorstep on the 22nd, coz otherwise fuck pre-ordering if it's gonna be late. I got a nice reply today, completely ignoring my request for a shipment tracking number with their courier and saying that I should allow for a delivery time of 21 days.

fucking zavvi, I bet they're all chavs

lol who the fuck orders physical copies anymore? fyi, the in-game items you get for the physical edition....they suck dick.

It was a matter of getting the pre-order in at the earliest time possible. Iirc, after the 15th you could get the registration code off several different websites within 10 minutes of ordering or something and I trusted other people that Zavvi would not be shit and would allow me to play without interruptions.

Also, for 40GBP I like to get something I can fucking touch. I still feel bad about shelling 50€ for just a digital copy of bf3 (especially as I haven't played it in over 2 weeks).

[noobcake]

I've been playing some, I still think the game is shit.
Basically wow with glowsticks.

Who the fuck said the story was good?
FYI, whoever you are, it is SHIT.
As Sith, and Sith in general being evil.
You have to pick the most evil dialog options and always kill showing now mercy.
Because the whole storyline is written for 12 year olds.

One thing is certain. I'm not gonna sub this game after my 30days over.

cool story bro...and i've gone almost full dark without killing everyone with conversation options. Cry more you whiny little babby

[noobcake]

Also, for 40GBP I like to get something I can fucking touch. I still feel bad about shelling 50€ for just a digital copy of bf3 (especially as I haven't played it in over 2 weeks).

....you spent 40 dollars so you could have 5 CDs? I mean, some of the physical stuff is nice, but not worth 125 USD or whatever it was you paid in GBP :P My opinion, anyway

[lubica]

Also, for 40GBP I like to get something I can fucking touch. I still feel bad about shelling 50€ for just a digital copy of bf3 (especially as I haven't played it in over 2 weeks).

....you spent 40 dollars so you could have 5 CDs? I mean, some of the physical stuff is nice, but not worth 125 USD or whatever it was you paid in GBP :P My opinion, anyway

40 GBP = ~60USD iirc
Also 5 CDs is still better than just a fucking e-mail. Hell, if they'd have sent me a stupid keyring that some African child-labourer had made for a whopping production cost of 1 cent, I'd still feel a bit better about it, yes.

[Daco]

lol who the fuck orders physical copies anymore? fyi, the in-game items you get for the physical edition....they suck dick.

I had to because I am in NZ and we are red flagged by origin :(

[Space Panda]

Powertech or mercenary.... Such a tough choice!

[Aramendel]

dark side is all fucking red and has horrible dialogue unless you want to play that character that is cartoon evil-for-evil's-sake

TBH the sith force user starting planet is not the best indicator for this, later you get more complex decisions, i.e.:
Some eeebil sith who is rebelling had a bunch of captured (Imperial) soldiers you are searching for turned into robots by extracting their brains and putting them into robot chassis. Which resulted in better combat robots but also very unhappy soldiers (the "I would scream but I have no mouth" scenario). There you have the option to destroy them and end their torment (light) or send them back to your side, since they would be very useful for the empire (dark).

Not saying that there not still some quite stupid dark (and light, for that matter) side options, of course.

Personally I base my operatives decisions on a "what is best for the empire" viewpoint with a bit of a soft spot for the fate of military men and am out of 5000ish points about 50:50 light/dark.

[Warpath]

Looked on games website, and lol at £129.99 for the collectors edition.

http://www.game.co.uk/en/star-wars-the-old-republic-collectors-edition-142985?pageSize=20&searchTerm=the%20old%20republic


:Pisstakemuch:

[lubica]

dark side is all fucking red and has horrible dialogue unless you want to play that character that is cartoon evil-for-evil's-sake

TBH the sith force user starting planet is not the best indicator for this, later you get more complex decisions, i.e.:
Some eeebil sith who is rebelling had a bunch of captured (Imperial) soldiers you are searching for turned into robots by extracting their brains and putting them into robot chassis. Which resulted in better combat robots but also very unhappy soldiers (the "I would scream but I have no mouth" scenario). There you have the option to destroy them and end their torment (light) or send them back to your side, since they would be very useful for the empire (dark).

Not saying that there not still some quite stupid dark (and light, for that matter) side options, of course.

Personally I base my operatives decisions on a "what is best for the empire" viewpoint with a bit of a soft spot for the fate of military men and am out of 5000ish points about 50:50 light/dark.
I base my Juggernaut on bloody murder with extreme prejudice. It does make it a bit tough for my companions to like me though, but I haven't seen a downside to that yet.

[Cirkumflex]

Can't decide whether to get or not. Is the gameplay and content worth 50€?
I want an answer from somebody that isn't :storm-hammer:

[Sandzibar]

quite a few people i know - me included - thought it would be shit.. but it really isnt and you can def get 50euros worth of play out of this mother... its basically mmo kotor with a bit of pvp and group pve stuff thrown in.

"most fun leveling in a mmo since forever"

"space missions are fucking boss, cant wait for my next set of dailies"

"that fight was awesome"

seem to be fairly common comments on TS currently.

[Sirial Soulfly]

A lot of people playing seem to have migrated from wow to this game and have never played kotor 1 & 2.

[mira o'karr]

quite a few people i know - me included - thought it would be shit.. but it really isnt and you can def get 50euros worth of play out of this mother... its basically mmo kotor with a bit of pvp and group pve stuff thrown in.

"most fun leveling in a mmo since forever"

"space missions are fucking boss, cant wait for my next set of dailies"

"that fight was awesome"

seem to be fairly common comments on TS currently.

+1

game is new digital crack

[Fitzy]

Can't decide whether to get or not. Is the gameplay and content worth 50€?
I want an answer from somebody that isn't :storm-hammer:

Ummmm... read the other 21 pages of this thread and the last 10 pages of the previous thread on the game?

[Cirkumflex]

Can't decide whether to get or not. Is the gameplay and content worth 50€?
I want an answer from somebody that isn't :storm-hammer:

Ummmm... read the other 21 pages of this thread and the last 10 pages of the previous thread on the game?
I did read all the pages but was worried this was just another typical MMO launch craze. Even if both O'karr ( IIRC ) and Sandz are storm-hammer wenches I'll listen to the opinions and order now.

[Sparq]

I tried to convince myself it was all about fucking Mako and not avenging Mr 2 Minutes, but I just can't stand the bitch long enough right now.

Also, somehow I got to the Fleet and down onto Dromand Kaas without realising my Bounty Hunter only had 7 Hutta Commendations and I'd forgot to visit the vendor anyway. This was followed by much swearing and 45 long minutes farming for just ... one ... more ... then I had to march/shuttle my butt all the way back to Dromand ...



Switched to my Agent, I much prefer his story & voice acting anyway ... even if it has become a bit loopy now that I'm apparently expected to suckle at Darth Jadus's swollen sith-teat of loyalty-to-his-ego. Fucking Sith, like you have a monopoly on dickish evil. I shoot teenage girls in the face after I make them tell me what I want to know. Don't need no religion, I believe in homicide.



Anyway, I'm annoyed that I have to pump a whole five points into each level of the skill tree. Frankly, I don't want a pissing little 1% accuracy boost just to unlock the next level of stuff. Stupid.

Also annoying: my 1 minute duration droid-sleep skill which is made pointless if my companion takes a flying leap over to the droid and either wakes it right up again or starts focusing it while it rapidly heals back the damage... argh. Especially bad when I'm trying to remove an elite from the fight or playing "how the fuck did we aggro that".



But, all in all a pretty fun game. Really tempted to roll a Jedi on a PvE server just to mess about. I think that might be tomorrow.



Oh, also: MY AGENT UNLOCKED SPRINT, I AM THE MOTHERFUCKING FLASH - or so it feels now.

[Skeptic]

Wanted to have a good session on this today but now have to set up a sub to play my free box time. Now I cannot get on the site because its getting pumped by every other cunt out there :cut:

[Daco]

Wanted to have a good session on this today but now have to set up a sub to play my free box time. Now I cannot get on the site because its getting pumped by every other cunt out there :cut:

I was just attempting to do this as well, no luck at all........

[Skeptic]

Going to go do something else, no point trying to do it now with ther server getting beefed so aggressively.

[Sirial Soulfly]

Wanted to have a good session on this today but now have to set up a sub to play my free box time. Now I cannot get on the site because its getting pumped by every other cunt out there :cut:

Same I like most probably everybody else thought they were fine having paid for the game and having entered the keycode, now servers start up and wtf "there is no active subscription on this account" and now of course the website for setting up a subscription is ddos' by their own customers.

[noobcake]

MY AGENT UNLOCKED SPRINT, I AM THE MOTHERFUCKING FLASH - or so it feels now.

you feel this way for at least 5 or 6 levels after getting it, then you begin to yearn for level 25 so you just get your fucking speeder. If there's one down side to this game, it's that there is entirely too much walking/running.

[mira o'karr]

Can't decide whether to get or not. Is the gameplay and content worth 50€?
I want an answer from somebody that isn't :storm-hammer:

Ummmm... read the other 21 pages of this thread and the last 10 pages of the previous thread on the game?
I did read all the pages but was worried this was just another typical MMO launch craze. Even if both O'karr ( IIRC ) and Sandz are storm-hammer wenches I'll listen to the opinions and order now.

not playing this with shc currently but rather with a few workmates (who are terrible at instancing as i found out the other day). overall bioware did an awesome job on this as far as i can tell.
you can play this as pretty much a single player game. pvp is working out suprinsingly well, instances are fun although a bit on the easy side.
i have yet to come across real dickheads but what matters most at the moment is that the smugglers storyline is great fun :)

[Adam C]

the old shitpublic

[noobcake]

the old shitpublic

Wahhhh

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[Aramendel]

If there's one down side to this game, it's that there is entirely too much walking/running.

Yes, 100% agreed.

And the huge "yay" when getting a speeder is very shortlived too once you realise that the later planets are so fucking HUGE that you still are running the same amount of time, if not more.

I would recommend to make very very sure that you have your 48k ready when dinging 25 or you will do /wrists till you have that amount. Tatooine without a speeder is hell.

[Malaes]

As long as you save from about 22 you easily get enough money for the speeder

[Helfix]

MY AGENT UNLOCKED SPRINT, I AM THE MOTHERFUCKING FLASH - or so it feels now.

you feel this way for at least 5 or 6 levels after getting it, then you begin to yearn for level 25 so you just get your fucking speeder. If there's one down side to this game, it's that there is entirely too much walking/running.

just wait until you get to some of the lvl 36+ planets

the amount of walking/runnin/cyclin whatever the fuck is mind boggling. It was my only :cripes: thing with swtor, the ridiculous amount of walking. Not to mention the speeder is a tad bit faster than walking/running :S.

[Isyel]

Heh, true theres a bit too much but at least the planets are HUGE for once... otherwise you'd all be whining how small everything is :P

[Tyrehl]

Heh, true theres a bit too much but at least the planets are HUGE for once... otherwise you'd all be whining how small everything is :P

Yea, fucking Corridors online

[Stormscion]

huge corridors :D

[Isyel]

Heh, true theres a bit too much but at least the planets are HUGE for once... otherwise you'd all be whining how small everything is :P

Yea, fucking Corridors online

Coruscant is shit... but have you fucking seen tatooine etc. or are you just trolling for the fuck of it?

[Spaztick]

Tatooine is huge, and that's about it. The planet before it is pretty nice though.

[DevilDude]

Tatooine is huge, and that's about it. The planet before it is pretty nice though.
nar'shadaa is nice, alderaan is actually even bigger than tatooine.

[Sparq]

MY AGENT UNLOCKED SPRINT, I AM THE MOTHERFUCKING FLASH - or so it feels now.

you feel this way for at least 5 or 6 levels after getting it, then you begin to yearn for level 25 so you just get your fucking speeder. If there's one down side to this game, it's that there is entirely too much walking/running.nooooooooo don't ruin it I need this ~

mmm, noticed it a little bit on Hutta, more so on Dromund. As you say it feels good now but I'm dreading Tatoonie, etc.

~ 267 in queue :(

[Daco]

I found taris took a while to get around and even with the taxi's it still took a while to go from 1 end to the other.

[mira o'karr]

what are you all on about. i loved tatooine. awesomely done. quests and all.
the jawa hero was actually a bit challenging without a tank.

it is the first planet that i have done every single quest on.

what shits me to no end though are the spaceports. FUCK YOU HUGE SPACEPORTS THAT DONT ALLOW MY SPEEDER IN.

[Isyel]

what are you all on about. i loved tatooine. awesomely done. quests and all.
the jawa hero was actually a bit challenging without a tank.

it is the first planet that i have done every single quest on.

what shits me to no end though are the spaceports. FUCK YOU HUGE SPACEPORTS THAT DONT ALLOW MY SPEEDER IN.

C the only part that really pisses me off as far as running goes are the unnecessarily large spaceports...

[Fitzy]

Fuck my copy only took three days to arrive in city but I bet you the fucks will sit on it until Wednesday!

[jbend9620]

they probably preempitvely called in sick for a month to better enjoy ToR...

[lubica]

Fuck my copy only took three days to arrive in city but I bet you the fucks will sit on it until Wednesday!

I'm still waiting on Zavvi to deliver, whoever mentioned them in this thread as legit, can go eat a bag of dicks. So I went and bought the digital version from MMOGA... after dealing with their batshit insane payment verification shit, arguably to avoid backcharging, but srsly.

[pratell]

didn't taris get cremated in KOTOR?

[Aramendel]

300 years ago. By now stuff started to grow in the ashes again and people are trying to resettle.

[Daco]

300 years ago. By now stuff started to grow in the ashes again and people are trying to resettle.

Yeah still tons of those Rakghouls though, always hated those on KoToR not so bad now since the poison only lasts for a set amount of seconds, unlike slowly dying because you didn't buy 50 antidote med packs like in KoToR :\

[Fitzy]

December 23, 2011 02:05:00 PM Perth AU Possible delay in delivery due to extra carrier processing

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Trindermon]

So ive been PvPing a bit. FUCK HUTTBALL.

My server hasloads of imps, so i always endup playing cunting huttball and its shit grrr. the other game type with the huge guns and the ships is great fun, i never end up getting it though.

[helgur]

Fucking RAGE

It won't let me login, because "There is currently no active subscription on this account", allthough when I check the webpage it says I still have 26 days left of gametime.

The fuck.

Edit: Resolved. It seemed I needed to enter my credit card info again so they could bill me automatically each month. Rage status: Slightly decreased

[Iloni Atoriandra]

Tattooine is my fav map by far currently. Alderaan seemed a bit boring and I had a bit of jerkyness on it. Should be on Hoth now which is apparently very good.

I get loads of Huttball as well as I play Imp but everyone sucks at it except me. In the last 3 games Im the only one who scored on my team while everyone else just fucked about being retarded. The only exception to this is the 1 person who passed me the ball with 5 seconds to go just as he died so we ended up in possession of the ball and won as the scores were tied.

[Jolin]

I am getting incredibly shit fps at live, even though I had good frame rates at beta. NO fucking idea why and fiddling with the settings one bit. The weirdest part is that everything on low gives me the same frame rates as everything on high (minus bloom and shadow) ie 10-15fps.

It's killing the game for me tbh

[Alistair]

I am getting incredibly shit fps at live, even though I had good frame rates at beta. NO fucking idea why and fiddling with the settings one bit. The weirdest part is that everything on low gives me the same frame rates as everything on high (minus bloom and shadow) ie 10-15fps.

It's killing the game for me tbh

Too much porn on your Hardrive perhaps?

[hinch]

makes me wish swg was still active :(

[helgur]

Fuck waiting in line ~20 minutes every time i connect. I'm hoping this will be improved when my sub runs out or I'll stop tossing my money at them

[DevilDude]

I am getting incredibly shit fps at live, even though I had good frame rates at beta. NO fucking idea why and fiddling with the settings one bit. The weirdest part is that everything on low gives me the same frame rates as everything on high (minus bloom and shadow) ie 10-15fps.

It's killing the game for me tbh
try turning off shadows, there's some sort of memory leak issue with them.

[kyrieee]

I'm still undecided on this game, but I just caught the intro movie on youtube and w t f?
They just made exact copies of scenes out of the movies and jammed them all together. How do people with so little creativity get put in charge of so much money (because it sure looks good)? Amazing CG but whoever story boarded it should DIAF.

[Jolin]

Too much porn on your Hardrive perhaps?

All my porn is on an external.



try turning off shadows, there's some sort of memory leak issue with them.

Already running without bloom and shadows.

[mira o'karr]

I'm still undecided on this game, but I just caught the intro movie on youtube and w t f?
They just made exact copies of scenes out of the movies and jammed them all together. How do people with so little creativity get put in charge of so much money (because it sure looks good)? Amazing CG but whoever story boarded it should DIAF.

which movie? cause i would watch that. also game is chock a block with good storytelling.
dont judge by the cover imho.

[kyrieee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwpdwqVOuH0

[Marlona Sky]

Can like one person fly a ship and some other man guns like they did in the intro vid?

[Aramendel]

Can like one person fly a ship and some other man guns like they did in the intro vid?

Nope. Space combat is a simple rail shooter. Fun, but not terribly complex.

Intro: I do not really see the problem. The only thing which I find badly there was the reaction of the jedi knight on the invasion force. Sith assumed to be defeated since 1000 years. Bunch of unknown spaceships appear, 1 second later he calls out "the sith empire has returned".
A simple "we are under attack" and them wondering who does it until they see the dark force users would have been more logical.

But simply copying scenes from the movies? I do not really see that. The scenes shown there are relatively generic, saying they copy stuff is a bit like saying one wild west movie is copying the other because there is a 1v1 duel in both.

/edit: the asteroid flight thing was somewhat of a straight copy though, I give you that.

[Daco]

I am getting incredibly shit fps at live, even though I had good frame rates at beta. NO fucking idea why and fiddling with the settings one bit. The weirdest part is that everything on low gives me the same frame rates as everything on high (minus bloom and shadow) ie 10-15fps.

It's killing the game for me tbh

Tbh my FPS is better since it has gone live, there are a few ares it drops but never for long.

[Marlona Sky]

Fuck it. Bought and currently dling.

I really don't want to pick something that 95% of the players have picked (sith saber wielding fan boy), was wondering what is desperately needed? Also is there a FHC clan or some shit?

[kyrieee]

Can like one person fly a ship and some other man guns like they did in the intro vid?

Nope. Space combat is a simple rail shooter. Fun, but not terribly complex.

Intro: I do not really see the problem. The only thing which I find badly there was the reaction of the jedi knight on the invasion force. Sith assumed to be defeated since 1000 years. Bunch of unknown spaceships appear, 1 second later he calls out "the sith empire has returned".
A simple "we are under attack" and them wondering who does it until they see the dark force users would have been more logical.

But simply copying scenes from the movies? I do not really see that. The scenes shown there are relatively generic, saying they copy stuff is a bit like saying one wild west movie is copying the other because there is a 1v1 duel in both.

/edit: the asteroid flight thing was somewhat of a straight copy though, I give you that.

Since this a bit off topic:
Okay, well maybe not straight copies of scenes but pretty much every line or moment in the trailer is supposed to evoke a specific moment from the movies and I thought it was really clumsy. Smuggler guy got caught and makes a quip about having the fastest ship in the sector. Yeah I get it, he's han solo. Sith show up in a hangar and the jedi say "this is our fight", yeah I get it it's the scene from ep1 with darth maul. People mount gun stations that look identical to those on the millenium falcon. YEAH I GET IT. It doesn't feel like an original piece of content or mini-story, it just feels like something that desperately wants to remind you of star wars in the most obvious way possible.

I guess I prefer subtlety.

[Fitzy]

Holy shit DHL just delivered on a Saturday.

[sand]

Fuck it. Bought and currently dling.

I really don't want to pick something that 95% of the players have picked (sith saber wielding fan boy), was wondering what is desperately needed? Also is there a FHC clan or some shit?

Imperial Operatives/Snipers are pretty rare - which is surprising given how badass the story is (imho, way better than Sith Jugg or BH) and how devastating they can be. The amount of CC the class can put out is ridiculous. I'm loving being a rogue/healer mix (vanish, sap, evasion, hamstring, blind, etc on a main healer?! awesome!)

[noobcake]

Fuck it. Bought and currently dling.

I really don't want to pick something that 95% of the players have picked (sith saber wielding fan boy), was wondering what is desperately needed? Also is there a FHC clan or some shit?

Imperial Operatives/Snipers are pretty rare - which is surprising given how badass the story is (imho, way better than Sith Jugg or BH) and how devastating they can be. The amount of CC the class can put out is ridiculous. I'm loving being a rogue/healer mix (vanish, sap, evasion, hamstring, blind, etc on a main healer?! awesome!)

Pro tip...most people aren't playing the game for it's epic story telling

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[noobcake]

I am getting incredibly shit fps at live, even though I had good frame rates at beta. NO fucking idea why and fiddling with the settings one bit. The weirdest part is that everything on low gives me the same frame rates as everything on high (minus bloom and shadow) ie 10-15fps.

It's killing the game for me tbh
try turning off shadows, there's some sort of memory leak issue with them.

There's a memory leak issue, period. My client starts at 600Mb, then a second process opens about 10 minutes into a gaming session and slowly starts leaking...all the way up to 2.5GB of ram usage.

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[Daco]

Fuck it. Bought and currently dling.

I really don't want to pick something that 95% of the players have picked (sith saber wielding fan boy), was wondering what is desperately needed? Also is there a FHC clan or some shit?

Imperial Operatives/Snipers are pretty rare - which is surprising given how badass the story is (imho, way better than Sith Jugg or BH) and how devastating they can be. The amount of CC the class can put out is ridiculous. I'm loving being a rogue/healer mix (vanish, sap, evasion, hamstring, blind, etc on a main healer?! awesome!)

My main char is a Imperial Sniper and I am loving the story, I have a Sith Assassin and a Jedi Guardian but much preferring playing as the Imp Sniper they do huge amounts of damage and I am running with Loganbacca who is playing as a BH so we can just Rip everything a new one. Also we worked out today in the Heroic ares it is much better to primary guys then just shoot at targets :P

[mira o'karr]

http://www.swtorface.com/p/swtor-companion-list.html

companion gift guide. who likes want. found this pretty useful. obviously ... spoilers... as it will tell you what other companions are ahead.

[Aramendel]

Since this a bit off topic:
Okay, well maybe not straight copies of scenes but pretty much every line or moment in the trailer is supposed to evoke a specific moment from the movies and I thought it was really clumsy. Smuggler guy got caught and makes a quip about having the fastest ship in the sector. Yeah I get it, he's han solo. Sith show up in a hangar and the jedi say "this is our fight", yeah I get it it's the scene from ep1 with darth maul. People mount gun stations that look identical to those on the millenium falcon. YEAH I GET IT. It doesn't feel like an original piece of content or mini-story, it just feels like something that desperately wants to remind you of star wars in the most obvious way possible.

I guess I prefer subtlety.

Point taken ;)

You are definitly right about those details. But I can understand why they made it like that. The audience needs to be hammered in that "it's star wars", iconic stuff like that is kinda part of it. The imperial and republic intro are a bit more subtle IMO.

[High Sierra]

is this worth me getting into?

been waiting for a decent MMO for a while now

[Cerzi]

I bought it because I'm weak. Went operative as it looked like one of the more interesting classes. Game bores me to death, it's a sad fusion of MMO and RPG without being good at either.

Bland bland bland, expensive and so bland.

[Cerzi]

The single player stuff is just far too easy to make for a good single player experience, as by modern mmo design it has to be balanced so that any retard can chew through it with whatever awful spec they might conceive. As a result not a single NPC is at all intimidating because you know if you ever have to face them alone it will be completely trivial. Which just helps (along with a load of other things) to completely undermine any immersive elements.