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LordsServant
November 22 2011, 02:03:33 AM
[Ragnarok, 1billion isk an hour]
Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Tobias' Modified Tracking Enhancer
Tobias' Modified Tracking Enhancer
Tobias' Modified Tracking Enhancer
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed
Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution
Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution
Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster, Scan Resolution
Tobias' Modified 100MN MicroWarpdrive
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, EMP XL
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, EMP XL
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, EMP XL
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, EMP XL
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, EMP XL
6x2500mm Heavy Gallium I Repeating Cannon, EMP XL
Cynosural Field Generator I
Estamel's Modified Cloaking Device
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Wasp EC-900 x5
Wasp EC-900 x5
Vespa EC-600 x12
Hornet EC-300 x1
While I own parts of this fit I don't use it for ratting. If I had a separate ragnacock for the sole purpose of ratting, I would probably fit and rig it this way.
Discuss...also I STARTED A THRED!
-Lords
Ralara
November 22 2011, 05:07:29 AM
not a great ratting fit - it'd take you too long to recoup the cost of those fittings.
Helen can explain it better since he's, you know, actually done it, but the actual general mods are about right (TEs and gyros in lows, TCs and SBs in mids. Except you just need shadow serp / domination stuff.
And it wont be a billion isk an hour.
The rigs need to be the scan res ones tbh.
I'd also go DDD instead of cloak.
Helen
November 22 2011, 04:20:10 PM
Yeah cloak just fucks things up the way it works is you should never even be seen ratting let alone having to chance cloaking after someone has arrived in local.
Officer mods offer fuck all in the way of a real increase over faction mods like shadow serpentis tracking computers, a case could possibly be made for using officer sebo but given the extreme cost and still limited use after using the proper rigs I'd say the investment was definitely not worth it.
As Ralara said the rigs are totally wrong, you don't need to have the MWD either but if you really there isn't much else you could do with that mid slot anyway.
Targeting subcontroller rigs are what makes titan absolute pve beasts as the lock time really gets to uber fast pwn mode anything else is not worth it.
Not sure why you'd have a cyno field gen on, but I'd go with a nice officer smarty with around 9.25km range or better to slap any frigs that do get too close by chance.
DD is kinda optional on one hand it was nice to dd people while you rat but I'd rather not risk getting locked into space for any duration of time, so unless you are confident that you can call in support I wouldn't bother also I know I've accidentally activated the bloody thing a couple times on frigs...
With some old maths from when I last played back at the start of the year you could generate around 600mil + in sansha/blood space, with higher profits in drone space but that requires more accounts/helpers to haul that crap in.
LordsServant
November 23 2011, 05:36:10 PM
Yeah cloak just fucks things up the way it works is you should never even be seen ratting let alone having to chance cloaking after someone has arrived in local.
Officer mods offer fuck all in the way of a real increase over faction mods like shadow serpentis tracking computers, a case could possibly be made for using officer sebo but given the extreme cost and still limited use after using the proper rigs I'd say the investment was definitely not worth it.
As Ralara said the rigs are totally wrong, you don't need to have the MWD either but if you really there isn't much else you could do with that mid slot anyway.
Targeting subcontroller rigs are what makes titan absolute pve beasts as the lock time really gets to uber fast pwn mode anything else is not worth it.
Not sure why you'd have a cyno field gen on, but I'd go with a nice officer smarty with around 9.25km range or better to slap any frigs that do get too close by chance.
DD is kinda optional on one hand it was nice to dd people while you rat but I'd rather not risk getting locked into space for any duration of time, so unless you are confident that you can call in support I wouldn't bother also I know I've accidentally activated the bloody thing a couple times on frigs...
With some old maths from when I last played back at the start of the year you could generate around 600mil + in sansha/blood space, with higher profits in drone space but that requires more accounts/helpers to haul that crap in.
Considering you can lock up a shitton of targets, I'm not quite sure how faster locking speed really helps. The name "1 billion isk an hour" was actually a joke. :) As far as the officer mods, they were also a bit of a joke, but I do have somewhat similar mods for actual pvp...officer gyros are imo totally worth it there.
Cyno field gen would be for "omg halp somehow the 0.00001% chance happened and I'm tackled...BRING THE SUPAH BLAWB!111"
Any other suggestions?
-Lords
Helen
November 23 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Yeah what do I know about ratting in a titan...
Ralara
November 23 2011, 06:00:39 PM
Yeah cloak just fucks things up the way it works is you should never even be seen ratting let alone having to chance cloaking after someone has arrived in local.
Officer mods offer fuck all in the way of a real increase over faction mods like shadow serpentis tracking computers, a case could possibly be made for using officer sebo but given the extreme cost and still limited use after using the proper rigs I'd say the investment was definitely not worth it.
As Ralara said the rigs are totally wrong, you don't need to have the MWD either but if you really there isn't much else you could do with that mid slot anyway.
Targeting subcontroller rigs are what makes titan absolute pve beasts as the lock time really gets to uber fast pwn mode anything else is not worth it.
Not sure why you'd have a cyno field gen on, but I'd go with a nice officer smarty with around 9.25km range or better to slap any frigs that do get too close by chance.
DD is kinda optional on one hand it was nice to dd people while you rat but I'd rather not risk getting locked into space for any duration of time, so unless you are confident that you can call in support I wouldn't bother also I know I've accidentally activated the bloody thing a couple times on frigs...
With some old maths from when I last played back at the start of the year you could generate around 600mil + in sansha/blood space, with higher profits in drone space but that requires more accounts/helpers to haul that crap in.
Considering you can lock up a shitton of targets, I'm not quite sure how faster locking speed really helps. The name "1 billion isk an hour" was actually a joke. :) As far as the officer mods, they were also a bit of a joke, but I do have somewhat similar mods for actual pvp...officer gyros are imo totally worth it there.
Cyno field gen would be for "omg halp somehow the 0.00001% chance happened and I'm tackled...BRING THE SUPAH BLAWB!111"
Any other suggestions?
-Lords
If it's being used for ratting it should be in a dead system or one which is off the track (dur).
It should be "your" system - other people in corp or esp. alliance are *NOT PERMITTED* (or maybe not allowed between 22:00 and 02:00 or whatever)
DS pos, obviously
Cynojammed
Scout in each system either way with eyes on the gate on the other side and their local and overview always visible on your screen
Scan res rigs - because you're only using either 2 or 3 guns (grouped) per target you will end up waiting on locking time
Cyno is not needed - have an alt for that if necessary but with the above precautions it's not needed. Should be in range of a jump array anyway - if someone's in local / logon trap and you see a dictor on dscan, you jump out immediately
If you already have some of the officer stuff, w/e - obviously a tobias gyro is better than a domination but there's the opportunity cost - an extra 50-100m an hour for 6x 2-4b+ units? If you got em, use em I guess but personally I'd remove them so that if for whatever reason you lost it ratting, you've still got 30b in mods to sell towards the new one :D
Helen
November 23 2011, 06:03:57 PM
Also fuck loads of large bubbles on the gates so people don't just wander in.
Otherwise Ral has pretty much covered the basics, now you can try and argue with that and the reasoning for the scan res rigs but there is no reason for anything but scan res rigs.
Also have another titan for pvp use.:obama:
Daco
December 16 2011, 08:27:33 PM
I think this guy took your advice lords: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11888211
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