The Dominion thread

[Daypitoum]

Been testing it today. Highly addictive and basically removes all the main issues I had with LoL (super boring bot laning, turtling under towers, games lost at 10 mins because your mid lane fed)

What do you think of it ?

WAT IS IT

Dominion is a capture style map, means there is no towers/nexus to destroy but instead you need to secure and hold cap zones to reduce the enemy's Nexus hp (and win when it gets to 0) Games are fast-paced, favor ganks and small fights instead of boring farming and 5v5 teamfights.

GAMEPLAY

Le map

http://uppix.net/1/c/a/d9f88f9986468c6f99fd6fe92608c.png
1 : Nexus.
2 : Cap zones.
3 : Speed buffs
4 : Health packs. These spawns at 2.00 and respawn every 30 secs
5 : Shield buffs. 1 available per team, need a 2 sec channel to pick one up. It gives you extra hp and reflects a % of 1 tick of damage every 4 secs (think thornmail but also works on magic damage). I'm standing on them so you don't see on map :(

Items, spawning, gold

You start with 1375 gold and lvl3. During all the game you win experience passively and much much more gold than in Summoner's Rift. A champion can complete a full build in 20-25 mins easily. Champion kills don't give a lot of gold and you usually dont have much time to farm creeps.

Items see : http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Dominion/Items . Dominion has new items and you can't use some from Summoner's Rift like Banshee. "Prospectors" items replace Dorans but can't be stacked. They cost 920.
NO WARDS/WRIGGLES

Capping and winning
Each team starts with 500 Nexus hp and no capture points.
To cap a point, you need to right click it to start a channel. Your champion will be unable to move or use any skill while capping, but you can cancel at any moment (exactly like ONS maps in UT2004 with the Link Gun) ; also taking damage cancels capturing . It takes around 8 secs to cap a point, less if you have more players capturing, more if it was previously owned by the enemy.
The second a team has more points than another, the other team starts loosing Nexus hp.
If team A has 3 points and B 2, B looses 1 Nexus hp every second
If A has 4 and B 1, B looses a bit more (Like 1,5/sec)
Killing an enemy removes 2hp to their Nexus

[i]Creeps[i]

They deal slightly more damage than usual, also each wave or so has a bigger creep that replaces the cannon minion (and deals more damage). A big enough creep wave can cap a point.

CHAMPS

Obviously anything with high mobility and early/mid game dominance is powerful in this map. Vayne, rammus, poppy, singed etc you get the idea

[cullnean]

twitch for super fun roaming play, hes like a little rat trouble shooter

will try AP shaco for box traps on the MID buffs

so yeah its a fun roaming teamfight fest, although high mobiltity/high health split captures will be a pain.

[Jeeves]

loving it so far, all about dem points, crushing with ryze atm.

[Popelmon]

So, it was 88 to 4 (we had 4 left). We won. I just farmed them on top with Jax and capped like a mofo.

So good.

[Daypitoum]

So, it was 88 to 4 (we had 4 left). We won. I just farmed them on top with Jax and capped like a mofo.

So good.

Awesome game

Bropelmon <3

[Omega Supreme]

You all still worry me, being (ex-) EVE players and excited about an expansion named Dominion.

[filingo]

You all still worry me, being (ex-) EVE players and excited about an expansion named Dominion.

im looking forward to summoners quarters

[Hehulk]

I found it a little more fun than yesterday, but character balance does strike me as a pretty big issue. Anyone with a real strong mid/late game on summoners rift is going to destroy this. Jax, Nasus, Morde (as it turns out), seen those chars dominate the games I've been in. Kassadin seems pretty powerful as well, but I only saw him once.

[Voulture]

Tried it a few times, won 4 out of 5 while duoing with Drax. I think there are a lot of amazing champs on this map, rest is avarage.

King tier: Ezrael, Akali, Vayne, Jax, Rammus, Nocturn, Lee Sin, Cass, GP, Kennen, Katarina, Udyr, TF, Xin Zao, Yi, Heim, Irelia.

That's pretty much what i saw and played so far with very cool results. Ghost on everyone, second summoner is up to you - promote is cool, exhaust is okish, revive very nice.
Don't build up shit items, if you play well you will finish it with 4-5 end game items easily. Entropy is retardly sick, true dmg activation + slow? In other words, free red buff for you and build up very nicely. I very like anti invi items, both as one and magic. Do not get roa / aa / warmogs. No way you can get even 1/3rd of stacks. Do buy lifesteal / spell wamp items. Gunblade, sanguine, wota are best early items. Wanted to say boots of mobility on everyone but i find zerks to help a lot as vayne last game. Not sure about merc threads.

Opinions?
So far - great, fast warm up mode. I will play one before playing any standard games every day i guess not to play cold. Is it good enough to take players from rankeds queues or draft normals? Doubt it, but i believe a decent amount of players, after hype faint, will stick to it. It's like, yet another alternative for ones that don't like 5vs5's and used to play TT just to have players cooperate more.

[Grarr Dexx]

Six game marathon, last game ended with enemies turning 12 points into a win. Nocturne and Lee Sin are fucking amazing, just rush Entropy and maybe the new BF sword / vamp sceptre dominion item.

[Omega Supreme]

Active on NA, with Draft Pick enabled!

[TurielD]

Played it first time just now, won first time just now. Shaco boxes are evil for protecting points... that's about all.

[Omega Supreme]

Karthus es #1 on Dominion

[cullnean]

a couple of strong one v one champs roaming with a core of 3 is good so far.

or full tanky dps

[TroN]

Poppy looks like she was built for this game type. I haven't had time to play it yet but really looking forward to it.

How big is the map, compared to the semi global ults on characters like TF, Noct and Pant? Team Global ult worth trying or are the games just too short for ultimates to make much difference?

[Mendolorian Girl]

How big is the map, compared to the semi global ults on characters like TF, Noct and Pant? Team Global ult worth trying or are the games just too short for ultimates to make much difference?

viable probably.. don't forget Shen though :)

I played a couple of games with Shaco, that shit's just funny.. flash through walls, Jitb traps everywhere :D

[Lilalaunebör]

Poppy should esp work since almost all fights are near some wall or other obstacle, cant really miss a charge stun.

Other things ive learned so far:
Zerging is bad, if you see a 1v2 situation go out of vision range and wait for your chance. Have lost a game or two because people just rushed to the nearest enemy control point after respawn.
The other thing is, champion kills DO matter, but less because of gold/xp and more because of the respawn timer. So my favourite summoner spells are exhaust and ghost or exhaust and promote, wich brings me to:
Minions matter, but in a different way. Firstly, the gold per minion is higher, 60g per melee minion i believe? Secondly, promoting into a superminion can turn a hostile point neutral without any champion capping, meaning you can do something else. Plus, capping a point with minions in tow significantly speeds up the process, the max for me was something like 10 sec solo vs 3-4 secs with two minion waves.

Overall its fun and new, but the difference between a practiced team and couple of newcomers is already noticeable.

[Omega Supreme]

Not particularly spectacular, but I had to say it:

http://darkmessiah.net/LoL/Mordekaiser2.jpg

He's #1 again!!

[Kanv]

how do you get into a dominion game?

[Omega Supreme]

how do you get into a dominion game?

Depends on whether or not you can be on when they open a testing window.

[Vax]

King tier: Ezrael, Akali, Vayne, Jax, Rammus, Nocturn, Lee Sin, Cass, GP, Kennen, Katarina, Udyr, TF, Xin Zao, Yi, Heim, Irelia.

God Tier: Teemo.

build him AP. shroom all buffs and brushes around the middle. get 300 AP asap. collect kills and tears in global chat. lean back with a smile while winning the map.

on a more serious note: dominion is all about mobility which teemo can take away very effectively with good shrooming. on top of that he is very mobile himself AND has a buildin stealth.

[Mendolorian Girl]

God Tier: Teemo.

build him AP. shroom all buffs and brushes around the middle. get 300 AP asap. collect kills and tears in global chat. lean back with a smile while winning the map.

on a more serious note: dominion is all about mobility which teemo can take away very effectively with good shrooming. on top of that he is very mobile himself AND has a buildin stealth.

also, he's rapid

[lubica]

garen is p. good also, though I came up vs sion akali and xin zhao in a custom 3v3 and we lost badly (skillshot missing blitzcrank gg:( )

[Accipiter]

Karthus es #1 on Dominion

Slow, long CD on his Ult. Is there a way/buff to reset them? On the other hand you can just die on a hostile Cap and force them away from your team or right into them. So far I've mostly seen the "holy trinity" of Akali/Jax/Tryn in most matches, Katarina also has her place. Apart from that it's either fast roaming with stealth (Teemo, Shaco, Twitch) or the tanky DPS branch.

Really like it so far. Lots of little fights 1on1 to 2on2, you can turn around matches with bold/unexpected moves and they are over around 20 mins. Has nothing to do with the original DoTa but that's why I like it so much so far.

[Polysynchronicity]

Tristana is actually really good in this mode. Just make sure to skip Explosive Shot, since you won't be farming shit.

[Mendolorian Girl]

Apart from that it's either fast roaming with stealth (Teemo, Shaco, Twitch)

Teemo and Shaco would be a lovely combo, forget the stealth, it's all about the shrooms/jitb

[Omega Supreme]

Slow, long CD on his Ult. Is there a way/buff to reset them? On the other hand you can just die on a hostile Cap and force them away from your team or right into them. So far I've mostly seen the "holy trinity" of Akali/Jax/Tryn in most matches, Katarina also has her place. Apart from that it's either fast roaming with stealth (Teemo, Shaco, Twitch) or the tanky DPS branch.

Really like it so far. Lots of little fights 1on1 to 2on2, you can turn around matches with bold/unexpected moves and they are over around 20 mins. Has nothing to do with the original DoTa but that's why I like it so much so far.

Max CDR first. It's not Summoner's Rift, you're not looking for power per se, but the ability to shit Req's. You can get his ult down to 72s, and that can be real fucking devastating in Dominion.

[Nicho Void]

I play Teemo for the lulz, but Akali dominates all dominion.

[filingo]

only played the once but it was pretty frantic!

[Accipiter]

I play Teemo for the lulz, but Akali dominates all dominion.

I would extend that to all chars that can "delay" a cap in some way. Shaco has his boxes, can stealth from attacks and hit you in the back - giving his the team the seconds needed to come to the defence. Need to play with the new items a bit. AFAIR one of them will give you vision of your current enemy for 4 seconds if you hit them with a spell.

[Daypitoum]

DOminion available in 40 mins

[Nicho Void]

I would extend that to all chars that can "delay" a cap in some way. Shaco has his boxes, can stealth from attacks and hit you in the back - giving his the team the seconds needed to come to the defence. Need to play with the new items a bit. AFAIR one of them will gives you vision of your current enemy for 4 seconds if you hit them with a spell.
Yeah. It's a ring in the AP tree. Nice counter to stealth champs.

[cullnean]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/lordpoon/dom.jpg

tried talon was fun, brutalizer at start for nearly true damage :)

[Forever Calzone]

Slow, long CD on his Ult. Is there a way/buff to reset them? On the other hand you can just die on a hostile Cap and force them away from your team or right into them. So far I've mostly seen the "holy trinity" of Akali/Jax/Tryn in most matches, Katarina also has her place. Apart from that it's either fast roaming with stealth (Teemo, Shaco, Twitch) or the tanky DPS branch.

Really like it so far. Lots of little fights 1on1 to 2on2, you can turn around matches with bold/unexpected moves and they are over around 20 mins. Has nothing to do with the original DoTa but that's why I like it so much so far.

Fuck his ult. It's his passive that leads to rape on dominion. Dive onto point and they can't do anything until they kill you and even then they still can't do anything until your ghost is gone.

Could easily see a revive karthus being ridiculous on dominion.

[PiePork]

How2play: Click. (http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/kppbc/dominion_meta_our_strategy_led_to_22_straight_wins/)

[Blutreiter]

Blitzcrank is very devastating in Dominion, especially if you rush Overdrive and max cooldown for perma-overdrive. Buy cooldown boots in the beginning, get Sheen ASAP and then grab this glacial thing that builds into frozen heart. He will be fast as fuck and has high base damage which works beautifully. Also passive ulti nuke goodness.

FIST EVERYTHING!

hint: dont grab to initiate. Run in and fist the fuck out of them. Only grab fleeing peeps or if you can drag someone all across one of your towers.

[Irion]

Blitzcrank is very devastating in Dominion, especially if you rush Overdrive and max cooldown for perma-overdrive. Buy cooldown boots in the beginning, get Sheen ASAP and then grab this glacial thing that builds into frozen heart. He will be fast as fuck and has high base damage which works beautifully. Also passive ulti nuke goodness.

FIST EVERYTHING!

hint: dont grab to initiate. Run in and fist the fuck out of them. Only grab fleeing peeps or if you can drag someone all across one of your towers.

Seconding this although I start tear and boots (charge it while you wait) rush manamune then sheen, cooldown boots and trinity, shroud. Dominion strikes me a very shallow, quickly turns to rushing about to a massive brawl. Bruisers are op and rammus is mental.

[filingo]

i want them to just hurry up and leave it enabled now tbh. nice little diversion tbh. is it turned on in the us or is it every so often like on eu west?

[Omega Supreme]

i want them to just hurry up and leave it enabled now tbh. nice little diversion tbh. is it turned on in the us or is it every so often like on eu west?

The latter, we're still operating with periods of it being on for testing.

Also Brand seems to be trololol in Dominion.

[Omega Supreme]

Dominion active on NA.

Edit: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1283515

PERMANENTLY AVAILABLE? :D

[filingo]

Derpminion is released on eu servers as well

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=417845

[Marlona Sky]

Just finished a game where some noob is convinced that spamming the 'retreat' button non-stop on objectives some how gets them captured faster. I shit you not he hit that button over 500 times during the match. My ears hurt.

I swear some people deserve a swift fucking bat across the face for shit like that. Riot needs to increase the delays in between the pinging. Especially for those who face roll on them non-stop.

[Accipiter]

Mute him? Or doesn't that work for pinging since it's "global for the team"? In other News: Didn't you want someone playing as Taric bot with you?

[Lilalaunebör]

http://i.imgur.com/gnvTn.jpg

Closest win ever, my build was stupid but immense fun. MS mastery + ult + ghost + 2*PD = woooosh.

[Omega Supreme]

http://i.imgur.com/gnvTn.jpg

Closest win ever, my build was stupid but immense fun. MS mastery + ult + ghost + 2*PD = woooosh.

I do that as well but I drop the prospector's blade for IE and gunblade for Ghostblade.

Why yes, I enjoy my 100% crits and 2.5 ASPD with 800 MS. Have fun trying to catch me fuckers after I ganked 3 of your team in five seconds.

[filingo]

i want to play some dominion with fhc bros this evening and try and figure out what works better than PICK OFF TANK, RUN AROUND EVERYWHERE

anyone for theory crafting?

how about 2/1/2 and having a ap carry + off tank top, a good roamer mid and ad carry + tank/off tank bot?

cap nearest points with 2 each, mid can go top to interrupt lol rammus capture while top catches up or he can wait until top gets there and gets in behind. thinking an aoe ap nuker will do well top initially as you get a clump of people and the ad carry will be safe bot - swtich the carries around as the game progresses?

[Jeeves]

*ignore, i r tard.

[Omega Supreme]

Am I imagining things, or is it Dominion gets decided by whichever team's Rammus is better? He's really annoying on this map. :(

[Spaztick]

I always go draft pick so I can ban Rammus and Akali.

[Nicho Void]

The game is won by whichever side realizes that fighting the OP champ 1v1 is unnecessary.

If they want to fight, bait them away from the point. Wait for teammates to come in. If they don't budge from the point, go somewhere else.

[PiePork]

i want to play some dominion with fhc bros this evening and try and figure out what works better than PICK OFF TANK, RUN AROUND EVERYWHERE

anyone for theory crafting?

how about 2/1/2 and having a ap carry + off tank top, a good roamer mid and ad carry + tank/off tank bot?

cap nearest points with 2 each, mid can go top to interrupt lol rammus capture while top catches up or he can wait until top gets there and gets in behind. thinking an aoe ap nuker will do well top initially as you get a clump of people and the ad carry will be safe bot - swtich the carries around as the game progresses?

Ahem.


How2play: Click. (http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/kppbc/dominion_meta_our_strategy_led_to_22_straight_wins/)

[mira o'karr]

I sucked so hard in dominion I m glad it doesn't show k/d ratio :(

[Spaztick]

Only thing that matters is win/lose ratio.

[TroN]

Poppy is fun on this map. Esp with two phantom dancers.

[Marlona Sky]

At first I liked Dominion, but it all about speed and nothing else. If you decide to go the defend play style, which helps holding the line, you get royally fucked on the points at the end of the match. Does the amount of IP you get correlate to the points you got in the match? They are fast matches which is nice, but you rarely have time to think and play strategically. All your team mates want to do is play the merry-go-round on captures.

EDIT: It really does feel like a place to just farm IP.

Double EDIT: Now I'm just running around as Teemo laying thermonuclear eggs to piss off Shaco's and other cloaky fags who use the middle area to sneak around.

[Kanv]

Is anyone else seeing a massive FPS drop in dominion? I didn't have it when it was still in testing, so do you think it will pass?

[Mendolorian Girl]

Double EDIT: Now I'm just running around as Teemo laying thermonuclear eggs to piss off Shaco's and other cloaky fags who use the middle area to sneak around.

that's funny, I run around as Shaco's laying Jack in the Box's to piss off Teemo's

[TroN]

I seem to get 50ip per game, whether I win or lose.

[Polysynchronicity]

Zilean puts out surprising amounts of rape early/mid game, holy shit

rammus still #1 op dominion hero though - hard to kill, hard to ignore, hard to escape from.

[Irion]

Zilean puts out surprising amounts of rape early/mid game, holy shit

rammus still #1 op dominion hero though - hard to kill, hard to ignore, hard to escape from.

And fucking fast at crossing the map.

Champion balance is pretty much non-existant on this map.

[filingo]

i think rammus will be annoying but not that big a deal once people get more used to it.

im enjoying dominion the more i play it but i really want to play with fhc bros more to avoid the derp derp derp run around people

imo:

opening, 1 bot, 4 top. 3 run to top, 1 caps bot, 1 caps mid.

bottom lane plays a bit like solo top - you want someone who is going to be immovable and able toput pressure on the other point.

after the first team fight i think your layout should be 1 bot, 2 mid/roaming and 2 top. one of the mids is more biased towards the bottom but i think this gives you the most flexible set up. sitting on the point doesnt do anything but derping in on the enemies point doesnt either. i would just keep pushing top and bot lanes and use your middle players to gank/support where needed. you should be aiming to hold 3 points - doesnt really matter which ones as long as you have one of your closest points rock solid.

end game becomes more team fight like - i would keep one top, 3 as a ~wulf pax~ and one flexible to cap points where the enemy isnt.

team comp should be like SR with a lean more towards off tanks. ad carry is the only one thats a bit :/ because i think you need it but its hard to place early game. ap carry is def needed.

bottom lane = solo top
top = duo lane
+ 2 roamers


some dominion games - mainly playing bottom lane. while its not the BIGGEST SCORE or DERP DERP DERP RUN AROUND i think having a solid bottom lane is the most important thing in dominion. you hold your point and put pressure on the other one, putting pressure on the other one being really important. its a bit like playing solo top from SR.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B6NOKLtxmAkPMzhkMjA4ZDAtMGRiMS00Mzg2LTkxM DAtOTI2MGVhOWYxOTY0&hl=en_US < maokai
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B6NOKLtxmAkPOGFkMWUzN2MtM2UxZS00ZWM3LTljY jktNDdhOTM1NWNmZjcy&hl=en_US < kogmaw (hard game against yorick)
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B6NOKLtxmAkPY2FmZmU2M2ItMGU4NC00MjZhLWI1O GItNTViZmIwNGY4Y2Q4&hl=en_US < fhc 3 man, me derping as noct, shinri as alistar and krak as gragas. imo the fights around their bottom point are the game decider

[cullnean]

i too like this game mode

[filingo]

And fucking fast at crossing the map.

Champion balance is pretty much non-existant on this map.

thats because champs arent balanced 1v1 and people arent playing as a team on this map yet.

hopefully the balance will end up better than 3v3

[Irion]

thats because champs arent balanced 1v1 and people arent playing as a team on this map yet.

hopefully the balance will end up better than 3v3

Given that this mode almost entirely ignores farming and plays only the late early to early end section of the game I very much doubt it will. I expect once a popular strategy emmerges some of the free meal characters will be useable who are not now but I don't see how the game can balance around such different enviroments.

[filingo]

Given that this mode almost entirely ignores farming and plays only the late early to early end section of the game I very much doubt it will. I expect once a popular strategy emmerges some of the free meal characters will be useable who are not now but I don't see how the game can balance around such different enviroments.

feels to me more like it skips the early game mostly and you are playing mid game skirmishing for most of it with end game builds/death timers being more important at about 16/18 minutes. did you watch the replays i posted?

[Daypitoum]

Played it a bit more, gets boring very fast. Rammus Yi and Singed every game, with the usual shaco/eve/rat fags backdooring all game.

Boring boring boring

[Jeeves]

goddamn I can't carry the whole team every time, ryze is win, fuck your singed, rammus and yi all easy kills.

[filingo]

derpy tier thread ahoy http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1286491

he has them rated attack, defense, utility. its pretty shit tbh.


Tier I (12+):
Akali (5/3/4), Anivia+ (4/5/3), Heimerdinger (3/5/4), Jax (4/4/4), Karthus (3/5/5), Kennen (4/5/3), LeBlanc (5/3/4), Nocturne (4/3/5), Poppy+ (5/4/3), Rammus (3/4/5), Riven (4/4/4) Shaco (3/4/5), Tryndamere (5/4/3), Twitch (3/5/4)

Tier 2 (11):
Blitzcrank (4/4/3), Caitlyn** (4/3/4), Ezrael (3/3/5), Evelynn* (2/3/5), Gangplank (4/2/5), Garen (5/4/2), Irelia (4/4/3), Janna (2/4/5), Kassadin** (4/3/4), Lee Sin (4/4/3), Maokai (3/5/3), Pantheon (3/3/5), Ryze+ (4/5/2), Singed (4/4/3), Talon (5/3/3), Twisted Fate (3/4/4), Wukong (4/4/3), Xin Zhao (5/3/3)

Tier 3 (10):
Ashe (3/3/4), Alistar (3/5/2), Brand (4/4/2), Cassiopeia (4/4/2), Chogath (4/4/2), Corki+ (4/3/3) , Dr. Mundo (4/4/2), Gragas (4/4/2), Jarvan IV (3/4/3), Kayle (3/3/4), Kog’maw (4/4/2), Lux (3/4/4), Malzahar (4/4/2), Mordekaiser (3/4/3), Morgana (3/4/3), Nidalee (3/2/5), Olaf** (5/4/1), Sion (4/4/2), Teemo (2/3/5), Udyr (3/4/3), Vayne (5/2/3), Warwick (3/3/4), Yorick (4/3/3), Zilean (3/2/5)

Tier 4 (9):
Amumu (2/5/2), Katarina (3/3/3), Leona+ (3/5/1), Miss Fortune (3/4/2), Orianna (3/4/2), Renekton+ (4/3/2), Shen (2/3/4), Skarner (2/4/3), Swain (4/4/1), Tristana (4/3/2), Urgot (4/3/2)

Low Tier (8-):
Annie (3/3/2), Fiddlesticks (3/3/2), Galio (2/4/2), Malphite** (3/4/1), Master Yi (2/2/4), Nasus (2/3/1), Nunu (2/4/2), Sivir (2/4/2), Sona (2/2/4), Soraka- (2/3/3), Taric (2/3/3), Trundle (3/3/2), Veigar (3/4/1)

Currently Uncategorized:
Karma, Vladimir

[Vax]

derpy tier thread ahoy http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1286491

he has them rated attack, defense, utility. its pretty shit tbh.


Tier I (12+):
Akali (5/3/4), Anivia+ (4/5/3), Heimerdinger (3/5/4), Jax (4/4/4), Karthus (3/5/5), Kennen (4/5/3), LeBlanc (5/3/4), Nocturne (4/3/5), Poppy+ (5/4/3), Rammus (3/4/5), Riven (4/4/4) Shaco (3/4/5), Tryndamere (5/4/3), Twitch (3/5/4)

Tier 2 (11):
Blitzcrank (4/4/3), Caitlyn** (4/3/4), Ezrael (3/3/5), Evelynn* (2/3/5), Gangplank (4/2/5), Garen (5/4/2), Irelia (4/4/3), Janna (2/4/5), Kassadin** (4/3/4), Lee Sin (4/4/3), Maokai (3/5/3), Pantheon (3/3/5), Ryze+ (4/5/2), Singed (4/4/3), Talon (5/3/3), Twisted Fate (3/4/4), Wukong (4/4/3), Xin Zhao (5/3/3)

Tier 3 (10):
Ashe (3/3/4), Alistar (3/5/2), Brand (4/4/2), Cassiopeia (4/4/2), Chogath (4/4/2), Corki+ (4/3/3) , Dr. Mundo (4/4/2), Gragas (4/4/2), Jarvan IV (3/4/3), Kayle (3/3/4), Kog’maw (4/4/2), Lux (3/4/4), Malzahar (4/4/2), Mordekaiser (3/4/3), Morgana (3/4/3), Nidalee (3/2/5), Olaf** (5/4/1), Sion (4/4/2), Teemo (2/3/5), Udyr (3/4/3), Vayne (5/2/3), Warwick (3/3/4), Yorick (4/3/3), Zilean (3/2/5)

Tier 4 (9):
Amumu (2/5/2), Katarina (3/3/3), Leona+ (3/5/1), Miss Fortune (3/4/2), Orianna (3/4/2), Renekton+ (4/3/2), Shen (2/3/4), Skarner (2/4/3), Swain (4/4/1), Tristana (4/3/2), Urgot (4/3/2)

Low Tier (8-):
Annie (3/3/2), Fiddlesticks (3/3/2), Galio (2/4/2), Malphite** (3/4/1), Master Yi (2/2/4), Nasus (2/3/1), Nunu (2/4/2), Sivir (2/4/2), Sona (2/2/4), Soraka- (2/3/3), Taric (2/3/3), Trundle (3/3/2), Veigar (3/4/1)

Currently Uncategorized:
Karma, Vladimir


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[Grarr Dexx]

Trundle should have a 5 on attack, at least. He's really strong.

[filingo]

the whole thing is retarded as is the attack/defense/utility rating thing

if this is what the community regards as the meta then i will enjoy raping them

the only thing you can really say at the moment is which champs are really annoying

rammus = speed + tank (especially with all these hurr ad chars running around)
the donger = fucking turrets
shaco = fucking boxes
jax = lol 1v1
alkali = lol 1v1

need to play more and with fhc brahs but im sticking with what i posted earlier. i've played 11 games so far and im 8-3, only one with a 3 man crew. would ban rammus, alkai and donger in that order in draft. obvs need to play a lot more before im proven right or wrong, as my sample size is way too small

[Mendolorian Girl]

Nocturne falls in with the "ARRRGHHH GODDAMNIT" chars imo. His ult gives him control of virtually the entire map

[Grarr Dexx]

It's just 3500 but it's enough to jump out from any of the fog of war'd areas, which is why it may seem like he's everywhere and nowhere. He isn't that good until 10-12 minutes in, though.

[Voulture]

I already got bored with dominion. Played like 15 games top.

[Zekk Pacus]

Played one game with Jax....it's fun if you literally have 20mins to kill but it's very shallow. Even in srsbsns games mobility and a pinch of luck is going to determine winning it.

[Spaztick]

AOE champs are very deadly in the beginning of the game when you have 4 champs rushing to take top tower. Mordekaiser, Heimer, Garen, Jax, Akali, Zilean seem to stomp the top tower.

Also I actually won a game with Evelynn as a joke; Eve is objectively the worst hero in the game with her slow now in every sense. The only reason I'd consider her worth anything is the fact that she has stealth and can sneak up to towers and champs with low hp. Any real team will just buy anti-stealth stuff anyway, so her one advantage of speedy + stealthy is gone.

[filingo]

still enjoying dominion tbh, nice little "casual" game which actually gets very intense very quickly. managed to win a game 2-0 after we capped a third point at 65-2. was good fun! feel like my skirmishing/fighting skills have improved as well. juking like a mother fucker~~

[Kanv]

I find it useful to spam games until i hit my first win of the day, if i don't have time or i'm setting up the time for the next day

[Spaztick]

Dominion is the best ip/time IMO, 50-70 points for a 20 minute game is a no-brainer.

[Lilalaunebör]

Atm i play ranked for challenge, draft normal to test builds, dominion for braindead fun. it all works out.

Just did a game as teeeeeeemo, was quite unsure what to build so went proc, in hindsight next game ill try building deathcap + max cdr and camp our bottom point all game building FOREST OF DOOM.

[Spaztick]

Be sure to spread mushrooms out so the DoT isn't wasted.

[Nicho Void]

Teemo is the best champ ever.
I agree. Such a fun obnoxious little champ.

[Bluemajere]

Atm i play ranked for challenge, draft normal to test builds, dominion for braindead fun. it all works out.

Just did a game as teeeeeeemo, was quite unsure what to build so went proc, in hindsight next game ill try building deathcap + max cdr and camp our bottom point all game building FOREST OF DOOM.

ap teemo works good ONLY as a bottom defender. any other position in dominion and he is quite useless as AP

[Mendolorian Girl]

ap teemo works good ONLY as a bottom defender. any other position in dominion and he is quite useless as AP

dunno how strictly you intend that statement, but for me.. one of Teemo's best qualities in Dominion is ZOMGSOOOOFAST, which allows him to take advantage of clustered up enemies by capturing something far away. His speed and mushrooms should mean he can gtfo also (set mushrooms, start capture... run like fucko through mushrooms, profit)

[Bluemajere]

dunno how strictly you intend that statement, but for me.. one of Teemo's best qualities in Dominion is ZOMGSOOOOFAST, which allows him to take advantage of clustered up enemies by capturing something far away. His speed and mushrooms should mean he can gtfo also (set mushrooms, start capture... run like fucko through mushrooms, profit)

good point, i forgot to mention that if you place mushrooms well enough, you can go back capping their mid while if someone tries to get your bottom you have some time to get back to your bot since their cap will be interrupted by your mushrooms. they must have very precise and intelligent placement though.

edit: fuck, watching my sig twice at the same time owns

[Spaztick]

For ZOMGFAST I prefer Eve with stealth when she moves or BATTLE JANNA which is probably the best support hero around but doubly so on dominion where speed is important, and stacking AP on janna gives you survivability as well.

[Kanv]

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9453/unledpe.png
:ohnoes:

[HyJek]

this is the proper mode of gameplay for League if you ask me, its attempt at mimicking dota style play is exactly that

[cullnean]

this is the proper mode of gameplay for League if you ask me, its attempt at mimicking dota style play is exactly that

is this only half a post?

i think it needs more to make sense.

[Voulture]

And here i though it was my terrible english that

[HyJek]

is this only half a post?

i think it needs more to make sense.

haha oops...yeah I am working off little sleep right now. what I meant was I think the dominion game mode fits League as a whole better than a regular dota style game

[evil edna]

youre a retard

[Spaztick]

insert avatar of the person im quoting here

[TroN]

insert avatar of the person im quoting here

http://failheap-challenge.com/image.php?u=400&dateline=1309654443

Ahem.

[Nicho Void]

Last night, came back from a 1 - 310 deficit to win 1-0.

[Omega Supreme]

Last night, came back from a 1 - 310 deficit to win 1-0.

I would like to hear this epic story.

[TroN]

I would like to hear this epic story.

I'd like a replay if you have one.

[filingo]

me and hehulk just played a game where our xin left at the start

went on to win anyway

FUCK YOU LEAVER IM GOING TO CARRY YOU WETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT FUCKFACE

[Hehulk]

Was indeed an epic game. Score ended up something like 27-0. And this while I was just messing about trying to get use to Xeraths range :lol:

[cullnean]

skarner is VERY good in dominion

[Polysynchronicity]

skarner is VERY good

fyp

[filingo]

basically your team comp should be

1 ap carry
1 ad carry
2 junglers/solo top
1 other

or something

ive had GREAT VICTOLY with kogmaw, pantheon, morgana, nocturne and tree

miss fortune is hard as balls to play as shes so fragile and doesnt have the burst of vayne

shaco and the donger are very irritating

yorick seems good solo bot - he destroys people without sustain (aka almost everyone on dominion)

the dominion buff thing has a big negative on healing so warwick gets hit pretty hard, i dont think hes worth it at all on dominion

[Spaztick]

I always have good pushers on our teams, or good poke. Heimer, Vayne, Singed, Alistar, Akali, Rammus, Jax, Shaco, Kog are all #1 picks.

[TroN]

I just play Poppy in every single Domi game. Works well so far.

[Spaztick]

I always went AP poppy for burst, but I saw an AD poppy killing people without having to rely on Q.

[Kanv]

Is the high end tactic still to do 4 to top and 1 to bottom?

[Spaztick]

Is the high end tactic still to do 4 to top and 1 to bottom?Yup.

[TroN]

I always went AP poppy for burst, but I saw an AD poppy killing people without having to rely on Q.

I have always preferred ad poppy tbh, but I stick a gun blade in there for sustain as well.

[cullnean]

im playing more and more dominion, am i shallow?

just find it quick fast action and a lot of fun

go blind pick hit random when you have a spare 20mins.

[CrzyLgs]

Meh. Dominion doesn't appeal at all to me, perhaps in a 5man premade it'd be better. Only played a couple of pug games and it was mostly mindless zerging.

If I want some LoLz i've been playing some ARAM (All Random, All Mid) games recently with a couple of mates. Are pretty funny for a piss about :D

[Jeeves]

Summoners rift is dead to me, no longer will you take an hour of my life while I watch the rest of the team bicker into defeat

[filingo]

i really enjoy dominion

as ive played a fair number of games and have a positive w/l ratio i usually get good games.

start is 4 top 1 bot. 1 grabs the first point the other 3 run through the jungle/speed up thing to get to top.

had a couple of bad games with bad teams but then one good close game where i played first time aniva and it was pretty chill~

if you are playing with derpy teams just take bot and keep pushing the lane - a solid bottom lane wins gaems. the problem comes when the dickheads on your team see you are doing well and decide that they are going to go bot and you get fucked because you've lost pressure on top/they push your lane/feed the enemy kills.

i think the best team comp for srs business is 2 top, 2 mid/roamers, 1 bot - 1 ap carry, 1 ad carry, 1 tanky melee, 2 junglers/roamers

if anyone wants to duo q dominion with me give me a shout

[cullnean]

i really enjoy dominion

as ive played a fair number of games and have a positive w/l ratio i usually get good games.

start is 4 top 1 bot. 1 grabs the first point the other 3 run through the jungle/speed up thing to get to top.

had a couple of bad games with bad teams but then one good close game where i played first time aniva and it was pretty chill~

if you are playing with derpy teams just take bot and keep pushing the lane - a solid bottom lane wins gaems. the problem comes when the dickheads on your team see you are doing well and decide that they are going to go bot and you get fucked because you've lost pressure on top/they push your lane/feed the enemy kills.

i think the best team comp for srs business is 2 top, 2 mid/roamers, 1 bot - 1 ap carry, 1 ad carry, 1 tanky melee, 2 junglers/roamers

if anyone wants to duo q dominion with me give me a shout

u have my random champ sir!

or if we want to win rammus/talon

[filingo]

go udyr tbh B)

[cullnean]

go udyr tbh B)

okely dokely!

[Spaztick]

Dominion yields more ip/minute, is quicker than the shortest normal game, and lets you do some crazy stuff that wouldn't work anywhere else.

[filingo]

udyr is pretty fun in dominion but the dominion buff destroys his life gain from tortoise mode

ive been playing him as a wild bear tiger man who pops his sheild when he goes balls deep

work well with other deeps chars - had gank plank and poppy with me + we owned

the other team had an udyr and he build tanky atmogs - we were about even 1 on 1 but i was able to destroy his other squishy team mates whereas he didnt have the deeps

[Omega Supreme]

Tried out Poppy, nearly oneshotting people is hilarious on that map.

Outta curiosity, I know Gangplank with an all crit rune page is a gimmick on SR. But in Dominion, given everybody has 15% arpen by default, doesn't that mean you can actually succeed a fuckton more? And not be useless lategame?

[Raxxman]

Tried out Poppy, nearly oneshotting people is hilarious on that map.

Outta curiosity, I know Gangplank with an all crit rune page is a gimmick on SR. But in Dominion, given everybody has 15% arpen by default, doesn't that mean you can actually succeed a fuckton more? And not be useless lategame?

GP isn't usless late game.

I really like Wukong on this mode Ghostblade + entropy kills everything with his E Q R rapefest combo.

[Omega Supreme]

GP isn't useless lategame, no. I was referring to the all crit runes page GP being useless late game.

[filingo]

GP isn't useless lategame, no. I was referring to the all crit runes page GP being useless late game.

i dont think ive seen any good critplanks - i think the best ones ive seen are just straight up ad gangplanks. massive damage off q, enough health to get through a fight but not really tanky

[Voulture]

Ultimate gp build: merc threads, warmog, atma, infinity edge, last whisper, fon. PD instead of fon works as well if enemies don't hae that much magic dmg.

[DrunkenOne]

Poopy too good, i start sheen and even though without boots you get top slightly after everyone else, with your W boost, ghost, and the speed boost in the jungle you are barely behind, and with early sheen you can 1 combo people during the initial fights top. After that I ldo get boots, then I get the item that gives you health regen, capture speed, and active speed boost, which is really cheap and makes poopy the ultimate roamer. After that triforce and gunblade, game is usually over by then otherwise i guess more deeps. I've never lost a game unless i disconnected from my lol internets or my team was down 4v5, finish 1st/2nd every time.

cliffs: poopy OP

[Raxxman]

in a similar principle I've been going brut first with Wukong top.

Turn up fashionably late to the team fight, E into a squishy, Q to drop them to 0 armour with your pen and beat the snot out of them.

Get Treads, Ghostblade, Entropy, E Q into someone, pop R ignite and they're dead, anyone else turns up you Q 1, 2 (ghostblade, entropy) and beat them down.

Poppy + Wukong can 2v4 take a point which is hilarious

[Kanv]

I find that i like Veigar in Dominion, mostly because of the AoE stun, but also the advanced gold makes Rabaddons stacking hilarious

[Lilalaunebör]

Veigar normally really needs to kill creeps with q, wich he cant do much on dominion.

Last game i discovered the hilarity that is battle janna on dominion. Prospectors blade + boots -> PD -> the bloodthirster-y thingy -> second PD or IE or BC or Yomumus.

500+ movement speed, rapey damage, get one point in qwe then max e, max w, use q and ult for control.

[Spaztick]

If nasus or veiger can get bot and farm it's fun times later in the game.

[filingo]

played rammus for the first time in a while, my team decides its a good idea to make me def bottom lane against cass

i dont even

[Raxxman]

the Nasus Rene 'brothers from other mothers' double team is another facemelting team.

Dem ults, so much AOE, I'm sure I had a face a second ago.

Yeah Nasus works in Dominion, can't solo the whole enemy team, but dat slow.

[Trindermon]

Does anyone still play this? Ive been trying to play a bit more cause id like to give it a chance but i just find it rage enducing. lol, its harder to accept loss in this than summoners rift to me. mainly cause people dont even get the basics (like you know, letting the NPSs help you is good).

I noticed as well that it is now the default game type. Ive tended to use it to get the hang of new champs, cause its better than a practice game of summoners for that, at least the whole "learning how abilitys work" thing.

[TroN]

I don't touch it at all now, I really don't like it that much.

[Raxxman]

I really like it tbh,

but I'm in Oz so I'm not playing atm as 350 ping is terribad.

[Herschel Yamamoto]

I mostly play it when I want to get a 150 IP bonus without spending too much time. Summoner's Rift is better for strategic tryhard gameplay, but Dominion's a nice palate cleanser. Mostly play Jax - I'm bad with him in the lane phase, but really good at the "gank chumps" phase, which is all game in Dominion.

[Jindo Minian]

I quite like Dominion. Especially as Gangplank.

[Herschel Yamamoto]

I quite like Dominion. Especially as Gangplank.

GP ult is so awesome in Dominion...

[fffuuu]

I would like to take this post and be a whiny bitch about other whiny bitches who leave or AFK when the game starts going against them. Dominion isn't fucking over until your ticker is zero. you can make a comeback anytime. stop crying that your team is bad (Even if they are bad) grow a pair, and cap some fucking points.