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Phoku5
July 28 2011, 03:12:24 AM
I've been drinking tequila and have to be at work at 5 am but...
No domi topic? Sad its not FOTM or that great in 0.0 blobs, but a good neuting Domi is a nasty opponent to face solo or small gang... still a great ship IMO. Very versatile.
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Copy Pasta "solo" dual rep Domi
tanks 890 w/out heat.
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Hospital Neuting Domi for station games, RR bait balls and other such faggotry.
SEBO and/or ECCM can go in favor of web(s) or other EWAR depending on situation.
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Barring the more standard fits, heres a lol nanofit with neutrons, cap boosta and a heavy neut... this one is 1% over pg grid hence the implant.
Sans implant, You can drop the neut and cap booster for Ions and an LSE if you want.. you'll get better DPS and tank, but lose neuting ability and cap support.
BONUS: No one expects a neuting nano Domi and it shits out DPS.
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[Dominix, Blaster Shield]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Reactor Control Unit II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x5
Naoru
July 28 2011, 07:10:10 AM
You might want to put a BS MWD on the third fit.
[Dominix, Blaster Shield]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Reactor Control Unit II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Warp Disruptor II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x5
You can downgrade the guns to fit a Quad Lif MWD.
1118/1215 DPS
998/1430 m/s speed
Sponk
July 28 2011, 07:20:09 AM
Worth active shield tanking a gank domi?
rojomojo915
July 28 2011, 01:05:53 PM
This is a neut domi fit that I have used on my alt in hi-sec wars. It definitely works and will run as long as you have cap boosters. It will neut 2880 cap every 24s with the mediums keep your targets dry once your target is capped out. It has 114k EHP, but the reason I am posting this is has anyone found a way to fit a 4th heavy neut on a domi without sacrificing the tank that much?
[Dominix, Neut Domi]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
ECCM - Magnetometric II
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Andrea Griffin
July 28 2011, 02:50:31 PM
"Hey guys, I tackled a Domi... Cool, he's going down fast, what a nub... Don't worry about his friends jumping into system, he's hitting hull, he'll be down soon... ... ...Oh jesus christ..."
[Dominix, Bait Dominix]
Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Warp Scrambler II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Heavy 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Heavy 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Heavy 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Ogre II x5
103k EHP, 79k of that in hull. Gremlins because they're a lot cheaper and you don't want to spend too much on a bait ship anyway.
Hellkyte
July 28 2011, 03:19:24 PM
Hull tanked Domi best Domi. Thing is a beast and pretty much free.
One thing I've noticed with it though is that it's close to impossible to hold tackle on anything, so as a bait ship it's kind of "meh" unless you have a hic/dic only seconds behind you. With that in mind I've wondered about filling a lot of the mids with sebos and drone tracking thingies and putting some medium arties in the highs (still keep 2-3 heavy neuts). Should allow you to alpha some small stuff between the arties and some sentries.
Just a thought, and quite likely a terrible one.
Dan Pyre
July 28 2011, 04:29:04 PM
Worth active shield tanking a gank domi?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1489485
About 2/3rd's of the way through :)
Cool09
July 28 2011, 05:49:10 PM
"Hey guys, I tackled a Domi... Cool, he's going down fast, what a nub... Don't worry about his friends jumping into system, he's hitting hull, he'll be down soon... ... ...Oh jesus christ..."
OH NO, HOW WILL WE EVER GET THROUGH THIS 103k EHP SHIP?!?!
While fun to fly for the lulz, its still a silly idea. Bait ships should be tough... many gank BS setups have more EHP than this. An armor tanked domi could easily have more EHP and higher resists, meaning it can effectively be repped up and saved once the gang arrives.
Yes it would be funny, yes its cheap. Personally I get much more enjoyment out of flying an efficient setup and using it effectively. Also I don't know what you are on about, trying to alpha things with medium arties on a domi. Plz go.
Hellkyte
July 28 2011, 06:12:50 PM
well hey I admitted it was most likely a terrible idea. Just something I was thinking about earlier today.
As for the other bait stuff yeah ofc there are better bait ships in terms of tank or tackle. You can put higher EHP on all sorts of things. Even the domi (although it effectively triples the cost of the ship in the case of armor tanks)
The nice thing about the hull tank is the misdirection and the cost. When they see your shield and armor tank bleeding out like a stuck pig they get sloppy and don't think about being aligned out or staying at range, they assume you are some idiot dude who is an active tanked ratter or some stuff. This advantage can't be understated. Speed is definitely an issue with it though.
Phoku5
July 29 2011, 01:17:37 AM
You might want to put a BS MWD on the third fit.
[Dominix, Blaster Shield]
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Yep... thanks.
Mr Marram
July 29 2011, 02:19:50 AM
Yep... thanks.
not sure if serious .... (or sarcastic or actually thankful)
The 'Quad Lif' is a BS (100MN) MWD, the 'Y-T8' is a crusier (10MN) MWD.
Your shield neutron blaster fit has the Y-T8 on it.
Phoku5
July 29 2011, 11:45:29 PM
nope, srs. I was drunk when I poasted. meant 100mNEWTONS. prayers alone do not get one into blaster range.
Phoku5
July 29 2011, 11:46:19 PM
*edit* double post... I need to stop drinking.
LordsServant
October 10 2011, 05:02:44 AM
....and I said oatmeal, you CRAZY!
FUCK YOU ALL I'M STILL LIVING IN 2006 WHEN EVE WAS GOOD!
[Dominix, nanodomi lives again]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Reactor Control Unit II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Damage Control II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage L
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x5
Berserker II x5
Ogre II x1
Berserker II x1
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x10
EHP - 60,665 - with shield resist link
DPS - 580 (5x Ogre II, Barrage for the guns)
Speed - 1601 m/s, align 9.1 s (overloads to 2311 m/s) - LG Snakes and a non-claymore/loki boosting alt with lvl 5 and skirmish mindlink
tl;dr - Fuck Incarna, I'm still playing exodus/rmr.
Important Bits:
-Faster and More Agile than standard single nanofiber AC cane (assuming cane has no bonuses/snakes)
-Its a fucking nanodomi
-Its a fucking nanodomi
-Its a fucking nanodomi
-Wasn't eve better in 2006?
-Lords
Tyrus Tenebros
October 10 2011, 06:01:10 PM
You forgot to put ECM on it.
OrangeAfroMan
April 7 2012, 07:25:33 AM
>.>
[Dominix, Dominix - Single Rep]
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Electron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Large Armor Repairer II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
Bouncer II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x5
1023 | 1105 DPS w/ CN AM and Ogre IIs
114k EHP
211.1 r/sec | 327.9 r/sec w/ Heat and Standard Exile
859 | 1229 m/s
12s align
LordsServant
May 25 2012, 04:41:26 PM
[Dominix, go manly or go home]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Large Drone Speed Augmentor I
Large Drone Durability Enhancer I
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Ogre II x5
45k EHP, p. much a giant fucking taranis(real men hull tank).
1760 dps with heat. :shock:
Confirming flying this fit will put obscene amounts of hair on your chest and cause extreme cases of jealously over your awesome manliness.
I also have a nanodomi fit that actually works (requires a bit of isk). I will hold off on posting that (only 2 brosefs of mine actually have the fit besides myself) until I have used it personally. Assuming it goes well, it will be featured in my next pvp vidya once I get my new comp. (not the same as my old fit; I know, I have a strange obsession with nanodomis)
Oh, and I might do the full manly setup above too =D
OrangeAfroMan
May 25 2012, 07:22:21 PM
Dual Rep, Dual Injector:
[Dominix, Dominix - Med Blasters]
Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Damage Control II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Ogre II x5
781 | 827 DPS w/ CN AM and Ogre IIs
890 | 1068 | 1382 | 1654 DPS tanked (vanilla | Std Exile | Std Exile+Heated Reppers | Std Exile + All heated lows)
Works with Heavy Pulse if you have em.
Better than a Blasterthron:
[Dominix, Dominix - Passive Blasters]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
Bouncer II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x5
1177 | 1282 DPS w/ CN AM and Ogre IIs
114k EHP
[Dominix, Dominix - Neut Domi v2]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Large YF-12a Smartbomb
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
Bouncer II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Vespa II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot II x5
659 DPS w/ Ogre IIs
Neutage
114k EHP
Alundil
May 25 2012, 07:48:38 PM
Going to have to try these.
Sent via highly charged bolt of electricity.
Warmenhoven
June 17 2012, 10:33:27 PM
Ok so i guess someone had to do it:
[Dominix, Shield]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Ogre II x5
+ w/e
So working on a similar line to a Meal except you need a cap booster to keep your guns going which drops the tank quite a bit along with no hull bonuses or enough midslots....;
48.6k EHP
~700/900 tank
1127 DPS @ 12+18km, 0.0567 w/ Null
1246 DPS @ 4+13km, 0.0756 w/ CN AM
1314 DPS @ 6+6km, 0.0567 w/ Void
Could be quite nice with crystals and a tengu though.
Also cheap...ish.
Daneel Trevize
June 23 2012, 07:01:35 PM
Ignore the bad drones mix:
[Dominix, Large Neutrons?! XL ASBs +web]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Berserker II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Ogre II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
1500dps before Void L. :shock:
2.4kdps tank sustainable before drugs. Burst >6.2k dps before drugs
Here the web has cost something like 150dps sustainable tank after squeezing in cheap tech1 shield boost amps. But actually gained at least as much in output dps due to space CPU and the need for a PG rig to go full neutrons (thus inferior fit and not being posted).
[Dominix, Large Neutrons?! XL ASBs m nos? 3]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Tracking Enhancer II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Shield Boost Amplifier II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Shield Boost Amplifier I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Berserker II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Ogre II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Minus the web it's up to 3k tank before Blue Pill, 1283dps dealt before best ammo & any gun implants. Where is your Tier3 BS tank god now? -this matches a Mael for this fit style. It's down to cap-needing guns & nos vs capless guns, minor differences in tracking, applied dps within tackle range, ECM vs drones behaviour vs slightly higher base sensor strength. Oh yeah and price, engageability.
A heavy Nos brings you back to mixed guns to avoid the PG rig, and less damage mods (think TEs). Someone feel free to point out if it's worth it after considering cycle times and different neuting pressures.
Bringing the web back, for the same tank as the first fit:
[Dominix, Large Neutrons?! XL ASBs m nos? 3 +web]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Berserker II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Ogre II x5
Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Now slightly up again to 1374dps dealt.
Without trying to sort the PG limitation, free CPU leads to favouring more damage mods rather than bigger highslot modules, which are then not entirely predictable as to which are best at each CPU limitation/stepping (MFS vs DDA), IIRC 6 Guns still wants 3 MFS before 2+2 even using Ogres max paper dps.
Ophichius
June 23 2012, 07:27:21 PM
The only way to get those quoted tank numbers is with a Tengu alt. Freestanding tank is much, much lower.
700-ish sustained on your first fit, 900 on your second.
-O
prometheus
June 23 2012, 07:29:23 PM
im asssuming thats supposed to be for station games, because that's totally useless otherwise.
Daneel Trevize
June 23 2012, 07:31:18 PM
It's literally whatever you'd use an active Maelstrom and other similar BSs for. So yes, stations & gates mostly, and yes lowsec no holds barred force multipliers.
Lex Fasces
June 23 2012, 08:23:56 PM
It's literally whatever you'd use an active Maelstrom and other similar BSs for. So yes, stations & gates mostly, and yes lowsec no holds barred force multipliers.
see my lossmail. it doesnt work nearly as well as a maelstrom as you have literally half the tank.
your 4k dps tank runs out in 30 seconds...
derp server rollback ate my post
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16769793
that was without crystals but with tengu boosts.
literally couldnt tank them with a single heated booster. had to use 2 and barely tanked them until i ran out of cap charges and then cap.
just stick with a mael
Daneel Trevize
June 24 2012, 12:28:11 AM
You have exactly the same tank as a dual XL ASB Mael. 3k per booster, not 4 unless you're counting drugs (unless PyFA is lying to me). 1T2+1T1 shield boost amp comes out the same as the ASB Mael with 2xT2 because that has a CPU rig rather than the stacked EM resist rig.
Running without HG Crystals of course makes a difference...
Shit PyFA's fucking this up, isn't applying Mael's hull bonus. 3006.1 per ASB on both a Tempest and a Mael with the same tank mods & multipliers :facepalm:
Scorpion should still be very comparable for tank, but less dps dealt.
Lex Fasces
June 24 2012, 06:34:42 PM
You have exactly the same tank as a dual XL ASB Mael. 3k per booster, not 4 unless you're counting drugs (unless PyFA is lying to me). 1T2+1T1 shield boost amp comes out the same as the ASB Mael with 2xT2 because that has a CPU rig rather than the stacked EM resist rig.
Running without HG Crystals of course makes a difference...
Shit PyFA's fucking this up, isn't applying Mael's hull bonus. 3006.1 per ASB on both a Tempest and a Mael with the same tank mods & multipliers :facepalm:
Scorpion should still be very comparable for tank, but less dps dealt.
the mael has more tank and more buffer in shield.
but sure go lose a domi over testing it =) i certainly wont be using it again
n0th
February 21 2013, 07:44:23 PM
Bringing Battleship Solo back?
[Dominix, dumpsterzone]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Micro Jump Drive
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large YF-12a Smartbomb
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Ogre II x5
Berserker II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x10
Hornet EC-300 x5
p excited to try this in less blobby 0.0 areas.
700ish DPS tanked on top of actual armor buffer and GTFO butans
Not sure if Sentries are more useful to chase off Falcons etc.
Tyrus Tenebros
June 7 2013, 05:50:31 AM
Dominix OP as predicted:
http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=86848
Hostiles also had an abaddon
http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=86844
Also had about 4-5 bombers and an artynado towards the end. Chased 2 bombers off early, neuted out a blackbird. Ruppie died untackled.
http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=86850 (went for the bait vex by accident, lookit dat tank /o\ Prophecy had a scram which is what finished me there, couldn't neut him off)
KMs linked for proof-of-concept. Fit here because I died in it so it's available anyways:
[Dominix, Tyrus Tenebros's Dominix]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II,Cap Booster 800
Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I
Large Micro Jump Drive
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large YF-12a Smartbomb
Large YF-12a Smartbomb
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
Garde II x5
Hornet EC-300 x4
Valkyrie II x5
Vespa EC-600 x3
Warrior II x5
The lack of an MWD is a pain in the ass, admittedly, but the MJD gets you out. I did lose a talos kill because of the no-propping.
Otherwise, Ogres tracked everything in the first 2 fights with the exception of bombers, but that's only because they were too far away.
EHP is p. n1
Fit had an ACR on it from pre-oddysey rigging.
You can add more heavy neuts, I keep the mediums on so I can keep smaller stuff capped out that might otherwise regen cap. It's a good balance IMO. Smartbombs took care of drones admirably, but an EM/Explo mix is technically better for clearing certain drone types. ECM drones have next to no EHP anyways so they clear in one cycle. Also a good way to pod people after they die.
Overall I approve and it was exactly what I wanted out of it.
Marlona Sky
June 7 2013, 06:34:00 AM
Sorry, but killing a couple EVE-U guys in frigates hardly classifies a ship as OP.
Tyrus Tenebros
June 7 2013, 04:24:16 PM
Sorry, but killing a couple EVE-U guys in frigates hardly classifies a ship as OP.
The point isn't killing a few frigates.
The point is upengaging true-solo, getting multiple kills, and then escaping the engagement intact.
Using multiple weapons at various engagement ranges including:
Ogres tracking and killing frigates (and cruisers)
Warriors (and valks) forcing bombers off the field/killing them
Gardes popped the rupture
Smartbombs defeating drone threats (incl. Ec-) and scoring a podkill
Neuts mitigating the hostile baddon AND blackbird (and ECCM to tide over until it was cap dead)
MJD to disengage after the fight became too lopsided.
It was impressive especially with the numbers at the end of the E-uni fight, and surviving as long as I did vs CAS.
Its a really, really powerful solo ship.
Shin_getter
June 7 2013, 04:55:49 PM
I wonder if a Geddon would be better at what you are doing with the ship. Sure damage application against small stuff suffers, but its not like they'll be doing anything with a bunch of heavy neuts on them.
OrangeAfroMan
June 7 2013, 05:52:04 PM
Maybe Curators instead of Gardes for a ranged option? Also diff damage type
Tyrus Tenebros
June 7 2013, 10:08:15 PM
Maybe Curators instead of Gardes for a ranged option? Also diff damage type
I did find myself wanting a 50-60 range option (gardes shoot to 36+12 at max skill) but with the lack of mobility that's more something to avoid.
Warrior/valk reach out to bombers well, and the farde range and tracking combo is perfect to hit most midrange kiters.
I did sometimes find myself frustrated though, and if the dps/tracking tradeoff isn't toooo bad it coild be good
LordsServant
June 7 2013, 10:45:01 PM
I originally designed these for use in PVE, but I think they'd apply just as well in PVP if you include tackle(and/or tackling ship).
[Dominix, Pentacle(tm)]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Internal Force Field Array I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Large Capacitor Battery II
Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large 'Regard' Power Projector
Large 'Regard' Power Projector
Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Remote Repair Augmentor I
Large Remote Repair Augmentor I
Garde II x5
751 dps out to 70-75k np.
92.1k EHP(pre-boosts), cap stable npnp.
Fairly neut-resistant w/the batteries, npnpnp.
I think I would probably swap to a mixture of neuts/smartbombs like tyrus fit if I was rolling in a proper fleet w/other ppl running the logi instead of my ONE_MAN_ARMY. ;)
Smuggo
June 7 2013, 11:24:54 PM
Just 5 drones in your domi?
Tyrus Tenebros
June 8 2013, 02:26:00 AM
Just 5 drones in your domi?
0/10
LordsServant
June 8 2013, 02:38:23 AM
Just 5 drones in your domi?
0/10
Shin_getter
June 9 2013, 12:19:42 AM
Is there any studies on how much DPS is effectively increased with domi's new bonuses against various targets, especially for heavy drones? People must have at least a rule of thumb at least for drone selection right?
OrangeAfroMan
June 9 2013, 12:40:22 AM
They have ridiculously good tracking, even gardes. I'll have to do some eft graphing.
Tyrus Tenebros
June 9 2013, 03:15:43 AM
Is there any studies on how much DPS is effectively increased with domi's new bonuses against various targets, especially for heavy drones? People must have at least a rule of thumb at least for drone selection right?
Ogres more or less perfectly track scram/webbed Frigates. EFT suggests this and in-game results seem to confirm. I was almost literally two-volleying the frigates that I killed. The talwar got in just a few. It's brutally effective.
The Gardes easily tracked the artillery rupture @ roughly 25km. They also tracked a full velocity talos though I'm not sure how well he was actually transversing.
W0lf Crendraven
June 9 2013, 11:00:12 AM
Eft and drones doesnt work, eft assumes drones are like missiles afaik, so as long as their mwd speed is greater then your targets speed they will be shown to be doing full dps.
Tyrus Tenebros
June 9 2013, 08:16:06 PM
Eft and drones doesnt work, eft assumes drones are like missiles afaik, so as long as their mwd speed is greater then your targets speed they will be shown to be doing full dps.
Meh yeah that's why I said I saw it work live :shrug:
OrangeAfroMan
June 9 2013, 10:04:24 PM
Except sentries.
Btw Garde IIs have 45km optimal on a Domi
Tyrus Tenebros
June 10 2013, 01:02:20 AM
Except sentries.
Btw Garde IIs have 45km optimal on a Domi
Yeah I realized that after I made my longer post, I think my issues in the 40-60 range were due to tracking (I was trying to snipe frigs at those ranges) not the actual optimal range as I should be covering out to 57 fairly easily.
If you put 1x Tracking Link in the mids, you get something like 56k optimal which basically puts everything in non-boosted drone control range in to Garde Optimal (plus you get better tracking on those gardes too) so that might "fix" the issue. The ECCM was on my fit because of falcon/blackbird (and indeed I didn't get jammed by a blackbird so hey)
OrangeAfroMan
June 10 2013, 04:12:15 AM
Basically it might be worth trading the eccm and a smartbomb (plus upgrade to 3 heavy neut) for a drone control mod and drone tracking comp... Maybe swap gardes for bouncers?
Tyrus Tenebros
June 11 2013, 04:12:47 AM
Basically it might be worth trading the eccm and a smartbomb (plus upgrade to 3 heavy neut) for a drone control mod and drone tracking comp... Maybe swap gardes for bouncers?
I ran all the numbers for smartbombs, you really want 2 (also you want them to be kinetic, unless you're faction SBing, in which case, thermal)
I'll post the spreadsheet soon(tm).
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