[PVE] Thanatos

[kzig]

Before anyone asks, yes, I have actually flown this. It isn't much good for afk mining, as the drones fill up the relatively small cargo hold in 2 cycles. However, the corp hangar provides some useful spare capacity while your hauler is going back to the station. Also, DCUs, like cloaks, are active modules but do not consume cap. I didn't know that until I first tried to use one, so I thought I'd mention it here.

[Thanatos, Carrier Mining]

Improved Cloaking Device II
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I

Sensor Booster II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Capital Armor Repairer I
Capital Armor Repairer I

Large Drone Mining Augmentor I
Large Drone Mining Augmentor I
Large Drone Mining Augmentor I


Warrior II x10
Mining Drone II x14
Valkyrie II x10
Heavy Shield Maintenance Bot I x10
Templar x9
Einherji x10
Wasp EC-900 x10
Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I x10
Vespa EC-600 x10
Warden II x10
Garde II x10

[bundus]

I won't ask if you fly this, rather where ....

[kzig]

I did get caught once, but I logged off with the reps active and it survived without any significant armour damage.

[Meridith]

Wtf is this shit.

[Ralara]

Err this is the PvP section...

[Ædward]

Err this is the PvP section...

Bait Thanny. Let's face it, you couldn't resist tackling a mining cap could you?

[Helen]

Oh what the fuck :/

[Shin_getter]

Does it mine faster then a hulk?

[Warmenhoven]

...actually flown this [carrier]...Also, DCUs, like cloaks, are active modules but do not consume cap. I didn't know that until I first tried to use one

what??????

How did you manage to get to carriers and not know how a DCU works?

Ninjaedit: it does actually consume cap btw =p

[Wrack]

what??????

How did you manage to get to carriers and not know how a DCU works?

Ninjaedit: it does actually consume cap btw =p

Drone control unit, not damage control :facepalm:

[Mr Marram]

in the hope that this thread will be nuked im getting a +1 in now.

[bundus]

By the way whats the sensor booster for? Locking those rocks before they warp away?

[noobcake]

in the hope that this thread will be nuked im getting a +1 in now.

voting ban for you. It's a pve thanatos thread posted in the right sub-forum...

[kzig]

voting ban for you. It's a pve thanatos thread posted in the right sub-forum...

Well, if I'd described this as a bona fide bait fit I suppose it could have remained in the PVP section, where it was originally posted, but my original intention when using it was in fact mining. Therefore, I accept that I posted this in the wrong sub-forum and I thank Helen for moving it.


Does it mine faster then a hulk?

Depending on the number of drones you can control, it gets up to about half the rate of a hulk. The tank is slightly better, though.

[Mr Marram]

voting ban for you. It's a pve thanatos thread posted in the right sub-forum...

As op said above, it was posted in pvp thread originally, it doesn't even get 50% mining rate of a hulk at nearly than 5x the cost for the hull alone (that makes isk/efficiency comparison of about 10% at best) and a much longer training time. It's just a massive waste of time, ISK and effort for nothing.

Using DCUs to use more mining drones :psyduck:

[Ralara]

[Thanatos, Ratting]
Capital Armor Repairer I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution

Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Templar x15




Has enough cap to jump at any point. Replace templars with whatever you have as local rats.

[Imca]

Fit target painters?

drop cap rechargers?

maybe fit mwd?

fit whatever you want?

Your local rep will be inactive almost forever if you kill the rats fast enough so dont need that much energy

[Ralara]

Fit target painters? Not needed. Although I have used them before, they're not required.


drop cap rechargers? Why?


maybe fit mwd? Why?


fit whatever you want?

Your local rep will be inactive almost forever if you kill the rats fast enough so dont need that much energy Standard low slot fit for a thanny. Put heat sinks in for all i care.

[Imca]

afaik your fighters hit better with target painters and 2 or 3 painters allow you to target multiple rats.

since you also want 2 sensor boosters you dont have room for rechargers.

MWD is sometimes usefull for faster align after jumping somewhere.

[Ralara]

I regularly do it with 3 carriers at once + a BS - I dont have time to target paint stuff :)

[Imca]

I regularly do it with 3 carriers at once + a BS - I dont have time to target paint stuff :)

:facepalm:

ok you win :P

but 3 carriers + BS sounds like you go nuts after 30 minutes of ratting.

nyx + thanny is already a clickfest (with the painters on various targets;) )

[Itiken]

Jesus how do you mange this.
Vargur + Tengu is bad enough.....

[Ralara]

Easy. BS targets the small shit, carriers kill BS :)

[Itiken]

But all that clicking man!
Oh wait sentries auto-agro don't they ?
nvm i'm fucking terrible.

[Ralara]

But all that clicking man!
Oh wait sentries auto-agro don't they ?
nvm i'm fucking terrible.

I use fighters, not sentries.

Sentries are nice, until they have almost no hit points and if they're primaried you spend more time bringing them back in and redeploying them that tbh fighters work nicely.

[Muffinsrevenger]

what about 3x trannies with fighters and + 1x rapier with lowslots for buffer and full tackle+paints in the mids?

[Sponk]

what about 3x trannies with fighters and + 1x rapier with lowslots for buffer and full tackle+paints in the mids?
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[Mr Marram]

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[Ralara]

what about 3x trannies with fighters and + 1x rapier with lowslots for buffer and full tackle+paints in the mids?

:effort:

1) it's not required

2) I've attempted it before - there's just way too much fiddling about target painting targets, webbibg, broadcasting, whilst keeping an eye on the health of fighters across that many carrier accounts.

Tripple boxing nyxes is the way to go :D

[Mr Marram]

:effort:

1) it's not required

2) I've attempted it before - there's just way too much fiddling about target painting targets, webbibg, broadcasting, whilst keeping an eye on the health of fighters across that many carrier accounts.

Tripple boxing nyxes is the way to go :D

You can remote assign fighters but not FBs, c/d?

[Helen]

Correct but you wouldn't use FB's for PvE anyway.

[Ralara]

You can remote assign fighters but not FBs, c/d?

as helen says.

Before the FB nerf, they were worth using - 3 target painters + 24/5 FBs on a asteroid haven or something where they all spawn close together would make use of the ~10k DPS output but not now - they can barely hit BS.

Fighters is the way to go :)

[Grarr Dexx]

Fuck off.

[Ralara]

*cocks head*

[Helen]

Fuck off.

I know lets get constructive or you can fuck off.

[LordsServant]

:fhc moderators:

[Pacefalm]

:best moderators:

[Sponk]

I'm terrible at PvE but would this work?

[Thanatos, Abomination]
Capital Armor Repairer I
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution

Capital Remote Armor Repairer I
Capital Shield Transporter I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
True Sansha Large EMP Smartbomb

Large Sentry damage augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

15 x Garde II

[Mr Marram]

I'm terrible at PvE but would this work?

[Thanatos, Abomination]
Capital Armor Repairer I
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution

Capital Remote Armor Repairer I
Capital Shield Transporter I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
True Sansha Large EMP Smartbomb

Large Sentry damage augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

15 x Garde II

What's the stats like with the drone damage mods and rig?

[kyrieee]

I'm terrible at PvE but would this work?

[Thanatos, Abomination]
Capital Armor Repairer I
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Extrinsic Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution

Capital Remote Armor Repairer I
Capital Shield Transporter I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
True Sansha Large EMP Smartbomb

Large Sentry damage augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

15 x Garde II

Something people always seem to forget when EFTing ratting sentry Carriers is that their Drone Control Range is only 60km. The control range bonus only applies to fighters.

Maybe they've changed anoms, but when I did them you had to be able to hit at 100km+ which means 2 Drone Link Augmentors, or one really expensive one. I also don't think you have enough lock range. The drones are unbonused, so with Carrier V you have 10 sentries vs 7.5 effective sentries on an Ishtar. It's not a big increase and it's not a lot of DPS, especially for the risk you take by being stationary.

If you want to rat in a Carrier then you might as well fit as many DCUs as you can (Adv. Drone Interfacing IV checking in). In my experience I found that Fighters worked better in practice, but I was dualboxing and had another ship shoot the frigs. Split the fighters into two groups to reduce the effects of travel time. With fighters you can also stay aligned and at jump cap more easily.

[Daddymimmyium]

what about 3x trannies with fighters and + 1x rapier with lowslots for buffer and full tackle+paints in the mids?
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