[PVP] Armageddon Navy Issue

[Rania Serlia]

Was thinking of picking one of these up for pimp battleship fleet night(fantastic looking ship). Take Venerable Geddon fit--->add web---> Profit??

[Armageddon Navy Issue, Ganka]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Warp Disruptor I

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Berserker II x5
Warrior II x10

1098/1224 dps, 927/1028 scorch, 204k ehp with LG slaves(but before gang etc.). Neut, mwd, web, and disrupt, what more could you want(aside from a full rack of megapulse to fit with the above ofc)?
Honestly, aside from the looks(and the sexy midslot...), the thing that most draws me to this ship is the ability to carry light drones without dropping a heavy. Probably too much time spent in Armageddons with 4 heavy drones though made me bitter to the concept.

Faction pimpage for cpu, with the side effect of moar deeps and eehps, which is welcome. Can ofc use the old geddon pilot trick of centii-C ANPs to solve your cpu issues, but there's a bit of an ehp hit.

EDIT for spelling derp amgageddons-->Armageddons

[Kyle Semones]

because i dont have t2 large lazors or want to pay for a bhaalgorn....

[Armageddon Navy Issue, TOO POOR FOR BHAAL]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Warp Disruptor II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
-----------------

at only 240m, its a 3 for 1 deal compared to Bhaalgorn!

All V's no implants/bonus:::
ehp - 148913
Armor - 34906 resists - 66.5% avg
Dps - 728 / 790 hot @ 3+24 (comparable dps and range, wayyyy more tracking than bhaal)
M/S - 792 / 1130
Cap stable as long as you have boosters w/o mwd


not as good as the bhaal, but better than a mini-bhaal geddon.
more cap stable with proj. with better tracking by far and damage selection.

[Tordin Varglund]

wtf is this shit

[Mr Marram]

wtf is this shit

Yea really, I have been drinking and this still looks like shite.

If you want a bhaal, GET ONE and fit it with fucking lasers, dont bastardise this beauty with ACs

[Badboy K]

[Armageddon Navy Issue, PVP - Buffer]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Warp Disruptor II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
[empty high slot]

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

needs 1% pg implant



or

[Armageddon Navy Issue: Fleet mega pulse]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
100MN MicroWarpdrive II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5

needs 3% PG implant

[RoemySchneider]

8 low slots on a faction bs?

this can only mean one thing!


[Armageddon Navy Issue, New Setup 1]
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Damage Control II

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Disruptor II

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
[empty high slot]

Large Energy Collision Accelerator I
Large Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
Large Algid Energy Administrations Unit I

176k eHP

[Pacefalm]

Fit it with small hybrids and a probe launcher while you're at it

[RoemySchneider]

base speed is too low

[Badboy K]

any active/solo setups ?

[LordsServant]

I have a loltriplerep version sitting in my hanger unused so far....iirc it's dual heavy and u don't have enough pg to fit a prop mod.

It's basically a bait ship. "lol faction bs....engage" then u triple rep and tank whilst tackling shinies and pew Ewing cruiser sized stuff.

I'm sure other stuff does it better but 1) Im filthy rich(sorta) 2) I'm in amarr fw so NIGs are free(Navy Issue Geddon).

-Lords

Ps- when I can I'll put the fit up here....on my iPad ATM semi busy.

[Tordin Varglund]

triple rep

mind=blown

[Rudolf Miller]

I compared a test fit of an Ngeddon to Garmon's vindi. I'm here to say you should go with Garm's vindi if you want active solo.

[Daneel Trevize]

Mate you should see the NMega if you want tank.
Also, triple-rep Hyp/Abby for cheap lols.

[Lunkwill]

Given the recent discussion on the SNI 'hellcat', I present the GNI 'hellcat'

[Armageddon Navy Issue, fleet fit]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[Empty High slot]

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heat Sink II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Bouncer II x5

507dps @58.5+16.4 turrets
263dps @60+42 drones (+50m3 for whatever)
187k ehp, 792m/s

Better speed, lower dps without drones, better dps with drones, less alpha, better cap, better resists (except EM), 5% lower EHP and similar price to the Hellcat (before insurance). Compared the discussed SNI it has similar EHP, worse resists, less speed, better dps (drones), worse cap and better price.

[LordsServant]

NIG's have always been very nicely comparable to Hellcats. They've just gotten even closer with their prices crashing and Abaddon's pricing skyrocketing.

What I don't like is it has a very nice utility high slot that's extremely hard to utilize.


[Armageddon Navy Issue, Fleet]
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating

Shadow Serpentis 100MN MicroWarpdrive
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
True Sansha Medium EMP Smartbomb

Large Anti-EM Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Bouncer II x5


That's your only real choice as far as standard fleet fits go. You can't fit a heavy neut on there without compromising other things/dropping to a medium cap injetor, which in turn rapes your cap so hard that you wouldn't want to be neuting anyways.

The smartbomb is designed to be permarun to reduce incoming missile spam - sorta like a firewall.

As a side note, I wasn't trying to design a hellcat SNI, I was using the hellcat as a comparison as it's the closest thing to what the SNI would do. I feel that the SNI brings a lot of new options to the table and would work in situations where hellcats(both abaddon or NIGs) wouldn't.

[StevieTopSiders]

Aren't those just Nulli PANIC! Geddon fits?

[Mfume]

Aren't those just Nulli PANIC! Geddon fits?

Nah, lack of a sensor booster gives it away.

[Sponk]

No second heat sink?

Blah blah tapatalk

[LordsServant]

Aren't those just Nulli PANIC! Geddon fits?

I'm not familiar with nulli, nor their PANIC! Geddon fits. It might be?

No second heat sink as the particular fits I'm tossing out are specifically for large scale/heavily outnumbered fights, aka tank > gank generally speaking.

If you want something for your average losec gang or people not expecting to be outnumbered, you're looking more at...


[Armageddon Navy Issue, Chillin wit Ma NIGs]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Internal Force Field Array I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Target Painter II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Garde II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5

You only need one tracking computer as range is much less of an issue; the target painter allows your lower numbers to hit smaller targets much better than a second tracking computer. Medium injector is fine as you will most likely be moving much less, and a heavy neut is much more useful as your staying power (cap stability) isn't required to be as long.

Also, ofc you have much less ehp/resists, but have quite a bit more dps.

Most fights will be brief(<1h) and there will be less chance of enemies constantly reshipping into large hulls and bridging in.