[PVP] Taranis

[Podcat]

[Taranis, std dualprop]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

1MN Afterburner II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II


Warrior II x2




[Taranis, std rails]
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Warrior II x2

[Tyrus Tenebros]

It's old but I honestly still like the ion standard fit:

[Taranis, StandardIons]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Warrior II x2


Out damages podcats "standard dualprop" and has better falloff due to the TE.

257 vanilla dps.
311 implants+heat.

[prometheus]

I flew one of these recently.
Was a fun throwback with these fun implanted/overheated numbers:
Null - 307
Antimatter - 375
Void - 414


[Taranis, Hard(est)core]
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Digital Booster Rockets
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Hobgoblin II x2

Was real fun until I died to a thrasher -__-

[Belid Hagen]

I'd like to see you get a digital booster these days.

[Beh3motH]

[Taranis, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Warrior II x2

My ab ranis. Prefer this one over dual prop. Dessent damage with some rep abilitys

Dps: 231

[Tyrus Tenebros]

If you're gonna go AB only...

[Taranis, RailABRanis]
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Hobgoblin II x2

[prometheus]

I'd like to see you get a digital booster these days.
Contracts?
I literally flew the ship like a month ago :|

[Sparkus Volundar]

[Taranis, PvP - Blasters - Full tackle]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2

T2 scram fits with the high price meta 4 DC.
299dps of heated love.

Sparks

[Belid Hagen]

I'd like to see you get a digital booster these days.
Contracts?
I literally flew the ship like a month ago :|

unless you want to spend 300mil, and get a shit load of rubbish with the purchase, then there's none on the contract market anywhere.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

[quote="Belid Hagen":1si3295m]I'd like to see you get a digital booster these days.
Contracts?
I literally flew the ship like a month ago :|

unless you want to spend 300mil, and get a shit load of rubbish with the purchase, then there's none on the contract market anywhere.[/quote:1si3295m]There's a BPC up for 5m Buyout in Hek now.

[Pascal Almaric]

There's a BPC up for 5m Buyout in Hek now.

But doesn't building them involve unusual technology skills and a bunch of crap that drops in low level Minamatar COSMOS plexes? I think there is an unusually wide gap between the BPC and the thing itself, in this case.

[Jaxley]

I dun like rails:


[Taranis, Blastem]

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
1MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x2


230 DPS, 3.25km+5.08km w/ Null S
262 DPS, 1.24km+3.90km w/ AM

[Sponk]

ZET300 implants ftw

[cillisia]

ZET300 implants ftw

yeah that extra ~50hull hp is uber...

[Shiodome]

an extra 5% ehp is nothing to be sneezed at, most of my fun taranis fights end in either a sliver of hull or me popped with the other guy in low hull... i.e that realm where if you get that last shot of first you win and he he does he wins. :D wouldn't mind that little bit extra there for a trivial 700k isk. the other alternative for the slot is zor's which is a great implant but is more important for cruisers than frigs imo (and costs 28x more).

[cillisia]

yeah i know, i've had a ranis vs ranis fight that i've left in less than 3% hull before, in fact i thought i'd actually popped and had the implant in then so i guess its paid for itself before. it does make a lot more difference on stronger hulled ship though, i keep meaning to put one in on my orca alt actually :P

oh btw the cheap zet300 is actually a 3% increase, the one up from that costs a lot more iirc

[Raz]

I dun like rails:


[Taranis, Blastem]

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
1MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x2


230 DPS, 3.25km+5.08km w/ Null S
262 DPS, 1.24km+3.90km w/ AM

No rigs :psyduck:

[Jaxley]

It can't fit any rigs I'd want or need on that ship. Powergrid's full, don't wanna gimp speed or armor, shield would be pointless as well as more cap.

If you absolutely have to, you can slap an Ancillary on it to fit a Col.

[Raz]

If you absolutely have to, you can slap an Ancillary on it to fit a Burst.

Why wouldn't you? In what circumstance is more DPS not worth the cost of an ACR and a burst rig?

In other news, your rainbow dash taranis avatar is made of win.

[Jaxley]

I'm just that cheap I guess. :?

Also *brohoof*

[Sudden]

If you absolutely have to, you can slap an Ancillary on it to fit a Burst.

Why wouldn't you? In what circumstance is more DPS not worth the cost of an ACR and a burst rig?

In other news, your rainbow dash taranis avatar is made of win.

I hate ponies but godamn who did that avatar, its nice

[Jaxley]

I did it myself.

[Vincent II]

[Taranis, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2


Drop 1 neutron for an ion lets you go for 2 damage rigs instead of fitting an ACR.
234dps 274 with hobs 309 overloaded.

[Waylan Yutani]

[Taranis, pvp ranis]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Local Hull Conversion Reinforced Bulkheads I
Internal Force Field Array I

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Patterned Stasis Web I
1MN Afterburner II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2

[Wensley]

[Taranis, pvp ranis]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Local Hull Conversion Reinforced Bulkheads I
Internal Force Field Array I

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Patterned Stasis Web I
1MN Afterburner II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2

Use X5 web and Pseudo for better webbing and less ISK spend.

[Varrent]

After reading this thread, It might just be me who does this... but I actually like to put an SAR on my Taranis, along with a NOS. I also go AB/Scram/Web as I live in losec and there is no need to fit a MWD to run camps. Anyhow, here is my fit.

[Taranis, Hull Tank]
Damage Control II
Small Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Light Electron Blaster II, Null S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2

[Tekedo]

[Taranis, pvp ranis]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Local Hull Conversion Reinforced Bulkheads I
Internal Force Field Array I

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Patterned Stasis Web I
1MN Afterburner II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2

Use X5 web and Pseudo for better webbing and less ISK spend.

Also the burst rig gives more dps than the collision rig. Disregard if you are deliberately going for the higher alpha.

[Jaxley]

Burst rigs make you lose a considerable chunk of overheat time though. Not worth the tiny dps gain.

[Shiodome]

i use burst rigs all the time, and for frig fights i've never had a fight last longer than my guns can overheat? *shrug* against anything bigger than a frig i don't tend to bother overheating anyway.

[Podcat]

i use burst rigs all the time, and for frig fights i've never had a fight last longer than my guns can overheat? *shrug* against anything bigger than a frig i don't tend to bother overheating anyway.

this. however they do use a little more cap with burst rig, so if you are being neuted or plan to fight curses in your deimos etc collision is better (same with slicer)

[Kishin Hattori]

Noticed the Mag stabbed Ranis and thought I'd throw another possibility to use two MS's.

[Taranis, DPS]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1mn Afterburner II
J5b Prototype Warp Scrambler
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Light Ion Blaster II
Salvager I - offlined.

Small Hybrid Burst I
Small Hybrid Collision I

Hobgoblin II x2

1369m/s

3,876 ehp

292/330 dps at 0.9+2.5km CNA
241/271 dps at 2.3+3.1km NULL

This fit seems pretty self explanatory. Just another potential way of pumping out some great DPS figures. If you dropped the DCU to a meta3/4 you'd fit a MWD on there no problems.

[fng]

Noticed the Mag stabbed Ranis and thought I'd throw another possibility to use two MS's.

[Taranis, DPS]

I used to fly this with pseudoelectron DC, 2 neutrons and 1 ion; or when I had money ACR, burst aerator II, and full neutron rack.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Noticed the Mag stabbed Ranis and thought I'd throw another possibility to use two MS's.

[Taranis, DPS]If you dropped the DCU to a meta3/4 you'd fit a MWD on there no problems.
Nobody need to be told that the AB-only ranis is a rape-train :)

problem is actually managing to get and finish fights in it....

[Rania Serlia]

Newfangled afterburner only setups make me sad panda in 0.0.

This is my old fit(minor tweaks for modernization), back in the day *feels EVE old* got (on)hundreds of kills in it while I was training for that nice 300m isk+fitting vaga hull(ah, the old days). I flew/fly it primarily as initial tackle/scout for small gangs.

[Taranis, Ion+Nosf]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Small Armor Repairer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Warp Scrambler II

E5 Prototype Energy Vampire
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2

DPS is weaker than a MFS setup(227/255), or neutron setup, but overall I liked the rep+nosf in 0.0 due to nobody ever brought a RR syndrome. Might have to work up a non MAPC fit for use now but I think I still have quite a few of these scattered about the galaxy with T2 MWDs, no/large rigs and long points on. Good tackle in a gang, and capable of facemelting most frigates to this day no problems. Fit still looks solid to me, but inb4 dramielraep. Might have to try one of 'dem fancy dualprop setups afterall. :cut:

[Itiken]

THis is tickling my fancy right now - similar to the above Ion Fit with a bit of added Neutron:

[Taranis, AB Blaster MK2]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Ion Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

Hobgoblin II x2

<3 that "suprise i'm hitting you at 7km" factor.

[Jaxley]

You can fit a full rack of neutrons no problem, like here (http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?233-Taranis&p=23857&viewfull=1#post23857). Add PG and burst rig -> more range, marginally less dps. I don't think tracking's much of an issue.

(If a mod could fix that quote a bit down below my post that'd be great btw. Forum update messed up bbcode fontsize.)

[Itiken]

, marginally less dps.
:sadface:

However you have the most awesome avatar in the history of awesome avatars, so you are automatically right :)

[Sparkus Volundar]

It can't fit any rigs I'd want or need on that ship. Powergrid's full, don't wanna gimp speed or armor, shield would be pointless as well as more cap.

If you absolutely have to, you can slap an Ancillary on it to fit a Col.

Targeting System Subcontroller I, best Subcontroller.

[ValorousBob]

I dun like rails:


[Taranis, Blastem]

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S

J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
1MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x2


230 DPS, 3.25km+5.08km w/ Null S
262 DPS, 1.24km+3.90km w/ AM

Whats with the offline salvager? Someone mentioned that offline mods soak up some of the heat damage or something?

[Jaxley]

Eeyup.

Plus if you stumble upon a lone T2 wreck you can just offline your TE real quick and get yourself some T2 salvage. :spacepoor:

[Raz]

Whats with the offline salvager? Someone mentioned that offline mods soak up some of the heat damage or something?

Yeah, there is an overheating thread showthread.php?527-TMA-Overheating-and-Thermodynamics (http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?527-TMA-Overheating-and-Thermodynamics).

The summary is that offline mods soak up heat the same way an empty slot does (more than say, an online yet inactive mod). The only reason to put in an offline mod is in the case of something that can be useful to online between fights like the salvager for battlefield profit.

[Lady Spank]

The few times I've been involved in fleet ops in the last couple of years, off-lined small armour reps have come in extremely handy halfway through the roam to rep up a fair bit of damage so we can more gloriously DIAF at a slightly later time.

[Ohh_No]

The few times I've been involved in fleet ops in the last couple of years.

Dragon fleet lockdown

Most fun I've ever had in EVE.

[Warmenhoven]

Just a bit of theory crafting (i usually fly the rail or dual prop version) but i was wondering how you guys think a MSE fit would work? Obv intended for lowsec as it only has an AB but natural shield resits should help against warriors and once you are underneath guns? Probably be best in small gangs of frigs taking on larger ships as it doesn't have much hope against frigs 1v1 with no range control.



[Taranis, Shield]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
1MN Afterburner II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x2

1369/1791 m/s
220/247 DPS
6918 EHP (2258 shields)

Can fill em hole with rig for 100 or so less EHP, can also swap teh DCUII for another MFSII to give 5k ehp and 255/287 DPS.

[prometheus]

done it long before, not worth the effort IMO.
not fast enough to catch most things, not damaging enough to capitalize on that buffer.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

done it long before, not worth the effort IMO.
not fast enough to catch most things, not damaging enough to capitalize on that buffer.In fairness it has some application to shield fleets where the extra buffer might give you a few seconds of life, but in that case if your primary role is tackle you might want to fly an MSE ares instead.

edit: to clarify, that would be in fleets that won't benefit from the extra ~200 dps the 'ranis has over the ares. In smaller gangs it might still be better to get the Deeps from the 'ranis.

[Shiodome]

imo taranis is too fucking slow to bother with as a gang tackler. extra deeps or not.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

imo taranis is too fucking slow to bother with as a gang tackler. extra deeps or not.Also I failed to noticed that was an AB fit under discussion :|

[Cearain]

I'm looking at flying a double mag stab and dcu, web scram ab2, blaster fit. I'm not sure how I would want to fly it though.

If I get in close and orbit at 500 with ab overloaded will I be able to hit another frigate if I have void loaded? What if the ab is not overloaded and just running?

Is void worth using for anything other than destroyers or larger targets? What ammo are people using?

[Mr Marram]

I'm looking at flying a double mag stab and dcu, web scram ab2, blaster fit. I'm not sure how I would want to fly it though.

If I get in close and orbit at 500 with ab overloaded will I be able to hit another frigate if I have void loaded? What if the ab is not overloaded and just running?

Is void worth using for anything other than destroyers or larger targets? What ammo are people using?

Rule of thumb: Only use void if you are shooting a ship class up from yours, so frigate > crusier > BS.
So frig vs frig, dont bother just stick with faction AM.

[Tsubutai]

Rule of thumb: Only use void if you are shooting a ship class up from yours, so frigate > crusier > BS.
So frig vs frig, dont bother just stick with faction AM.
Void (and t2 high damage ammo in general) works just fine against same-class targets if you can dictate range and ensure low transversal. Just don't blindly mash 'orbit at 500', which is not always (or even often) a good thing to be doing in the first place in 1vN scram-range frig fights, where your primary objective is generally to kill whatever you're currently fighting as soon as possible so as to ensure that you're not tackled when his buddies start dropping out of warp or catching up.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

I'm looking at flying a double mag stab and dcu, web scram ab2, blaster fit. I'm not sure how I would want to fly it though.

If I get in close and orbit at 500 with ab overloaded will I be able to hit another frigate if I have void loaded? What if the ab is not overloaded and just running?

Is void worth using for anything other than destroyers or larger targets? What ammo are people using?Since you'll probably be orbiting with the AB (some damage mitigation, you have tracking bonus), use AM and orbit. If you use void, you'll probably be using "keep at range" and just trying to massively out-DPS your opponent.

IMO that works best using the absurd DPS of the daredevil, not the ranis.

[OrangeAfroMan]

A variation on the Ions + TE II setup posted on page one. I may actually try this instead of my typical dualprop for soloing.

[Taranis, x]
Damage Control II
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Salvager I /OFFLINE
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Warrior II x2

284 DPS w/ heat instead of 290 DPS on the Ions, but more falloff, optimal, and alpha. Slightly longer scram as well. Also needs a 1% pg implant.

Plus anything but Neutrons on a 'ranis feels weird.

[Sudden]

Dragon fleet lockdown

Most fun I've ever had in EVE.

[Kn1v3s]

Beside 0.0 i'm trying to make a viable fit for losec for anti frig job

[Taranis, Rails]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Warrior II x2

215/247 dps
3876 ehp
1369/1791

huge powergrid left with all lvl V, but with my skills (AWU IV) i can barely fit this.
with all lvl 5 i will suggest t2 burst and some speed rig to dictate range better.
Basically an AB version of the classic prom rail fit for 0.0


[Taranis, Losec neutrons]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II x2

323/365 dps
3600 ehp
1300/1700 m/s

Basically i will try to out-dps everything (if you can apply it aka get kited to death) and see who's still alive

[prometheus]

Downgrade Damage control on the rail fit, and use better named tackle.
It doesn't really matter what you use with blasters, but the rails have significantly worse tracking and you will gain much more from the target being further away and moving slower.
Every little bit counts.

With that said, the blaster fit you posted is pretty worthless, especially in low sec.
Dual prop OR ab rail are the only two fits you really need if you're staying out of 00, largely because dual prop can now fit a nos without issue, and rails keep you out of neut range.
Running with blasters and nothing to assist you in cap warfare is just rolling the dice, as a 400mm Rifter w/ a neut can ruin your day.

Also, when using two or more mag stabs, a single T2 damage rig is equal to two T1 damage rigs.
Switch to a T2 burst or collusion, and fit something else in that spare rig slot.

[Naoru]

Dual prop ranis using the new T2 Aux Power Core:

[Taranis, Crucible dual prop ranis T2 Aux]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I

1MN Afterburner II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II


Warrior II x2

277/314 DPS
3630 EHP
1369/1791 AB
3650/5213 MWD


Slightly cheaper version:

[Taranis, Crucible dual prop ranis: cheap ass]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I

Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Warrior II x2

[Warmenhoven]

Would a Collision II rig not be better under neuting than a Burst? Cant remember the cycle time of the neutrons vs the small nos but i'm pretty sure its less? (So getting neuted hard will mitigate the Burst rig or at least thats how it comes out in my head)

[Not Drake Iddon]

Would a Collision II rig not be better under neuting than a Burst? Cant remember the cycle time of the neutrons vs the small nos but i'm pretty sure its less? (So getting neuted hard will mitigate the Burst rig or at least thats how it comes out in my head)

tbh either work, as you have a nos it negates any extra cap loss via the burst, plus the collision rig only loses you 1-3 dps in most cases so its up to you.

[Sparkus Volundar]

Might as well go with the Hobs on a Ranis. 24% more drone dps, 44% more drone EHP and if unable to land a scram on a kiter, having faster Warriors won't force them off. Or are people finding Exp is a much more useful damage type than Thermal?

I see that blasters are locked in to Therm+Kin but as most the dps is there, moving 32 dps over to Exp doesn't seem so significant.

[Lady Spank]

The real DPS increase isn't that great tbh and unless I have a web I would go with warriors every time.

[Not Drake Iddon]

The real DPS increase isn't that great tbh and unless I have a web I would go with warriors every time.


this, the tracking and speed loss on hobs does not really justify the dps increase that generally wont make a difference in frig fights

[Itiken]

This.. this I like the look of:
[Taranis, Crucible ABRails (DualMFS)]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
F85 Local Damage System

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I

Hobgoblin II x2

can even fit aT2 Suitcase if you add a cheap CPU implant (And sacrifice slot6 derp)

[Not Drake Iddon]

This.. this I like the look of:
[Taranis, Crucible ABRails (DualMFS)]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
F85 Local Damage System

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I

Hobgoblin II x2

can even fit aT2 Suitcase if you add a cheap CPU implant (And sacrifice slot6 derp)

slot 6 + hyperlink + faction implant that mimics a non omega'd snake set = ♥

what sort of deeps is that fit looking at?

[Itiken]

with 3% SmalL Hybrid(slot6) and the 3% ROF(slot9) it hits 231 / 264.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

[Taranis, CrucibleNeutronsExpensive]
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x2

If you want to drop some hard-earned ISKies

315 (358) vanilla DPS, 384 O/H + zgs1000 + cx-1, 425 w/ Void

(null is 313 O/H and implants @ 2.8+3.9 but I don't think that will really get you anywhere tbh)



If you're a cheapskate:

[Taranis, CrucibleIons]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator

Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Warrior II x2

weighing in at 298 (337) vanilla dps, and maxing at 401.

[StevieTopSiders]

This is my fit that I've been using for the past few months to great success. You can engage any T1 frigate, interceptor, navy frigate, or faction frigate and win easy mode. (Barring the DD; I have yet to try that.) AF's rape you; destroyers rape you. I want their tracking bonuses removed.

[Taranis, Blaster Taranis]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Upgraded 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Warrior II x2

I just spiral in, scram, overheat AB and orbit at 3,500.

263 DPS with OH'ed Null
Moving 1,700 m/s with OH'ed AB

Throw in a 3% SHT damage implant for sure (it's only 1 mil), and others to suit your budget. I think 3% hull HP is pretty cheap, too.

[Varcaus]

Or just get an enyo.

[prometheus]

Taranis is still a boss, and can do things the Enyo can't.
However, the way steve has fit it is now expired.

http://i.imgur.com/4WFsC.jpg

[Sponk]

Throw in a 3% SHT damage implant for sure (it's only 1 mil), and others to suit your budget.

5% damage implants are still fairly cheap. 25M or so.

[Kn1v3s]

Tryed a bit the Dual prop + nos Ranis setup right after Crucible (without the t2 rig because i'm poor)
But tbh it's too expensive. if i have to pimp something like that i just will go for a Comet. Why bother with the Ranis when you can have with just a couple of more isk (as i'm writing i remember less then 10M difference between Ranis and Comet hull) more speed/agility, more ehp, more dps?

the only thing worst is the signature, but you will use mwd only fo catch anyway, so after turning on the ab they 2 have similiar signature

[prometheus]

Pimp? The T2 rig is typically around 12mil, and T2 rig + DCU + Taranis is (on average) still cheaper than a Comet.
And reasons to fly a Taranis of the Comet; speed, sig, most dps being turrets

[Kn1v3s]

Just for comparison

[Federation Navy Comet, Full damage nos]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Add the usual implants (zgs 100, cx 1, zet 300, zet 500)
P.S. Coreli C-type ab will suit better, or a t2 but you re +1 on pg

with the cost of the t2 rig you cover the gap for the hull (14m a Ranis, 27m a Comet)

[Mr Marram]

Just for comparison

[Federation Navy Comet, Full damage nos]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Add the usual implants (zgs 100, cx 1, zet 300, zet 500)
P.S. Coreli C-type ab will suit better, or a t2 but you re +1 on pg

with the cost of the t2 rig you cover the gap for the hull (14m a Ranis, 27m a Comet)

Post up a comparison fit rather than just looking like a moron and posting the wrong ship fits to the wrong thread.
Also comparison stats.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Just for comparison

[Federation Navy Comet, Full damage nos]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

Add the usual implants (zgs 100, cx 1, zet 300, zet 500)
P.S. Coreli C-type ab will suit better, or a t2 but you re +1 on pg

with the cost of the t2 rig you cover the gap for the hull (14m a Ranis, 27m a Comet)

Post up a comparison fit rather than just looking like a moron and posting the wrong ship fits to the wrong thread.
Also comparison stats.

I think it's implicitly being compared to Prom's suggested fit, but comparison stats would make the post make a lot more sense.

[StevieTopSiders]

Prom, what do you mean by my fit being expired? I assume your fit doing the same deeps plus being able to stay in the fight due to a Nos?

I guess I should caveat that I pretty much only attack other frigates; I'm rather scared of trying to take on bigger things and pop their drones. I'm sure the Nos would be helpful while chewing through a solo Zealot's armor, but for my purposes, I have a really cheap fit that owns frigs. vOv

[Sparkus Volundar]

Lady Spank, Not Drake Iddon - thanks for the replies about drone choice and sorry for the late reply.

[prometheus]

Prom, what do you mean by my fit being expired? I assume your fit doing the same deeps plus being able to stay in the fight due to a Nos?

I guess I should caveat that I pretty much only attack other frigates; I'm rather scared of trying to take on bigger things and pop their drones. I'm sure the Nos would be helpful while chewing through a solo Zealot's armor, but for my purposes, I have a really cheap fit that owns frigs. vOv

Exactly.
Nos is obscenely useful, and opens up many windows of opportunity.

Not fitting one because you "only engage frigates" is not a good enough reason.
Just because you don't want to engage anything larger than a frigate, doesn't mean they won't show up.
Hell, running the Nos will allow you to engage frigates that typically have a neut or two.

If it's too expensive, run a T1 damage rig.

[Tsubutai]

Pimp? The T2 rig is typically around 12mil
2m to build and invent yourself, fyi. Jita T2 rig prices are ridiculous.

[Lady Spank]

The tech II rig is 'optimal' without pushing the boat out on faction and other nonsense. The greatest advantage of a dual prop 'ranis is its viability as a throwaway solo null roaming ship.

While sub-optimal, there is nothing wrong with flying it with downgraded rigs if cost is an issue.

[prometheus]

point is, there's no reason NOT to run without the nos now

[Shiodome]

i don't think that your sentance doesn't mean what you did NOT unintendedly say.

[Sponk]

not emptyquoting

[Varcaus]

Not quoting?

[Mr Marram]

Not quoting?

not empty quoting.

[Sponk]

never not believing in yourself.

[Daneel Trevize]

[Taranis, Suitonia's Taranis]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

1MN Afterburner II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Core Probe Launcher II

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I



Warrior II x2

3x 'ranis wolfpack attack? (http://hydra.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15508409)

:I want to believe: that they're not purely picking off idiots. I'm sure Shiroi linked me another snazzy BR from a couple of days ago, showing separating a gang containing a curse & ashimmu, killing other things, and GTFOing across a few hours total.
Mostly I want to know why offline core probes rather than nos.

[n0th]

:I want to believe: that they're not purely picking off idiots.



Battle Summary for HED-GP, 2012-12-13 23:11 - 06:51

Probably fully force multiplied too. That kind of PvP is incredibly fun, although i personally prefer the Slicer.

Nos wont fit.

[Daneel Trevize]

Obv nos won't fit as is, but it can with neutrons, dual prop and still 2 damage mods/rigs iirc (edit: nope, like 60dps less for heated AM, and ions). Just figured nos might be more useful for a scrambling blaster frig than an offline unbonused core launcher. They all had them, it wasn't just 1 travelling via w-space or being scout & ratter-catcher afaik.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Obv nos won't fit as is, but it can with neutrons, dual prop and still 2 damage mods/rigs iirc (edit: nope, like 60dps less for heated AM, and ions). Just figured nos might be more useful for a scrambling blaster frig than an offline unbonused core launcher. They all had them, it wasn't just 1 travelling via w-space or being scout & ratter-catcher afaik.

[Taranis, Taranis - NOSMWDAB]

Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Internal Force Field Array I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Warrior II x2

[Daneel Trevize]

[Taranis, MoreDPSThanOAM]

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
1MN Afterburner II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I


Warrior II x2

[StevieTopSiders]

They were in HED.

Off course they were picking off bads.

[prometheus]

Daneel, wtf was the point of your post..
You're aware OAM had Null loaded in his fit, right? What he posted is the standard dual prop fit

[Lady Spank]

I think he was trying to make it cheaper and just went for FNA over null for higher deeps numbers rather than as a recommendation.

I'd still just roll IFFA. as the overclocking rig is far too terrible a compromise

EDIT: Oh wait, just read the name of his fitting LMAO

[OrangeAfroMan]

:confused:

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Also I think suitonia runs force multiplied (read: links) but afaik shiroi usually doesn't. Obviously can't comment on that particular fight. In any case it's still relatively impressive.

[Daneel Trevize]

Christ, I'm not that dumb, I compared dps after putting the same ammo in the diff fits and heating both.
And the point of the post was: isn't my posted fit better if it's more dps and otherwise the same/better stats? And cheaper DC
edit: fuck, imported OAM fit didn't have drone dps included, my bad. Terrible default behaviour. I thought maybe I was on to something with the options enabled by the newer cpu rig. :facepalm:

[OrangeAfroMan]

Its all good, I was really confused as to how 1MFS was out-damaging MFS+Damage rig d:

[prometheus]

Its all good, I was really confused as to how 1MFS was out-damaging MFS+Damage rig d:
really tho :lol:

[Suitonia]

[Taranis, Suitonia's Taranis]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

1MN Afterburner II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Core Probe Launcher II

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I



Warrior II x2

3x 'ranis wolfpack attack? (http://hydra.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15508409)

:I want to believe: that they're not purely picking off idiots. I'm sure Shiroi linked me another snazzy BR from a couple of days ago, showing separating a gang containing a curse & ashimmu, killing other things, and GTFOing across a few hours total.
Mostly I want to know why offline core probes rather than nos.

The reason why I use a core probe launcher offline on my Taranis (Instead of the nos fit) is because I often roam deep 0.0 solo and the core probe launcher has got me a ton of nice kills on miners/complex runners who feel like they are safe because a Taranis 'can't probe them'. I use the Tech II version because with my skills (All Level 4) it makes the difference between probing the hardest mining site or not, as well as a small speed increase. The Tech I version is fine though. The Nos fit is also slightly worse at duelling due to slightly lower EHP. But I doubt it makes much of a difference at all, I'm just sperg like that. It also has a few other niche uses like probing out Wormholes for escape when you're camped into a pocket, and can also be used to decloak people if you're setting up a small bubble or something somewhere, online, launch 8x probes, offline again.

I think the NOS fit is probably superior in gangs/when you're hanging around entry systems expecting a fight and not trying to hunt down players.

Those Taranis gangs were very fun. It wasn't so much 'retards' as it was people getting separated from the main fleet. At one point we had a 40 man gang actively probing us with loki links and chasing us around. We used a combination of anchored bubbles, and warping between celestials to bait tacklers and split up people from the gang.


Also I think suitonia runs force multiplied (read: links) but afaik shiroi usually doesn't. Obviously can't comment on that particular fight. In any case it's still relatively impressive.

We had links in all those HED-GP battle reports (Proteus+Loki links). Me and the rest of the crew never use links for a Taranis when solo (There is little point scouting for a Taranis, and it doesn't really benefit from links all that much (You brawl in scram range anyway) and makes you much more un-engageable, the point of the taranis is to have people chase after you thinking you're weak, having a loki completely defeats that and makes a lot of people much less likely to engage.

[Tyrus Tenebros]

Oh I agree, I just remembered you camping LEGIO or some such and having links in system, so :full disclosure: on those BRs.

Why Proteus links?

[Suitonia]

Mostly because of "FUCK ECM" (tm)

With LG Spurs (MANLIEST IMPLANTS) and the Loki it makes the Taranis unprobable without Virtues. Which is really useful when ganking some guy who is not in fleet with the hostiles, since they have to send someone to burn over to you first instead of just right click -> warp wing to result, also means you can re-use safe spots/ping spots without too many issues (hey, we're lazy). Although definitely a niche use.

[prometheus]

Updating thread with new hotness


[Taranis, Dual Prop + Rep]
Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II x2
This setup is awesome.
Not as strong as the usual DP fit, but much more staying power thanks to the AAR.

With AFs being so popular now, the Taranis is pretty much forgotten.
Besides, repping 25% of your armor in a single cycle is fun :)

[OrangeAfroMan]

Will be trying that fit soon :)

[Lady Spank]

They need to introduce ancillary hull reps, for this ship alone.

[n0th]

Updating thread with new hotness


[Taranis, Dual Prop + Rep]
Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II x2
This setup is awesome.
Not as strong as the usual DP fit, but much more staying power thanks to the AAR.

With AFs being so popular now, the Taranis is pretty much forgotten.
Besides, repping 25% of your armor in a single cycle is fun :)

Why would you do Taranis though when Comet does exactly this but much better (more dps, better range), for same pricetag

[Daneel Trevize]

They need to introduce ancillary hull reps, for this ship alone.Nah...for the navy mega too.

[Varcaus]

They need to introduce ancillary hull reps, for this ship alone.

Didn't want that mid slot anyway?

[OrangeAfroMan]

Nm

[Lady Spank]

They need to introduce ancillary hull reps, for this ship alone.

Didn't want that mid slot anyway?

It never made any sense to me that it was a midslot item.

Hull Tanking, ignored since 2003.

[prometheus]

Updating thread with new hotness


[Taranis, Dual Prop + Rep]
Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II x2
This setup is awesome.
Not as strong as the usual DP fit, but much more staying power thanks to the AAR.

With AFs being so popular now, the Taranis is pretty much forgotten.
Besides, repping 25% of your armor in a single cycle is fun :)

Why would you do Taranis though when Comet does exactly this but much better (more dps, better range), for same pricetag

Size, speed, reliance on guns rather than drones. Also, insurance ><

[Naoru]

Fit works pretty well: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17021937

^^

[n0th]

Dumpstering bads is not an argument for a good fit
http://kb.ds-alliance.com/kill/1108391/
http://kb.ds-alliance.com/kill/1108393/

I did have a closer look at the fit in pyfa and it does look tempting in theory.
Speed is indeed better than the comet, 3800 with hyper-link isnt bad.
Sig bonus is i guess nice to have.
Might give it a try.

What turns me off though is
a) fit needs +1% PG (does it even fit with hybrid rigging IV?)
b) 25 km lockrange (comet has 40 which is way more comfortable)

[dzajic]

Blaster comet killing blaster DD? How o great one?

[Tsubutai]

Blaster comet killing blaster DD? How o great one?
Given that the DDs had void/CNAM loaded, I'm guessing it was done by loading null and parking 6-8 km off him in both cases.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Does fit with max skills. I'm running mine with an anti-explosive pump instead of damage rig cuz my alt has awu4

[prometheus]

Yea I probably should have mentioned that you need AWU5 & Hyrbid Rigging 4 (needed for the T2 rig anyways).
My alt flys them without a 6th slot damage mod since it doesnt have AWU5, and it still is great :)

I'll give the Comet another go, but I find its fat ass makes it a bit nerve wracking when flying around at 150-250km away from hostiles, trying to coax out targets.

[Resi]

Blaster comet killing blaster DD? How o great one?

That DD had no tank plus they don't have a tracking bonus, which does level the DPS difference quite a bit when brawling close, I can remember an old vid of Podcat where he brawled a DD down in a Rifter.

Think it's this one, also shows him losing his Utu to a Daredevil: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1370031

[Garviel]

I've killed DD's and Dramiels in an incursus, like stated.

Killing bads isn't a reliable way to show a fit is good :P

[n0th]

Yea I probably should have mentioned that you need AWU5 & Hyrbid Rigging 4 (needed for the T2 rig anyways).
My alt flys them without a 6th slot damage mod since it doesnt have AWU5, and it still is great :)

It needs +1% pg with all V (or pyfa is wrong)


I'll give the Comet another go, but I find its fat ass makes it a bit nerve wracking when flying around at 150-250km away from hostiles, trying to coax out targets.
Its :tracking formula: anyway.
I once burned at an arty tornado in my vengeance (which has sig bonus) with like at least 20° angle. Dude missed me twice and then *blap* (was a decent hit too, or i would've lived)
so bad

[prometheus]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

[root]

Fit does not need any imp. in my PyFa version.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Fit does not need any imp. in my PyFa version.

Requires AWU 5 and Hybrid Weapon Rigging 4.


BTW I like the fit, killed a Wolf in it today :D

[Gorski]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

[Varcaus]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

[Davion Falcon]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

[Naoru]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

Got no swag, brah.

[sharptoast]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

Ive had it with these Motherfucking snakes on this Motherfucking Ranis?

[Lex Fasces]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

all these bitter scrubs that cannot afford Loki boosts and snakes lolololololoolol

just drop a gun size down or use a comet or enyo

Ive had it with these Motherfucking snakes on this Motherfucking Ranis?

[sharptoast]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

all these bitter scrubs that cannot afford Loki boosts and snakes lolololololoolol

just drop a gun size down or use a comet or enyo

Ive had it with these Motherfucking snakes on this Motherfucking Ranis?

You probably need to learn to quote mate.

[Lex Fasces]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

all these bitter scrubs that cannot afford Loki boosts and snakes lolololololoolol

just drop a gun size down or use a comet or enyo

Ive had it with these Motherfucking snakes on this Motherfucking Ranis?

You probably need to learn to quote mate.

Phone is awful at forum posting

[sharptoast]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega

Eat shit and die

all these bitter scrubs that cannot afford Loki boosts and snakes lolololololoolol

just drop a gun size down or use a comet or enyo

Ive had it with these Motherfucking snakes on this Motherfucking Ranis?

You probably need to learn to quote mate.

Lex Fasces is awful at forum posting

Ed- Dat Pyramid.

[Garviel]

wtb mod clean up

[root]

What 0.0 space would you recommend to fly this fitting/ship? I sometimes find WHs in lowsec that lead into deep carebear 0.0, can be fun for a small skirmish roaming gang, but i never done a solo frig roam.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Realistically a lot of your targets will be frigs from the response fleets you stir up. If you want to try for ratters too, anywhere with non-kin/therm rats.

[sharptoast]

What 0.0 space would you recommend to fly this fitting/ship? I sometimes find WHs in lowsec that lead into deep carebear 0.0, can be fun for a small skirmish roaming gang, but i never done a solo frig roam.

Aww the Pyramid broke.

OT; Provi is good for a while, if you dunk on them too much they learn to not fight you but its good for a few weeks, up round KBP and XHQ where Yulai live there are plenty of carebears and awfuls in untanked tackle.

Watch out for the instalock camps, 9UY particularly has a really competent instalock camp, take care of that area and remember, they have JBs errywhere.

Ed; VC and CVA are both fairly competent, for easy kills stay north.

[StevieTopSiders]

I find the best place to use my Taranis is on the loop that goes from Tribute to Vale between M-O and P3. Killing the tackle frigs on both of those camps is easy if they don't have a Rapier, and there are usually a good number of frigates patrolling between those two systems.

[n0th]

Pyfa is wrong. On turret frigates, slot 6 is always always damage

Snake Omega
Snake is dogshit in 0.0 though, tried it

everyone assumes you have links = no fights without massive amounts of faggotry

[prometheus]

I find the best place to use my Taranis is on the loop that goes from Tribute to Vale between M-O and P3. Killing the tackle frigs on both of those camps is easy if they don't have a Rapier, and there are usually a good number of frigates patrolling between those two systems.

they bring out harpies for me now :(

[LordsServant]

I find the best place to use my Taranis is on the loop that goes from Tribute to Vale between M-O and P3. Killing the tackle frigs on both of those camps is easy if they don't have a Rapier, and there are usually a good number of frigates patrolling between those two systems.

they bring out harpies for me now :(

Are they properly fit harpies, or the lolshit blaster harpies?

I'd imagine you could give a blaster harpy a run for it's money in a railgun ranis tbh.

[OrangeAfroMan]

I find the best place to use my Taranis is on the loop that goes from Tribute to Vale between M-O and P3. Killing the tackle frigs on both of those camps is easy if they don't have a Rapier, and there are usually a good number of frigates patrolling between those two systems.

they bring out harpies for me now :(

Are they properly fit harpies, or the lolshit blaster harpies?

I'd imagine you could give a blaster harpy a run for it's money in a railgun ranis tbh.

Blaster Harpies will rape a blaster ranis due to resists :/

[prometheus]

The only possible fit that you could take out in reasonable time would be a rail harpy with a single web and no extender.
Otherwise, you're going to be plinking away for a while (even longer if masb) unless it shreds you beforehand :P

You pretty much want to avoid any Cal/Gal AFs unless you feel like taunting death and/or throwing away some isk.