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Rasta
June 18 2011, 01:53:41 AM
How many corps are out there that are straight up PvP wh corps? Me and/or my alts have been in 3-4 wh corps so far, most of which advertise themselves as either corps that like PvP or as straight 'PvP corps' but none have turned out to be that. Are there any wh corps who focus on keeping hard core PvPers in their ranks? I'm starting to think I've had it all wrong, and I'll be disappointed to find out something as cool as wspace does not have a single PvP-focused corp?

Side note: I do realize there is more downtime in wspace and that is part of the deal...but in my experience targets won't come to you (unless you POS bash and wait for RF timer) and you need to be out looking for stuff to shoot at.

Seamus
June 18 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Corps that base out of wspace cant focus on pvp all the time. We stage from npc nullsec, thread here (http://www.failheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2100).

Very new corp, but recruitings going fairly quickly.

tHornton
June 18 2011, 08:34:18 PM
wouldnt know about any WH pvp corps~~~

Lanu
June 18 2011, 10:17:34 PM
Aperture harmonics : http://dontshootx.com/

Or RNK's wh corp Guillotine Therapy but dunno if you can actually get into that. Seems very, french.. :p http://forums.madbro.fr/

Not a lot of pure wh pvp groups out there I think.

Lorkin Desal
June 19 2011, 12:23:51 PM
The amount of bear money to be made in w-space makes it useful to PVE, often daily. There is nothing else that will give you such a stupid amount of money to welp one ship at a time in to gatecamps. As to PvP, every WH space does it a little bit, but Guillotine Therapy hole crash until they find targets.

Nobody_Holme
June 19 2011, 06:05:14 PM
Lets be honest, who crashes an unlinked magnetar of their choice of bearing class unless they're REALLY horny for PvP? (I was at the point of doing that, which is why i moved out of wormholes, mind)

Polybius
June 20 2011, 03:37:40 AM
Wrath of Fenris run a wormhole merc alliance and I hear good things about Guillotine Therapy therapy but they're french language.

Smuggo
June 20 2011, 09:11:35 AM
A few friends of mine are in Idol Corp, which is wormhole PvP. They live in a C2 with nullsec and C5 statics. Small corp so they do mostly very small gangs and solo work. PM me if you're interested and I can put you in touch with someone.

Rasta
June 20 2011, 03:44:05 PM
Aperture harmonics : http://dontshootx.com/

Or RNK's wh corp Guillotine Therapy but dunno if you can actually get into that. Seems very, french.. :p http://forums.madbro.fr/

Not a lot of pure wh pvp groups out there I think.

I figured aharm was the best PvP choice, but their recruitment post lists a bunch of skills related to PvE so I assumed they were more heavy into PvE than I'm looking for.

Phatstabley
June 20 2011, 03:51:56 PM
Aperture harmonics : http://dontshootx.com/

Or RNK's wh corp Guillotine Therapy but dunno if you can actually get into that. Seems very, french.. :p http://forums.madbro.fr/

Not a lot of pure wh pvp groups out there I think.

I figured aharm was the best PvP choice, but their recruitment post lists a bunch of skills related to PvE so I assumed they were more heavy into PvE than I'm looking for.

WH pve is the same thing as bashing a pos - Start working and wait for probes. Easiest PVP you can get, and if nobody shows up, you made a ton of isk so no big deal.

no way to lose!

Demon Azrakel
June 21 2011, 02:43:42 AM
Side note: I do realize there is more downtime in wspace and that is part of the deal...but in my experience targets won't come to you (unless you POS bash and wait for RF timer) and you need to be out looking for stuff to shoot at.

We have been quite lucky with AHARM coming to us recently, for free pvp in home system see:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8790851

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9924493

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9965364

Not sure how hard we try for pvp compared to other wh groups...

EDIT: Not actually recruiting here

Rasta
June 21 2011, 01:50:58 PM
Nice! Glad to see someone is out looking for trouble.

Pattern
June 21 2011, 03:16:00 PM
Whelp.

Yeah, I think the largest WH corps are PvP centric by nature, running pve during the quite times however is far too lucrative to pass on tbh.

Shaftoes
June 21 2011, 04:31:18 PM
http://www.failheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=601

Check out our thread ^^

We just recently moved from lowsec into a wormhole and its quite fun.

Rasta
July 8 2011, 04:09:29 PM
So i've been watching the large wormhole corps boards lately, and some appear to be pretty actively killing stuff in wormholes.
http://narwhals.eve-kill.net/
http://dontshootx.com/killboard/?a=self_detail
http://adhocracy.killmail.org/

Its great to see, but how do they get so many fights in wspace? I actively snoop around wspace for a while and find it extremely difficult to get a fight, even a gank. Are they just consta-rolling their static until they find targets?

Hydro
July 8 2011, 06:29:59 PM
It's a lot easier when you have lots of people scouring the chain/exits for fights.

edit: In truth, you're looking for something that simply isn't there. Every wh corp (to my knowledge anyways) has at least some pve aspects to it.

lazydane
July 11 2011, 10:39:38 AM
Too many corps say they are pure PVP, but you find them bearing 80% of the time :p. Only way to tell is how may kills they get daily compared to the amount of daily active members ;)

Reed Tiburon
July 15 2011, 03:20:53 PM
Wrath of Fenris run a wormhole merc alliance and I hear good things about Guillotine Therapy therapy but they're french language.

Confirming WOLFY and DUCK are awesome :)


So i've been watching the large wormhole corps boards lately, and some appear to be pretty actively killing stuff in wormholes.
http://narwhals.eve-kill.net/
http://dontshootx.com/killboard/?a=self_detail
http://adhocracy.killmail.org/

Its great to see, but how do they get so many fights in wspace? I actively snoop around wspace for a while and find it extremely difficult to get a fight, even a gank. Are they just consta-rolling their static until they find targets?

ADHC, AHARM and DUCK all have the numbers to engage in most situations. So you have mails that go out when someone requests help or a big PVP opportunity arose, and numbers begin to mobilize. AHARM is one alliance that I hear does the whole "roll till you find a gank" thing pretty often. And Future Corps, well we're bloodthirsty too.

Durzel
July 25 2011, 01:13:01 PM
Can't speak for others but if you've got sites in your home system each of which are worth at least 1b, which don't respawn when you complete them ala sanctums, then eschewing that for PvP which you can get at any time on demand (at least theoretically if you keep crashing your static) seems a little silly.

Rasta
July 27 2011, 06:04:01 PM
Can't speak for others but if you've got sites in your home system each of which are worth at least 1b, which don't respawn when you complete them ala sanctums, then eschewing that for PvP which you can get at any time on demand (at least theoretically if you keep crashing your static) seems a little silly.

Depends on priorities I guess. Yours would seem to be isk > PvP. I take the opposite view, combat sites in your home are there anytime you want to run them...but PvP is much harder to find and much more exciting.

Durzel
July 27 2011, 07:46:09 PM
They are not there "anytime you want to run them", that's the point.

In the higher level WHs, the ones where there's serious ISK to be made, if you've cleared the sites in your home system you could end up waiting several days or weeks for another one to respawn and given each one is worth 1b+ with escalations you'd have to be either loaded or dumb to pass that up. Rolling the static to find PvP can be done anytime you want, running sites that might not exist when you're in the mood to run them? Not so much.

Can't speak for the likes of AHARM and co, who may well run sites in their C5/C6 static instead or not at all, but a corp living in a C5+ is going to have at least some emphasis on farming sites for 1b+ a pop.

Shiodome
July 27 2011, 09:25:42 PM
i thought farming the static rather than the 'home' WH was the norm? think i read somewhere that the more you run sites in one systems the slower the sig respawn rate gets... so frequently ratting at home becomes self defeating. yeah, complete lack of pvp in this comment, sorry.

Rasta
July 27 2011, 09:53:34 PM
i thought farming the static rather than the 'home' WH was the norm? think i read somewhere that the more you run sites in one systems the slower the sig respawn rate gets... so frequently ratting at home becomes self defeating. yeah, complete lack of pvp in this comment, sorry.

@ Durzel - My point is I'd only run sites if there was no PvP to be had cause I have limited time ingame and limited patience for shooting NPCs (or if I was broke which I'm not). Your point is you'd run sites regardless of PvP because why pass up so much isk? Diff points of view.

@ Shiodome - I'm no PvE expert, but I think normally you want to run sites in your static vs your home...however...if you're doing full cap escalations (3 or 4 caps) I think you have to run them at home cause of mass limitations of your static hole.

Leviathan
August 3 2011, 02:56:01 PM
i thought farming the static rather than the 'home' WH was the norm? think i read somewhere that the more you run sites in one systems the slower the sig respawn rate gets... so frequently ratting at home becomes self defeating. yeah, complete lack of pvp in this comment, sorry.

I'd rather have a clearish home system for scanning :) but im lazy.

Also pew > pve because those sites wont be flying off anytime soon. Hardcore (tackle first get ganked later mentality) Pewers will always need isk however so it is a balance.

Wrack
August 3 2011, 08:02:42 PM
If you leave your sites up in your home system, eventually someone else will try to come do them. Which do you want in your anomalies, PvE or PvP?

Shiodome
August 3 2011, 10:56:29 PM
you're asking if people want pve fit ships to wander about their home system. is that a trick question?

Vilgan
August 4 2011, 02:13:54 PM
i thought farming the static rather than the 'home' WH was the norm? think i read somewhere that the more you run sites in one systems the slower the sig respawn rate gets... so frequently ratting at home becomes self defeating. yeah, complete lack of pvp in this comment, sorry.

In lower wormholes, farming the static is more popular (altho the slower sig respawn rate is nonsense). However, in C6 space most groups just run the anoms in their system because it is lots of fast and easy isk and the respawn rate is reasonable. Since there are only like 120ish C6 systems and lots of various groups running sites, you'll virtually always have 1-2 anoms to farm and possibly as many as 9-10 (altho 4-5 is average).

As for pvp in wspace - it is harder to time when you get pvp as it depends on connections and such, but (imo) the fights have a much higher chance of being really great.

Wrack
August 9 2011, 09:47:33 PM
you're asking if people want pve fit ships to wander about their home system. is that a trick question?

Yes

Korenchkin
August 10 2011, 03:17:14 PM
@ Shiodome - I'm no PvE expert, but I think normally you want to run sites in your static vs your home...however...if you're doing full cap escalations (3 or 4 caps) I think you have to run them at home cause of mass limitations of your static hole.

Yeah that's true of lower end wormholes (C1-4), with C5/6, unless you want to spend the whole time 'bearing it up it's probably not worth running your statics. Other C5/6s you can't fully escalate cos of capital mass amounts, and C1-4 are more than liekly just :effort: for the amount of isk it brings in compared to escalated C5/6.


If you leave your sites up in your home system, eventually someone else will try to come do them. Which do you want in your anomalies, PvE or PvP?

Again, fine with 1-4, 5/6 I'd doubt anyone could be bothered to come in and run them unescalated, or single capital escalated as it's prolly not much better isk than a C4 I would of thought? Not run numbers on it or anything though.

Last time I asked about PvP WH corps in the recruitment channel I got things like "Can you fly a Tengu, you'll need one for sites" :roll: So I think most will 'bear as well as pvp, just need to find one with a more favourable ratio.

Suleiman Shouaa
August 10 2011, 05:46:27 PM
So I think most will 'bear as well as pvp, just need to find one with a more favourable ratio.

Check out Aquila INC. (http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=home), ran across them a few times in low sec or in wormholes and they seem pretty decent.