Your best bitter memory

[Melichor]

Since CCP seems to be making an effort at fixing shit, lets gather around the campfire and tell of those times when you first got bitter.

Mine I would say is when the NOS change went into effect. I was still a relatively new(b) player at that time but I spent all my time to training to get that sexy curse because I wanted to be able to solo wtfpwn everyone while being :smug: Finally got my skills to where I needed them to be then I was podded. No big deal I said to myself however my home station didn't have a med bay (lol...was living in Thelan at the time) so I grabbed a ship and set out to update my clone. Made it to the nearest system when I was again fucked by a gate camp...and podded with the basic clone. The skill they chose to take away...Amarr cruiser V (ffffuuuuu). By the time I got that back the patch "fixing" NOS was introduced and my dreams of having an OP ship were dashed. The only good side effect was that curses went down in price.

So anyone have any interesting stories?

[Rakshasa The Cat]

I got second-hand bitter from hanging around here...

[Haffrage]

salvaging a freighter wreck that held a vindi

heh

actually that's what got me to sign up for SHC, the bitterest thing I've ever done

[Melichor]

salvaging a freighter wreck that held a vindi


Ouch, that beats my first faction rat kill...held a Nightmare bpc that one of my old alliance leaders took possesion of to "help build up our carrier strength." I still have a plan to one day join his corp and take it for everything I can

[Marlona Sky]

Buying a full high grade talisman set. Plugging it in and feeling smug in my nano curse. Then 24 hrs later, the nos nerf is announced.

[Tellenta]

+1 on the NOS nerf being my bitterest memory.

I have fond memories of my nos Domi. The best one that comes to mind is when I was getting 'frigate fucked' in old man star and I managed to fend off 8 or so frigates and a brutix by nosing them all down. Only got to kill 2 or 3 of them before they bugged out though.

[Reed Tiburon]

I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

[FatFreddy]

I'm a shit '10

oh indeed you are

[Bacchanalian]

Nano nerf rage checking in. Actually my first bitter memory was the nos nerf, but that didn't bother me quite as much as the Myrmidon/Eos nerf. Myrmidon was my signature ship and I dreamed of one day flying an Eos. Ishkur was my favorite frigate hull. :backwhengallentewasgood:

[Tellenta]

Nano nerf rage checking in. Actually my first bitter memory was the nos nerf, but that didn't bother me quite as much as the Myrmidon/Eos nerf. Myrmidon was my signature ship and I dreamed of one day flying an Eos. Ishkur was my favorite frigate hull. :backwhengallentewasgood:

Them were the days. :Bitterfist:

[Lady Spank]

Nano AND bandwidth shitting on my Myrmidon.

Bandwidth shitting on my EOS literally the day I could fly it after seemingly months of going through the training requred for it

nos multispec shitting on my Domi

apocrypha shitting on my exploration jewgold by letting any retard do it

damp nerf just as I got recon V

changing the model of the Helios to a turd with a kickstand

new character portraits

[Bacchanalian]

changing the model of the Helios to a turd with a kickstand


:lol:

[Haffrage]

salvaging a freighter wreck that held a vindi


Ouch, that beats my first faction rat kill...held a Nightmare bpc that one of my old alliance leaders took possesion of to "help build up our carrier strength." I still have a plan to one day join his corp and take it for everything I can
No, it was somebody else's suicide gank. I was just passing through. The bitter part is if I couldn't have it, they couldn't either :razor:

[Liare]

Cap Power Relay nerf, preventing me from using the shiny new XL booster 'poc i had JUST finished training for. :psyduck:

[noobcake]

best bitter memory...downloading CEVE and realizing that anything we do there will be more fun than anything I've done on TQ in the last 6 years.

[Tellenta]

best bitter memory...downloading CEVE and realizing that anything we do there will be more fun than anything I've done on TQ in the last 6 years.

Should I go ahead and join the chaos? the fact that I can't be assed to undock in TQ is keeping me back.

[xanral]

Edit - Probably shouldn't reply later than 2 AM as I misread the OP, go me. Most bitter memory is when they changed the Eos as I had been working for one for a month.

[noobcake]

best bitter memory...downloading CEVE and realizing that anything we do there will be more fun than anything I've done on TQ in the last 6 years.

Should I go ahead and join the chaos? the fact that I can't be assed to undock in TQ is keeping me back.


outside of training the learning skills and a brand new character? I'd say it's looking like it's shaping up to be pretty awesome. Dont take my word for it, check the serenity sub-forum posts for validation of that statement :D

[Davd]

I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:



Still not bitter, primarily because I take a break every few months.
I'm probably more bitter about some of the bleeding vaginas in this forum section on the prowl for something to whine about :obama:


fake edit: no I'm not considering this a whine thread.

[zangorus]

back in my days we could go to jita buy drake and have money for new drake when we got blobbed

[Galaphanian]

My bitterest point came one day when innocently suicide ganking freighters, some fucker salvaged a wreck that had a vindicator in it. I've never to this day worked out who it was :cut:

[Ralara]

Years ago I stole about 400m isk from a corp. At the time, it was a lot of isk for me (and a time when Covert Ops cloaking devices were worth like 90m isk). I left the corp and went to empire and made myself one of those Ravens with Gist type stuff on it - the ship was worth a couple of billion and I was having a great time in a high sec mission running corp.

Anyway, after a month or so of this, someone joined our corp. Did missions with him for about 3-4 weeks. One day, he had... what was that hard mission, the one "hardest" level 4 back then? Against gallente? Comes in 3 stages and part 3 was a nightmare to do? Anyway, he had that mission and needed my help with it because he had only about 6m SP and a dominix and nearly got popped. I dutifully got in my raven and warped to him to help.

There was no acceleration gate. I was a bit confused at first, but it was because he'd had to warp out to a safe spot / planet because of the damage he was taking. Then he locked me up. Then the neuts came. Then the sensor damps. Then the ogre IIs. I lasted about a minute or two, tanking him until my cap ran out.

"That's for the 400m you stole", said Gamesguy's alt.

[The Djego]

Quantum Rise, most terrible combat related patch ever and I give a shit about the nanos.

Bonus points for getting trolled by Nozh about med weapon hypes and fitting multi specs again(retrospective he might be just plain clueless about the game).

[Jelek Coro]

Buying a full high grade talisman set. Plugging it in and feeling smug in my nano curse. Then 24 hrs later, the nos nerf is announced.


Ha... remember finally buying mods for a pimp nano nos domi of doom before that nerf announced. Was anoyed to say the least.

[Gix Tyrionn]

When I was a noob I tried really hard to get other noobs to go pvp and jump people in low sec. There was an "alliance leader" who as a major douche, he'd do things like send mails after I did moving the dates I would be leading stuff, tell people there wouldn't be an op when I went afk while people were forming up. He'd idle in mission fleets to get isk and explain how he was an excellent troll and everyone was butthurt about spacepixels when people booted him out of their fleet when he did that. He'd bring atrons to BS fleets during wardecks and the like to whore on km's and never tackle anything or scout if there was risk.

I cyno'd his carrier into a group of battleships as revenge. A friend of mine bought a freighter from him at the same time and promised to pay it in installments.

He quit eve with his carrier blown up and freighter stolen.

[Liare]

Years ago I stole about 400m isk from a corp. At the time, it was a lot of isk for me (and a time when Covert Ops cloaking devices were worth like 90m isk). I left the corp and went to empire and made myself one of those Ravens with Gist type stuff on it - the ship was worth a couple of billion and I was having a great time in a high sec mission running corp.

Anyway, after a month or so of this, someone joined our corp. Did missions with him for about 3-4 weeks. One day, he had... what was that hard mission, the one "hardest" level 4 back then? Against gallente? Comes in 3 stages and part 3 was a nightmare to do? Anyway, he had that mission and needed my help with it because he had only about 6m SP and a dominix and nearly got popped. I dutifully got in my raven and warped to him to help.

There was no acceleration gate. I was a bit confused at first, but it was because he'd had to warp out to a safe spot / planet because of the damage he was taking. Then he locked me up. Then the neuts came. Then the sensor damps. Then the ogre IIs. I lasted about a minute or two, tanking him until my cap ran out.

"That's for the 400m you stole", said Gamesguy's alt.to be fair, you did earn that one...

[Davd]

When I was a noob I tried really hard to get other noobs to go pvp and jump people in low sec. There was an "alliance leader" who as a major douche, he'd do things like send mails after I did moving the dates I would be leading stuff, tell people there wouldn't be an op when I went afk while people were forming up. He'd idle in mission fleets to get isk and explain how he was an excellent troll and everyone was butthurt about spacepixels when people booted him out of their fleet when he did that. He'd bring atrons to BS fleets during wardecks and the like to whore on km's and never tackle anything or scout if there was risk.

I cyno'd his carrier into a group of battleships as revenge. A friend of mine bought a freighter from him at the same time and promised to pay it in installments.

He quit eve with his carrier blown up and freighter stolen.

Does that count as a :bittervet: story :?:


@Ralara :lol:

[bozwold]

Eos/mrym nerf made me cry for a week. I'm still bitter about it

[Lancehot]

Fac War made me bitter, along with the trend for speaking on ts being a requirement to join corps

edit: though recently I have been enjoying myself again. That was until I watched, in my cov ops, a fight between a vaga & hurricane, where both uncloaked falcons on each other. Worst part was the vaga's falcon had previously been flying a dramiel which spent 10 minutes refusing to tackle a rupture for fear it was bait.

[shoki]

nanonerf
taking away my stabber of fun-dance-awesomness
taking away my rapier of pr0-sneaky-awesomness
taking away my huginn of pure awesomness with a dash of WTFBBQPWN

i never really fully recovered from that

[Morax Marbas]

What made me a bittervet in the end was that even after trying out pretty much all different playstyles (Solo, Smallgroup, Blobb, Piracy, Faction war, SovLolol, Industry, Trading etc.) I just figured out I had to put in too much time into EvE for getting a bit of action and/or tears.
When I started the excitement of a fight was what kept me going. But when money is not an issue and you actually don't care about losses it starts to get dull pretty fast.

As this was just a general EvE rant and no specific point in time I'll ad: Nano- Webnerf.
For quite some time the only Ship I used for pretty much all purposes was my beloved polycarb Huginn. Then they turned it into a slow moving piece of crap.
Still sad :|

[Resi]

12th or so time I was Falc0wned.

[Klesk]

Boot.ini

[hinch]

lets see...

nano nerf
nos nerf
vindicator nerf
torp nerf
hybrid nerf
pos war fare change
carrier change (stopped them being useful for 0.0 logistics!)
mwd + sig nerf
drone bay nerf

there's probably more but they're the ones that spring to mind

[whispous]

The nano was getting silly-boring though. Nothing else was nearly as viable.

[Lana Torrin]

I have always been bitter.. In fact the day I joined up I told the person that referred me that I was going to end up dedicating too much of my life to this game and end up hating all my friends..

However, the most recent time was probably the sov changes (although the effected me not one little bit) because so much was promised and it effectively went from bashing POSs for 12 hours to bashing a single mod for 24 hours.. So much time was devoted to recoding everything and in the end it turned out to be an almost identical system...

[Womble]

Nano-phoon (the single greatest thing ever)
Nos-nerf (my awesome tempest)
Hp buffed (my arty gank tempest w/cloak)

These did not make me bitter though.

Ascn made me bitter, not right away, back in the day azn had a good a market as Jita, what made me bitter was the time when Cyvok went to test the jumpbridge to see how the lag was handled. We were given the order for sniping BS and about 500 formed up. I'm thinking "This is going to be awesome!" then he just tests it and logs, saying thanks. Right then I knew we would lose to bob, we had 500 guys ready to go kill something and the leadership couldn't pull their finger out to get an op going.

[Lusulpher]

I'm not bitter...I'm tarty, that's a sour. :obama:

Also, see sig.

[hattifnatt]

Eos nerf made me stop small gang pvping

[Adam C]

Eos nerf made me stop small gang pvping

rip eos /me pukes in sadness

[thebomby]

The part of the game I play - losec FW - I'm not so bitter about. Gangs, even this 'big' ones, are still relatively small and the supercap proliferation isn't a problem. Likewise, the whole nullsec clusterfuck is also irrelevant to me, mostly.

No, what made me bitter was CCP and the almost constant ignoring of players' pleas to fix the basic shit in the game (first the Minnies which were pretty shit apart from nano for my first year and a half until the Dominion projectile buff, now Hybrids, which still have huge problems) while being arrogant cunts in the face of their own incompetence. The massive number of bugs introduced by each patch was bad as well, but the real bittervet introductory moment was the :18 months: disaster.

CCP is too dumb to see why a good number of the very best players have either left the game or are now playing CEVE and will continue to push Incarna, Dust and other bullshit that has little to do with the core EVE gameplay until they have only a few retarded nubs (more retarded than us) left playing.

Fuck CCP and may they have really bad indegestion from eating too many fish (sic).

[RoemySchneider]

first time i received a reply for a perfectly valid bug report telling me that muninns aren't even supposed to shoot 100km and if anything, that'd be a bug - not the stuff i wrote about.

this level of facepalmery was maintained for all 11 bug&exploit reports.
but hey... they're thinking about changing the logi warp speed now, after only three years - better late than never
d(''d)

[VladCetes]

My most bitter memories:

The warp core stab nerf
The insta-nerf
Nerfing my 280km Javelin torpedoes of doom on a Raven

[Istvaan]

The stacking nerf.

6 heatsink Zealot </3

[Davd]

Ah, I guess I did have a :bittervet: moment almost a year ago, I guess I forgot and got over it.

Doing L4s in a Paladin (back when the price was around 1bil), warp to my domi alt at 0 and land 30km away next to an un-aggro'd spawn inside some retarded debri. Can't warp out because I keep ping ponging off crap and I can't get close enough to receive RR from my Domi. Loose Paladin, toss up a petition, wait a week to be told to fuck off.

If you're wondering, I didn't move my Domi away from the initial warp-in point.

[Lancehot]

WCS nerf was the best thing that ever happened to anything ever. Everyone fitting multispecs of doom to keep you jammed & having wcs to gfto when jams failed was a nightmare I do not miss.

edit: On the other hand. The process of nerfing stuff to the point you couldn't have ships do all that at once just meant more people brought alts to do it better instead; which I'm far more bitter about - esp now isk is so easy to make everybody seems to have at least one falcon & one guardian/scimi alt. Guess you'll never be able nerf risk aversion.

[Davd]

WCS nerf was the best thing that ever happened to anything ever. Everyone fitting multispecs of doom to keep you jammed & having wcs to gfto when jams failed was a nightmare I do not miss.

On that note, the introduction of HICs was awesome :twisted:
I remember all the tears when CCP first announced them.


"OMG LOWSEC BUBBLES!!!!!!1111"

[Tai]

Eos nerf :(

[cheeba]

not winning anything in the t2 lotto :(


Still havent cashed in my agent shit, must be able to claim mad datacores if i ever did.

[Xarthaginian]

Warp to zero.

I had the "World Tour" series of bm's, which gave me a serious advantage over other same skilled pilots. WTZ fucked all of that up and pissed me off rightly.

[Rans]

The nano nerf. Got the ishtar one week before that nerf. Welp.

[Bacchanalian]

The nano nerf. Got the ishtar one week before that nerf. Welp.

Curse one week before the nerf checking in. Also had gotten into Claymores/Sleipnirs about 6 weeks before.

[Evil Synns]

moving to 0.0. Getting 100's of Bookmarks, copying them, making a mess. Getting abused by the CEO for not returning them correctly... then a week later warp to zero!

[Joe Appleby]

Relizing I need to invest more time into the game to have massive fun than I honestly can. Through seeing a friend lose all he had by playing WoW. At the same time I was in RvB as a director and saw that I played more than I should. Then I took a 1 month break, got my shit together, played again. Then I got a wee bit more bitter due to realizing I need an alt for just about anything. Without time or money to invest into two accounts, I went: fuck that!

L4s & GNs is all I do now. Not even those all that much, mostly skill changes.

And SHC made me bitter, but not as much as others. *not looking at Lana*

I want to invest time into this game again, as I know I can have tons of fun doing so. I really want to take a stab at teaching at EVE-Uni, being idealistic about it. But then, I am idealistic about starting to teach next year IRL as well.

[Vortex]

Myrmidon is pretty high up there. The oldschool nos/damp/heavy drone myrmidon was just a beautiful ship to behold. In terms of bitterness though, I'd have to say every EVE-O test server feedback post ever. CCP makes a thread asking for balancing analysis, then ignores all the advice, nerfs the ashimmu, buffs all Angel ships. I've had a number of very well analyzed posts/threads on that forum and ccp being :ccp: of course summarily ignores all constructive evidence despite them specifically asking for it.

[Causto]

My most bitter memories:

The warp core stab nerf

Either your a massive faggot or that's a troll. Let's hope the latter.

[Liare]

My most bitter memories:

The warp core stab nerf

Either your a massive faggot or that's a troll. Let's hope the latter.oh come on, who does not miss ginger magicians faggot 8xWCS Mega pulse geddon?

[Liptonez]

Quite a few things that made me bitter:
- Dram being too hard to kill, killing loads of good solo PVP situations
- ECM nerf that wasn't a nerf till today - it's still retarded
- supercap rebalance - normal caps are useless, I really loved them
- system upgrade anomalies - I felt so cool because 99% of people were never doing anoms with their higher chance of faction spawns & escalations
- system upgrade grav belts for obvious reasons

First and last made me really bitter and are the reason I rarely go out hunting solo any more (other than hunting ratters, pretty much).

[Reed Tiburon]

I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:
plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.

[Zigg Omelo]

Titans and motherships

[Airow]

all the interfaces and mechanics in Production/Invention/Corp Managment/POS

so many ideas were posted on the eve forums but nothing happened so far. Terribad

[Davd]

[quote="Reed Tiburon":1c0irhjh]I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:
plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.[/quote:1c0irhjh]


You're sour over crap that effected other people (and from what it sounds like, old crap that didn't effect you) rather than personal experience. Explain to me how this doesn't make you sound like a sheeple.

[Zeekar]

Helios model change. Hate the current one, so ugly its unbelivable while the old one was all kinds of awsome.
Second nano nerf made me a bit bitter but not that much.
Ccp gm team on the other hand is causing me mayor loss in faith in humanity any time i have to deal with them.

[Takon Orlani]

When i installed the client.

[Reed Tiburon]

[quote="Reed Tiburon":khkk9ely]I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:
plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.


You're sour over crap that effected other people (and from what it sounds like, old crap that didn't effect you) rather than personal experience. Explain to me how this doesn't make you sound like a sheeple.[/quote:khkk9ely]
alright, lusulpher. I fly Caldari rail boats. Does that mollify you?

[Phrixus Zephyr]

Fucking. Lag.

[Davd]

[quote=Davd][quote="Reed Tiburon":dku94pw8]I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:
plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.


You're sour over crap that effected other people (and from what it sounds like, old crap that didn't effect you) rather than personal experience. Explain to me how this doesn't make you sound like a sheeple.[/quote:dku94pw8]
alright, lusulpher. I fly Caldari rail boats. Does that mollify you?[/quote:dku94pw8]

Why would I need to be mollified? Just pointing out that you sound like a sheeple.

[noobcake]

When i installed the client.

winner

[Reed Tiburon]

[quote=Davd][quote="Reed Tiburon":2vp2vayl]I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:
plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.


You're sour over crap that effected other people (and from what it sounds like, old crap that didn't effect you) rather than personal experience. Explain to me how this doesn't make you sound like a sheeple.
alright, lusulpher. I fly Caldari rail boats. Does that mollify you?[/quote:2vp2vayl]

Why would I need to be mollified? Just pointing out that you sound like a sheeple.[/quote:2vp2vayl]
shut up sheeple

[thebomby]

[quote="Reed Tiburon":syd8gzqf]I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:
plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.


You're sour over crap that effected other people (and from what it sounds like, old crap that didn't effect you) rather than personal experience. Explain to me how this doesn't make you sound like a sheeple.[/quote:syd8gzqf]
Come one, don't be a dick. The game was shit years ago for lazers, then it was shit for Minnies, then after that was fixed, hybrids still sucked. The game is hard and there is a terrible lack of balance which affects everyone, not just nullsec overlords with more supercpas than brains. The :18months: fiasco pissed off loads of people because it affected just about everyone who actually plays the game, and Reed wasn't the only one to get upset about the :CCP: factor fucking everything up.

[Davd]

[quote="Reed Tiburon":nx0pb3kt]I'm a shit '10, started playing EVE in May. In July CSM 5 got back from summit, minutes were posted, Dierdra Vaal posted the "Commit to Excellence" threadnaught. Summer of Rage was go. I spent hours and hours every day for like a week just reading through old Eve-O and SHC threads and seeing all the shit CCP fucked up - hybrids, rockets (then), Black Ops, Logistics warp speed, UI, font, etc, etc, etc. It was really an eye-opener and soured me a bit on the whole thing.

Try to fit in harder :psyduck:
plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.


You're sour over crap that effected other people (and from what it sounds like, old crap that didn't effect you) rather than personal experience. Explain to me how this doesn't make you sound like a sheeple.
Come one, don't be a dick. The game was shit years ago for lazers, then it was shit for Minnies, then after that was fixed, hybrids still sucked. The game is hard and there is a terrible lack of balance which affects everyone, not just nullsec overlords with more supercpas than brains. The :18months: fiasco pissed off loads of people because it affected just about everyone who actually plays the game, and Reed wasn't the only one to get upset about the :CCP: factor fucking everything up.[/quote:nx0pb3kt]

Either you're missing the point or you misread something; that or I'm being extremely brain dead at the moment. It's stupid to be bitter over old posts about things that happened before your time, and never had a significant effect on you. Based on that post it seems like he can't think for himself based on his own experiences, and is probably nothing more than a bandwagoner.




shut up sheeple

:obama:

[noobcake]

Either you're missing the point or you misread something; that or I'm being extremely brain dead at the moment. It's stupid to be bitter over old posts about things that happened before your time, and never had a significant effect on you. Based on that post it seems like he can't think for himself based on his own experiences, and is probably nothing more than a bandwagoner.

im sorry, but as bandwagon as he sounds for making his post, you're saying that you cant become bitter by reading posts about how bad the company youre giving money to actually is?

Thats a pretty derp statement...

[Davd]

Either you're missing the point or you misread something; that or I'm being extremely brain dead at the moment. It's stupid to be bitter over old posts about things that happened before your time, and never had a significant effect on you. Based on that post it seems like he can't think for himself based on his own experiences, and is probably nothing more than a bandwagoner.

im sorry, but as bandwagon as he sounds for making his post, you're saying that you cant become bitter by reading posts about how bad the company youre giving money to actually is?

Thats a pretty derp statement...

You're a tool if you're purely bitter from reading forum posts. It's like hating someone in high school just because your friends hate them.

[Tellenta]

Either you're missing the point or you misread something; that or I'm being extremely brain dead at the moment. It's stupid to be bitter over old posts about things that happened before your time, and never had a significant effect on you. Based on that post it seems like he can't think for himself based on his own experiences, and is probably nothing more than a bandwagoner.

im sorry, but as bandwagon as he sounds for making his post, you're saying that you cant become bitter by reading posts about how bad the company youre giving money to actually is?

Thats a pretty derp statement...

You're a tool if you're purely bitter from reading forum posts. It's like hating someone in high school just because your friends hate them.
Who is saying he's past that point in life?

[Davd]

Either you're missing the point or you misread something; that or I'm being extremely brain dead at the moment. It's stupid to be bitter over old posts about things that happened before your time, and never had a significant effect on you. Based on that post it seems like he can't think for himself based on his own experiences, and is probably nothing more than a bandwagoner.

im sorry, but as bandwagon as he sounds for making his post, you're saying that you cant become bitter by reading posts about how bad the company youre giving money to actually is?

Thats a pretty derp statement...

You're a tool if you're purely bitter from reading forum posts. It's like hating someone in high school just because your friends hate them.
Who is saying he's past that point in life?

:monocledowns:

[Marlona Sky]

DDoS being the new Drake. I know that's not CCPs deal but having to switch to eve voice is frustrating. Also having clients drop due to being DDoS'd is just stupid. I really hate that kind of meta gaming more than any nerf CCP has ever done.

[The Crushah]

When they rotated the station in Decon so that it was an instawarp straight back to Balle and high-sec. To my knowledge its one of the only examples of that type of intervention in the game.

[Reed Tiburon]

im sorry, but as bandwagon as he sounds for making his post, you're saying that you cant become bitter by reading posts about how bad the company youre giving money to actually is?

Thats a pretty derp statement...
Basically... besides, I'm hardly a bandwagoner. I'm a console FPSer, aka a pariah on this forum. :monocledowns:

[Melichor]

im sorry, but as bandwagon as he sounds for making his post, you're saying that you cant become bitter by reading posts about how bad the company youre giving money to actually is?

Thats a pretty derp statement...
Basically... besides, I'm hardly a bandwagoner. I'm a console FPSer, aka a pariah on this forum. :monocledowns:

I too, dabble in console FPS from time to time.

[Tellenta]

all the interfaces and mechanics in Production/Invention/Corp Managment/POS

so many ideas were posted on the eve forums but nothing happened so far. Terribad

I'm still unsure why they haven't put in the ability to start multiple industrial jobs at once, or at least make it so you can start a queue for everything from invention to sell orders.

[Amantus]

the change of the black navy mega to the retard camo navy mega

fuck that bullshit

[Melichor]

the change of the black navy mega to the retard camo navy mega

fuck that bullshit

God how I raged in corp when I got online after that patch

[Rakshasa The Cat]

Basically... besides, I'm hardly a bandwagoner. I'm a console FPSer, aka a pariah on this forum. :monocledowns:
You just try to pull the pariah line-steppin bittervet front, but it doesn't make you cool even if you're a console FPSer... Once you start growing pubes you'll (hopefully) start realizing how retarded it is to go that route in some kind of effort to 'fit in by being a rebel'.

[Lusulpher]

I should probably explain why my sig is my eternal signal of sourness.

It is the "changing of the Guard".

When a new artist takes ahold of an IP and does not call back the successful designs and traditions for the remodel. It is a psychological flag, one that is coated in blood from the sodomy of the effort/s of the original artist/s.
This "New Guard" has ZERO RESPECT for me, my opinions or my influence. AND worse off, they taint the minds of the future generations.

That Scorpion is not a sarcastic parody of the 'Alien' queen, it is not a mis-anthropomorphized Hyperion to rally/appease the morale/disappointment of the Caldari FW...It is a death knell. And it's phonetic name is "awesome?".


HTFU + loss of authenticity + loss of ability for radical game change + IP over-expansion without original game design = EvE is dying. Pick your speed, but with no sign of turn-around, we already know the fate of Planetside/Matrix Online/Tabula Rasa and Star Wars Galaxy.

And yes, these are "just games" but the failure of these obviously products contributes to "The Malaise"[look it up, WWI-related]. "Ask not for whom the Bell tolls, it tolls for thee."

Now if you excuse me I have more mourning to do. :emo:

[CDLoon]

I should probably explain why my sig is my eternal signal of sourness.

It is the "changing of the Guard".

When a new artist takes ahold of an IP and does not call back the successful designs and traditions for the remodel. It is a psychological flag, one that is coated in blood from the sodomy of the effort/s of the original artist/s.
This "New Guard" has ZERO RESPECT for me, my opinions or my influence. AND worse off, they taint the minds of the future generations.

That Scorpion is not a sarcastic parody of the 'Alien' queen, it is not a mis-anthropomorphized Hyperion to rally/appease the morale/disappointment of the Caldari FW...It is a death knell. And it's phonetic name is "awesome?".


HTFU + loss of authenticity + loss of ability for radical game change + IP over-expansion without original game design = EvE is dying. Pick your speed, but with no sign of turn-around, we already know the fate of Planetside/Matrix Online/Tabula Rasa and Star Wars Galaxy.

And yes, these are "just games" but the failure of these obviously products contributes to "The Malaise"[look it up, WWI-related]. "Ask not for whom the Bell tolls, it tolls for thee."

Now if you excuse me I have more mourning to do. :emo:

Pretentious Prick.

[Haffrage]

Actually I agree with him tbh, I found the original designs of the eve ships really attractive. The scorp model in particular stood out as good. No idea why. Somehow the lack of symmetry added to the scale of the caldari ships to me, like it was so big that building another wing just for looks or balance for the engines was too costly. And that extended to the other ships since they were roughly the same size. Loads of crap, sure, but it just added to the game for me. I liked it that way.

I'd have REALLY liked if they used the new scorp for the widow, and left all the others alone. And then given ALL T2 ships the same treatment. Can you imagine an old scorp -> new scorp treatment for the megathron? I mean jesus fuck it would be awesome

[Sandy]

I'll just leave this here.

http://www.sturmcountry.org/pics2/psyccp.png

[Xiang Jiao]

Seconding the Myrmidon/Nos nerf (damps, too, as it was my first ewar), since I had just starting flying one the month before. Gallente has fallen on hard times since then.

I'm over the Helios model change by now, but I really do miss the old butterfly.

[Rupert]

Nano-nerf for me....

Stopping the super-ridiculous speeds was fine...

Taking away the ability of a well flown nano-ship to engage and disengage from a slow blob of BS and Drakes was definitely one of the turning points that has lead us to supercaps-online..

[Lusulpher]

Nano-nerf for me....

Stopping the super-ridiculous speeds was fine...

Taking away the ability of a well flown nano-ship to engage and disengage from a slow blob of BS and Drakes was definitely one of the turning points that has lead us to supercaps-online..

Except, that's not it at all...they fixed scrams and shipspeeds. Nano was what made Draekblobs popular in the first place, and Tech2 BPO/Techmine balancing is what allows people to print Supercaps for the tedium of Dominion...

Just need Tech prices to fall again and the skies will be filled with 100mil Vagas again[miss :moondupe: exploit :( ]

[Lady Spank]

I forgot one.

No more brown domi.

[bundus]

I forgot one.

No more brown domi.

I do love a good potato.

I miss the old scanning when you actually got excited when you got a hit.

[Rudolf Miller]

Soul crushing lag previous to the soul crushing lag message.

ZLZ during MAX1 soul crushing lag style of soul crushing lag.

Then realizing I had more fun playing other games in windowed mode during soul crushing lag.

[Al Simmons]

The nano nerf. Got the ishtar one week before that nerf. Welp.

Curse one week before the nerf checking in. Also had gotten into Claymores/Sleipnirs about 6 weeks before.

Got into the Vaga about a month before the nerf hit. I was pretty terrible with them and I managed to lose like 2 or 3 in that month, and I was seriously wondering what everyone was going on about with the supposed overpoweredness. Ofc I did have some cool moments like jumping into a gatecamp and just overheating and burning out of the bubble then warping out and continuing on my merry way. The ship is a sad shadow of it's former self tbh, really lame. Of course the new Cynabal has kinda made up for that, but it's still sad.

I also miss being able to actually speed tank in my Stiletto rather than the current thing of hopefully tank the damage with an MSE long enough for the rest of the gang to come in and kill them for you.

The Nos nerf didn't really affect me too much as I just fitted a cap booster instead of the noses on the tempest/cane. (Remember when we used to active armour tank? :lol: )

Since then, i've just generally become a bit tired of the game overall, with the massive alliances who just blob you to shit when you come to their space, :drakesonline: (sidenote: half of my loot cans for fitting ships is from like 2 years ago when people flew things other than drakes).

And just generally CCP not actually developing anything for the game that i'm interested in (lolPI lolincursions lolincarna), or even balancing it at all for the past like 1.5 years.

[firefoxx80]

Introduction of Titans. Playing for 4-5h night (and often hitting 23:00-01:00, due to US TZ), only to be wiped out through lag/doomsday - especially when your client showed you in-warp or arriving at a pos, only to be lag-killed by a doomsday from several moments before.

[GeromeDoutrande]

Supercaps (beating POS lag warfare and "ordinary" capital ships). The worst thing was FCs calling off fights because a Titan pilot (or worse, a "known Titan cyno alt") was online.

[Lilan kahn]

removal of concord agents and there option to bribe them :(

[Djan Seriy Anaplian]

Nano nerf was rather annoying.

Scan nerf made me rage and it still does lol

[Reed Tiburon]

[quote="Reed Tiburon":3djy0p9c]Basically... besides, I'm hardly a bandwagoner. I'm a console FPSer, aka a pariah on this forum. :monocledowns:
You just try to pull the pariah line-steppin bittervet front, but it doesn't make you cool even if you're a console FPSer... Once you start growing pubes you'll (hopefully) start realizing how retarded it is to go that route in some kind of effort to 'fit in by being a rebel'.[/quote:3djy0p9c]
so am I a rebel or sheeple? or am i both? plz continue, I'm quite interested in your psychoanalysis :roll:

[Er Murazor]

When the first time CCP actually does what they initially had said is release DUST on consoles.

[Ravelin Eb]

Warp to 0 ruined my game.

[Mr Marram]

I read an atricle written on massively about a guy in a NOS domi wiping a small gang out, I though, thats fucking awesome, DO WANT. I sub and start learning shit and generally being a nub then the nano nerf hits and that domi is now worthless :(

[Lana Torrin]

I read an atricle written on massively about a guy in a NOS domi wiping a small gang out, I though, thats fucking awesome, DO WANT. I sub and start learning shit and generally being a nub then the nano nerf hits and that domi is now worthless :(

I need a new space potato TBH...

[Tommy Vercetti]

Getting Minny BS V by training it after I unsubbed. Subbed back on a couple of months later, die and podded to a camp. Refit noob ship and forget to update clone. Couple of days later podded with a basic clone, no suprise to see where I lost 1mil SP. I still have Minny BS at IV because I'm too pissed off to spend a month on it.

Also a couple of times watched some inspiring vids (Myrm and nanos spring to mind), spend isk / time / sp getting setup for those fits and situations and then the nerf hits.

[Lana Torrin]

Getting Minny BS V by training it after I unsubbed. Subbed back on a couple of months later, die and podded to a camp. Refit noob ship and forget to update clone. Couple of days later podded with a basic clone, no suprise to see where I lost 1mil SP. I still have Minny BS at IV because I'm too pissed off to spend a month on it.

Also a couple of times watched some inspiring vids (Myrm and nanos spring to mind), spend isk / time / sp getting setup for those fits and situations and then the nerf hits.

The fix for this is to train all subcaps to max. Then you are nerf proof.. Until they nerf subcaps..

[Sponk]

Until they nerf subcaps..
...further.

[Cerbus]

1st Bitter Experience
Spending 2 years maxing skills out to fly eos with 450m3 drone space and pure win and they nerf it the day after i complete my plan and buy my first one.


2nd Bitter Experience
Spending 2 years + getting 12 accounts with 3 characters each and 5 research agents per character so that I have a chance of winning stuff in the T2 lotteries. About 4 months after I finish they remove T2 lottery from game.

1st NonBitter Experience
They introduce invention and mechanical datacores are selling for 5mil each. I have a motherload of R&D points which i'd never got to use due to them removing the t2 lottery and I'm turned into a trillionaire almost over night. :P

[Lana Torrin]

Until they nerf subcaps..
...further.

That was the... oh nevermind..

[EchoEpsilon23]

Buying a centaur set, and a week later the falcon nerf hit.

[Ashaz]

Nano nerf rage checking in. Actually my first bitter memory was the nos nerf, but that didn't bother me quite as much as the Myrmidon/Eos nerf. Myrmidon was my signature ship and I dreamed of one day flying an Eos. Ishkur was my favorite frigate hull. :backwhengallentewasgood:

This this and this. :cry:

I fucking loved my curse. and my domi. and my myrm. and just when I could fly the eos, they raped thatone too. :cut:

Also warp to zero is something i still today think was a terrible idéa.
Sure the instas were a mess, but surely there was some other way to solve it.

[Kothar]

Definitely the death of the dual-mwd raven/phoon that came with the mechanics changes in the Exodus expansion.

[Joshua Foiritain]

Seconding the Myrmidon/Nos nerf (damps, too, as it was my first ewar), since I had just starting flying one the month before. Gallente has fallen on hard times since then.

I'm over the Helios model change by now, but I really do miss the old butterfly.
hehe i undusted my cov ops alt 2 months ago (gallente char) and for the life of me i could not understand why she was sitting in an amarr cov ops. Until i looked up the gallente cov ops on the market and remembered not wanting to fly a fucking space tumor. :facepalm:

[DerWish]

Ascn made me bitter, not right away, back in the day azn had a good a market as Jensius, what made me bitter was the time when Cyvok went to test the jumpbridge to see how the lag was handled. We were given the order for sniping BS and about 500 formed up. I'm thinking "This is going to be awesome!" then he just tests it and logs, saying thanks. Right then I knew we would lose to bob, we had 500 guys ready to go kill something and the leadership couldn't pull their finger out to get an op going.

I was also among those 500 idiots who believed ASCN leadership 'had a plan'.
That was a real fucked up moment. Real bitter vet starter one.

2nd: T20 incident. Back then I was full with yeah-EVE-rocks and everything must be fine in CCP feeling. Those threads popped my bubble.

3rd: Nos-nerf. Killed so many good setups.

4th: Skilling up to be a pro-ceptor pilot, than ceptor-buff an now every kids on the block could fully equip their ceptor.

5th: Angel ship is the WIN in small PVP.

6th: Laaaaaaaag in Sov war and the SOV stupidity.

7th: Supercap-online

<I hide in WHs and L4 missions these days.>

I have to realize that reaching 10md ISK capital has made me care less for EVE. :psyduck:

[Dark 0men]

Figuring out how to decloak chinese farmers in their 60 AU safespots, killing a bunch, then getting bored with it just as they start logging off the moment they spot me in the same constellation :psyduck:

Also, eve hasn't been the same ever since rapier stopping being a 6km/sec lolwatmobile

[ry ry]

the day an ishtar outran my interceptor.

[Brimborium]

The first time i experienced HEAVY Lag, 7 jumps off the actual Battle, and the FC yelling "THIS IS ZERO-ZEROOO!"

[Djakku]

I got into interceptors like a day after the nano nerf, they changed stealth bombers so you couldnt lolwtf 1 shot frigs and gtfo a day before i got into them.

Oh edit: I rolled Gallente :facepalm:

[ottersmacker]

apocrypha shitting on my exploration jewgold by letting any retard do it
yeah, mine too probably in a way.
enter system and drop multispec, wait for the ~3min cycle (iirc?), then start making bookmarks in warp to drop your little quest/pursuit/comb/sift probes of the necessary flavour.. made you feel like a specialist not the player of a scanbubble moving minigame.

[Dwergi]

Training Gallente straight away up to T2 medium guns then cross-training to Minmatar and never flying a Gallente ship ever again.

[Savesti Kyrsst]

Nanonerf, second probing change, and having crosstrained two chars in Gallente for it both to become awful & to find out I'm terrible at flying blasterboats.

[Haffrage]

apocrypha shitting on my exploration jewgold by letting any retard do it
yeah, mine too probably in a way.
enter system and drop multispec, wait for the ~3min cycle (iirc?), then start making bookmarks in warp to drop your little quest/pursuit/comb/sift probes of the necessary flavour.. made you feel like a specialist not the player of a scanbubble moving minigame.
You should've tried the original probe system, fucking lol if you think that required skill or knowledge of the undocumented game mechanics. Back in my day we didn't even have 3d system maps, and we especially didn't have spherical probe scan ranges :monocledowns:

[Helicity]

I think the one that finally drove me over the edge was...

http://www.machine9.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/charid.jpg

72,000 hours.




http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/avatars/1301063364.png

[Reed Tiburon]

I think the one that finally drove me over the edge was...

http://www.machine9.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/charid.jpg

72,000 hours.




http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/avatars/1301063364.png
doyouwanttoknowmore.jpg

[EntroX]

I think the one that finally drove me over the edge was...

http://www.machine9.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/charid.jpg

72,000 hours.




http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/avatars/1301063364.png
doyouwanttoknowmore.jpg

"new eve forums"

[Reed Tiburon]

I think the one that finally drove me over the edge was...

http://www.machine9.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/charid.jpg

72,000 hours.




http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/avatars/1301063364.png
doyouwanttoknowmore.jpg

"new eve forums"
oh yeah :oops:

[Kanv]

apocrypha shitting on my exploration jewgold by letting any retard do it
The reta....sorry 'players' still can't get it though.

"I followed the tutorial video but my 9001 probes aren't picking anything up!!!"

[Xiang Jiao]

6/14/2011

PS - What's the new J ita - Jensius word filter all about? The only thing I can gather is that it's an homage to a PL pilot, or possibly Jesus.

[Cogs]

My bitterest Eve memory was the day I dual webbed an interceptor that still managed to get out of scram range of what was supposedly my anti-inty destroyer. Fucking nanos.

I realised then that i'd never win a 1v1 because I don't have the player skills, character skills, isk to spend on fotm ships, have any backup Falcon alts or a blob as backup.

I can look at a fit, understand how it works and the theory behind it, I just can't get it to work ingame. :cry:

[Haffrage]

My bitterest Eve memory was the day I dual webbed an interceptor that still managed to get out of scram range of what was supposedly my anti-inty destroyer. Fucking nanos.

I realised then that i'd never win a 1v1 because I don't have the player skills, character skills, isk to spend on fotm ships, have any backup Falcon alts or a blob as backup.

I can look at a fit, understand how it works and the theory behind it, I just can't get it to work ingame. :cry:
We're here to help in ceve :derper:

[Cogs]

My bitterest Eve memory was the day I dual webbed an interceptor that still managed to get out of scram range of what was supposedly my anti-inty destroyer. Fucking nanos.

I realised then that i'd never win a 1v1 because I don't have the player skills, character skills, isk to spend on fotm ships, have any backup Falcon alts or a blob as backup.

I can look at a fit, understand how it works and the theory behind it, I just can't get it to work ingame. :cry:
We're here to help in ceve :derper:
:companioncube:

[Synapse]

I raged pretty hard at 1 thing only:

1) Static complexes my corp used to income in lowsec...actually made lowsec worth living in until nerfed. Nothing has been done to lowsec since.


Truth is what made me :bittervet: is not what they changed, though I got bit by the nos nerf, nano nerf, ecm nerf, torpedo nerf, lazer nerf, max lock range nerf...etc
What pissed me off was that they were fiddling with each of those things, without changing 1) Sov mechanics and capitals 2) lowsec shittiness 3) mining and mission running sucking. It was the things that went years without gettign fixed, while decent mechanics got nerfed.

It was the permanent lag magnet of sov warfare that I finally couldnt do anymore after 5 years of it.

[Synapse]

As an aside:

ANY graphic improvement at all, made to a game which still fires missiles from the geometric center of the ship, is clearly a misallocation of time. Fucking ridiculous animated turret shit i'm looking at you.

[Al Simmons]

As an aside:

ANY graphic improvement at all, made to a game which still fires missiles from the geometric center of the ship, is clearly a misallocation of time. Fucking ridiculous animated turret shit i'm looking at you.

M8 the shiny balls of light missiles are why drakes are so good. They blind the Vaga pilots and they spin out and crash against the safety barriers.

[Xiang Jiao]

Aren't those called Balls of Destiny?

[RoemySchneider]

too many people being 'bitter' about op stuff getting nerfed, not enough mention of CCP's blatant shortcomings.

douchebags

[Vasponger]

i had my nano sac with Large polycarb rigs sitting in the shed up until a month ago.. , stacks of speed hardwirings too.

[Tellenta]

too many people being 'bitter' about op stuff getting nerfed, not enough mention of CCP's blatant shortcomings.

douchebags

Too many people whining about other peoples whining not being their kind of whining about CCP's shortcommings.

Cockfiends.

[Causto]

too many people being 'bitter' about op stuff getting nerfed, not enough mention of CCP's blatant shortcomings.

douchebags

Too many people whining about other peoples whining not being their kind of whining about CCP's shortcommings.

Cockfiends.


Careful now, we are three levels of whining down. Any further and we might not make it back.

[Wrack]

too many people being 'bitter' about op stuff getting nerfed, not enough mention of CCP's blatant shortcomings.

douchebags

Too many people whining about other peoples whining not being their kind of whining about CCP's shortcommings.

Cockfiends.


Careful now, we are three levels of whining down. Any further and we might not make it back.

WTF man, if you're gonna whine about how many levels of whining we have, you can't forget Leo.
:derper:

[Lana Torrin]

too many people being 'bitter' about op stuff getting nerfed, not enough mention of CCP's blatant shortcomings.

douchebags

Too many people whining about other peoples whining not being their kind of whining about CCP's shortcommings.

Cockfiends.


Careful now, we are three levels of whining down. Any further and we might not make it back.

WTF man, if you're gonna whine about how many levels of whining we have, you can't forget Leo.
:derper:

FFS stop crying about people forgetting leo when they are whining about people whining about people whining... :obama:

[Al Simmons]

Aren't those called Balls of Destiny?

No, they're more like the safety car.

[Android]

Overall, I've always been pretty happy with EVE. That being said, if its a bitterrage thread, I think I can find stuff to bitterrage about.

Fucking Helios looks retarded. Not what I trained for! NOT WHAT I BOUGHT! Insult to injury is that EAF are shit so my Helios was made to look retarded to shuffle ship art around for a ship that NOBODY USES. Good job CCP, you did "something", even if that something wasn't anything that people used and doing it crapped up something else in the game.

Tier 2 battlecruisers. Here, take all the CPU, Grid, and Slots that you could possibly want. Success! People like our new ships... Hey wait, why do half the ships in the game seem like shit now? The old CCP never would have let shit like that fly, there was always a catch when it came to fitting.

Ancillary Current Routers. Powergrid used to mean something. More of the same tier 2 battlecruiser "lets make it popular by letting them have their cake and eating it too".

Oh, and fuck local armor rep bonuses on my Gal ships. Once upon a time they were alright I guess, but in a universe where Tier 2 battlecruisers with too many high slots, enough grid to fit all the biggest guns into all those too many slots with maybe a single ancillary current router leaving them lows to fill with damage mods, are kicking your face in, the bonus is corner case at best and simply useless a lot of the time. Why exactly does the race that has the biggest damage application issues have the absolute worse survival bonuses again? Oh rite, CCP changed the game and couldn't be bothered to clean up the mess they made. Its almost like blaster tracking being based on webbing values, and those webbing values being changed for other reasons and CCP not following through by bothering to even look at blasters.

Also, CCP needs to do something about Caldari PvE. Caldari PvE has been fucking redic since forever, but when you've got something like wormholes where you are basically forced into Tengus because ONE of the FOUR ships you can build from sites you need to farm to build said ships simply shits all over the others when it comes to farming those sites... well they need to do their job and take a long hard look at why Caldari ships hit for as hard as they do out to the ranges that they do, and why none of the other races can do that, and why they make NPCs spawn out at those ranges. Wormholes would be perfect if it wasn't blatantly obvious that I'd be pants on the head retarded for wanting to run the PvE sites in race of ship that I actually want to fly.

[Redclaws]

Ascn made me bitter, not right away, back in the day azn had a good a market as Jensius, what made me bitter was the time when Cyvok went to test the jumpbridge to see how the lag was handled. We were given the order for sniping BS and about 500 formed up. I'm thinking "This is going to be awesome!" then he just tests it and logs, saying thanks. Right then I knew we would lose to bob, we had 500 guys ready to go kill something and the leadership couldn't pull their finger out to get an op going.

Lol I was there as well. Fucking Cyvok...

Was about the same time of the epic assault on Bob with pos-towers until: "Err... guys who brought the isotopes?" "Oh I knew I forgot something!" <all posses die without being onlined>
And the ones that did get on-lined had no guns...


But the most bitter memory is losing the station in ZS-2LT that I build with 15 of my corpmembers without alliance assistance.
We spend months mining for everything we needed and we enjoyed until BoB was done killing ASCN and came after us. Using titans and motherships to bump us out of the POS to ruin any chance we had of reorganizing. 3 days after we lost the station POSbumping was deemed an exploit...

[Blutreiter]

I had my first introduction to 0.0 when my first corp joined some faggy alliance I cannot recall anymore in Insmother, exactly around the time when RA went into full WEGONNARAPEYOU mode.

So many carebears, so many tears and so much rage for being one of the handful of pilots willing to pew for the rest of the fagliance.

Spent 2-3 years constantly fighting from corp to corp from alliance to alliance against RA until I have had it up to my ears with dickheads without any kind of spine. In retrospect... yeah, bitter. More about the carebears than RA.

The last coup-de-grace was my corp joining RISE. We all know how that ended.

[Blutreiter]

Oh, and the drone bandwidth nerf. CCP can go suck a cock for that one.

[Ralara]

I had my first introduction to 0.0 when my first corp joined some faggy alliance I cannot recall anymore in Insmother, exactly around the time when RA went into full WEGONNARAPEYOU mode.

So many carebears, so many tears and so much rage for being one of the handful of pilots willing to pew for the rest of the fagliance.

Aye - same for me... I was in Colossues Technologies at the time... I got kicked out for daring to pvp against the ruskies... in case they attacked us back.

When they were taking C-J6MT, one of our home systems.

Right.

[Blutreiter]

I had my first introduction to 0.0 when my first corp joined some faggy alliance I cannot recall anymore in Insmother, exactly around the time when RA went into full WEGONNARAPEYOU mode.

So many carebears, so many tears and so much rage for being one of the handful of pilots willing to pew for the rest of the fagliance.

Aye - same for me... I was in Colossues Technologies at the time... I got kicked out for daring to pvp against the ruskies... in case they attacked us back.

When they were taking C-J6MT, one of our home systems.

Right.
Colossus Technologies. I remember that.

[hattifnatt]

ima add another one: the day i realised my character belonged to one of the inferior races :(

[Rake Mizar]

losing a myrm in a dumb fight and not giving a shit because I knew drone bandwidth was coming the next day and the ship was going from awesome to suck.

[Melichor]

I was in some renter alliance that was in IAC when it held catch. ALthought I was a nubbin, I was glad to grab my t1 thoraxes to throw at BoB to stem the tide. Until IAC FCs wouldn't allow me to join them because I wasn't in T2, our alliance left soon after that, and IAC, well you know. So I suppose that regardless of my participation it would have folded, but I just wanted the pews!

[thebomby]

I think I had my most bitter moment in eve with the cash money dev hog today. Don't really feel like playing anymore tbh.

[Mona]

lets gather around the campfire and tell of those times when you got bitter.

Alliance Tournament IX.

[Liare]

I was in some renter alliance that was in IAC when it held catch. ALthought I was a nubbin, I was glad to grab my t1 thoraxes to throw at BoB to stem the tide. Until IAC FCs wouldn't allow me to join them because I wasn't in T2, our alliance left soon after that, and IAC, well you know. So I suppose that regardless of my participation it would have folded, but I just wanted the pews!tbh that kind of attitude is rather crap and bound to lower participation on a alliance wide scale in the long term, if the FC's in question had half a brain they would have asked you to train for T2 and fly tackle frigates until you could, a AC/MWD/scram/web Rifter is still useful, and probably the only setup that has retained its usefulness since eve's release.

[Cydo]

I was in some renter alliance that was in IAC when it held catch. ALthought I was a nubbin, I was glad to grab my t1 thoraxes to throw at BoB to stem the tide. Until IAC FCs wouldn't allow me to join them because I wasn't in T2, our alliance left soon after that, and IAC, well you know. So I suppose that regardless of my participation it would have folded, but I just wanted the pews!


Were you still in II then ? If so, hi from The IRIS.

As too bitter, when the nano-nerf hit and tackling inty's became killable. And the probing nerf, cause i used to be good at doing it before.

[spiralJunkie]

when IAC sent a faggy gang to I-N(our outpost system. we thought we were invincidogs) including a Mach(super rare at the time, especially in PVP) and a CNR(same). I undocked my dread thinking to scare them off, instead got bumped by a Jag 100+km off station, began shitting self, corpies arrived in carriers and won the day

[Doomed Predator]

I'm bitter about how turrets get ANOTHER fucking visual overhaul and yet missile users still to "enjoy" their shiny ball of destiny popping from the center of their ships.

Also bitter about how they raised various meta4,etc. drop rates causing prices to drop and making decent profit margins shit. And the fact that the market UI is so horrible it's should be renamed into the 8th deadly sin.

[Frug]

I think when rivqua started calling me bitter I realized it was true.

[Sobic]

EVE players make me bitter.

So many are such selfish little pricks, that would sell their souls to get their e-peen stroked.

That and Faction Warfare. The most awesome PVP on demand mechanic ever, put to waste.

Oh and shutting down my Corp because of RL issues that eventually cleared up. Funnest team of eve players ever. :cut:

[Sobic]

when IAC sent a faggy gang to I-N(our outpost system. we thought we were invincidogs) including a Mach(super rare at the time, especially in PVP) and a CNR(same). I undocked my dread thinking to scare them off, instead got bumped by a Jag 100+km off station, began shitting self, corpies arrived in carriers and won the day

That is a bitter moment?

You clearly haven't felt true EVE pain.

[Leboe]

There are people as good as me (not saying much) that have never been AOE DD'd or seen the old cyno effect

:psyduck:

[Haffrage]

Never been AOE dd'd sup sup

[Leboe]

Shrike and orange species, as a member of KoS

[Lana Torrin]

Been DD'd by blues crew checking in..

(was my own fault, i wasn't paying attention and missed the call.)

[NoirAvlaa]

6/14/2011

PS - What's the new J ita - Jensius word filter all about? The only thing I can gather is that it's an homage to a PL pilot, or possibly Jesus.

cEVE - Jensius did a lot of work making the client mostly English instead of squiggly, including map, system names, market etc. J ita got changed to Jensius in the cEVE client and on forums so we NEVAR FORGET!

[Catari Taga]

Started playing in 2009 (other than some trials in 2008), nice tight corp, one of the first to be in wormhole space. Finally at a point where we figured it all out and want to grow our numbers, bringing new members in and realizing that I had to answer basically every single question from the new ones with "that's a bug" or "yes, but there is a bug if ..." is probably where I became bitter for real.

Best bitter memory is easily EVE Gate Gate, which was just the last straw for me and I realized I had become far too bitter about something that should just be a game and should walk from it for good by doing what I then did. Haven't been bitter since.

[Plave]

Only one thing really made me bitter, Alliance P nerf. From the early forming of the corp up to Pewpewpalooza was the best fun I've had in Eve.

[Reed Tiburon]

plz explain? nowhere near a vet but i am most certainly bitter.


You're sour over crap that effected other people (and from what it sounds like, old crap that didn't effect you) rather than personal experience.
Not anymore.

[Cerbus]

MY MOST BITTER MEMORY IS WHEN I GAVE UP FREE TRIPS TO ICELAND AND SOLD ALL MY SHIT AND ALL I LOVE IN THIS WORLD IN PROTEST OF MICROTRANSACTIONS AND THEN NO-ONE BELIEVED ME EXCEPT LANA TORRIN

[Solanar]

MY MOST BITTER MEMORY IS WHEN I GAVE UP FREE TRIPS TO ICELAND AND SOLD ALL MY SHIT AND ALL I LOVE IN THIS WORLD IN PROTEST OF MICROTRANSACTIONS AND THEN NO-ONE BELIEVED ME

poor t'amber

you have a point though

[Lana Torrin]

MY MOST BITTER MEMORY IS WHEN I GAVE UP FREE TRIPS TO ICELAND AND SOLD ALL MY SHIT AND ALL I LOVE IN THIS WORLD IN PROTEST OF MICROTRANSACTIONS AND THEN NO-ONE BELIEVED ME

Stopped saying no one believed you.. There were a lot of people that believed you but we just got ignored..

[Haffrage]

MY MOST BITTER MEMORY IS WHEN I GAVE UP FREE TRIPS TO ICELAND AND SOLD ALL MY SHIT AND ALL I LOVE IN THIS WORLD IN PROTEST OF MICROTRANSACTIONS AND THEN NO-ONE BELIEVED ME
http://i.imgur.com/lNSPh.jpg

[Cerbus]

[quote="t'amber":2ztdwnzs]MY MOST BITTER MEMORY IS WHEN I GAVE UP FREE TRIPS TO ICELAND AND SOLD ALL MY SHIT AND ALL I LOVE IN THIS WORLD IN PROTEST OF MICROTRANSACTIONS AND THEN NO-ONE BELIEVED ME EXCEPT LANA TORRIN

Stopped saying no one believed you.. There were a lot of people that believed you but we just got ignored..[/quote:2ztdwnzs]

I know, I will never forget you and the other 1,000 people (inluding some of the 5th csms) who supported the cause
I've come to think that it was more a failure on my behalf than anyone elses but I'm not sure what else I could have done

[Lana Torrin]

[quote="Lana Torrin":2353ywj0][quote="t'amber":2353ywj0]MY MOST BITTER MEMORY IS WHEN I GAVE UP FREE TRIPS TO ICELAND AND SOLD ALL MY SHIT AND ALL I LOVE IN THIS WORLD IN PROTEST OF MICROTRANSACTIONS AND THEN NO-ONE BELIEVED ME EXCEPT LANA TORRIN

Stopped saying no one believed you.. There were a lot of people that believed you but we just got ignored..[/quote:2353ywj0]

I know, I will never forget you and the other 1,000 people (inluding some of the 5th csms) who supported the cause
I've come to think that it was more a failure on my behalf than anyone elses but I'm not sure what else I could have done[/quote:2353ywj0]


You couldn't have done anything more, its ok, we still love you.

[RoemySchneider]

lana's sig finally begins to make sense to me...

[Cerbus]

actually my most bitter memory is having trained all dreadnoughts, carriers and titans and not getting to fly any of them in battle once.

:facepalm:

[Al Simmons]

My most bitter memory is playing this game for 5 years and having nothing to show for it. :cut: :cut: :cut: :cut:

[Cerbus]

My most bitter memory is playing this game for 5 years and having nothing to show for it. :cut: :cut: :cut: :cut:

you have me

[Reed Tiburon]

actually my most bitter memory is having trained all dreadnoughts, carriers and titans and not getting to fly any of them in battle once.

:facepalm:
I never got to fly my tengu :cut:


[quote="Al Simmons":3tnp8tam]My most bitter memory is playing this game for 5 years and having nothing to show for it. :cut: :cut: :cut: :cut:

you have me[/quote:3tnp8tam]
<3<3<3

[Voxen Tass]

My first bitter moment was the very very first projectile nerf in 04. That made things a bit....tough for minmatar pilots right off the bat for quite some time.

My most bitter moment is realizing that CCP would never "iterate" Black OPs. I actually planned 3 characters to train that skill with all support skills and once I reached that milestone realized it was so niche it was mostly useless. Hot drop yay. Great fun. But way way to infrequent and way to expensive to utilize all the time - especially for poor fags.

The concept was so great - but so hampered right out of the box.

[Rakshasa The Cat]

This last week... Yes, I admit it, it finally happened.

Sure, I was mostly trolling you guys by pointing out logical fallacies and bad fact checking, and the MT they had announced they would implement was (at best) acceptable.

I was expecting a PLEX sink that would buy a constant stream of cloths, paint jobs and booze that was priced at a point where most people wouldn't really care that much when they eventually got podded and lost them all. What did we end up with instead?

Indestructible monocles for 3.5 PLEXes and CCP infested at the top with money-grubbing fucktards.

I'm now officially :bittervet: and don't feel a particularly strong incentive to finding a computer capable of running EVE after :SM3.0:.

[Lancehot]

I believed you, t'amber. I just didn't care.

[Lana Torrin]

I believed you, t'amber. I just didn't care.
Then this mess is on your head.

[Melichor]

Then this mess is on your head.

Grab your pitchforks

[TheManFromDelmonte]

The time I set up and ran a POS.
I still see progress bars in my nightmares.

[Tipz NexAstrum]

I suppose when they finally replied to the CNR having space cammo and said "It's artistic expression" I gave up. I mean, there's lazy and then there's HR hiring artists that have no idea what a spaceship is then have their boss say it's ok for production and never have it occur to anyone in the pipeline that it's utterly retarded. It spoke so much to the loss of the mentality that built the game in the first place.

[Xiang Jiao]

This last week... Yes, I admit it, it finally happened. I'm now officially :bittervet:

I welcome you to the ranks of The Bitter with open arms.

[Lana Torrin]

I welcome you to the ranks of The Bitter with open arms.
I don't.. Sod off and die.

[Hydro]

Was problably when I opened up a reimbursement for a zealot that died in highsec (was -10 atm and needed to go through a highsec pocket) because I dc'd and was popped by navy and was told by a GM "logs show nothing". This after 2 weeks prior the same problem had occured and I was given a full refund. Finding out later that people had been given the exact same canned copy pasta responses from CCP didn't help either.

[Batolemaeus]

The mood whiplash from the first dominion announcement (fuck yeah!) to when I saw what came to sisi.
Felt like a punch in the gut. After just a few minutes I knew it was a game changer towards a horribifucked eve.

Also, salvaged a mothership wreck on a roam in 2007. Had to eject my cap boosters (dual rep myrm). Failed the salvage..

[SSgtSniper]

Shrike and orange species, as a member of KoS


Shrike, twice. Once while flying with KoS.

[Dirk]

When CCP very obviously changed from the "look at our cool HTFU video" to "we're going to rape you for every penny, and hide as much as possible from you" :ccp:


Also, I'll admit to being a sheeple. Joined up and joined a bunch of people a hell of a lot older than me in game terms. Their bitterness very rapidly rubbed off.

[Bartholomeus Crane]

I didn't believe t'amber, because I didn't think CCP could ever be that retarded.

Then I got the newsletter when it was still hush hush and realised and admitted my mistake and unsubbed right then and there. Best thing I ever did.

But that wasn't what made me bitter ...

[Melichor]

I was also pretty bitter at the FW expansion. There was a huge lead up to (even a friggin book) and it could have been such an awesome expansion then it was released and CCP was like fuck it (like every expansion now a days). I could also say I hate how CCP doesn't know what the fuck it is doing when "rebalancing". Especially wh items. NIMs used to be hard to get so CCP instead of increasing the drop rate a little bit opened the flood gates, thus making nano ribbons the only thing you really want to salvage. My corp had a rather nice stack of NIMS and we all raged when the price plummeted worse the the stock markets

[indeterminacy]

I became bitter around the time of NC vs DRF in LXQ. Not the actual battle (shit as that was) but the series of fights over days that were mere slide shows inspite of CCP chestbeating about new heights in pilots per battle, etc, etc. They spun it and spun it, but you still couldn't play the fucking game in those conditions. The thing about it that makes people bitter (me at least) is the totally random nature of it all. You could fight, warp out, anchor, everything for 20 minutes then suddenly, nothing. Or you could run fine the whole time. Or you could never load and wake up in your med clone.

My activity declined from that point forward reaching a nadir after tribute fell, just before our corp gtfo pure blind.

Now, I'm back to as active as ever and it has nothing to do with CCP.

[illectro]

I suppose when they finally replied to the CNR having space cammo and said "It's artistic expression" I gave up. I mean, there's lazy and then there's HR hiring artists that have no idea what a spaceship is then have their boss say it's ok for production and never have it occur to anyone in the pipeline that it's utterly retarded. It spoke so much to the loss of the mentality that built the game in the first place.

I've always explained the space Camo as <lolrp> a fractal structure that goes through the whole hull of the ship, the fractal gets more detailed as you look at it more closely and makes reverse engineering the military grade technology almost impossible because the fractal masks design features. To copy a navy issue ship you'd need to scan the ship to molecular resolution (unless you had a mathematical model of the fractal). It's in reference to the Iain M Banks book 'Excession' where the fleet kept in deep storage has a fractal structure imprinted through it so that anyone trying to steal the ships would have to spend an inordinate amount of time scanning the hull for booby traps, whereas the actual owners know the mathematical description of the fractal and can instantly check.</lolrp>

[Virtuozzo]

I've always explained the space Camo as <lolrp> a fractal structure that goes through the whole hull of the ship, the fractal gets more detailed as you look at it more closely and makes reverse engineering the military grade technology almost impossible because the fractal masks design features. To copy a navy issue ship you'd need to scan the ship to molecular resolution (unless you had a mathematical model of the fractal). It's in reference to the Iain M Banks book 'Excession' where the fleet kept in deep storage has a fractal structure imprinted through it so that anyone trying to steal the ships would have to spend an inordinate amount of time scanning the hull for booby traps, whereas the actual owners know the mathematical description of the fractal and can instantly check.</lolrp>

lolrp on the side, that is an interesting angle to pursue in GD + embedding in lore.

[Liptonez]

I remember the first days I really started playing EVE (first 0.0 corp). Was back in ZAF then. I flew around with some alliance people, AFK'ed here, AFK'ed there, took this bridge, sat in that POS. Till we finally got into to system where the real stuff happened (after about 8 hours). We got told to warp to the staging POS at Moon whatever - whatever. I of course landed 40km off the pos, slowboated towards it, then some 200 BoB BS warped in at range and ganked me.

A couple weeks later I got killed + podded in my raven by a hero bubble, just seconds before 4 goon titans warped in to welp a 300 BoB + frands BS.

Oh I was mad (especially about that 8 hours in the drake).

[Ignition SemperFi]

-Red Moon Rising launch
-boot.ini
-removing standings of npc corps on other players
-ccp continuing to say they have "fixed drones"
-bullshit randomized bug/petition responses
-warp to zero
-continuing to reduce scamming in eve except for a few nitche ways. WTB ESCROW or free form contracts back
-nighthawk being acknowledged by CCP in '08 that it was broken and needed balanced (aka more grid)
-ACR's rigs having no drawbacks and pretty much eliminating the AWU5 barrier
-Never UNnerfing BOps
-loosing my pod somehow twice by the same person at the same exact time in a laggy system. i somehow lost both my med clone and then the 900k sp clone which made me loose Caldari BS 5. logs show nothing but i received to pod killmails. never reimbuirsed for that lost SP
-Removing all the old killmails instead of converting them into current killmail display in the char sheet
-Nerfing bump mechanics
-Torp nerf
-having wasted getting some useless skill to 5 then the skill you want prereqs change, now leaving you with useless SP

[Rakshasa The Cat]

I don't.. Sod off and die.

No worries; the good folks at Transgaming did some hacking that allows for X1600 on Mac to run by ignoring the missing SM3.0 features. So now I'm no longer bitter.

[Lana Torrin]

No worries; the good folks at Transgaming did some hacking that allows for X1600 on Mac to run by ignoring the missing SM3.0 features. So now I'm no longer bitter.
Oh sweet! So they did to directX what was supposed to be done by directX then.. Offload what the card can do and then fudge the rest in software, not what microsoft does which is offload what the card can do and then just not accept anything else..

[Gentle Glide]

1. Warp to 0, huge F U to lowsec.
2. Web Nerf.
3. Nos Nerf.
4. Adding rigs that increase armor (YEA \o/) having those rigs increase mass making ships who need to get on target and WEB/NOS/DPS targets f-ing useless (/o\)
5. Hating Gallente.
6. Releasing an update nobody wanted to achieve your vision, meanwhile 40m of pure gall sp just got respeced to minni so i can be viable in PVP.

7-infinity (every nerf that crushed gallente ships especially the eoh/myrm/ishtar ever)

[Lana Torrin]

2. Web Nerf.
3. Nos Nerf.
4. Adding rigs that increase armor (YEA \o/) having those rigs increase mass making ships who need to get on target and WEB/NOS/DPS targets f-ing useless (/o\)


Thats the trifector of the gallente nerf right there.. Adding to that is the forever buggy don't do what I tell you drones and the pore performance of both blasters and rails and you have why I can never fly the only race I have 'perfect' specs for again..

That and with the addition of rigs it became easy to shield tank minmatar so that they get a good tank, good agility, good speed, good range and good DPS. (Amarr also feeling some of the hate, but they get the range with lazors to counter the speed drop)

[Rakshasa The Cat]

Oh sweet! So they did to directX what was supposed to be done by directX then.. Offload what the card can do and then fudge the rest in software, not what microsoft does which is offload what the card can do and then just not accept anything else..

It does however look like shit... And to be fair to MicroSoft, the ATI X1600 windows drivers actually do emulate those SM3.0 features in software and most of that spec is actually supported by the GPU (but runs slowly since software emulation sucks ass). The issue was really that the ATI osx drivers were no longer supported.

[Lana Torrin]

It does however look like shit... And to be fair to MicroSoft, the ATI X1600 windows drivers actually do emulate those SM3.0 features in software and most of that spec is actually supported by the GPU (but runs slowly since software emulation sucks ass). The issue was really that the ATI osx drivers were no longer supported.

I wasn't being specific about that card.. I expected it to look like shit (hence 'fudge it') but at least it runs..

[Samp]

Nano ships are OP!
Me starts training for vagga / nerf
EOS is most OP ship in game
Me starts training for EOS / nerf
Becasue of Flacon!
Me / nerf

Currently with my main I can fly (with good fits) 180 ships so now they actualy have to break the game to fuck me up.

[Marlona Sky]

Nano ships are OP!
Me starts training for vagga / nerf
EOS is most OP ship in game
Me starts training for EOS / nerf
Becasue of Flacon!
Me / nerf

Currently with my main I can fly (with good fits) 180 ships so now they actualy have to break the game to fuck me up.

LOL!! Story of my life with this game. Every time I decide to jump on the current OP ship bandwagon, CCP nerfs it very quickly after I train for it.

[Hurricane]

Currently with my main I can fly (with good fits) 180 ships so now they actualy have to break the game to fuck me up.

Are you sure you want to challenge CCP like that ?


My bitterest memory was the nano nerf for sure.

Flew drakes on my main for a long while in PVP (back in 2007 / early 08) and then realised "hold on, my alt can be in a vaga in about a week with good skills !"

/trains

few weeks after I got the skill / money to actually get one, nanonerf -_-

[Rakshasa The Cat]

few weeks after I got the skill / money to actually get one, nanonerf -_-
I never bothered with going the nano-fag path, the incoming nerf was so obvious... And behold; after just a year or so it did come. ^_^

[AssaultHamster]

Not stealing more from ASCN before it imploded.

Used to love their mining ops. I always brought a hauler and kept 50% of whatever I picked up. I should have just kept it all, useless alliance, no-one ever checked.

[mira o'karr]

started playing eve and read about a small group of people sticking it to the big boys by running around in cruise kestrels.
thought that was so cool that i started training just to finish in time for cruise missile from standard launcher to be nerfed.

nano nerf was particularly hard as eve has felt slow and sluggish ever since.

[dpidcoe]

The address book nerf literally ruined eve for me. I did highsec wardecs with this character, and without folders could no longer organize between wartargets, potential wartargets, people I just didn't like, etc. without screwing up standings on overview. My secondary activity was scamming with another character, and I had every single person I'd ever scammed or attempted to scam organized in folders based on what scam was attempted, if they fell for it, if a scam was in progress etc. That's pretty much the point where I started paying to queue up skills.

I finally realized I no longer wanted to play eve when they nerfed standings visibility, and unsubbed for good after walking in closets showed me without a doubt what ccp thinks of player feedback and what direction they're taking the game.

[cillisia]

The address book nerf literally ruined eve for me. I did highsec wardecs with this character, and without folders could no longer organize between wartargets, potential wartargets, people I just didn't like, etc. without screwing up standings on overview. My secondary activity was scamming with another character, and I had every single person I'd ever scammed or attempted to scam organized in folders based on what scam was attempted, if they fell for it, if a scam was in progress etc. That's pretty much the point where I started paying to queue up skills.

I finally realized I no longer wanted to play eve when they nerfed standings visibility, and unsubbed for good after walking in closets showed me without a doubt what ccp thinks of player feedback and what direction they're taking the game.

can i have your stuff?

[AssaultHamster]

and unsubbed for good after walking in closets

lol faggot.

[RoemySchneider]

http://www.homeworld2complex.com/images/Action/sa13.jpg

when you couldn't see/make out the ships, at least you could see the trails - applied to both homeworld (2) and eve.
alas, now all there is white boxes and ctrl+F9 is only beautiful with lasers -.-

[Cool09]

http://notasoutstandingasitoncewas.ytmnd.com/

[Bittervet]

My encouters with CCP's customer services... those and not the 8 hours in a pos waiting type stuff are my bitterest memories.

Lets see.

In an L4 with a CNR (not THAT pimp either) and the modules start randomly shutting down, like it's out of cap or missiles. But instantly starts up again when I tell it to do so (and the cap is fine). Randomly modules (like my tank) turning off and the agro messing up = dead CNR. And a swift pettition to get that sucker back. 4 weeks later and the only updates to the thing are me pointing out that a) I'd like the CNR back plz b) It's happening again & again with the same mission in the same system and d) Here is the bug I raised.

Ship returned after another month. Bug closed: No Fault Found. I have seen people in local, in that system, complain it just went tits up and they exploded since then.

They refactor the UI code (pre CarbonUI refactor). Patchnotes warn the market UI will be at its defaults. Login, reset everything, start buying. Defect raised that the UI is resetting everytime you purchase something, pettition raised to reverse a transaction. Cue 8 hotfixes later, one of which is to fix the actual problem I'd reported and the pettition is closed with words to the effect of "There are no bugs in EVE."

Jump a Zealot in to a hot system, grid doesn't load. I die. I get a screenshot of my ship sat next to my pod sat next to my corpse... which has recharged it's shields. CCP Atlas comes in to local appologising. I grab screenshot and host it. File pettition to get ship back linking to the picture of a CCP employee saying "opps our bad". Junior GM gets stroppy, refuses to escelate and closes the pettition with what amounts to "There is no lag in EVE". The picture was accessed a grand total of... once. By me. Making sure it was viewable externally.


I do not pay £30 a month to be told, officially, that an officially recognised defect doesn't actually exist and you aren't going to resolve a problem that meant I just wasted days/weeks/months of my time. Pointed this out in the GM Gimli devblog from a while back. I also pointed out that if their logs show nothing perhaps they should try actually opening them and not just looking at a blank window.

[noobcake]

Currently with my main I can fly (with good fits) 180 ships so now they actualy have to break the game to fuck me up.

uhhh...so then you shouldve been fucked up a long time ago, no?

[noobcake]

lol faggot.

quoting this for irony...

[Lana Torrin]

I do not pay £30 a month to be told, officially, that an officially recognised defect doesn't actually exist and you aren't going to resolve a problem that meant I just wasted days/weeks/months of my time. Pointed this out in the GM Gimli devblog from a while back. I also pointed out that if their logs show nothing perhaps they should try actually opening them and not just looking at a blank window.

I have lost so many ships to server crashes/verified lag (as in a dev has verified it was a server issue)/database errors and have never got a single one back. I stopped even bothering to petition them a few years ago. This doesn't even rate as even one of my most slightly bitter bits in eve.

[thebomby]

I never got to fly my tengu :cut:

Me neither :cry:

[thebomby]

http://www.homeworld2complex.com/images/Action/sa13.jpg

when you couldn't see/make out the ships, at least you could see the trails - applied to both homeworld (2) and eve.
alas, now all there is white boxes and ctrl+F9 is only beautiful with lasers -.-I'm not really a computer gamer. Before EVE. the only games I ever bought were the three Homeworld games (all 3 run just fine in VMWare thank god). In retrospect, after all this bullshit drama with CCP, I will still play Homeworld long after Eve has become a bad memory.

[Barbaro55a]

Homeworld is the best way to spend a hungover Sunday.