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RazoR
November 13 2013, 02:51:16 PM
Yup, it's coming.

http://warthunder.com/en/news/337-Ground-Forces-closed-beta-announcement-en

First "mission" is nothing special, i guess they just want active playas.

13th november 60/30/30 ground targets.
14th november 35/18/6 players (while flying A6M2, P-39N-0, Spitfire Mk.IIb, Yak-1B or Bf.109E-3).
15th november 30/10/5 player fighters.
16th november 40/10/7 players while flying german planes (not italian).
17th november 50/25/10 ground targets while flying british planes

metacannibal
November 13 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Time to play HB!

RazoR
November 13 2013, 04:40:32 PM
fucking groundfarming shits in my bulge event i swer to christ ill rek those kunts

fake edit: nope. 5 kills in G-10 and our team still loses.

Venec
November 13 2013, 04:56:27 PM
So the closed beta will be full of mong Soviet players. Great.

rufuske
November 13 2013, 05:24:00 PM
Queued for operation event with IL2M.

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/705106665861419327/0CB733B12844833E25FDD90DE17595F89C95D088/

RazoR
November 13 2013, 05:25:25 PM
>battle time 0:00

waw such luck much farm

rufuske
November 13 2013, 05:32:28 PM
I know, right? Somehow it always puts me in 6v6 matches and everyone went the other way.

And that's what happens when I play with Typhoon:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1404559_678106318873945_864408634_o.jpg


Another 6v6, I played Rule Britannia on youtube afterwards. Happy?

RazoR
November 13 2013, 06:02:32 PM
yes

GOD SAVE ZE QUEEN

Picked up the duckplane, much hilarity was had when two la-7s crashed after a failed dive.

RazoR
November 13 2013, 06:48:23 PM
http://onebit.us/x/i/RVPErGAifC.jpg

quack

Accipiter
November 14 2013, 08:44:22 AM
Never played HB before. Are planes/ground targets still shown with markers (like those easy to spot dots where they are waiting for you)?

RazoR
November 14 2013, 09:08:15 AM
Never played HB before. Are planes/ground targets still shown with markers (like those easy to spot dots where they are waiting for you)?As soon as they enter your pilot's vision area, yes. Strategic targets and allies are always visible.

I remember there was a bug (maybe) in spring (it sure was a lot of old berlin) where all the markers fucked off unless they were in your immediate vicinity, was fun.

Torashuu
November 14 2013, 11:04:42 AM
Didn't have time to finish the achievement, though found its terribly fun to fly A20g in lowtiers. So fast, so sturdy.

Orilt
November 14 2013, 12:42:29 PM
The archievement mixed the lowtier pretty much up.
Beaufighters everywhere! Poor germans didn't know what hit them.

Had real problems to score with my spitfire because the beaufighters finished the enemy so quick...

cerui
November 14 2013, 12:46:35 PM
Sooo, do you have a chance (albeit lower) if you partial finish each mission. Say I manged to take out 40 ground targets yesterday which is tier 2 and I know I can reach tier 1 very easily today but I still so new/not good at this game that I don't think I can reach 35 kills. Even if the spitfire mark IIs are my favourite. And yes I'm an arcade fag, first flight game I really play so I'm pretty sure I'll get slaughtered like a newbie in a battleship in Amamake if I play Historical Battles

lucian
November 14 2013, 01:21:55 PM
This was an easy one...just busted out the tier 2-3 soviet bombers, and had 60 kills in 3 and a half rounds. Any ground target worked, so hunting down AA, light pillboxes, and armored cars is the way to go.

RazoR
November 14 2013, 01:46:16 PM
Sooo, do you have a chance (albeit lower) if you partial finish each mission. Say I manged to take out 40 ground targets yesterday which is tier 2 and I know I can reach tier 1 very easily today but I still so new/not good at this game that I don't think I can reach 35 kills. Even if the spitfire mark IIs are my favourite. And yes I'm an arcade fag, first flight game I really play so I'm pretty sure I'll get slaughtered like a newbie in a battleship in Amamake if I play Historical BattlesI don't think so.

Currently flying HBs in IIb, this shit is amazing.

Isyel
November 14 2013, 01:51:57 PM
Sooo, do you have a chance (albeit lower) if you partial finish each mission. Say I manged to take out 40 ground targets yesterday which is tier 2 and I know I can reach tier 1 very easily today but I still so new/not good at this game that I don't think I can reach 35 kills. Even if the spitfire mark IIs are my favourite. And yes I'm an arcade fag, first flight game I really play so I'm pretty sure I'll get slaughtered like a newbie in a battleship in Amamake if I play Historical BattlesI don't think so.

Currently flying HBs in IIb, this shit is amazing.

get on ts you terrible russian

dpidcoe
November 14 2013, 03:52:22 PM
Can these be completed in arcade? It was no problem at all to just carpet bomb a tank convoy for a ton of ground kills iirc.

Hel OWeen
November 14 2013, 04:18:26 PM
Yes. I flew two rounds in noob planes yesterday and was surpirsed to find out that it counted the 6 light vehicles I destroyed while flying by towards this. You can see your progress on this in Profile -> Achievements -> Special.

RazoR
November 14 2013, 05:38:23 PM
Can these be completed in arcade?

http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/no-3.jpg

dpidcoe
November 15 2013, 01:17:29 AM
Can these be completed in arcade?

http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/no-3.jpg

apparently yes. Though the blue mission text in the hanger screen doesn't match what the achievement it says to look at is counting, so idkwtf.

RazoR
November 15 2013, 08:38:18 AM
Well, obviously.

Arcade is still for faggots though :razor:

Kilabi
November 15 2013, 04:16:43 PM
I thought the missions can only be finished on the very day they come out. Thank god I checked the medals again after I had my 30 kills today and saw it is still counting up with the ground targets (had an amazing 3). 2 more rounds and I have at least 2 days complete now.

RazoR
November 15 2013, 04:54:12 PM
Really? Well, i'm not taking any chances here.

http://onebit.us/x/i/61jYidFpQI.jpg

Kilabi
November 15 2013, 05:17:08 PM
Tempted to do the E-3 kills over time but cba to grind it out right now.

Kilabi
November 16 2013, 10:29:19 AM
40 Kills with german planes today. Ingame MotD already updated but HP and achievements not. Think I am gonna wait to not play too much.

Kilabi
November 16 2013, 12:41:26 PM
HATTRICK!

Looks like they fixed it now. Day 2 thingy does no longer update for me and the description is gone. Looks like you have to finish the stuff actually on the right day now.

RazoR
November 17 2013, 05:26:25 PM
should i fucking do everything around ehre

http://onebit.us/x/i/YM1Q4MOKgW.jpg

http://onebit.us/x/i/yj4QMy3kV2.jpg

Kilabi
November 17 2013, 06:09:49 PM
I am missing the 14th. Got 2nd tier on it before they turned it off. I am not sure how long I will be able to play this game on a daily basis before throwing a tantrum tho.

Pilot knocked out is such a horrible mechanic. Would rather see the pilot getting reset to 0 skill and -30 G-tolerance and getting random red and blackouts or something than this horrible instadeath shenanigans going on right now. Even my bomber with 2 pilots got instaknocked out by a freaking SU-2 from behind today which has to be the epitome of bullshit.

dpidcoe
November 17 2013, 06:44:35 PM
Even my bomber with 2 pilots got instaknocked out by a freaking SU-2 from behind today which has to be the epitome of bullshit.
Yeah, that's exactly the kind of BS that makes me mad about flying bombers.

Kilabi
November 18 2013, 10:31:08 AM
So for todays mission I am thinking JU-87 variants. Those should count as bomber and not attacker right?

Which of the russian Pe-Xs count as bomber for the russians? B-25 for the mericans?

teds :D
November 18 2013, 11:07:53 AM
pe3 works, nice low tier too.

teds :D
November 18 2013, 11:23:54 AM
or it should at least. just popped 2 kingfishers and it hasn't counted :/

Kilabi
November 18 2013, 01:06:11 PM
From their forum:

Update - List of qualifying aircrafts for this mission have been published:

USSR: Ar-2, Il-4, Po-2, all modifications: Ar-2, Pe-2/3, SB and Tu-2.

Germany: Ar.234, all modifications: He.111, Ju-87/88, Wellington Mk (trophy).

USA: All modifications "Boeing" В-17, В-25, В-24, BTD-1, PBY-5(а) "Catalina", SBD-3, TBF-1c.

GB: Swordfish Mk.l, Blenheim Mk.lV, Beaufort Mk.Vlll, Lancaster Mk.lll, all modifications: Wellington

Japan: B5N2, G4M1, G5M1, G8M1, H6K4, all modifications: Ki-49.

RazoR
November 18 2013, 01:08:43 PM
or it should at least. just popped 2 kingfishers and it hasn't counted :/Notice how it says HEAVY FIGHTER in Pe-3 card.

faget

teds :D
November 18 2013, 01:46:48 PM
notice how it also says 'bomber', and the ju87s say 'attacker' yet those count

fagat

teds :D
November 18 2013, 01:48:08 PM
i SUPPOSE i could use kate and let bombers smash pointlessly into my gunners

Kilabi
November 18 2013, 03:12:11 PM
Ju87s worked fine. For one the 37mm is fine to kill shit and there are enough people around trying to finish this.

dpidcoe
November 18 2013, 03:33:46 PM
Also maybe something that carries rockets. I think some of the russian aircraft on that list are capable.

teds :D
November 18 2013, 03:51:12 PM
yeah pe3 can take rokkits

dpidcoe
November 19 2013, 04:02:17 AM
my pe3 can't carry rockets yet :(

I have managed two bomber kills with russian bombers though. Almost had a 3rd but a hurricane stole it.

edit: and right after I post I nail 3 bombers in a row. Took the control surfaces off a blenheim from the rear, passed under and let the tail gunner have at him from point blank. Turned around and dove on an Ar-2, missed him in a cloud but snagged another Pe3 with a cockpit shot, then turned again and noticed the Ar-2 had landed for an easy strafing run.

RazoR
November 19 2013, 12:03:45 PM
Immediately got two beauforts and two beaufighters in my D-5.

l2thunder
http://onebit.us/x/i/4f7fyyzdmr.jpg

Crashed into the last beau because :effort: dodging and :not sure if: teamates coudl kill him anyway.

Isyel
November 19 2013, 03:56:08 PM
when teds told me the ki45 counts for the event: many lols were had

Kilabi
November 19 2013, 05:00:44 PM
I had 3 kills left to do and just lost 5 pilots in a single game. I think i got 1 kill and 1 assist in that round ffs.

fake edit: while typing this i respawned, lost that pilot also. And another 2 assists.
fake edit 2: Apparently 2 of the guys I shot just crashed after i spawned my last plane and the kills count now. Thank god, I could not stand another round.
fake edit 3: Predictable I lost my last plane, my wellington, after getting my pilot knocked out from behind by a Yak-1.

dpidcoe
November 19 2013, 10:47:49 PM
fake edit 3: Predictable I lost my last plane, my wellington, after getting my pilot knocked out from behind by a Yak-1. I spent an entire round arguing with some moron who insisted that aircraft aren't armored and therefore a 50 cal from the rear is completely expected to kill the pilot because no aircraft designer in their right mind would put a 30kg steel plate behind the seat specifically to keep that from happening :roll:

However, I did have it pointed out to me that my bomber pilots only have like 15 vitality. Supposedly they stop dieing so much when they get more in the range of 30-50.

At least the new thing for today is just getting any air kills flying anything I feel like (hello russian biplanes with tracers)

RazoR
November 20 2013, 11:12:14 AM
Haha! Getting sea meteor for this shit.

QuackBot
November 20 2013, 12:00:12 PM
my pe3 can't carry rockets yet :(

I have managed two bomber kills with russian bombers though. Almost had a 3rd but a hurricane stole it.

edit: and right after I post I nail 3 bombers in a row. Took the control surfaces off a blenheim from the rear, passed under and let the tail gunner have at him from point blank. Turned around and dove on an Ar-2, missed him in a cloud but snagged another Pe3 with a cockpit shot, then turned again and noticed the Ar-2 had landed for an easy strafing run.
Well it's not chiefie's but, it's a bomber.

Venec
November 20 2013, 04:04:37 PM
Time to dust off those little Buffalos.

Hoggbert
November 20 2013, 06:50:04 PM
Hellcat glories ahead!

dpidcoe
November 22 2013, 07:11:12 AM
Trying to be top of the team for a victory is making this worse than WoT in terms of retarded teamates.

Hoggbert
November 22 2013, 09:16:45 AM
Except you can singlehandedly carry a team to victory in this game to a much bigger degree than world of RNG

Kilabi
November 22 2013, 10:42:35 AM
Fuck, don´t have a single heavy bomber unocked for today. Could spend 1k gold to bump up my russians but not really sure I want to do that.

Kilabi
November 22 2013, 05:39:45 PM
x5 experience for the first victory on every nation

15% special discount for XP conversion: USSR, Japan


Achievements:

While flying I-15 WR, I-15 M-22, I-15 R, I-15 bis destroy 40/25/10 enemy aircraft in Arcade/History/Full-Real Battles respectively.

While flying Ki-10-I, Ki-10-I C, Ki-10-II, Ki-10-II C destroy 40/25/10 enemy aircraft in Arcade/History/Full-Real Battles respectively.

While flying any USSR aircraft destroy 50/30/7 enemy aircraft in Arcade/History/Full-Real Battles respectively.

While flying any Japanese aircraft destroy 50/30/7 enemy aircraft in Arcade/History/Full-Real Battles respectively.

You may earn up to 140 000 Silver Lions completing these achievements, and each of them will be counted as a 'Ground Forces HQ' mission, increasing your chances of being invited to the ground forces closed beta.

(You can check your progress in your game profile — 'Achievements' tab)

Nearly missed that one. Thanks filingo.

Constantinus
November 22 2013, 06:27:56 PM
Meh, screw the ground forces beta. The challenges are getting ever more dumber. Flying heavy bombers is nothing but a chore.

Isyel
November 23 2013, 02:15:09 AM
g5 in historicals <3 so easy lol

balistic void
November 23 2013, 10:24:49 AM
The Do217 E1 seems like the best german ground attack plane. That fixed 20mm cannon in front helps farm lots of kills.

HOWEVER - the next version Do217 has a 20mm turret in front. Which is fucking useless since the pilot can't fire it :(

metacannibal
November 23 2013, 11:36:17 AM
Meh, screw the ground forces beta. The challenges are getting ever more dumber. Flying heavy bombers is nothing but a chore.

You should not expect that you will have to fill ALL tasks to get in. Chances are they will give each achievement a score and do a sum of that, plus random picks regardless of score.

dpidcoe
November 23 2013, 03:42:06 PM
Meh, screw the ground forces beta. The challenges are getting ever more dumber. Flying heavy bombers is nothing but a chore.
That's basically what I said when I logged in yesterday and decided to fly biplanes.

RazoR
November 24 2013, 12:44:43 PM
So yeah, i missed yesterday's because XCOM. Oh well.

Kilabi
November 25 2013, 11:20:53 AM
Rabble rabble rabble japs rabble rabble rabble. Another pass for me today.

Isyel
November 25 2013, 02:22:01 PM
Rabble rabble rabble japs rabble rabble rabble. Another pass for me today.

funny how i had a lot more problems with the kills in the russian biplanes in historical than the japanese... they just handle like pigs :(

Kilabi
November 25 2013, 02:49:38 PM
Problem is more my being only tier 4 so shooting bombers, or even finding bombers, is kind of hard.

Isyel
November 25 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Problem is more my being only tier 4 so shooting bombers, or even finding bombers, is kind of hard.

yeah i feel your pain, i was thinking of the previous event

RazoR
November 28 2013, 01:54:24 PM
sobad
http://img3.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/War-Thunder-танки-графоний-песочница-967573.jpeg

Hoggbert
November 28 2013, 03:14:17 PM
30 kills with soviet piston fighters is a go

come join the hoggbert happy go time flying-club

RazoR
November 28 2013, 03:17:27 PM
30 kills with soviet piston fighters is a go

come join the hoggbert happy go time flying-clubNah mate i'm going to play The Pit for awhile (more like until 1.37 hits).

Hoggbert
November 28 2013, 03:24:16 PM
The pit? Sounds like a opium-den

RazoR
November 28 2013, 04:26:55 PM
The pit? Sounds like a opium-denDo you live in a cave? Oh right, of course you do like a proper troll should.

http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/233700/capsule_467x181.jpg

lucian
November 29 2013, 02:32:04 AM
The pit? Sounds like a opium-denDo you live in a cave? Oh right, of course you do like a proper troll should.

http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/233700/capsule_467x181.jpg

Those con-artists actually put out a completed game that people are willing to play??

QuackBot
November 29 2013, 04:00:23 AM
yeah i feel your pain, i was thinking of the previous event
I share your pain.

RazoR
November 29 2013, 09:42:14 AM
The pit? Sounds like a opium-denDo you live in a cave? Oh right, of course you do like a proper troll should.

http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/233700/capsule_467x181.jpg

Those con-artists actually put out a completed game that people are willing to play??

They finally got that they are an indie studio, lelelel.

teds :D
November 29 2013, 09:52:48 PM
gunner kills

HELLO 9T

Kilabi
December 3 2013, 06:43:44 PM
http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?%2Ftopic%2F82416-ground-forces-cbt-incoming-final-hq-mission-tomorrow%2F


TOMORROW BITCHES!!!

dpidcoe
December 12 2013, 01:55:10 AM
So presumably it's started, is it any good? How does it compare with WoT?

RazoR
December 12 2013, 11:30:09 AM
Jesus christ someone plz say already if it's good or i should drop my 50 bux on BF4.

Torashuu
December 12 2013, 11:57:45 AM
Don't think anyone is in yet from FHC. Those who bought to pack won't be joining in for a while.

Lief Siddhe
December 13 2013, 02:49:04 AM
Jesus christ someone plz say already if it's good or i should drop my 50 bux on BF4.

sobad

RazoR
December 13 2013, 05:48:12 AM
no u

RazoR
December 17 2013, 07:53:21 AM
IT'S HAPPENING.gif

album full of screens
http://imgur.com/a/ol0k0

http://i.imgur.com/6qZaLYyh.jpg

comparing with world of bads
http://imgur.com/a/cM7fe

Isyel
December 17 2013, 12:18:51 PM
oh wow the details

RazoR
December 17 2013, 12:28:08 PM
The splerging about rust is epic. WoTonkers be mad.

Herstal
December 17 2013, 12:28:31 PM
A+ for models. Now let me into the beta!!111

Hel OWeen
December 17 2013, 04:37:00 PM
They all look good. I like the weared out look of the Tiger H.

Venec
December 17 2013, 04:39:26 PM
They all look good. I like the weared out look of the Tiger H.

Dat Pz4 though.

Lief Siddhe
December 18 2013, 09:28:06 AM
WoT is deaded

Venec
December 18 2013, 02:01:38 PM
WoT is deaded

Fuck it with a rake. The sooner it dies, the better.

Alistair
December 18 2013, 05:32:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/32lTqDCh.jpg

That is hardon inspiring.

How the hell did WoT not see to it that one looking like didn't end up in WoT?

Kilabi
December 21 2013, 11:13:20 PM
http://imgur.com/a/5Mje2

Some leaks from china apparently.

RazoR
December 26 2013, 07:00:15 PM
http://warthunder.com/en/news/392/current/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ftOqklLoE

metacannibal
December 26 2013, 07:14:51 PM
WT plays alot less arcade than WOT.

fucking shooting is hard :/

helgur
December 26 2013, 10:08:33 PM
Offer to sell a tank pack to customers in order to get early access and into the second beta wave

When successfully received money, tell your customers you can only play 16 hours/week

GG

Herstal
December 26 2013, 10:13:23 PM
People got too used to these "closed beta = early access / demo" shenanigans that so many publishers do recently. In these terms, it's more of a pre-alpha :P.

RazoR
December 26 2013, 10:26:43 PM
Bought it for the tank and decals crew checking in.

metacannibal
December 26 2013, 11:11:47 PM
Wot is so dead, this shit is epic.

Lief Siddhe
December 27 2013, 12:48:30 AM
Wot is so dead, this shit is epic.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/987/fyeah.jpg

iLOL
December 27 2013, 11:02:50 AM
All I saw was a glorious future in a Tear Collector aka Flakpanzer.

QuackBot
December 27 2013, 12:00:10 PM
All I saw was a glorious future in a Tear Collector aka Flakpanzer.
All of my whopping 1 mil to random pew pew events, and it was glorious. The rule of thumb.

RazoR
December 28 2013, 09:41:28 AM
An actual gameplay leak.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaKMfs9OEhQ

iLOL
January 2 2014, 12:14:11 PM
NDA has been lifted (?) ... there is a ton of videos pop up on Jewtube.

Herstal
January 2 2014, 12:45:06 PM
Tbh though, if you've seen the official stream, you've seen everything the game has to offer (at this point in closed beta).

RazoR
January 2 2014, 03:13:37 PM
Gaijin are terrible community managers.

NDA is "partially" lifted, you can't criticize the current or discuss future content for example. Nor you can show bugs!!1 Which mean pre-recorded and edited only.

Isyel
January 2 2014, 03:16:46 PM
It's pretty amazingly bad yes.

It's always been to be fair but this is just fucking hilarious.

RazoR
January 2 2014, 03:59:22 PM
At least the game is really good :V

I'm hearing they added HB and FRB to tanx.

Kilabi
January 2 2014, 04:48:37 PM
So fast? Fuck, now I wish I bought a pack.

RazoR
January 2 2014, 04:55:36 PM
So fast? Fuck, now I wish I bought a pack.Meh, i bought T-34 and still haven't installed it. Waiting for OBT.

Lief Siddhe
January 24 2014, 11:39:46 PM
GIEF OPEN BETA FFS

been watching some tank casts on tube, this could turn out p. gud

RazoR
January 25 2014, 01:24:47 AM
GIEF OPEN BETA FFS

been watching some tank casts on tube, this could turn out p. gudNeeds much more content, debugging and air/ground polish for OBT. End of august looks like a good date.

That said i can't be arsed to check how CBT's going because :schedule:.

Ophichius
January 25 2014, 03:46:26 AM
Dear Gaijin: please hold off on the open beta until I can grind out my Hs. 129 B-3 and that wonderful 7.5cm Pak 40

-O

Torashuu
January 25 2014, 08:26:52 AM
Its terrible. Better off with a fast fight/bomber with some 100kg+ bombs. Its not the gun that is the problem but the horrendous plane its on. So underpowered it is hard to turn arround within a reasonable time. And its made of fuel and tinder. I think I have been set on fire by aa fire as much as players. I dont mean the big bursty flak but the crappy mg fire.

RazoR
January 25 2014, 09:22:33 AM
Lies, it has been very sturdy for me. But that fucking gun just pulls it down - you have to be sure you can both hit the target and then pull up in time.

Meanwhile the Vickers Tempest is an absolute blast to fly and if it had HEFI it would be just illegal.


Also there is a reason Pe-2 was such a success along with Il-2 (still doesn't have PTABs though).

teds :D
January 25 2014, 10:58:28 AM
is that 47mm pest acually useful? in hb i cant see it aside from bomber hunting.

also every hswhatever thing ive seen just explodes when shot at. not fire or instant wingliss etc, just an explosion

Torashuu
January 25 2014, 07:41:29 PM
The real question is going to be, T-54 or Panther II T-54? Ah, who am I kidding.

metacannibal
February 8 2014, 05:49:15 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/116091295@N05/sets/72157640679875084/

Isyel
February 8 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Oh man some of that stuff...

as always wonderful models by gaijin

Lief Siddhe
February 8 2014, 06:02:38 PM
awww yeah


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-TQBguLTik

RazoR
February 9 2014, 10:19:40 PM
>IS-3
>one regiment was deployed against the Japanese in Manchuria
>7.0 battle rating

Varcaus
February 9 2014, 10:49:32 PM
awww yeah


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-TQBguLTik

RIP tanks

Lief Siddhe
February 11 2014, 12:30:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3z2Udjc6KA

I wish arcade mode didnt have the penassist cross like in historicals

Isyel
February 11 2014, 01:44:48 AM
That cross is the worst thing in the game easily. At least it shouldnt work through ANY foliage or cover.

Torashuu
February 11 2014, 07:20:57 AM
HB doesn't have it so hold your horses.

Isyel
February 11 2014, 07:26:00 AM
HB doesn't have it so hold your horses.

I know. I meant i hate it in AB too.

RazoR
February 11 2014, 04:03:58 PM
Fired it up, no BT-7. DISAPPOINTED.

Scope keeps bouncing on SU-100. Have put 7 rounds into JPanther at 650 meters, no effect. I, however, got racked with the second hit.

Ireland is an arcade map and also shit. WTB Kuban.

balistic void
February 11 2014, 08:22:47 PM
Hahah there is an Ireland map?


Cliffed coast is a quiet rural region by the sea. Walls of an ancient castle rise above the gorgeous rolling lowlands. Small villages are scattered about beneath tall cliffs. The map was inspired by the picturesque views of the green meadows and hills of Ireland.

Well known as the location of intense naval and ground combat. A harsh forbidding land, as illustrated in this documentary:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVusRRDnew

teds :D
February 11 2014, 11:49:54 PM
we don't really do tanks... tractors however...

Ophichius
February 12 2014, 12:08:44 AM
we don't really do tanks... tractors however...

Tractors are just tanks that haven't ripened yet. Plant 'em in a peat bog and leave them for a few decades and you should have a good crop of StuG IIIs and Pzkpfw IVs to harvest.

-O

Lief Siddhe
February 12 2014, 02:35:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc-pEfYj8SM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIYN_Ll-Z40


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MidrYsqwHws


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2tyycJnmJw

my panties are wet

Lief Siddhe
February 12 2014, 10:02:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfu20caAuJA

Lief Siddhe
February 13 2014, 02:08:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdI2lXPlhYk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiTwde2NU5M

Baarhyn
February 13 2014, 04:02:57 AM
is there any way to get in closed beta at this stage?

I would probably sell a kidney

Varcaus
February 13 2014, 04:06:37 AM
is there any way to get in closed beta at this stage?

I would probably sell a kidney

50 buks

Lief Siddhe
February 13 2014, 04:13:56 AM
i'm thinking about doing it myself too. Whacha get for the 50 bucks? Some tank or something or just access?

RazoR
February 13 2014, 04:26:00 AM
Access and eagles now, premtank and two decals later.

Baarhyn
February 13 2014, 07:25:31 PM
I checked there website and couldnt find a way.

Would anyone have a link so I can try to stop myself until I cave in?

Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

Varcaus
February 13 2014, 07:31:02 PM
I checked there website and couldnt find a way.

Would anyone have a link so I can try to stop myself until I cave in?

Sent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkJust visit the store page?

Baarhyn
February 13 2014, 07:43:30 PM
I checked there website and couldnt find a way.

Would anyone have a link so I can try to stop myself until I cave in?

Sent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkJust visit the store page?

Oh really. Didn't think of that lol...

Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

Varcaus
February 13 2014, 08:12:34 PM
I checked there website and couldnt find a way.

Would anyone have a link so I can try to stop myself until I cave in?

Sent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkJust visit the store page?

Oh really. Didn't think of that lol...

Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalkhttp://warthunder.com/en/store/

So hard
Much Search
Wow

Baarhyn
February 13 2014, 11:01:14 PM
I checked there website and couldnt find a way.

Would anyone have a link so I can try to stop myself until I cave in?

Sent from my SGH-I337M using TapatalkJust visit the store page?

Oh really. Didn't think of that lol...

Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalkhttp://warthunder.com/en/store/

So hard
Much Search
Wow

I honestly googled it and ran around for a good 30minutes.

My google-fu seriously failed there lol.

Isyel
February 13 2014, 11:09:54 PM
worse than the worst of the worst...

Baarhyn
February 13 2014, 11:32:51 PM
worse than the worst of the worst...

I normally find obscure shit i've seen years ago on random websites in no time. Might have been a way to save me from myself.

helgur
February 14 2014, 03:48:14 AM
Jagdpanther, sogood. The gun is amazing while you have the speed to wiz around to get you out (and in) of sticky situations. Find a good spot and blap people with no effort

Also, to anyone thinking about signing up for the closed beta the times you can log in and play is restricted:


Tuesday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Wednesday 02:30 ACST) (Wednesday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Wednesday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Tuesday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Tuesday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Wednesday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Wednesday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Thursday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Friday 02:30 ACST) (Friday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Friday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Thursday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Thursday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Friday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Friday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Saturday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Sunday 02:30 ACST) (Sunday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Sunday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
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Varcaus
February 14 2014, 03:58:22 AM
Jagdpanther, sogood. The gun is amazing while you have the speed to wiz around to get you out (and in) of sticky situations. Find a good spot and blap people with no effort

Also, to anyone thinking about signing up for the closed beta the times you can log in and play is restricted:


Tuesday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Wednesday 02:30 ACST) (Wednesday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Wednesday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Tuesday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Tuesday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Wednesday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Wednesday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Thursday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Friday 02:30 ACST) (Friday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Friday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Thursday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Thursday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Friday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Friday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Saturday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Sunday 02:30 ACST) (Sunday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Sunday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Saturday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Saturday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST)((Sunday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Sunday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Well fuck that then

Baarhyn
February 14 2014, 03:59:29 AM
Jagdpanther, sogood. The gun is amazing while you have the speed to wiz around to get you out (and in) of sticky situations. Find a good spot and blap people with no effort

Also, to anyone thinking about signing up for the closed beta the times you can log in and play is restricted:


Tuesday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Wednesday 02:30 ACST) (Wednesday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Wednesday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Tuesday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Tuesday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Wednesday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Wednesday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Thursday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Friday 02:30 ACST) (Friday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Friday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Thursday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Thursday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Friday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Friday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Saturday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Sunday 02:30 ACST) (Sunday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Sunday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Saturday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Saturday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST)((Sunday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Sunday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

good to know, i've held myself together tonight and didn't throw the wallet at them, with this information in mind I think i'll hold up for open beta or something.

As far as I can see on the store page it's 15$ worth of eagles + a random tier 2 (approximation here) tank + access to closed beta. I think i'll be better served by waiting and buying 50$ worth of eagles later on.

I already have 3.8k eagles left from when I was raging around in a jet so yay I suppose.

helgur
February 14 2014, 05:19:17 AM
Yeah, it was a bit of a disappointment as Gaijin didn't/don't actually communicate those restrictions before you buy into the closed beta. That being said, it's not a biggie for me as the variation of maps, tanks etc isn't complete either so playing it beyond those restrictions would get to repetitive and boring fast (which doesn't excuse them but, just mentioning it). I am really looking forward to the finished product, and it is shaping up good so far, and the investment did net me extra eagles and a premium tank which will come in handy so I am OK with it.

And they will make it playable 24/h before releasing it as open beta too, IIRC.

helgur
February 14 2014, 05:46:19 AM
Also just frapsed a match playing the jgdpanther on Karelia:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANsH8KnM6I

Lief Siddhe
February 14 2014, 12:22:35 PM
Jagdpanther, sogood. The gun is amazing while you have the speed to wiz around to get you out (and in) of sticky situations. Find a good spot and blap people with no effort

Also, to anyone thinking about signing up for the closed beta the times you can log in and play is restricted:


Tuesday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Wednesday 02:30 ACST) (Wednesday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Wednesday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Tuesday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Tuesday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Wednesday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Wednesday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Thursday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Friday 02:30 ACST) (Friday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Friday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Thursday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Thursday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST) (Friday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Friday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Saturday 13:00 GMT - 17:00 GMT
(05:00 PST - 09:00 PST) (07:00 CST - 11:00 CST) (22:30 ACST - Sunday 02:30 ACST) (Sunday 01:00 NZST - 05:00 NZST)

Sunday 02:00 GMT - 06:00 GMT
(Saturday 18:00 PST - 22:00 PST) (Saturday 20:00 CST - 23:59 CST)((Sunday 11:30 ACST - 15:30 ACST) (Sunday 14:00 NZST - 18:00 NZST)

Well fuck that then

metacannibal
February 15 2014, 01:03:07 PM
holy fuck this new tanks are epic

Lief Siddhe
February 15 2014, 02:09:37 PM
wot is deadedying lolol

RazoR
February 15 2014, 04:54:15 PM
wot is deadedying lololwot is long dead

RazoR
February 15 2014, 04:59:27 PM
New patch is awesome, still need realistic maps though.

Baarhyn
February 15 2014, 05:24:32 PM
New patch is awesome, still need realistic maps though.

quite jelly

Alistair
February 21 2014, 04:01:33 PM
Brits in yet?

RazoR
February 21 2014, 08:24:05 PM
Brits in yet?gonna have to place them one tier up :-DDDD

Spartan Dax
February 25 2014, 11:45:35 AM
Wow, those vids looks great!

cerui
February 26 2014, 12:06:36 PM
This is some fun shit although the first tank, predictably, isn't exactly awesomesauce. Did have a fucking awesome moment where a lagg decided to do a low pass strafing run straight at me. He ate some 20mm shells :D

metacannibal
February 27 2014, 06:20:47 PM
Did a bit of playing today, ZIS30 TD on russkie side is very powerful but only 20 rounds.
Planes, esp rocket planes, really rape tanks. Interesting observation:
Tank kills with planes count towards ground xp, so possibly also plane kills with flaktanks count towards plane xp. Someone please crosscheck.

Level bombers are hard to use vs ground forces but once you get the hang of it, you can be a real pita, scored 8 tank kills today with my russkie prem catalina.

Lief Siddhe
March 6 2014, 12:25:14 PM
dammit open beta already or i'll reinstall WoT and i really dont wanna

RazoR
March 6 2014, 01:40:05 PM
dammit open beta already or i'll reinstall WoT and i really dont wannaI fail to see the connection.

Lief Siddhe
March 6 2014, 01:55:19 PM
i need mah tankfix

RazoR
March 6 2014, 02:15:17 PM
i need mah tankfixArma 3 :razor:

Ophichius
March 6 2014, 03:29:23 PM
i need mah tankfixArma 3 :razor:

I can confirm, Arma 3 does have tanks.
Shitty, shitty tanks that everyone hates.
-O

metacannibal
March 8 2014, 11:13:37 AM
New Patch introduced higher tier planes and tanks up to Derp KV2 (3.3 MM), so things are shaping up towards open beta.

RazoR
March 8 2014, 11:19:25 AM
things are shaping up towards open beta

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000420641069/04c083d59a84fe16060cc913f6e04095.jpeg

Kilabi
March 12 2014, 04:06:30 PM
Simulator battles with limited 3rd person view and gunner view only are in apparently. Could not try it yet but looking forward to it.

Torashuu
March 15 2014, 02:41:16 PM
Just postin to confirm, yes, this shit is awesome. Won't be for all WoT players because :tohard:

Kilabi
March 20 2014, 08:54:15 PM
Last patch made this even more awesome imho.

Tier I and II are partially in. Balance is fine"ish". Usual "russian bias" crying because obviously the T-34 is really strong and you can get 3 in your lineup followed by a KV-1 and KV-2 as heavies while still having a SU-122 in reserve or a 6th crew.
While on the german side you can only counter with 1 PzIV with the long 7.5, Stug with long 7.5 and 2 PzIIIs with long 5cm.

Realistic battles let you respawn now but you have to pay in points for every tank respawning. Kill shit to earn more points. If you get killed early without making any points it could be you cant get back in. I only had it once that I could not spawn the tank I wanted and had to spawn in a smaller tank. So if you do some damage you are fine. I hope they raise the point cost on all tanks so this has more impact on gameplay.

Planes are awesome of course. Attack planes really have to make the bombs count because flying back to rearm takes so long the battle could be over before you are back.
I actually prefer the SU-2 to the IL-2 right now as I can drop 6 single bombs and get crosshairs while the IL-2 drops pairs and does not get the crosshair.

StuKa kind of shit except if you got for a huge blob with the 1000kg. Single bomb loadouts on all of them which is just a waste of a slot really.

Really enjoying this so far.

Constantinus
March 21 2014, 10:32:41 PM
New tank starter pack with two rather interesting tanks and at an adequate price.
http://warthunder.com/en/news/498-SdKfz-1401-and-T-26E---Starter-Pack-en

Baarhyn
March 21 2014, 10:46:57 PM
New tank starter pack with two rather interesting tanks and at an adequate price.
http://warthunder.com/en/news/498-SdKfz-1401-and-T-26E---Starter-Pack-en

Lol wtf are those things :-P

RazoR
March 21 2014, 11:24:28 PM
>T-26 and some other shitbox
>interesting
passsss

Constantinus
March 21 2014, 11:56:54 PM
I assume that the retarded xp penalty for leveling stuff above your tier is also applied in Tanks?

RazoR
March 21 2014, 11:59:57 PM
I assume that the retarded xp penalty for leveling stuff two tiers above yours is also applied in Tanks?fyp and yes

QuackBot
March 22 2014, 12:00:13 AM
New Patch introduced higher tier planes and tanks up to Derp KV2 (3.3 MM), so things are shaping up towards open beta.
There's a few unique ships that i expected to be introduced in more numbers: the [url=https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/3.

Constantinus
March 22 2014, 12:22:19 AM
I assume that the retarded xp penalty for leveling stuff two tiers above yours is also applied in Tanks?fyp and yes

Pity, was realy tempted to buy the new pack.

RazoR
March 22 2014, 12:31:11 AM
I assume that the retarded xp penalty for leveling stuff two tiers above yours is also applied in Tanks?fyp and yes

Pity, was realy tempted to buy the new pack.

Premium planes don't get the penalty fyi. And i assume so don't the tanks.

Still they are 1st tier so their RP gain should be pretty low and only useful for getting a solid 2/3rd era tank.

Constantinus
March 22 2014, 12:39:39 AM
I assume that the retarded xp penalty for leveling stuff two tiers above yours is also applied in Tanks?fyp and yes

Pity, was realy tempted to buy the new pack.

Premium planes don't get the penalty fyi. And i assume so don't the tanks.

Still they are 1st tier so their RP gain should be pretty low and only useful for getting a solid 2/3rd era tank.

I'm ok with a lowish rp gain as long as it isn't further reduced by the penalty. This way at least some apperance of progression remains.
As someone who has yet to play the open beta, how is the balance atm? Sure, there is the constant "russian bias" whining on the open boards
but i consider you guys to be a somewhat more useful source of information :D

RazoR
March 22 2014, 12:41:50 AM
I haven't played it since january but apparently germans don't have shit on russians until Tiger. Except StuG of course.

Isyel
March 22 2014, 01:14:04 AM
I haven't played it since january but apparently germans don't have shit on russians until Tiger. Except StuG of course.

its mostly the fact russians have a lot of different versions of the same good tanks when germans don't afaik

also the penalty does apply to premiums

RazoR
March 22 2014, 01:18:42 AM
lol arcade

Isyel
March 22 2014, 01:21:45 AM
pssst razor

besides respawns for points being in historicals for tanks now

still doesnt change the fact you can go down the line with just good tanks for russians unlike for germans atm, which was the point

RazoR
March 22 2014, 01:35:15 AM
but russian guns have shit accuracy and rof D:

Isyel
March 22 2014, 01:38:21 AM
keep in mind i am pretty sure the whiners are full of shit, as they are for planes and probably germans are perfectly fine

just explaining what's going on :P

RazoR
March 22 2014, 01:42:44 AM
And i'm just shitposting. Not playing until OBT or at least a 10x10 map.

Isyel
March 22 2014, 01:46:50 AM
yeah i just read up a bit about it now and then is all, im sure it will be fine

Lief Siddhe
March 22 2014, 02:41:19 AM
im sure it will be fine

famous last words.jpg

Isyel
March 22 2014, 02:49:34 AM
well seeing as planes are, barring silly upper tier 4 matchmaking?

Kilabi
March 22 2014, 07:50:21 AM
Balance is fine. T-34 if a formidable tank and because it does not suffer from RL-shortcoming like missing radio it is an amazing tank in game.

Problem as said before is the availability of the good stuff for the russians and a rather empty tech-tree for germans but nothing you can´t work around. KV-1 and KV-2 are a bit out of place in realistic mode but than they are not allowed to respawn either. I have been one-shoted in pretty much every tank by now so nothing is unbeatable.

Hel OWeen
March 22 2014, 01:53:54 PM
I haven't played it since january but apparently germans don't have shit on russians until Tiger. Except StuG of course.

Seems pretty realistic, considering the fact that it took the Reichswehr until March '42 before the Pz IV G with a 7.5 cm gun was rolled out. Before that, German tanks had pretty much no chance to pen the T-34 frontal. That was the time when the 8.8 AA ("AchtAcht") became the best AT around and set precedence for the 8.8 gun usage in the later Pz VI (Tiger).

RazoR
March 22 2014, 03:00:48 PM
I haven't played it since january but apparently germans don't have shit on russians until Tiger. Except StuG of course.

Seems pretty realistic, considering the fact that it took the Reichswehr until March '42 before the Pz IV G with a 7.5 cm gun was rolled out. Before that, German tanks had pretty much no chance to pen the T-34 frontal. That was the time when the 8.8 AA ("AchtAcht") became the best AT around and set precedence for the 8.8 gun usage in the later Pz VI (Tiger).

I am pretty sure AA stands for anti-air because acht acht is eight eight.

Kilabi
March 22 2014, 03:26:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Am4boAF.jpg (http://imgur.com/Am4boAF)
http://i.imgur.com/D9c4Xhv.jpg (http://imgur.com/D9c4Xhv)
http://i.imgur.com/5BCvO71.jpg (http://imgur.com/5BCvO71)

New map: Kursk

I hope they keep making more of those maps. New rule in realistic. Only 1 tank to start with but multiple respawns depending on type. Heavies 1, Med 2, light 3.

I started sniping on like 1300-1400m with HEAT and got 1 mobility and a full kill on T-34s. I tried moving to the right flank of the German push when I got strafed by a IL-2 twice. First strafe he missed me with his rockets and second strafe was guns only so I only took some track damage. On top of the hill a T-34 was waiting already and got an easy kill on my by ammorack. Think he got killed moments later by another PzIV catching him in the flank.

Amazing map.

Arty and NPC tanks give you the feeling of participating in a really huge battle. Much better than those small maps they had before. Mixed with the planes just amazing.

metacannibal
March 22 2014, 03:47:38 PM
Kursk realistic in a Su122 is right impossbile, you have to aim so high, impossible to do over any distance.

That said, that map is so wow awesome.

Lief Siddhe
March 22 2014, 03:48:36 PM
It would actually be an interesting mechanic for (russian) T34 models that didnt have a radio to not be able to mark vehicles for others nor see enemies highlighted by other allies, as a way of offsetting their advantages (superior armor) that are represented in the game.

RazoR
March 22 2014, 04:14:03 PM
Would be much better if you couldn't immediately tell a bot from a player.
It would actually be an interesting mechanic for (russian) T34 models that didnt have a radio to not be able to mark vehicles for others nor see enemies highlighted by other allies, as a way of offsetting their advantages (superior armor) that are represented in the game.Yeah but not every T-34 didn't have a radio set so how do you balance that?

teds :D
March 22 2014, 04:19:07 PM
balancing by things like that is a little sketchy - why shouldn't we then balance by 262s flaming out with rapid throttle changes, or 163s randomly exploding for example.

historical accuracy is all good etc, but lets not go too far with it

Kilabi
March 22 2014, 04:36:30 PM
I would just remove arty from the early T-34s. It is not that strong anyway and would at least shut up some people.

Another way to go about it if they actually come out too strong would be limiting ammo count. Force them to pick up 1/3 HE and 1/3 shrapnel. Something along those lines.

RazoR
March 22 2014, 04:39:15 PM
+1 to arty removal

Also even late in the war T-34s had around 10% APCR and i suspect germans were not rolling around with HVAP only too.

Kilabi
March 22 2014, 04:54:20 PM
Early T-34s don´t have any APCR anyway iirc. Only a really good AP, HE, shrapnel and a slightly upgraded AP.


Rolled the last round on Kursk before the server went down with the T34-57. Sniper god tbh. Still good penetration with the stock ammo on 1000m+. High muzzle-velocity really helps with ranging in, HE filler gives good damage. Actually fired all my 77 shots and had to ram a StuG on our last push into the German spawn. Threw his track and some else killed him. :D

Hope they add more big maps fast as this is really nice gameplay with the AIs mixed in. AI arty shooting directly for enemy players surprised me a bit with their efficiency btw. But looks cool when someone gets shelled by 3 guns every 5sec.

Baarhyn
March 22 2014, 05:17:54 PM
I think we're gonna end up with one exceptional game here.

Hel OWeen
March 23 2014, 12:20:59 PM
I am pretty sure AA stands for anti-air because acht acht is eight eight.

You're right, but I didn't imply anything else. "AchtAcht" is the nickname derived from its calibre. I should've place the ellipsis after the caliber, perhaps.

What I wanted to point out by the two bold chars in AA and AT is the fact that out of sheer despair an anti-aircraft gun became the most effective anti-tank gun.

Torashuu
March 23 2014, 02:11:40 PM
Kurks map is glorious! (..victory for soviet master race)

RazoR
March 23 2014, 02:13:33 PM
>implying noone else made AT guns out of AAA once actual heavy tanks hit the field

Torashuu
March 23 2014, 02:37:49 PM
Who cares about who developed what. Play game, shoot nazis/commis, much bacon.

Ophichius
March 23 2014, 11:46:35 PM
I am pretty sure AA stands for anti-air because acht acht is eight eight.

You're right, but I didn't imply anything else. "AchtAcht" is the nickname derived from its calibre. I should've place the ellipsis after the caliber, perhaps.

What I wanted to point out by the two bold chars in AA and AT is the fact that out of sheer despair an anti-aircraft gun became the most effective anti-tank gun.

What? You've got your history all wrong. 8.8cm guns were already known as excellent anti-tank guns as early as the Spanish Civil War, they were used in the AT and anti-fortification role then. The use of 88s in direct-fire roles in WWII was a doctrinal choice by Germany, pretty much all of their AA mounts were designed to depress far enough to strike ground targets, and were frequently used in direct fire roles as light anti-armor and anti-infantry weapons. The Flak 37 and 38 in particular were used this way quite often.

The Wehrmacht also had a penchant for interoperability and multi-role, multi-purpose guns. The ability to field a single caliber for both AAA and AT work, and push AAA guns into the role of AT as well was seen as an efficient and effective measure. The first use of 8.8s as direct-fire weapons may have been a field expedient choice, but by the time WWII rolled around, it was doctrine due to proven effectiveness.

-O

Hel OWeen
March 24 2014, 04:14:52 PM
What? You've got your history all wrong. 8.8cm guns were already known as excellent anti-tank guns as early as the Spanish Civil War, they were used in the AT and anti-fortification role then. The use of 88s in direct-fire roles in WWII was a doctrinal choice by Germany, pretty much all of their AA mounts were designed to depress far enough to strike ground targets, and were frequently used in direct fire roles as light anti-armor and anti-infantry weapons. The Flak 37 and 38 in particular were used this way quite often.

The Wehrmacht also had a penchant for interoperability and multi-role, multi-purpose guns. The ability to field a single caliber for both AAA and AT work, and push AAA guns into the role of AT as well was seen as an efficient and effective measure. The first use of 8.8s as direct-fire weapons may have been a field expedient choice, but by the time WWII rolled around, it was doctrine due to proven effectiveness.


"All wrong" is quite a stretch.



Einsatz im Spanischen Bürgerkrieg und bei der deutschen Wehrmacht

Erstmals eingesetzt wurde die Waffe im Spanischen Bürgerkrieg. Dort wurde sie auch erstmals in der Rolle einer Panzerabwehrkanone getestet, und es wurden hier bereits die Vor- und Nachteile der 8,8-cm-Flak in der Rolle als Panzerabwehrwaffe sichtbar.

Als zu Beginn des Krieges gegen die Sowjetunion die Standard-Panzerabwehrkanone PaK 36 und die Geschütze der meisten Panzer gegen die sowjetischen Panzer T-34 und KW-1 nur noch auf extrem geringe Distanz erfolgreich waren, war die 8,8-cm-FlaK oft die einzige verfügbare Waffe, die gegnerische Panzer aus größerer Entfernung – bis zu 2000 m – zerstören konnte. Auch beim Afrikafeldzug kam sie als panzerbrechende Waffe zum Einsatz und konnte dort die alliierten Panzer bereits aus einer Distanz bekämpfen, die außerhalb der Reichweite von deren Bordwaffen lag. Dabei konnte sie ihren Vorteil vor allem in offenem Gelände ausspielen.



Frühe Ausführungen gingen mit der Legion Condor nach Spanien, wo ihre potentielle Eignung als Panzerabwehrgeschütz erkannt wurde. Sie wurden mit passenden Visiereinrichtungen ausgestattet, und panzerbrechende Granaten dafür wurden geschaffen. In den polnischen und französischen Feldzügen wurde das 88 mm Geschütz selten, wenn überhaupt, als Pak eingesetzt, zum Teil weil man die damaligen Panzerkampfwagen erfolgreich bekämpfen konnte, ohne auf die Acht-Acht zurückgreifen zu müssen, und zum Teil weil es ein Geschütz war, das sich am besten für die Verteidigung eignete. Erst später, während der Kämpfe in Afrika gegen die schwer gepanzerten Matilda-Panzer, wurde die Acht-Acht als Panzerknacker berühmt.

In Anbetracht dieses Erfolges wurde Krupp beauftragt, statt einer über* und umgearbeiteten Flak eine echte Panzerabwehrkanone zu bauen. Und Krupp nahm einen grandiosen Plan für eine integrierte Familie von 88 mm Flugabwehr-, Panzerabwehr-, U-Boot* und Kampfwagen-kanonen in Angriff, die alle die gleiche Munition verschießen und einheitliche Teile haben sollten. Aber langsam begann sich der Schwerpunkt von diesem idealen System weg zu bewegen und konzentrierte sich auf die Kampfwagen- und Panzerabwehrwaffen, vor allem wegen der massenhaft auftretenden sowjetischen Panzer vom Typ T-34 und KW-1.


I'm well aware that Flak (AA) has always been used to support ground forces. It's still a doctrin of the Bundeswehr (served my draft in an AA company, just so you know ...), where we were supposed "to support ground combat, if the situation in our own main (air) combat zone permits".

Isyel
March 26 2014, 08:37:24 AM
Been playing wot a bit lately since its about the only thing that work OK over here as WTs American server is shit. I got to play ground forces yesterday tho and I can't bring myself to log into wot at all anymore.

So good... So good.

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Kilabi
March 26 2014, 02:58:56 PM
Server is up right now. Extra session by the looks of it.

I am starting to like the BF-110 C4. While still not an amazing plane it is the right mix for realistic battles. Single 500kg to clear a capzone or kill a KV right when you reach the fight, a few ACs for a chance to light someone of fire with an engine hit. Air to Air its a bit lacking of course but most people here are also in attackers/bombers so the difference is not too harsh at times.

Still prefer the SU-2 because of the loadout tho.

Isyel
March 28 2014, 05:50:53 AM
been playing the germans exclusively pretty much and can confirm people are full of shit, they work just fine

got the first t2 pzIII now with the long 50mm and been raping people so easily :3

metacannibal
March 28 2014, 07:56:25 AM
Update:

They added German Heavies and Russian Heavies up to Tiger1/IS1 and mediums up to T34-85 and Panther and random ISU JPZ4 types. Epic.

Isyel
March 28 2014, 08:48:29 AM
1/5 through the tiger research

metacannibal
March 28 2014, 09:50:53 AM
TD are so shit, I think i will take heavy or even mediums in release, it is crazy how shit even good TD's are.
Mobility plays such a huge role in this game, its amazing.

Torashuu
March 28 2014, 10:39:37 AM
Medium tanks ftw. :)

Kilabi
March 28 2014, 02:33:36 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5tbPYRa.jpg

Torashuu
March 28 2014, 03:04:20 PM
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kilabi again."

RazoR
March 28 2014, 03:34:07 PM
TD are so shit, I think i will take heavy or even mediums in release, it is crazy how shit even good TD's are.
Mobility plays such a huge role in this game, its amazing.More like you can't tell where the enemy is going to be for shit so you need a turret.

metacannibal
March 28 2014, 04:24:01 PM
TD are so shit, I think i will take heavy or even mediums in release, it is crazy how shit even good TD's are.
Mobility plays such a huge role in this game, its amazing.More like you can't tell where the enemy is going to be for shit so you need a turret.

Seems to be an issue with all tank designs since 1944, these morons!

RazoR
March 28 2014, 04:38:58 PM
TD are so shit, I think i will take heavy or even mediums in release, it is crazy how shit even good TD's are.
Mobility plays such a huge role in this game, its amazing.More like you can't tell where the enemy is going to be for shit so you need a turret.

Seems to be an issue with all tank designs since 1944, these morons!

u wot m8

http://dokwar.ru/_pu/6/41071268.jpg

helgur
March 29 2014, 10:36:04 AM
TD are so shit, I think i will take heavy or even mediums in release, it is crazy how shit even good TD's are.
Mobility plays such a huge role in this game, its amazing.More like you can't tell where the enemy is going to be for shit so you need a turret.

Seems to be an issue with all tank designs since 1944, these morons!

u wot m8

http://dokwar.ru/_pu/6/41071268.jpg

The S Tank is pure awesomesauce because it has so many strange but wonderful features that sets it apart from a traditional tank/tank destroyer, and although it has never been in a real battle I think it would do pretty well for the role it was intended for

Torashuu
March 30 2014, 03:22:24 PM
German tanks too stronk, nerf!!11
http://i.imgur.com/ion4VIi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Cbet3OF.jpg
(fyi no AAA kills in there)

Kursk map best map
http://i.imgur.com/Xc154Rt.jpg

dzajic
March 30 2014, 03:36:33 PM
When does the open beta start? I need Tanks that aren't Tanks so I can avoid losing my mind because of Tanks.

Constantinus
March 30 2014, 05:34:28 PM
When does the open beta start? I need Tanks that aren't Tanks so I can avoid losing my mind because of Tanks.

I think it still takes a few weeks or more. Currently the techtree only reaches to the beginnings of t3 and there still needs to be some aditional optimisation (my fps in the tanks beta dropped alot compared to "current" warthunder). If you want to get into the open beta then you can either get lucky or you buy the cheapest of the tankpacks (20 bucks or less if you are outside the Eurozone).

sahtila
March 31 2014, 12:47:50 PM
You can buy 20e tank package to get instant access to closed beta. Servers are up only some hours/day though.
Any idea if its possible to make camera more responsive? Already did set it to 100% speed but it still feels laggy even at 60fps.

Isyel
March 31 2014, 02:05:52 PM
What do you mean? Just looking around with the free view key pressed seems fine

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Hoggbert
March 31 2014, 03:50:59 PM
You can buy 20e tank package to get instant access to closed beta. Servers are up only some hours/day though.
Any idea if its possible to make camera more responsive? Already did set it to 100% speed but it still feels laggy even at 60fps.

you dont by any chance have a trackir or similar on your pc?

Kilabi
March 31 2014, 03:58:44 PM
Just posted this to the CBT forum. Very important factor to make tanks playable imho.


So we have loads of complaints about balance and discussions about the gamemodes already but what I am missing is a discussion of all the different spawn-options I saw up till now.


Fast recap:



All crews, multiple spawns per vehicle, no spawn-points

All your crews can be chosen freely, smaller vehicles get multiple respawns,

You are not limited in anyway to respawn inside those parameter.



All crews, multiple spawns per vehicle, spawn-points

Similar to above but every vehicle you spawn requires you to spend some points.

You start with enough points to spawn a heavy and a light or two mediums for example.

You earn more points by damaging/capping/killing on the field.



Only 1 crew, multiple spawns per vehicle, no spawn-points

Kinda like realistic planes right now except you get to respawn in a medium or light tank if chosen. No need to earn points first.



Only 1 crew, no respawns at all (or locked after 2min).

Like realistic mode in planes right now.





That are the different options I saw so far. If anyone knows another one please tell.



Personally I prefer the spawnpoint option. It forces you to play kind of tactical as you cant just suicide because you will run out of points. On the other hand you can swap vehicles ,or even into a plane, to react to the situation on the field. Also gives the option to "tactically" spawn your heavier tanks. For example to start off with a III-M to rush a cap-point and scout for your team and come in with a Tiger later on to mop up an already weakened foe to secure the game.



Single crew setups are too limiting I think. Really dont like being locked in a single tank during a game. Especially as this forces me more or less to always start heavy. There is a reason the other tanks get to respawn multiple times. Kinda the thing that happens in planes if you see totally homogeneous setups on both teams as some plane/tanks will always be the best in a tier/bracket.



Free respawn is prolly best for arcade games to speed them up some more, multiple respawns allow for aggressive moves without having to fear dropping the game. Attacks can happen as map-control is more important than preserving tanks.



Personally I would go for those spawn-options:



Arcade: Free spawns, all crews, multiple spawns for smaller tanks (Heavy 1, Med 2, light 3, plane 1)

Realistic: Spawn points, all crews, multiple spawns for smaller tanks, perhaps a bit harsher rules on spawnpoint generation than we had up till now

Simulator: Single crew, multiple spawns to balance the heavier tanks so the teams become more diverse.

QuackBot
March 31 2014, 04:00:13 PM
you dont by any chance have a trackir or similar on your pc?
Or you have too many tabs open. My life sucks. #Firstworldproblems.

Isyel
March 31 2014, 04:10:21 PM
Just posted this to the CBT forum. Very important factor to make tanks playable imho.


So we have loads of complaints about balance and discussions about the gamemodes already but what I am missing is a discussion of all the different spawn-options I saw up till now.


Fast recap:



All crews, multiple spawns per vehicle, no spawn-points

All your crews can be chosen freely, smaller vehicles get multiple respawns,

You are not limited in anyway to respawn inside those parameter.



All crews, multiple spawns per vehicle, spawn-points

Similar to above but every vehicle you spawn requires you to spend some points.

You start with enough points to spawn a heavy and a light or two mediums for example.

You earn more points by damaging/capping/killing on the field.



Only 1 crew, multiple spawns per vehicle, no spawn-points

Kinda like realistic planes right now except you get to respawn in a medium or light tank if chosen. No need to earn points first.



Only 1 crew, no respawns at all (or locked after 2min).

Like realistic mode in planes right now.





That are the different options I saw so far. If anyone knows another one please tell.



Personally I prefer the spawnpoint option. It forces you to play kind of tactical as you cant just suicide because you will run out of points. On the other hand you can swap vehicles ,or even into a plane, to react to the situation on the field. Also gives the option to "tactically" spawn your heavier tanks. For example to start off with a III-M to rush a cap-point and scout for your team and come in with a Tiger later on to mop up an already weakened foe to secure the game.



Single crew setups are too limiting I think. Really dont like being locked in a single tank during a game. Especially as this forces me more or less to always start heavy. There is a reason the other tanks get to respawn multiple times. Kinda the thing that happens in planes if you see totally homogeneous setups on both teams as some plane/tanks will always be the best in a tier/bracket.



Free respawn is prolly best for arcade games to speed them up some more, multiple respawns allow for aggressive moves without having to fear dropping the game. Attacks can happen as map-control is more important than preserving tanks.



Personally I would go for those spawn-options:



Arcade: Free spawns, all crews, multiple spawns for smaller tanks (Heavy 1, Med 2, light 3, plane 1)

Realistic: Spawn points, all crews, multiple spawns for smaller tanks, perhaps a bit harsher rules on spawnpoint generation than we had up till now

Simulator: Single crew, multiple spawns to balance the heavier tanks so the teams become more diverse.

Agreed 100% i think that would be best. Supporting on forum too. :P

Baarhyn
March 31 2014, 04:20:08 PM
you dont by any chance have a trackir or similar on your pc?
Or you have too many tabs open. My life sucks. #Firstworldproblems.

You might just have too many tabs open really, who knows...

Quacker is getting temperamental on us.

Torashuu
April 1 2014, 02:59:56 PM
can't really complain about rusrus bias anymore, as one-sided as battles were, it seems the 85mm lost some lethality.

Edit: 20 hits, 2 kills. Much power, such awesome.

Kilabi
April 1 2014, 05:36:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/txzZAP4.jpg

Current balance in a nutshell. I don´t think it is too bad actually but current respawn-rules are boring as fuck and i cba to play today.

Bombing shit in arcade with a bomber on maps with no proper AA or enemy fighter is fun btw. Think I got 6 Tigers in that game. Which means half the enemy team. :P

RazoR
April 5 2014, 12:52:08 PM
http://i3.minus.com/imz8vx0XHJ7SF.jpg
http://i1.minus.com/ibc2te6PvcdGRl.jpg
http://i3.minus.com/iLyRXQzR9BkhB.jpg

[Razor] SHIT IS OFFICIAL
[Razor] INBEFORE KUBELWAGEN CAPTURE VEHICLES
[Razor] BEST GAME EVER

dzajic
April 5 2014, 01:23:13 PM
Finally managed to catch the server online. So much tank. Thanks for invite again Sarmatiko.

This shit looks epic.

Isyel
April 5 2014, 01:36:30 PM
Join our glorious team of fail on ts m8

dzajic
April 5 2014, 01:51:38 PM
Details? Sorry dont have time to dig trough thread. :)

Isyel
April 5 2014, 02:10:15 PM
ts.failheap-challenge.com

pass is our glorious bot overlord

dzajic
April 6 2014, 02:45:12 PM
Am I crazy or is T-50 extremely stronk?

Kilabi
April 6 2014, 03:33:16 PM
Most of the new stuff has a broken DM when implemented. I heard the gun is good on the T50 but expect the survivability to drop when they reword he damage-model.

dzajic
April 6 2014, 06:12:52 PM
I'm not driving it. I'm trying to unlock other tanks. Which is kinda problematic with unkillable monster T-50s. At least frontally. Don't think I managed to kill a single one in any of these two days.

Isyel
April 6 2014, 11:33:50 PM
Just drive tier two stuff so they're rare :P

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Kilabi
April 10 2014, 02:59:39 PM
I actually wanted to play today but they still have the shitty spawnrules going.

Fucking unlimited-mode for arcade with heavies camping all over the place and 1 card only for realistic. YaY
Fuck this, DotA time.

metacannibal
April 10 2014, 07:02:13 PM
Holy shit Panther, god of mediums.

Tordin Varglund
April 11 2014, 04:16:08 AM
Finally caved after like 6 months of meta telling me to get in and bought the 20 eurobux pack, played 3 hours straight and got to the Pz IVF2 before bedtime. Its addictive and good fun, but a lot of the maps seem terrible tbh. Its fine for now but i have a feeling i wont feel the same way in 2-4 weeks time.

Isyel
April 11 2014, 04:25:51 AM
How are they particularly terrible?

Also dont play arcade, the pen marker is bs.

Kilabi
April 11 2014, 02:00:27 PM
What breaks some maps for me is the spotting system. Jungle for example could be nice but with the ongoing spotting through bushes and trees every flanking manouver is just useless as you will be spotted the moment you come out.

Tordin Varglund
April 11 2014, 11:28:14 PM
Spotting system needs to go in ordinary realistic battles and the maps need to be bigger. Stalemates seem to happen frequently because as soon as you start moving some imaginary crewman will instantly spot you from over a KM away and you will be easy pickings for everyone with a reasonably functional brain.

Im told bigger maps have been in rotation and the spotting system changes frequently between patches so who knows, it just seems like a rather strange system to implement in a game that seems to aim for a completely different style than WoT.

Isyel
April 12 2014, 05:04:34 AM
yeah its been confirmed the spotting system is wip, you arent meant to be able to spot people straight through bushes

Kilabi
April 12 2014, 06:36:27 AM
Spotting system needs to go in ordinary realistic battles and the maps need to be bigger. Stalemates seem to happen frequently because as soon as you start moving some imaginary crewman will instantly spot you from over a KM away and you will be easy pickings for everyone with a reasonably functional brain.

Im told bigger maps have been in rotation and the spotting system changes frequently between patches so who knows, it just seems like a rather strange system to implement in a game that seems to aim for a completely different style than WoT.

As Isyel said spotting is heavily WiP and every dev says so.

For maps, yes they stated the maps that are in right now are like the basic arcade maps. Kursk for example had you drive for like 2-4min to even get enemies into LoS. There was some real tactical pushes on the sides and moving behind ridges and hills had some real benefits. Again devs said that is the map size and modus they want to add more of. It was basically a whole map full of AI tanks, guns, planes and vehicles duking it out and you were in the middle of it.

I just hope they change the spawn system soon. Can´t stand it right now.

QuackBot
April 12 2014, 08:00:17 AM
yeah its been confirmed the spotting system is wip, you arent meant to be able to spot people straight through bushes
Yeah you need a system which will control all of them :p.

Torashuu
April 12 2014, 03:01:31 PM
For those wondering about the screwed up AA gun DM. Its just AP overpenetration, 1 pure HE shell will wreck them all in one hit.

Isyel
April 12 2014, 10:42:12 PM
For those wondering about the screwed up AA gun DM. Its just AP overpenetration, 1 pure HE shell will wreck them all in one hit.

nah its not just that, they were thoroughly bugged, i shot HE at them too and did nothing

probably been fixed since tho

RazoR
April 13 2014, 01:46:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyksz0s890s

this is the most epic shit i've seen this week

Torashuu
April 13 2014, 03:08:39 PM
lol yup. Shot down P47, Hs 129 & He112 today in my T-34-85. :feltgoodman:

Kilabi
April 13 2014, 05:21:34 PM
I like the new Kuban map. More trees, AI tanks attacking, AI planes also if I am not mistaken. But there seems to be a difference on what CP-layout and mode you get.