FHC TeamFortress 2 'FRED

[EntroX]

so we can get propper bitch and moan.

server info:

IP: megalolz.zapto.org
Port: 27015

currently running on default crap, since i am not the biggest tf2 player tell me what i should add to it (maps, settings, etc)

[Skidrowpunk]

how many games are running off that one box haha.

Thanks though! will use it for sure.

[Sirrush]

Default port is 27015, I believe.

e: Yep, its 27015

I have no idea how plugins and whatnot are installed, so I can't help you there, but I'd like to see a rock the vote plugin, as well as this (http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1365058) and some other plugin to revert to vanilla, but can't find anything for that.

[EntroX]

i already had vanilla working yesterday, but it was kinda boring so i removed it. plugin is still there tho so it can be enabled no probs.

ideally i'd like to get a bunch of suggestions so i can set it up propperly

[Lorkin Desal]

Sourcemod is good for looking after it, as is HLSW.

[EntroX]

sourcemod is in~

thats how i got the vanilla thing running

[Devec]

So any time anyone is seriously playing this because I just jumped on half an hour ago and nobody was there.

Also from some reason the game muted my teamspeak, what's all that about?

[Mavolio]

problem with games like TF2 is its kind of shit unless you have a fair number played.

[Spaztick]

People still play tf2?

[Jon.J]

I'm currently awaiting players.

[Sirrush]

I think we need to make some sort of schedule so we can all play at once, rather than constantly joining an empty server.

[Lorkin Desal]

FHC TF2 rapture night - 20:00 Eve time tonight?

[Jon.J]

FHC TF2 rapture night - 20:00 Eve time tonight?

Remind me how that relates to UK time.

[kzig]

UK time = EVE time +1hr atm

[EntroX]

i am working on a lolstatus page for all our ~hosted services~ so we know who is online when :V

[Zumwalt]

Server is empty.

I like payload maps.

[Jon.J]

Just joined the server.

edit:
Oh wait, plus one as in eve time 8pm = uk time 9pm? :facepalm:

[Haffrage]

Just joined the server.

edit:
Oh wait, plus one as in eve time 8pm = uk time 9pm? :facepalm:
No, as in 8 pm eve time = 10 pm uk time

(yes)

[Mae west]

I am on the server and oh so lonely

[Jon.J]

We're actually playing, come join.

[Lorkin Desal]

lol I totally forgot about this. OMW, if any of you are still there.

[Lorkin Desal]

guess i missed it, go me.

[Jon.J]

Wasn't great to be honest, at most I think there were 4 of us. It kinda made it like CS, the respawn timers were so long you could end up wining while the other side was dead.

[Freia Lenneth]

Added to favorites. Maybe more pl_ maps and less ctf_.

[Jon.J]

I am the top player :monocledowns:

[kzig]

Online now - come and get your statues!

[kzig]

3 online, more please!

[ElweSingollo]

hmm I suck so bad at TF2 tempted to go online and give you all free comedy kills

server not responding :(.

[Haffrage]

kzig and myself are on atm, trying out a different equip myself

[kzig]

hmm I suck so bad at TF2 tempted to go online and give you all free comedy kills

server not responding :(.

Saw you connect a couple of times but you never quite seemed to get playing. Better luck next time. :P

[Jon.J]

Thanks to whoever gave me the Kunai. Can't seem to get the hang of it though.

[Lorkin Desal]

Am playing TF2 right now. If you want to join me i'm in the FHC steam group. Hit me up so that we can kickstart the FHC server.

[kzig]

Thanks to whoever gave me the Kunai. Can't seem to get the hang of it though.

Hint: works best with the Dead Ringer to counteract the massive initial HP penalty. Backstab a heavy and activate the DR for 1800 effective HP.

[Zumwalt]

So what's the biggest game you guys have been able to get together so far?

[kzig]

I think we managed 3 vs. 3 at one point.

[mrki]

Am I supposed to install Team Fortress 2 of TF2 Beta? Someone educate me on these shennanigans please.

[kzig]

The FHC server (and most others) are running standard TF2, not the beta (which is for testing balance changes on separate servers).

[EntroX]

i feel like playing tf2, anyone wants to join?

[kzig]

i feel like playing tf2, anyone wants to join?
Count me in. Btw, what's your steam ID? Would help to know in case you happen to join another server.

[EntroX]

http://steamcommunity.com/id/entrox/

[Haffrage]

i was raging lots last night, game is suddenly very stuttery all the goddamn time and airblast wasn't working the way it should

I'm pretty sure it's to do with replays, which saddens me deeply

especially since the replays I want the fucking most never get downloaded properly, that airblast arrow kill fucking come on

[EntroX]

i feel like playing again :V

[Haffrage]

playing more and raging less, interesting

obviously I'm just up against bad players

[ctrlchris]

Not playing tf2 beacuse im bitter.

[kzig]

For any FHC'ers out there who don't already own this game - it's free to play until the end of this week, to mark the release of the latest major update (http://www.teamfortress.com/uberupdate/day_01.html).

I'm particularly looking forward to the inevitable masses of Demoknights, who are getting an entire new set (http://www.teamfortress.com/uberupdate/index.html) of dedicated items. The new sniper rifle seems to be a sop to the CS:S crowd, who complained quite vocally about the previous one on the grounds that it 'encouraged medicrity'.

[Haffrage]

bad update (lol soldier)

[Sirrush]

Fucking terrible.

[Al Simmons]

Broken weapons are go. Maybe i'll play this game again to find out quite how shitty it's become.

[kzig]

Broken weapons are go. Maybe i'll play this game again to find out quite how shitty it's become.

Always best done just after a major expansion if you want to confirm your prejudices :lol:

[Haffrage]

http://www.teamfortress.com/uberupdate/ ... nator.html (http://www.teamfortress.com/uberupdate/thedetonator.html)

cumshot.gif

also sorry kzig, I want to say I hope that's just a troll but honestly I'm not sure I want to see a surge of engineers :?

[kzig]

but honestly I'm not sure I want to see a surge of engineers :?

What makes you think we'd see that?

[Sirrush]

Free to Play TF2, as if there aren't enough [strike:oxds47ez]noobs[/strike:oxds47ez] ten year olds yet. I should really stop playing this game.

Oh well, at least Meet The Medic was good.

[Haffrage]

it took valve letting tf2 go f2p to get pyro advanced mobility /o\

it seems hell has literally frozen over

[Arele]

Meet the Medic video, finally something worthy of being called :awesome:

[ctrlchris]

wasent playing prior to f2p, will not play post f2p.

[GetZonked]

thanks for letting us know!

[Polysynchronicity]

ARE YOU SURE THIS WILL WORK?

I HAVE NO IDEA

[Haffrage]

and the detonator isn't even half of what it was in the beta, oh lordy :lol:

[ctrlchris]

thanks for letting us know!
no worries.

[Boltorano]

Meet the Medic was awesome, worth the wait.

Why the hate for Engineers? I have over 200 hours on Engineer (as well as Spy), and don't regret that at all.

Now if only the 24/7 Hydro servers came back, then there would be something to cheer about. Oh sure, there's one really laggy one hosted out of Germany, but it's so terrible that you can camp the stairs in BLU base with a pyro and get 80 kills without dying and nobody even says a word.

[Omega Supreme]

Hydro was shit, get over it. Turbine was win though.

[Boltorano]

Hydro was shit, get over it. Turbine was win though.

I've never played Turbine, that's how horrible I am. :obama:

[Omega Supreme]

It's been so long I don't really remember the maps. I remember pl_frontier was fun for griefing as a sniper though.

[fffuuu]

can anyone say they saw the free2play coming?

in retrospect it seems obvious, what with the store and all, but it surprised me.

did they announce this ahead of time?

[Polysynchronicity]

new medigun is retardedly strong

[Sirrush]

How is the Uber vs. say 1 or 2 level three sentries?

[Doomed Predator]

So,awesome meet the medic video,a bunch of new weapons,a new map and free to play.

Got to love Valve :companioncube:

[Womble]

I'm just kinda pissed (u mad? Yes.) Bought the game way back and all i get is a hat.
New medic gear looks good especially the increased move speed for the healer to equal the healee. So many good scouts/pyros that deserves uber/kritz.

[Omega Supreme]

I'm just kinda pissed (u mad? Yes.) Bought the game way back and all i get is a hat.
New medic gear looks good especially the increased move speed for the healer to equal the healee. So many good scouts/pyros that deserves uber/kritz.


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[Haffrage]

I get so much fucking stuttering since the latest patch. Either my ISP is throttling the fuck out of TF2 and ONLY TF2, or they did something to the game that's raping my hardware. BRB, I guess it's time to play crysis. At max settings. Because I can do that, but I can't run TF2 at minimum settings.

:psyvalve:

[Spaztick]

I get so much fucking stuttering since the latest patch. Either my ISP is throttling the fuck out of TF2 and ONLY TF2, or they did something to the game that's raping my hardware. BRB, I guess it's time to play crysis. At max settings. Because I can do that, but I can't run TF2 at minimum settings.

:psyvalve:
A lot of new models use a retarded amount of polygons and haven't been optimized at all.

[Jurskjeld]

How to play this fucking game. WHERE to play this fucking game.

[Voulture]

Can anyone point me to some "tf2 for dummies" thing i could read before i download and install it? I was never really attracted by this game but since it's free and on FHC welp, can give it a try.

[teds]

get havy
run
i am bullet proof
respawn

[Polysynchronicity]

How is the Uber vs. say 1 or 2 level three sentries?

Doesn't work that great.

Normal medigun heal : 24/s
Quick Fix heal: +40% (33.6, probably 34/s)
UberCharge effect: 300% heal rate (100/s)

Level 3 sentry fires 8 14-18 damage shots per second for 128 DPS, plus rockets dealing 120-140 damage every 3 seconds. Quick Fix, even in uber mode, will not heal that much.

[Polysynchronicity]

Can anyone point me to some "tf2 for dummies" thing i could read before i download and install it? I was never really attracted by this game but since it's free and on FHC welp, can give it a try.

http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/534

In all honesty though, just find a unmodded server which isn't:

1. a 24/7 server (no map variety = boring and you will miss out on a lot)

2. has max players above 24 (I like 16 myself) as TF2 maps aren't designed for 32 players

Playing on the same server as a mate makes it more fun, ofc.

Everything else (finding a class/weapon you're good with, learning when/where to place sentries, deploy your ubercharge, hide for backstabs, etc) just comes with time and practice. Just have fun and don't fret, if you enjoy the game and play a lot eventually you'll learn how to be good at it.

[Jon.J]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/24/the-n ... -part-one/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/24/the-noobs-guide-to-team-fortress-2-part-one/)

[Al Simmons]

Played a couple hours tonight. Seems just like how it was 6 months ago tbh, just with different hats and stuff. The new weapons seem cool, hope I get a few of those in drops.

[Jon.J]

New personal best of 10 backstabs in one life. Feels pretty good man.

[Was done with dead ringer and "steal their life" knife - can't remember it's name.]

[Cerzi]

Jeez if people think TF2 is complex no wonder stuff like Brink and ET:QW failed.

I think if Tribes 2 was put in front of a modern [warfare olol;] gamer their brains would actually shut down to prevent permanent damage.

[Herrick]

I for one support our new Free 2 play overlords.

People don't spycheck and spys don't know that they can take damage while cloaked or in disguise.

Cue lots of accusations of hacking thrown around.

(also I wanna name the proof of purchase hat 'Pay to Win')

[Jon.J]

Also spies don't realise which classes make sense to disguise as, I've been killing lots of slow moving scouts lately.

[Herrick]

Lately I always disguise as enemy spys, there are so many shitty ones running around face stabbing people that no-one expects one that actually knows to aim for the back.

[Haffrage]

For some inexplicable reason the insufferable lag I posted about is really improving, and gameplay is considerably smoother. I've changed literally nothing, but some patches have gone out.

Quick fix is exactly as awesome as I remember it in the beta btw (less actually - it was nerfed - but it's still awesome), it's just the detonator that needs tweaking. Also the statue rocks.

[Polysynchronicity]

i got, via random drop:

- quick fix (within 30 seconds of logging in after update)
- tomislav (the same day)
- family business (same day, within an hour)
- mantreads (the next day)

have not played since

also, is it just me or are mantreads and family business a bit shit

[Herrick]

i got, via random drop:

- quick fix (within 30 seconds of logging in after update)
- tomislav (the same day)
- family business (same day, within an hour)
- mantreads (the next day)

have not played since

also, is it just me or are mantreads and family business a bit shit

They're shit, I also don't like the quick fix that much since the lack of overheal can really hurt at times and even with ubers pushing past level 3 sentries can be a bit hairy.

Personally I've not noticed much lag even with the sudden influx of players.

[FatFreddy]

Why should there be "increased lag" with dedicated servers :psyduck: :facepalm:

[Haffrage]

Why should there be "increased lag" with dedicated servers :psyduck: :facepalm:
Fucked if I know, but a lot of players whinge about it and a lot of others say it's impossible. Valve probably fucked something up with drivers or something vOv

The quick fix is better for targets that don't benefit as much from overheal but instead a faster heal rate, e.g. classes that evade damage instead of tank it. Heavies aren't so great, but scouts and pyros are ideal. I really really benefit from a quick fix medic as a pyro. The uberheal is also so amazing, because people don't realize you're getting it since there's no really noticeable effect on you (just the circley thing around your feet from the backup/concherer/amputator - but only on two players, not everyone around you, so most don't even see it).

A quick fixed anything is best countered by a sniper in my couple days of experience. Even spies aren't that great, since we're all fidgety so as to not get sniped and thus spot spies better for it. A heavy with a pocket QF medic goes down to a huntsman arrow though, so that's good.

Edit: the quick fix also has a secondary bonus - we aren't pissy about waiting for overheal. If nobody cares about getting overheal, but instead just healed up to 100%, people are going to run in. This is a good thing in shitty pubs, where a pair of quick fix medics can have an entire team of otherwise bad players storming the enemy nonstop just by healing fast. Psychological warfare on your own team :derper: :derper: :derper:

[kzig]

Out of the new weapons, I'm enjoying the new Demo set the most, but I'm still missing several of the soldier items, so I'll reserve judgment. Claidheamh Mòr + Splendid Screen is an interesting loadout - people don't expect the incredibly long charges, and I've been getting quite a few shield bash kills.

I'm thinking of attempting a random craft of the bootees via demo token + secondary token + scrap (50% chance for 8 metal vs. 100% chance for 20 metal if I crafted some Mantreads and use those).

[Voulture]

I suck so i play pyro/medic only pretty much and get lolz scores while doing below avarage. Shit medic but can use 10% if his iq? Np, win game.

[Tyrehl]

I for one support our new Free 2 play overlords.

People don't spycheck and spys don't know that they can take damage while cloaked or in disguise.

Cue lots of accusations of hacking thrown around.

(also I wanna name the proof of purchase hat 'Pay to Win')

Can someone help me with that? I downloaded the game 2-3 days ago and triend playing for a hour or two. I got some decent kills with some classes but its kinda hard with a spy. I learned how to disguise, stab in the face (lol) and cloak but im having issues with spy checking (isnt it just shooting the person im testing in the face?) and also 'tanking damage' as a spy.

[Womble]

Does anyone know of any trade resources? I have loads of mann crates and some of the summer crates, its a shame that keys don't drop. Does anyone know what i should be trading them for?

[rojomojo915]

Ok, so I just installed this tonight and how do I get items to upgrade my items?

[Sirrush]

Does anyone know of any trade resources? I have loads of mann crates and some of the summer crates, its a shame that keys don't drop. Does anyone know what i should be trading them for?

Should be able to get a scrap or 2 per Cooler (don't know how popular they are), I rarely see normal crates get sold, though, so good luck with that.


Ok, so I just installed this tonight and how do I get items to upgrade my items?
Random drops.

[Skraeling]

this thing still up?

[rojomojo915]

Couldnt find the FHC server last night, but must say, wasnt looking too hard.

[Herrick]

Can someone help me with that? I downloaded the game 2-3 days ago and triend playing for a hour or two. I got some decent kills with some classes but its kinda hard with a spy. I learned how to disguise, stab in the face (lol) and cloak but im having issues with spy checking (isnt it just shooting the person im testing in the face?) and also 'tanking damage' as a spy.

I'm a pretty shit spy buuut...

Spychecking is pretty much just shooting team mates, pyros are naturally best since any spys that take damage also light up like a Christmas tree. The only real good option to counter this is to simply not be there. Stay away from pyros (this can be hard since both classes like to take the less travelled paths on a map) where possible since any half decent one will be so paranoid as to constantly burn everyone and everything. Your cloak will generally be the better bet for most of the time, use your disguise for the final approach from around a corner. Remember where ammo crates are so you can use them to recharge the cloak.

As for tanking the damage it varies, if it's not a pyro or heavy shooting at you your better bet may be to try and ignore the damage as best as you can. If they don't see you turn tail and run after a couple of shots they will likely assume you're not a spy and give up. Otherwise try to get round a corner and cloak up before they see where you went or use the dead ringer to drop a decoy.

Also remember to disguise as classes that make sense. Scouts you can't match the speed of so you stick out like a sore thumb, medics are always building ubercharge so again you stick out. Snipers are always being a waste of a slot so they make perfect choices for faffing about away from the front lines, ect. The main thing however is you need a shit load of patience as a spy, it's also not really a class you can play for an entire round most of the time, the more success you have with the spy the harder it gets as people get more paranoid. Your best bet is to pick spy, quickly do whatever damage you need to then swap back to something else until the enemy forgets about watching their backs again.

[Haffrage]

http://sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=53688&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

check the current offer, and then the 9th post to see how he got it

note: you may want to be sitting on a toilet with your laptop when you read this, because you will shit yourself

[Megathron]

this thing still up?No

Pool's closed

[Amantus]

http://sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=53688&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

check the current offer, and then the 9th post to see how he got it

note: you may want to be sitting on a toilet with your laptop when you read this, because you will shit yourself

I can't open the link but is it about DrunkenF00l? Pretty n1

im gay from my htc desire using tapatalk

[Haffrage]

no it's about a hat that was uncrated with the free christmas key that has sold for 1500 usd

[Amantus]

no it's about a hat that was uncrated with the free christmas key that has sold for 1500 usd

well shit the bed

im gay from my htc desire using tapatalk

[Jon.J]

What the fuck? $1500 for a hat?

Seriously, what the fuck?

[Ashigari]

i wouldnt pay that much for a real hat, much less one in a game :D

[Womble]

Where do you guys go to trade stuff?

[Jon.J]

i wouldnt pay that much for a real hat, much less one in a game :D

It puts monoclegate into a new light

[kzig]

Where do you guys go to trade stuff?

Any server running trade_plaza with 24 or more players, staying for no more than 15 minutes at a time on any one server. www.tf2items.com and www.tf2b.com are also quite useful.

[ElweSingollo]

$1500 for a hat in a game....

[Grarr Dexx]

What the fuck? How desperate can people get?

[Haffrage]

the mac earbuds go for like 20 bucks

the portal 2 promo hat and pin go for 1+ earbuds each (or did until recently), and went for even more when portal 2 was new

That's right

The portal 2 promo items go for nearly as much as portal 2 itself did at release, covered MORE than the cost of the game itself at release, and currently go for more than portal 2 does on sale

:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

[Ask Unbeatable]

I am playing a bit again. Went 20-0 and 47-3 as a Spy on Badwater 24-man in the first couple of rounds

Free game means shit players? It's like people don't even know what the Deadringer does. I literally uncloaked behind people with the super loud noise and they didn't even flinch v0v

And I fucking hate hats

[Rudolf Miller]

the mac earbuds go for like 20 bucks

the portal 2 promo hat and pin go for 1+ earbuds each (or did until recently), and went for even more when portal 2 was new

That's right

The portal 2 promo items go for nearly as much as portal 2 itself did at release, covered MORE than the cost of the game itself at release, and currently go for more than portal 2 does on sale

:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

a LOT of people have been desperately trying to get my portal 2 gears. its funny, cuz i got them partly from the potato pack, and the items i got out of it are worth more than the price i paid for the whole pack.

rofl rofl

[scoser]

I am playing a bit again. Went 20-0 and 47-3 as a Spy on Badwater 24-man in the first couple of rounds

Free game means shit players? It's like people don't even know what the Deadringer does. I literally uncloaked behind people with the super loud noise and they didn't even flinch v0v

And I fucking hate hats

Yeah, bads galore with free to play. On my usual server, 2fort was unironically voted for the next map. This never happens, but once on 2fort, there were people with the intel that did not know where to take it. Also, pushing the cart or standing on the control point are apparently impossible to comprehend. I fully expect to see a heavy switch to melee to try and chase down a scout one of these days.

[ElweSingollo]

but but fists of flaming fury make heavy go fast!!! :P

[Haffrage]

Yeah, bads galore with free to play. On my usual server, 2fort was unironically voted for the next map. This never happens, but once on 2fort, there were people with the intel that did not know where to take it. Also, pushing the cart or standing on the control point are apparently impossible to comprehend. I fully expect to see a heavy switch to melee to try and chase down a scout one of these days.this post is basically why I rage so fucking hard when I can't find a moderately tolerable server /o\ So fucking bad. So very fucking bad. Stop running away from the point. Stop not realizing you took the intel. Stop being so fucking useless and heal me you fucking free playing medic /o\

Also hit detection issues galore, on certain servers. Blacklist is a go.

[Caol]

Haven't played in a while, game sounds like a Korean MMO :S , if i boot up will i feel like i've met up with my school sweet heart only to find she got pregnant the day after I last saw her, eats 4 happy meals a day and brags about the range of Hamburgular toys she has?

[Haffrage]

I'm trying to have entrox set up the free2beblocked plugin or whatever it's called, and I guess we'll all hop on it some time in the hopes it fills up. If we keep it up it MIGHT gain some regular players. Might.

[cullnean]

I'm trying to have entrox set up the free2beblocked plugin or whatever it's called, and I guess we'll all hop on it some time in the hopes it fills up. If we keep it up it MIGHT gain some regular players. Might.

i play on 2 servers the RPS one and the PCgamer(uk), always have always will

[ElweSingollo]

i play on 2 servers the RPS one and the PCgamer(uk), always have always will

I try going on the pcgamer one but server is always full and I usually can't be arsed to hang around... that and I suck at TF2 so usually end up raging and dying a lot when I do get in.

[Takon Orlani]

I play on trashed gamers.
This will make haffrage reply.

[Haffrage]

I play on trashed gamers.
This will make haffrage reply.>implying I have a specific dislike of trashed gamers, and not those kinds of servers in general

[ctrlchris]

>implying I have a specific dislike of trashed gamers, and not those kinds of servers in general

made you reply though~

[Haffrage]

c

oh my god free play medics jesus fucking christ just die irl

[kzig]

Found a wonderfully lulz-worthy map on the London TF2maps.net server this evening. A payload map, where BLU has to push the cart across train tracks. Twice. And if a train hits the cart on either occasion, the round ends in a stalemate. The griefing potential is staggering, especially when a team of 12 have taken nearly 15 minutes to get there...

[Boltorano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUrNamHTO-I

TF2 was so great when it first came out.

Oh wait, it's still great!

[kzig]

For anyone interested - the map was pl_dockyard_a4 (http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?p=238925). Apparently this is pretty much the first half-decent payload map anyone's produced that has a stalemate condition. Here's the stats page (http://feedback.tf2maps.net/index.php?do=roundstats&map=pl_dockyard_a4) for it on tf2maps. It's still in the early stages of development and needs lots of texturing/tweaking etc, but I enjoyed playing on it.

[Amantus]

it's fucking astonishing how so many pubbie medics can't work out that if the are damaged and i throw a sandvich and then stand there looking, shouting and shooting it, they need to pick up the fucking sandvich to heal. jesus christ

[Boltorano]

it's fucking astonishing how so many pubbie medics can't work out that if the are damaged and i throw a sandvich and then stand there looking, shouting and shooting it, they need to pick up the fucking sandvich to heal. jesus christ

Haven't played since about April, so I missed the big F2P rush. Is it really that bad?

Before I stopped I was generally only playing on this one 24/7 Mountain Lab server, so I'm not sure how much of that I would run into.

[Don Pellegrino]

Haven't played since about April, so I missed the big F2P rush. Is it really that bad?

Before I stopped I was generally only playing on this one 24/7 Mountain Lab server, so I'm not sure how much of that I would run into.
It's horrible and they're everywhere. I would say roughly 70% of the players on a server are totally worthless and will react in the worst possible way to *stuff* that happens to them. There's always been newbies, but there's at least 2 or 3 times more of them. It's cool to have a 4:1 kill to death ratio and a 10:1 points to death ratio, but it gets frustrating REALLY fast when you can't complete any objectives because of how bad they are.

Yesterday I was playing on koth_sawmill and people just kept throwing themselves at the saws. AGAIN AND AGAIN.
On a team, there's usually 2 or 3 people with let's say 20 points and the rest will all have less than 5.
A team with only 4 snipers+spies is incredibly rare.
A team with a medic happens less than 50% of the time and then the medic is usually retarded.
I love playing medic, but fuck that with all those free-to-play'ers, I only ever do it if there's a decent heavy with a mic on the team and then I'll pocket him.

[Amantus]

This just in: games for hats.

[Womble]

Recently started playing spy (last 2 days) and omg how fucking overpowered. I went from a decent medic/pyro to a spy that get hurled abuse. The amount of rage you generate is awesome. Its great, although I maybe a scrub and its just a load of f2p people who suck.

[FatFreddy]

reinstalling

pubbies of the world, one more dedicated medic for your worthless asses

[filingo]

spamming "i love free to play games" works wonders in this

[Kransthow]

http://onebit.us/images/1313113502570.jpg
What did they change that makes me crash randomly every 30 seconds to 2 hours.

[FatFreddy]

reinstalling

pubbies of the world, one more dedicated medic for your worthless asses


now i remember one of the reasons i stopped playing

is there an active fhc group that plays this together perhaps?

[filingo]

sort of

jump on entrox ts or just spam your friend list on steam when you see someone playing

OMG GUISE LETS ALL PLAY TF2

[FatFreddy]

but..but...my friend list on steam is le empty

[filingo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyQXMsg9Xmg

vyQXMsg9Xmg

[FatFreddy]

Is there any of the new (for me) gear that is worthwile choosing over the standard equipment? Most of it looks really gimmicky.

[filingo]

i have no idea what half of the new weapons do but the old favourites still work good

FISH KILL BEST KILL

[FatFreddy]

well everything except the backburner and the force-a-nature are new for me. got the direct hit rocket launcher today, obv nice for some things and then terrible for others so meh

[kzig]

The most useful non-vanilla items by class, in my experience:

Scout: my least played class, but I'd say:

Bonk! Atomic punch - for getting through chokepoints and distracting sentries so your team-mates can clear them out.
The Sandman - stunning people, esp. ubers
Shortstop - highest burst DPS scout weapon, I suspect

Soldier:

Equaliser - more or less a straight upgrade from the shovel, allows you to 1-shot several classes when you're on low health
Pain train (on appropriate maps)
Buff Banner / Batallion's Backup - team boosts are fun


Pyro:

Degreaser + Axtinguisher / Postal Pummeler combo - lots of melee crits.
Flare gun / Detonator - remember, this crits players who are already on fire (e.g. those running away from you) and flares are fast.
Homewrecker - it is much harder for an attacking team to take out a sentry nest if it's guarded by a pyro who sets spies on fire, reflects incoming projectiles, puts out engineers set on fire by flares and helps to remove sappers.


Demoman:

Scottish Resistance - creates / destroys minefields with ease.
Targe + Pain train - useful combo on CP / payload maps, granting speed, durability, and double cap rate.
Claidheamh Mòr - the extra 0.5s of charge duration is quite a bit of extra distance, and can catch people off guard.
Sticky Jumper + Ullapool Caber - opens up some extremely suicidal playstyles, especially in large open-air maps like Lakeside.


Heavy:

GRU - when teamed with a medic, the self damage allows them to gain Uber faster. If you time jumps correctly, you get a small boost and can reach some places that you usually cannot, e.g. the corridor ledge on Turbine.
Tomislav / Natascha - in closed / open spaces respectively.


Engineer:

Wrangler - enables sentry jumping, allowing you to set up in unexpected places (e.g. the roof on B in Gravel Pit).
Frontier Justice
Golden Wrench


Medic:

Quick fix can be useful for keeping lots of weaker classes alive
Amputator for AoE taunt healing


Sniper:

The full set that makes you immune to headshots
Jarate


Spy:

Dead Ringer + new set (inaudible feign death, no disguise, no notification to enemy team when you kill one of them)
DR + Enforcer: 20% extra damage, no drawback. Crits for 144. This seems to be the current weapon of choice for people using 100% crit hacks.

[FatFreddy]

superb writeup, thank you!

[EntroX]

imo best soldier = reg rocket launcher, shotgun and equalizer, just for the lolrunawaytogetHP (and running over faggots with 1 hit if they're on the way)

[Protik]

of the newer items (basically anything not vintage):
The Atomizer - triple jump, best jump
The Reserve Shooter - if you are not terrible and can bounce people
The Persian Persuader - all ammo collected becomes health, is basically a hack
The Brass Beast - 20% damage bonus, screw moving
Detonator - for extra jumping shenanigans

[Amantus]

i lol at heavies who use anything other than minigun

[EntroX]

i lol at heavies who use anything other than minigun

sniper tomislav best havi tbh

[Womble]

ust got my familiar fez and its awesome with the dead ringer.

[FatFreddy]

http://soundcloud.com/goodeggs/force-a-nem-mmph-the-way-you-mmph-feat-pyrihanna

I'm loling so hard I'm almost roffeling

[Ask Unbeatable]

i got my highlander medal

[Polysynchronicity]

STARTING TF2 NOW

edit:

http://i.imgur.com/2caMn.png

[Al Simmons]

i lol at heavies who use anything other than minigun

I miss the brokenness of Natascha/Sandvich/Running Gloves haby though. Was so awesome.

[Amantus]

STARTING TF2 NOW

edit:

http://i.imgur.com/2caMn.png

mate


and nice fps mate

[Womble]

the short circuit is awesome, for engies, demo throwing loads of pipebombs your way? 1-click all gone.

Edit also getting rage thrown my way with Saharan spy and dead ringer.

[filingo]

haha i got one too even tho i couldnt make it to any of the matches

unapolagetically pink

[cillisia]

http://soundcloud.com/goodeggs/force-a-nem-mmph-the-way-you-mmph-feat-pyrihanna

I'm loling so hard I'm almost roffeling

thats frickin awesome

[Amantus]

I miss the brokenness of Natascha/Sandvich/Running Gloves haby though. Was so awesome.

I use Minigun/Sandvich/Gloves. It's still owny.

[kzig]

You mean back when the Buffalo Steak Sandvich stacked with the GRU and heavies were temporarily faster than scouts? Yes, I remember that too.

[EntroX]

http://soundcloud.com/goodeggs/force-a-nem-mmph-the-way-you-mmph-feat-pyrihanna

I'm loling so hard I'm almost roffeling

this is p. cool

[FatFreddy]

Iu_VFkA4sf4

[Kransthow]

Decided to try playing after not having played for ages.

Hey, this is still pretty fun I wonder why I ever sto-

hl2.exe has stopped working
Well I'm sure that was just a minor hiccup, it probably works mo-

hl2.exe has stopped working
http://onebit.us/x/i/555809107980657340.jpg

[Loganbacca]

Just started playing on the weekend and have already unlocked two crates. Is that a bad sign?

[Boltorano]

Have not played since around May or so, not really because I dislike the game, just not bothered enough to wait for it to download again after my last Windows reinstall. Anything new and interesting?

[Tyrehl]

Im playing it with a friend because he isnt playing 50 Eur for BF3 (well like every normal person). Is there a good way to have co-op fun (except Medic+Heavy)?

o7

[dpidcoe]

Im playing it with a friend because he isnt playing 50 Eur for BF3 (well like every normal person). Is there a good way to have co-op fun (except Medic+Heavy)? Spy team is always fun. One guy suicide backstabs, and the second guy cashes in on the distraction. (The other team usually thinks there can't possibly be 2 spies in the same vicinity).


Also, I'd probably play again if I could find a server with no unlocks.

[ctrlchris]

People still play tf2?

[Kransthow]

People still play tf2?
http://onebit.us/x/i/9032917241707657846.jpg
Of course not

[kzig]

Im playing it with a friend because he isnt playing 50 Eur for BF3 (well like every normal person). Is there a good way to have co-op fun (except Medic+Heavy)? Spy team is always fun. One guy suicide backstabs, and the second guy cashes in on the distraction. (The other team usually thinks there can't possibly be 2 spies in the same vicinity).


Also, I'd probably play again if I could find a server with no unlocks.

Bonk Scout + jumper Soldier / Demo works well for taking out sentries and getting caps, as both classes are highly mobile. Works particularly well on doublecross.

[Amantus]

havy imo

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[Al Simmons]

I played this game today. Got bored within a couple of hours though. :(

[Nordstern]

You played for a couple hours, though. That's good.

Unfortunately, I haven't played since July, and when I go to server browser, no servers are showing up. As an aside, MW2 bitches at me about NAT redirection or some shit, so can't play that either.

[Takon Orlani]

I haven't played tf2 in ages.

[Lorkin Desal]

I reinstalled Tf2. I was disapointed about all the free to play pubbies who cant play for shit. I kiled them all.

[Rans]

bump. So I recently started playing again and I've been receiving tens of offers for my gentle manne's service medal no1500something

some of them were really generous going to things like 10 keys+uber hats+uber rare guns, etc. or steam games

my question is: how much is a medal like that worth? I also have key nr300something so I'm not going to cry over losing one of them,

[kzig]

Being a Golden Wrench owner is increasingly amusing. More and more frequently people come across me who have never seen one and ask where they can get one, but most of the time someone else is kind enough to explain in detail.

[Polysynchronicity]

logged onto tf2

yup, I can still carry on medic

logged off of tf2

[Kransthow]

logged onto tf2

yup, I can still carry on medic

logged off of tf2
Logged on-

hl2.exe has stopped working
I'm sur-

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I-

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http://1bi.us/abo
Fucking valve

[filingo]

NS2 > TF2

[Al Simmons]

logged onto tf2

yup, I can still carry on medic

logged off of tf2
Logged on-

hl2.exe has stopped working
I'm sur-

hl2.exe has stopped working
I-

hl2.exe has stopped working

http://1bi.us/abo
Fucking valve

I don't get that problem too much, though it hates it when you alt-tab out to forumwhore for 5 minutes. But what happens really often for me is when you join a server and instantly get hit with that connection problem thing and the little red timer counts down from 30 seconds before it disconnects you. I never know whether that's just cunty admins kicking me instantly for joining their circle jerk server or just the game being bad at internets.

I loaded up the game a couple weeks ago and all my old fav servers were full, and I tried to join like 5 others and got the connection problem bs, so I gave up.

[Spaztick]

I fixed the source tab problem by just putting -noborder on all the startup config options so I could play windowed.

[kzig]

Anyone up for ETF2L 2012?

[Daco]

I play this most nights with a mate, we usually go Him as a Tomislav(?) Heavy and me a medic and we are normally unstoppable.

But last time we played we decided to do something different, he went as a demo man and I went as a pyro. I was running with the Detonator and the Degreaser as well as a crazy axe that sets them on fire but I can't remember what it was called. It was probably one of the most fun matches we've had.

I would be checking for spies and repelling missiles from soldiers (Which is so much fun btw blowing them back at them) and just in general setting everything on fire while he was taking care of the heavier guys that I couldn't. That axe is also a lot of fun and still works if I end up in water if we're playing 2fort.

Needless to say I was the top scorer with my mate a close second.

[kzig]

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Styles

Only just noticed this, almost a year after it first came out.

[kzig]

Looks as though Meet The Pyro is imminent:

http://onebit.us/x/i/8bce02034e.png

[scoser]

Incoming meet the pyro video?

Even if the pyro mumbles through the entirety of it, it'll still be more comprehensible than the ME3 ending.

[Evelgrivion]

Gentlemen, Meet the Pyro.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I

[Polysynchronicity]

Incoming meet the pyro video?

Even if the pyro mumbles through the entirety of it, it'll still be more comprehensible than the ME3 ending.

Sir, I'm not sure you were right.

[kzig]

There are loads of balance changes as well:



Weapon balancing changes

Gloves of Running Urgently
Removed self-damage over time penalty
Heavy takes mini-crits while active and for 3 seconds after switching away
Attack damage penalty reduced from -50% to -25%

Tomislav
Spin-up speed bonus reduced from +40% to +10%

Quick-Fix
Medic mirrors blast jump of their heal target
Crusader's Crossbow
Reload speed time reduced by +40%
Cozy Camper
Regenerates 1 heath per second
Reduced movement penalty from -90% to -80%
Sticky Jumper and Rocket Jumper
Added 'flying' sound to blast jumps
The Concheror
Changed rage building source from "damage done and damage received" to only "damage done"
Increased the rate at which Rage builds for this item by +25%
The Equalizer
Removed player move speed modification and added it to a new item named the Escape Plan
All owners of the Equalizer will be automatically granted the Escape Plan
Crit-a-Cola
Added +25% increased movement speed while active
Increased duration from 6 to 8 seconds
Atomic Bonk
Increased duration from 6 to 8 seconds
All Flamethrowers
Increased base damage by +10%.
Backburner
Removed +10% damage bonus attribute
Note: Because of base damage increase, damage remains unchanged
Degreaser
Added -10% damage penalty attribute
Note: Because of base damage increase, damage remains unchanged
Phlogistinator
Damage defense while taunting reduced from -90% to -75%



The Quick-Fix change is by far the most interesting. It doesn't matter how far away from someone you are - as long as you're still healing them, you gain their full launch velocity. This opens up some excellent griefing opportunities (oh, I'm sorry, did you just jump off that cliff with a full uber?) but can lead to some interesting combat situations.

[Sponk]

Hmm, equaliser nerf is well deserved. Still getting used to the heavy nerfs, although to be honest I used the gun just for the ammo conservation.



Blah blah tapatalk

[Sponk]

http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/785

[kzig]

In all fairness, the developments from the last panel are strictly opt-in and can be completely ignored if you prefer.

[XenosisReaper]

thread revive, give us an MvM server

[EntroX]

thread revive, give us an MvM server

meh

[XenosisReaper]

thread revive, give us an MvM server

meh

nice blog mate

[scoser]

Even if it was in Antarctica, it would be better than an hour wait time to join a pub MvM server.

[Womble]

Is my understanding skewed or do you have to buy a ticket to participate in game of MvM?

Essentially you have to spend money to play this new mode?

[TroN]

I think you don't have to, but if you do you get better rewards

[Poem]

You can put in tokens to get the chances of some rare cosmetic shit.

[Rudolf Miller]

I want MvM

plz

pretty plz?

[Ashaz]

What be this MvM then?

[Fallout]

Managed to get into one game, its average at best. Not worth waiting 40 mins in matchmaking for anyway. Just play L4D instead you will probably have more fun.

[EntroX]

fine, if someone reminds me tonight (on IRC) i'll set a server up.

[hinch]

I has MvM server up and running 77.74.196.140 (default port 27015?)

Its a completely vanilla server with just the 3 mvm maps running on it. If someone would like to actually actively admin it / configure it / install mods or something let me know

[Don Pellegrino]

I can't believe people are paying money to get into this. Open the server search, click on Filters, put "mvm" in map filter, refresh, pick best ping that doesn't 6 have players. Enjoy.

[Ezekiel Sulastin]

Ahh, but you only get the ZOMG SHINIEZ if you pay!

[kzig]

I found the most bizarre TF2 server I've come across in quite a while:
76.114.152.234:27015
a.k.a. Multiply a Weapon's Stats by 10- The Server.

The basic things like damage and range explosion radius are (mostly) unmodified - the difference is that all bonuses and drawbacks are multiplied by 10. So take the Brass Beast for example - the modified stats are:
+200% damage 500% slower spin-up time -600% move speed while firing

Some otherwise largely unused weapons become extremely overpowered. Here are the most commonly seen ones:

Spy: Conniver's Kunai - you only have 1 hp initially, so the Dead Ringer is useless at that point, but each time you backstab someone, your health is set to ~1700hp. Even vs. multiple opponents shooting at you point blank you can usually manage to keep stabbing people faster than they can kill you.
Scout: Soda Popper - clip of 1, but fires faster than the heavy's minigun due to +250% reload speed bonus. All scout projectile weapons have a clip of 10 instead of the usual 1. +250 health from the polycount set or +150 from one of the new pistols. Probably the best counter to Kunai spies.
Demoman: Splendid Screen for ~600 charge damage (1-hit kill vs. anything other than Kunai spy), and Persian Persuader for approx. 1 sec charge cooldown.
Soldier: Beggar's Bazooka + Gunboats = empty a clip of 30 rockets in one go, with 60° random spread (combine with Equaliser to kill taunt without dying). Alternatively, polycount set causes sentry fire to heal you (-200% damage).
Pyro: +100% speed (and bullet vulnerability) from the polycount set.
Heavy: Fists of steel = immunity vs. ranged damage, but you die to a single melee hit.


There are others, of course, but those are the most common ones I've seen. For melee-only rounds, back scratcher pyro usually trumps everything else.