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Omega Supreme
October 2 2013, 04:24:06 AM
PBE updated with new Jinx model for default, they've basically made her closer to the splash/teaser:


http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/53/481/comparison.jpg

Omega Supreme
October 2 2013, 10:10:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktNfbZtqmek&feature=share

Voyboy blog about new olaf. Tl,dr; He's a melee carry now and benefits more from getting damage items than straight CDR/HP tanky.

Nicho Void
October 2 2013, 02:40:22 PM
Play Zyra support. Out damage your entire team. Easy gold.

Waagaa
October 2 2013, 03:03:47 PM
Play Zyra support. Out damage your entire team. Easy gold.

Been there, done that, got a triple kill with passive. :)

Omega Supreme
October 3 2013, 07:08:37 AM
Duoqueue, forget to swap champs, leaving me with Battle AP Leona and him support runes/masteries Mordekaiser. Still win. :razor:

El Capitano
October 3 2013, 09:10:17 AM
Play Zyra support. Out damage your entire team. Easy gold.
I never do swaps, there's just not enough time to negotiate it and people in Silver likely don't have all champs. Then they may simply pick the champ and go AFK, forgetting they need to swap.

Irion
October 3 2013, 09:41:27 AM
Exactly this I'm silver and theres still three champs I haven't got, it keeps me awake at night. Also most players are retards and will either pick the wrong champion of fail to trade correctly.

Same with counter picking, most of the time people are so hung up countering a champ they forget they don't know how to play the one they just selected or nobody in the team wants to play the awesome champ they just got "for the team".

XenosisReaper
October 3 2013, 11:42:23 AM
Exactly this I'm silver and theres still three champs I haven't got, it keeps me awake at night. Also most players are retards and will either pick the wrong champion of fail to trade correctly.

Same with counter picking, most of the time people are so hung up countering a champ they forget they don't know how to play the one they just selected or nobody in the team wants to play the awesome champ they just got "for the team".

Counter picking means nothing in silver

I mean sure, it's probably easier to play Caitlyn vs a Vayne, but if the Vayne has godllike mechanics~ you're still gonna get fucked in the bum.

Grarr Dexx
October 3 2013, 11:45:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX_IQkeXq9g

This is just insane.

El Capitano
October 3 2013, 11:49:02 AM
Counter picking means nothing in silver
It means less, but it doesn't mean nothing.

Irion
October 3 2013, 11:58:20 AM
Exactly this I'm silver and theres still three champs I haven't got, it keeps me awake at night. Also most players are retards and will either pick the wrong champion of fail to trade correctly.

Same with counter picking, most of the time people are so hung up countering a champ they forget they don't know how to play the one they just selected or nobody in the team wants to play the awesome champ they just got "for the team".

Counter picking means nothing in silver

I mean sure, it's probably easier to play Caitlyn vs a Vayne, but if the Vayne has godllike mechanics~ you're still gonna get fucked in the bum.

I wouldn't say it means nothing (if somone takes jax top I always want to take panth up there if I can) but its far more improtant to play something you are good at and are comfortable with.

XenosisReaper
October 3 2013, 11:59:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX_IQkeXq9g

This is just insane.

Thats amazing.

I Legionnaire
October 3 2013, 12:26:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX_IQkeXq9g

This is just insane.

Thats amazing.

That's amazing anime gayness.

Nicho Void
October 3 2013, 02:40:44 PM
Oh good! The counterpick argument again!

Nicho Void
October 3 2013, 02:45:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX_IQkeXq9g

This is just insane.

Thats amazing.

That's amazing anime gayness.
They partnered with some of the people who worked on The Legend of Korra.

So a couple points:
1. It's not technically anime because it's not Japanese
2. You like buttes and you're a butte.

FourFiftyFour
October 3 2013, 04:07:20 PM
Duoqueue, forget to swap champs, leaving me with Battle AP Leona and him support runes/masteries Mordekaiser. Still win. :razor:

Lol that was a pretty face palm moment.

Our J4 wasn't doing us any favors either.

Omega Supreme
October 4 2013, 03:54:43 AM
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25877-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-10-4-2013-jinxs-e-w

Jinx nerfed already, ouch.

Her base damage on R has been halved at all ranks.

Also the 3.13 PBE patch will contain the reworks for Xerath and Heimerdinger.

QuackBot
October 4 2013, 04:00:12 AM
Lol that was a pretty face palm moment.

Our J4 wasn't doing us any favors either.
Got it in his head that i am doing lol.

Omega Supreme
October 4 2013, 08:42:33 AM
http://imgur.com/bGOQNbZ

Possibly a new Darius skin coming, not sure if it's really a new one, or just a comedy skin for the display.

Omega Supreme
October 4 2013, 12:50:59 PM
https://twitter.com/SotLTravis/status/385844260198576128

https://twitter.com/SotLTravis/status/385844570514132993

https://twitter.com/TSMXpecial/status/385843212503351296

Oh how I hope these just aren't trolls to screw with gullible people.

They're tweets from Travis of State of the League, and Xspecial (if it wasn't obvious lolz) strongly suggesting major roster shakeups for season 4. Travis in particular saying several EU players are going to NA.

If the roster shakeup is true, please please please be TSM and CLG.

Voulture
October 4 2013, 01:37:11 PM
If the roster shakeup is true, please please please be TSM and CLG.

Why? What would you like to see changed? Serious question.

Nicho Void
October 4 2013, 03:17:17 PM
If the roster shakeup is true, please please please be TSM and CLG.

Why? What would you like to see changed? Serious question.
TSM:
- Reginald to the bench/analyst/manager. His play style doesn't work in the current meta.
- Look for a support or mid, potentially moving xpecial to the mid. Xpecial shot caller.

CLG:
- Find a real support for your all star ADC.

Omega Supreme
October 4 2013, 03:25:56 PM
CLG...if they got a strategy that wasn't "Protect the Doublelift", that'd be a huge step in the right direction.

Every team they face knows they do that. It was especially obvious when Hotshot was playing tank tops.

SAI Peregrinus
October 4 2013, 05:07:07 PM
I want to see Xpecial and Doublelift on the same team.

Alex Caine
October 4 2013, 05:12:08 PM
TSM:
- Reginald to the bench/analyst/manager. His play style doesn't work in the current meta.
- Look for a support or mid, potentially moving xpecial to the mid. Xpecial shot caller.


Oh god so much this.

Voulture
October 4 2013, 05:44:38 PM
Doublelift, Xpecial, Link, Dyrus, Oddone in one team, what else we could want right?

DrunkenOne
October 4 2013, 06:11:59 PM
Current odds are
RC +1.5 -150
SKT1 -1.5 +123

RC +141
SKT1 -172

DrunkenOne
October 4 2013, 06:16:24 PM
Hey guys i know lets recycle the same shitty NA "talent" that has been repeatedly outclassed on the international scene! Who needs new talent when you can just mix and match people by stream viewer #s

I would rather see them pick up top amateurs and have the support system available to build up these guys. This is the korean model and it can actually introduce fresh blood and talent. Until NA starts doing that instead of making "superteams" out of the same handful of old crappy players they are never going to compete.

XenosisReaper
October 4 2013, 06:29:06 PM
Hey guys i know lets recycle the same shitty NA "talent" that has been repeatedly outclassed on the international scene! Who needs new talent when you can just mix and match people by stream viewer #s

To be fair, the problem was the NA strats, not the players themselves

(obviously yes some players could be replaced, but the real issue was the metagame and the lack of decent competition in the NA LCS)

DrunkenOne
October 4 2013, 06:37:20 PM
Hey guys i know lets recycle the same shitty NA "talent" that has been repeatedly outclassed on the international scene! Who needs new talent when you can just mix and match people by stream viewer #s

To be fair, the problem was the NA strats, not the players themselves

(obviously yes some players could be replaced, but the real issue was the metagame and the lack of decent competition in the NA LCS)
Pretty sure its both. TSM vs SKT1, literally every player on TSM is worse than every player on SKT1. Even Fnatic, the "best" team in the west, got destroyed in every lane. Fnatic took double teleport the 1st game to run their usual teleport comp but was forced to take ignite every other game because they lost lane so badly. I think the meta has very little to do with it besides exposing some players limited champion pools which is again a player issue not a meta issue.

Shuffling players from CLG/Curse/TSM clearly doesn't work which is shown by their lack of success this year. Replacing a crappy mid with another crappy mid isn't going to change the fact that either one can't match up to top tier international talent. I mean look at C9, they were a borderline LCS team which lost to Marn and Azure gaming. Roster shakeup, lost Wildturtle and nien to other teams, but then found meteos in solo q and he carried them to their current state.

Really what teams need to be doing is having tryouts, and kicking people who underperform, even if they are popular. If you don't put up results, you are gone, which is how it works in Korea/China and how it works in pretty much any other sport. However idk if that will ever work in NA due to the popularity of streaming. Sponsers aren't going to demand to drop say, Oddone, because he has 25k+ people watching his stream which means more eyeballs on your advertisements. It doesn't matter that he is nowhere near a world class jungler since he brings in more money than a random no-name solo q allstar would, even if that player is better.

Omega Supreme
October 4 2013, 07:40:10 PM
http://www.reddit.com/user/Udyr

Check that post history. Championship Thresh is out (and officially a Legacy Skin vs Championship Riven being Limited Edition).

Riot is also moving away from having any limited edition-class skins and more legacy/permanently available.

Nothing but good news there.

Nicho Void
October 4 2013, 08:06:54 PM
http://www.reddit.com/user/Udyr

Check that post history. Championship Thresh is out (and officially a Legacy Skin vs Championship Riven being Limited Edition).

Riot is also moving away from having any limited edition-class skins and more legacy/permanently available.

Nothing but good news there.
"We are moving away from creating new Limited Edition skins because in the long run they create disappointment for too many players."


Bawwwwwwwwwww

Surveyor
October 4 2013, 09:47:20 PM
So finals soon. But i got zero interest in watching. Does that make me racist because i don't care(can't relate to) for finals in which only asians are fighting?

Voulture
October 4 2013, 10:24:00 PM
Hey guys i know lets recycle the same shitty NA "talent" that has been repeatedly outclassed on the international scene! Who needs new talent when you can just mix and match people by stream viewer #s

I would rather see them pick up top amateurs and have the support system available to build up these guys. This is the korean model and it can actually introduce fresh blood and talent. Until NA starts doing that instead of making "superteams" out of the same handful of old crappy players they are never going to compete.

Is this why we got C9 in finals?

Nicho Void
October 5 2013, 12:29:09 AM
Apparently DrunkenOne didn't read about Riot and Coke teaming up to create a challenger league like the LCS.

Raxxman
October 5 2013, 12:30:33 AM
Apparently DrunkenOne didn't read about Riot and Coke teaming up to create a challenger league like the LCS.

Neither did I...

eh?

I'm looking forward to the finals but can only watch for about 3 hours because it's at 1pm here and I have a BBQ to go to

1stworldproblems.

Nicho Void
October 5 2013, 01:03:42 AM
http://www.polygon.com/2013/10/3/4798414/league-of-legends-challenger-league-riot-games-coke-zero-esports

Raxxman
October 5 2013, 04:36:39 AM
Cheers Nicho :)

Whelp that game was amazing.

I Legionnaire
October 5 2013, 04:43:46 AM
I think the defining difference between the Asians and NA is a sense of professionalism. Even with the opposing team all down SKT didn't fuck around on the nexus. It really is like watching a pro sports team, props to them and their attitude.

Like has been said in the thread, I'd like to see tryouts in the US to give unknown players a chance at joining teams. Guys like Dyrus and TheOddOne are obviously talented players, but worlds definitely showed that they're overhyped and not world-class.

Omega Supreme
October 5 2013, 06:26:58 AM
What the fuck was that anticlimatic boring cock shit?

I've seen more fucking exciting games in solo queue.

SAI Peregrinus
October 5 2013, 06:27:02 AM
Choo Choo!
20:50 win for SKT in that last game.

LoKiPP
October 5 2013, 07:43:19 AM
What the fuck was that anticlimatic boring cock shit?

I've seen more fucking exciting games in solo queue.

Welcome to e-sports finals? Most have blow outs like these, especially sc2.

XenosisReaper
October 5 2013, 02:24:50 PM
GG Riot, schedule the finals for 4AM EUW time and then stick a massive spoiler in the client for when you log in

Thanks.

Really, thanks.

Omega Supreme
October 5 2013, 02:26:18 PM
GG Riot, schedule the finals for 4AM EUW time and then stick a massive spoiler in the client for when you log in

Thanks.

Really, thanks.

The same problem is on the ESports site as well. Even if you turn off spoilers. :lol:

Omega Supreme
October 6 2013, 06:20:13 AM
So apparently the big new bug is that if you get a stack on Occult/Mejai, then sell and undo, you get free stacks. Ranked disabled on most servers until the bug's fixed.

:lol:

Hopefully Riot takes the incentive to just fucking remove those two items, only noobs/shitlords buy them anyway.

Omega Supreme
October 6 2013, 08:38:35 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ntqv5/for_people_with_toaster_pcs_in_season_4_you_wont/


Phreak post on Reddit saying S4 changes testing includes a Dominion-style walling of fountain. What that means is for 15 seconds, you can't leave fountain and possibly a Homeguard-style move speed boost. Phreak comment there confirms it's in testing, but he's not the authority on upcoming changes.

El Capitano
October 6 2013, 10:09:39 AM
That walling off is a good idea, as it helps prevent the "rush to the invade point" that's very often pot luck whether or not one of your teammates was a bit slow buying their items.

Nicho Void
October 8 2013, 12:17:07 AM
New Curse lineup:

Top: Voyboy
Mid: Pobelter
Jungle: IWillDominate
Adc: Aphromoo
Support: Zekent

:popcorn:

Omega Supreme
October 8 2013, 12:46:37 AM
I didn't see anything about Nyjacky at all. Not even listed as a sub, if he got released, where's he going?

LoKiPP
October 8 2013, 12:51:59 AM
Jacky and Cop are going to their 2nd team, which is being built around Jacky. So they have 2 pro and 1 amateur team. This move indicates LCS S4 changes are coming up.

Omega Supreme
October 8 2013, 12:53:44 AM
So A and B teams just like the Alliance Tournament?

What can go wrong with that? :p

Raxxman
October 8 2013, 01:50:00 AM
New Curse lineup:

Top: Voyboy
Mid: Pobelter
Jungle: IWillDominate
Adc: Aphromoo
Support: Zekent

:popcorn:


It's funny that Saint gave HotshotGG so much shit about being benched, saying about he wasn't going to get benched etc etc.

Alex Caine
October 8 2013, 07:02:46 AM
Thank fuck Saint is gone. Real potential to improve now, should be interesting.

Voulture
October 8 2013, 10:43:15 AM
Hello el exist etc. Decided to play rankeds again, season ending, I want my skin right? JUst went through my placement games, was 1850 psr before it was hidden then gold 1 last season. According to lolnexus every single game from first one was versus gold/plat players. Never saw a silver or bronze, some unrankeds like me.

But but but, here is where you tell me "good job voult you are good" and i say humble thanks and stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/xz63HZI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tqf9lyJ.jpg

evil edna
October 8 2013, 10:52:06 AM
looks like you got carried voult

Voulture
October 8 2013, 11:00:40 AM
Holy shit yes in my first game i had 20/1 solo top master yi who rushes infinity edge before boots. Got carried acquire gold.

Zeekar
October 8 2013, 11:51:20 AM
Hello el exist etc. Decided to play rankeds again, season ending, I want my skin right? JUst went through my placement games, was 1850 psr before it was hidden then gold 1 last season. According to lolnexus every single game from first one was versus gold/plat players. Never saw a silver or bronze, some unrankeds like me.

But but but, here is where you tell me "good job voult you are good" and i say humble thanks and stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/xz63HZI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tqf9lyJ.jpg

Heh, I'm willing to bet your team average skill was way higher than mine when I did placement matches. I mean fuck I had retards who never before played ADCs.

Nobody_Holme
October 8 2013, 02:30:11 PM
Of course it was, he had high-silver or low-gold ELO already, so will get matchmade, instead of stuck in with other placement people during placement matches, and thus come out nice and high up.

Omega Supreme
October 8 2013, 02:46:37 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Edwardcarrylol/posts/670890419588977

Back off to Europe Edward goes!

Granted the Curse restructuring should've been a clue that CRS Edward is no more.

DrunkenOne
October 8 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Both those curse teams look pretty underwhelming on paper, great move shaking up their whole lineup but again just recycling the same few players.

Pobelter is like the only interesting pickup there. He was super hyped iirc but no idea how good he is now, but has to be an upgrade over jackey. I like zekent a lot but was never impressed by his support. Aphro was really hyped too but then underperformed a lot. Who is the shotcaller, IWD??

These teams might not even make LCS, especially that lolpro team. I guess theres always the coke zero league.

I Legionnaire
October 8 2013, 04:55:21 PM
ITT jealous Bronzies

DrunkenOne
October 8 2013, 05:01:38 PM
of the NACL teams, GGLA looks really strong imo, watched them beat curse academy yestreday

otter was making plays like Zuna, except they worked.

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Gold_Gaming_LA

Grarr Dexx
October 8 2013, 05:01:51 PM
"elo hell doesn't exist"

*gets carried to gold in placement games*

cullnean
October 8 2013, 05:17:38 PM
Fuck the haters Voulture is pretty damn good (he used to carry me and vax to victory)

tapa4

Omega Supreme
October 8 2013, 05:37:58 PM
ITT jealous Bronzies

Like 4 actively playing people on this thread aren't gold or higher, y'know.

XenosisReaper
October 8 2013, 05:46:50 PM
I am Gold MMR I promise, it's just my teams fault we always lose~

Voulture
October 8 2013, 06:05:39 PM
I don't think anyone is hating on me here, except for edna... but its just a though love relationship we got, also might be the fact that i carried him to gold last season and we both know he belong to bronze. No, seriously though, just wanted to play some rankeds to get elise skin and voile, had it in my placements and wanted to show it to you guys. :P Also, diamond here i come.

Zeekar
October 8 2013, 06:12:58 PM
Fuck the haters Voulture is pretty damn good (he used to carry me and vax to victory)

tapa4

Well unless he's watching friends on the other screen. :P

Zekk Pacus
October 8 2013, 06:13:51 PM
"elo hell doesn't exist"

*gets carried to gold in placement games*

And why was Voult getting matched with those players in his placement games?

Because his previous ranked MMR was high enough for it.

I find it HILARIOUS that certain people still believe that it's only 'getting carried to gold' that defines how good you are at ranked after 3 seasons and several chances to start from scratch in ranked.

Zeekar
October 8 2013, 06:18:09 PM
"elo hell doesn't exist"

*gets carried to gold in placement games*

And why was Voult getting matched with those players in his placement games?

Because his previous ranked MMR was high enough for it.

I find it HILARIOUS that certain people still believe that it's only 'getting carried to gold' that defines how good you are at ranked after 3 seasons and several chances to start from scratch in ranked.

There is no elo hell ( but there is a level where games feel like hell ). If you are better than the current rank you will slowly climb out of it. But it is a slow crawl out of it.

Grarr Dexx
October 8 2013, 07:13:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ESvecpk.jpg

no elo hell

Nicho Void
October 8 2013, 07:20:00 PM
You played jungle crank and are confused why you couldn't carry late game?

Grarr Dexx
October 8 2013, 07:22:23 PM
Pulling Cait, silencing Kayle ults, dealing more damage in a teamfight than anyone else on the team, and I wasn't carrying?

evil edna
October 8 2013, 08:06:39 PM
I don't think anyone is hating on me here, except for edna... but its just a though love relationship we got, also might be the fact that i carried him to gold last season and we both know he belong to bronze. No, seriously though, just wanted to play some rankeds to get elise skin and voile, had it in my placements and wanted to show it to you guys. :P Also, diamond here i come.


voults a trash player who only gets carried and is lucky, couldnt win a lane to save his life, cant even play warwick

Zekk Pacus
October 8 2013, 08:45:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ESvecpk.jpg

no elo hell

Caitlyn and Kayle are 100% not the problem on the enemy team in that game. Kayle is doing no damage with that build and is just a walking ultbot - Crank silence is 0.5 second so hardly gonna delay her ult worth talking about. You have both Zed and Olaf on your team so Caitlyn is not going to be able to kite and deal damage - Zed should've picked up a Randuin's but that's by the by, Caitlyn doesn't have many good ways of avoiding his combo. So Caitlyn is completely not the problem. Nor is Kayle aside from ult and you're not good for stopping a Kayle ult.

The problem on their team is Nocturne and Yorick - Noct has a ton of dmg with that Hydra and Yorick looks p.beefy, and you've got nobody on your team who can really peel. You've got two divers, one Sona who can ult, and zero peel for your Vayne. That's a teamcomp issue, you could've gone 20/0 as jungle Crank and it won't change shit.

But whatever, continue claiming that it's all because of 'elo hell'.

Omega Supreme
October 8 2013, 08:46:39 PM
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1417072

Clarification on the 5 of one champ mode, they're fixing it later this week to not be accessible. But nobody's gonna be banned for playing or hosting, and it's going to come out in November/December (at a guess, they said before the new year) as a fully fledged new game mode.

cullnean
October 8 2013, 08:58:40 PM
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1417072

Clarification on the 5 of one champ mode, they're fixing it later this week to not be accessible. But nobody's gonna be banned for playing or hosting, and it's going to come out in November/December (at a guess, they said before the new year) as a fully fledged new game mode.

5 ziggs all day every day or team tf gank squad

tapa4

Nobody_Holme
October 8 2013, 09:24:39 PM
ELO hell does exist, its just every single level there is.

The thing about moving up slowly (which is true, generally) is that if you play as many as one game in every ten while off the peak of your game, that will mean the other nine DONT make you move up the ranks.

Waagaa
October 8 2013, 10:15:46 PM
Hello el exist etc. Decided to play rankeds again, season ending, I want my skin right? JUst went through my placement games, was 1850 psr before it was hidden then gold 1 last season. According to lolnexus every single game from first one was versus gold/plat players. Never saw a silver or bronze, some unrankeds like me.

But but but, here is where you tell me "good job voult you are good" and i say humble thanks and stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/xz63HZI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tqf9lyJ.jpg

Congrats :)

Sadly enough, i got paired with a platinum smurf in silver the other day and he actually told me i played like a platinum thresh.
Elo hell does exist, your MMR did help you evade the real retards, then again, I didn't already invest another 2 seasons to climb out of the silver shit hole. :)

Voulture
October 8 2013, 10:35:08 PM
I don't think anyone is hating on me here, except for edna... but its just a though love relationship we got, also might be the fact that i carried him to gold last season and we both know he belong to bronze. No, seriously though, just wanted to play some rankeds to get elise skin and voile, had it in my placements and wanted to show it to you guys. :P Also, diamond here i come.


voults a trash player who only gets carried and is lucky, couldnt win a lane to save his life, cant even play warwick

Because warwick is too hard to play! Not like easy mode for noobs aka annie mid bitch.



Fuck the haters Voulture is pretty damn good (he used to carry me and vax to victory)

tapa4

Well unless he's watching friends on the other screen. :P

It's a beast show tbh, no reason not to watch it all the time!

@Waagaa - thanks :)

XenosisReaper
October 8 2013, 11:11:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs

MY DICK

Raxxman
October 9 2013, 12:38:41 AM
I don't think anyone is hating on me here, except for edna... but its just a though love relationship we got, also might be the fact that i carried him to gold last season and we both know he belong to bronze. No, seriously though, just wanted to play some rankeds to get elise skin and voile, had it in my placements and wanted to show it to you guys. :P Also, diamond here i come.


voults a trash player who only gets carried and is lucky, couldnt win a lane to save his life, cant even play warwick

Because warwick is too hard to play! Not like easy mode for noobs aka annie mid bitch.



Fuck the haters Voulture is pretty damn good (he used to carry me and vax to victory)

tapa4

Well unless he's watching friends on the other screen. :P

It's a beast show tbh, no reason not to watch it all the time!

@Waagaa - thanks :)

Voults good, sometimes his builds though...

Omega Supreme
October 9 2013, 01:36:56 AM
MY DICK

Somebody get him to the ER, he's gonna suffer priapism at this rate.

XenosisReaper
October 9 2013, 12:13:03 PM
So, Riot are planning on nerfing Ahri soon

Why.

What the shitting fuck are you doing you fucking mongloids, go nerf Fizz or Kassadin

Voulture
October 9 2013, 02:23:05 PM
So, how many counters does Ahri get? Any weak spots for her amazingly good skillset and retarded scape mechanics? I kinda see the Riot logic here. Also quote from Morello:


Ahri, Fizz, Zed and Kassadin all have problems in how fast they burst, and how little you can do about it. We'll be retaining their roles as Assassins (though I'd wager Ahri, using more poke to set up, is likely more a mage) but fitting patterns that cause a bit more risk and reaction when doing so.

So i guess all gonna get changed a bit?

Nicho Void
October 9 2013, 03:18:58 PM
AP Sion mid destroys assassin meta. True story.

Nicho Void
October 9 2013, 03:34:26 PM
The League subreddit is basically a pool of semen right now. Furious, furious masturbation over a video game character.

Voulture
October 9 2013, 03:41:55 PM
Yeah it's awful. Fuck Jinx... how do people sperge over this trailer and gifs and shit is beyond me...

Omega Supreme
October 9 2013, 03:43:23 PM
The League subreddit is basically a pool of semen right now. Furious, furious masturbation over a video game character.

And that's different from here, where we are furious, furious masturbation over unattainable women how?


Yeah it's awful. Fuck Jinx... how do people sperge over this trailer and gifs and shit is beyond me...

Don't look at me, I freely admit my love of hentai and such and look at Jinx and feel nothing.

People are strange in their tastes.

Raxxman
October 9 2013, 03:57:25 PM
Just had like the most perfect game as Vi.

Enemy jungler came to gank, flashed his bandage toss and just pulverised him, him and Zac try to tower dive and just get wasted, first blood double kill np np. First back is Phage, and I tower dive Zac at 6 for the 3rd kill of the game.

After that I'm just a raid boss, ended the game 18/0/9, was literally just zero fucks diving Cait, taking 3 ults (amumu, Zac, Lux), killing Cait and then Qing away. Ended up with 17k gold and the next enemy was on 10k

Vi is a great game winner.

XenosisReaper
October 9 2013, 04:04:43 PM
Just had like the most perfect game as Vi.

Enemy jungler came to gank, flashed his bandage toss and just pulverised him, him and Zac try to tower dive and just get wasted, first blood double kill np np. First back is Phage, and I tower dive Zac at 6 for the 3rd kill of the game.

After that I'm just a raid boss, ended the game 18/0/9, was literally just zero fucks diving Cait, taking 3 ults (amumu, Zac, Lux), killing Cait and then Qing away. Ended up with 17k gold and the next enemy was on 10k

Vi is a great game winner.

Vi is super snowbally but if you fall behind (counterjungled, fail a gank or something) it's a nightmare to become relevant again

Nicho Void
October 9 2013, 04:05:20 PM
The League subreddit is basically a pool of semen right now. Furious, furious masturbation over a video game character.
And that's different from here, where we are furious, furious masturbation over unattainable women how?
One is a real thing. Further clarification should not be required. If needed, seek actual female interaction.

It's also funny, because the same people who are chaffing their dicks to a bloody stump over a cartoon girl biting her lip (in a completely asexual manner, btw) are the same people who "demand" League be taken more seriously as a "sport". No no guys, you're totally right. This is super serious and ready for prime time television.

Raxxman
October 9 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Just had like the most perfect game as Vi.

Enemy jungler came to gank, flashed his bandage toss and just pulverised him, him and Zac try to tower dive and just get wasted, first blood double kill np np. First back is Phage, and I tower dive Zac at 6 for the 3rd kill of the game.

After that I'm just a raid boss, ended the game 18/0/9, was literally just zero fucks diving Cait, taking 3 ults (amumu, Zac, Lux), killing Cait and then Qing away. Ended up with 17k gold and the next enemy was on 10k

Vi is a great game winner.

Vi is super snowbally but if you fall behind (counterjungled, fail a gank or something) it's a nightmare to become relevant again

went vi top vs zac

Omega Supreme
October 9 2013, 04:15:51 PM
Damage build Vi is a glorious, glorious thing. Sadly I only get to do damage Vi when we have tank(s) already. :(

Omega Supreme
October 9 2013, 04:30:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN3OYwP8nHE

I like how he did the Vi reference in Jinx's movement quotes at the start.

Omega Supreme
October 10 2013, 12:17:14 AM
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=42089345#42089345

Jinx is coming during patch downtime for NA, Oceania has her by now and EUW tonight (NA time) too.

Grarr Dexx
October 10 2013, 01:43:19 AM
Ugh. After last night's fiasco by losing seven games in a row and going from promo to one game from demote, I pretty much shot right back up to the promo series and aced it this time. Four more Silvers to go. On a sidenote, Udyr is really fucking strong in lane and in the jungle, as both Tiger and Phoenix. I was winning trades against a Shen with a Chainmail with just Doran's and a Phage.

Omega Supreme
October 10 2013, 11:07:26 AM
NA servers are back up and the Jinx bans are undoubtedly flying. :razor:

Vortex
October 10 2013, 12:33:06 PM
Some interesting things to note about Jinx:

Hurricane's bolts carry over the fishbone explosive charge like the main attack does, allowing very tightly packed targets to to take the primary shot + the AoE of the secondary bolt(s). Very expensive for what you get, but its amusing to one shot a massive minion wave. Thematically at least, its kind of the "gun that shoots other guns" Jinx wants, so that's cool.

Sword of the divine might be a very strong late game pick up on her. Her fishbone attacks do 1.1AD to her target and everything in the blast radius, and for purposes of crits, the entire explosion either crits or it doesn't. Sword gives you 3x guaranteed, rapid-fire, AoE crits with 1.1 AD scaling. Combine with a disruptive AoE ult on your team (say, Unstoppable Force) and you'll fire off a barrage of veritable nukes into the enemy team.

While Fishbone shots do stack Tear, they don't proc sheen. Fishbone explosions only apply on-hit effects and lifesteal to her primary target. Muramana will sadly not proc on everything you hit, but you could positively dump your mana pool with pow pow if so desired.

Jinx can Jungle. The huge attack speed on pow pow gives her a decent clear and sustain rate (through LS runes), while fishbone can mop up any small minions without any issue at all. I'm not sure why you'd want to jungle her, but she does offer two CC moves on top of huuuuge damage output. Probably a very very high risk, high-snowball jungler if you can pull it off.


She is insanely fun with an amazing personality - I wish I could play ADC halfway decently :(

LoKiPP
October 10 2013, 05:25:59 PM
The League subreddit is basically a pool of semen right now. Furious, furious masturbation over a video game character.

Because Riot hyped her up? There is still massive hype after worlds? She looks mechanically amazing to play? Amazing lines? People are actually passionate about their hobby!?!?!?

While I didn't partake in any of it, your post is just as laughable as the circle jerk.

Nicho Void
October 10 2013, 05:52:51 PM
You are currently jacking it to Jinx, C/D?

Zeekar
October 10 2013, 05:58:26 PM
You are currently jacking it to Jinx, C/D?

You are currently more retarded than usual?

C/C?

Nicho Void
October 10 2013, 06:02:56 PM
Sickburn, m8.

XenosisReaper
October 10 2013, 06:03:36 PM
You are currently jacking it to Jinx, C/D?

You are currently more retarded than usual?

C/C?

I'm not sure you can be more than 100% retarded

LoKiPP
October 10 2013, 06:36:58 PM
You are currently jacking it to Jinx, C/D?

I'm so damn excited about her that I haven't even bought her yet :shock:

http://i.imgur.com/uNh8SxI.png

Omega Supreme
October 10 2013, 06:39:48 PM
You are currently jacking it to Jinx, C/D?

I'm so damn excited about her that I haven't even bought her yet :shock:

http://i.imgur.com/uNh8SxI.png

Hehe 8400 IP.

Poorfags here.

XenosisReaper
October 10 2013, 06:48:59 PM
I'm IRL upset about Ahri getting nerfed

She's not that stronk, and she basically relies on people being greedy fucks and/or not going back fast enough

Then again, I've mained her since she came out, back when the meta was to build a fucking Will of the Ancients on her, so ;_;

Nobody_Holme
October 10 2013, 07:25:39 PM
I'm IRL upset about Ahri getting nerfed

She's not that stronk, and she basically relies on people being greedy fucks and/or not going back fast enough

Then again, I've mained her since she came out, back when the meta was to build a fucking Will of the Ancients on her, so ;_;

Shes got that taunt, which makes her deceptively strong, and she is VERY hard to pin down. Her entire skillset means she'll always be good, same as kass', you cant just nerf her and expect her to be weaker, she'll either be OP against morons, or helpless. Her numbers dont need a reduction (unless they snuck in a buff while I've been not playing).

QuackBot
October 10 2013, 08:00:12 PM
Damage build Vi is a glorious, glorious thing. Sadly I only get to do damage Vi when we have tank(s) already. :(
In. Where do i get.

Irion
October 10 2013, 10:31:46 PM
So jinx looks suitably balanced for a new champ, Chaox just did back to back penta's with her.

Omega Supreme
October 10 2013, 10:37:10 PM
I'm now a true believer of AD J4 jungle. Fuck tank J4, roll upto lane, Q+E+R ADC, dead ADC every time.

Also http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25954-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-10-10-13-xerath-and

Xerath, Heimer reworks on PBE. AHri nerfs have hit PBE, her E got changed to be a mini-DFG in that enemies hit take 20% magic damage but she has higher mana costs and lower ratios.

Leona also got a buff, 100 flat mana cost on ult at all ranks now.

Also that Morgana buff. Loses MR shred but gains scaling at 3% of missing HP of targets affected. Holy shit yes.

Grarr Dexx
October 10 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Gank J4 is fun but if you build that shit and the game goes south suddenly, you're just a melee AD carry without the ability to oneshot anything. You are much safer building tank, and even then J4 has good damage output.

Omega Supreme
October 10 2013, 10:49:09 PM
Gank J4 is fun but if you build that shit and the game goes south suddenly, you're just a melee AD carry without the ability to oneshot anything. You are much safer building tank, and even then J4 has good damage output.

I still build a couple of tank items, atm I think rand + visage on top of hydra, elder liz, BC and treads are the go to for damage J4.

Debating replacing BC with LW for maximum ass clownery.

Omega Supreme
October 11 2013, 01:51:24 AM
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/10/plan-for-vintage-limited-edition-skins.html#more

Riot found a solution to pre-2011 limited skins: Open them up for sale once again while compensating pre-2011 skin owners RP.

The skins will be available at different times of the year, this month we will see:


Mundo Mundo
Pumpkinhead Fiddlesticks
Kitty Cat Katarina
Lollipoppy
Zombie Ryze
Nosferatu Vladimir
FrankenTibbers Annie
Definitely Not Blitzcrank
Bewitching Nidalee
Haunting Nocturne

At Christmas, we will see:


Snow Bunny Nidalee
Workshop Nunu
Happy Elf Teemo
Earnest Elf Tristana
Old Saint Zilean
Re-Gifted Amumu
Santa Gragas
Reindeer Kog’Maw
Candy Cane Miss Fortune
Ragdoll Poppy
Nutcracko
Silent Night Sona

At February 2014:


Vancouver Amumu
Team Spirit Anivia
Ice Toboggan Corki
Union Jack Fiddlesticks
The Mighty Jax
Festival Kassadin
Whistler Village Twitch
Curling Veigar

And finally June 2014:


All-Star Akali
Goalkeeper Blitzcrank
Striker Ezreal
Red Card Katarina"

I Legionnaire
October 11 2013, 03:05:35 AM
FrankenTibbers Annie

my dick

Nicho Void
October 11 2013, 03:23:46 AM
Pumpkinhead Fiddlesticks

my dick

Voulture
October 11 2013, 06:07:06 AM
Regifted Amummu skin is amazing just saying.

Surveyor
October 11 2013, 06:42:34 AM
SHame they do this after i decided to not spend any money on lol till they get EUW sorted out :(

XenosisReaper
October 11 2013, 10:09:12 AM
>Kitty Cat Katarina

Yes.

YES.

FINALLY.

Omega Supreme
October 11 2013, 11:21:59 AM
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/10/1010-pbe-update.html

Better sorting of the 10/10 PBE patch notes. Loading screen borders for ranked ratings, Halloween icons coming, etc.

QuackBot
October 11 2013, 12:00:12 PM
>Kitty Cat Katarina

Yes.

YES.

FINALLY.
The size of the average american suv at hypersonic speed? Yes. Yes. Finally.

SAI Peregrinus
October 11 2013, 06:19:09 PM
>Kitty Cat Katarina

Yes.

YES.

FINALLY.
The size of the average american suv at hypersonic speed? Yes. Yes. Finally.

Quackbot is now regularly more coherent than Lusulpher.

Omega Supreme
October 11 2013, 06:23:10 PM
You act like that's hard to do.

SAI Peregrinus
October 11 2013, 06:46:35 PM
It's not hard, just interesting to see how it's happened.

Omega Supreme
October 11 2013, 06:49:52 PM
You think we can get it published in Popular Science though?

Or is this something we take over to MIT for them to recreate?

Omega Supreme
October 11 2013, 11:32:32 PM
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25979-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-10-11-2013-sivir-vu

Sivir VU on PBE now. She's also got a kit rework:




Base Damage: 52 (+3 per level) (Up from 51.9(+2.9 per level)
On the Hunt [ R ] - Passive: Sivir gains 40/60/80% Attack Speed while Ricochet is active.
On the Hunt [ R ] - Active: Sivir rallies her allies for 6 seconds, granting all nearby allies an initial 60% Movement Speed bonus that reduces to 20% after 3 seconds.
On the Hunt [ R ] - Now costs 0 (Down from 100 Mana)
On the Hunt [ R ] - Cooldown is now 80/70/60 (down from 100/90/80)
Ricochet [ W ] - Sivir's next 3 basic attacks bounce to nearby targets, dealing 1*AD physical damage to the first target and physical damage to each subsequent target.
Ricochet [ W ] - Added to the tooltip: 'Only the first target is affected by on-hit effects. Each target may only be hit once by each Ricochet.'
Ricochet [ W ] - Cooldown is now 10/9/8/7/6 Seconds (Up from 7/6/5/4/3)
Spell Shield [ E ] - If an ability is blocked by the shield, Sivir regains 60/70/80/90/100 Mana (Down from 150 Mana)
Spell Shield [ E ] - Now costs 0 (Down from 75 Mana)


Aatrox nerfs, Olaf buffs as well.

Grarr Dexx
October 12 2013, 01:11:06 AM
Maybe I should just stick to Renekton. I've had six ranked games with him, and I've won all with such a monstrous lead.

Grarr Dexx
October 12 2013, 01:12:02 AM
also, sivir is not going to see any play time as long as she has that abysmal attack range

Omega Supreme
October 12 2013, 01:32:32 AM
Maybe I should just stick to Renekton. I've had six ranked games with him, and I've won all with such a monstrous lead.

I've been playing Tryn again. It feels dirty as fuck but honestly soloq deserves getting Tryn up their asses, never dying, always permapushing.

Lilalaunebör
October 12 2013, 02:41:23 AM
So is anyone still playing this on EUW? Logged in after months of absence, but all i have the drive for is ARAM or Domi with randoms atm.
Also champs released while i wasnt looking all seem shit. Jinx = Kog, Lucian = Ez, Atrox = Trynd? Only Lissandra looks even remotely novel.

e: And im baaaaaad, as in playing like im an 8 year old who just bought the account. No fun when you know you could do so much better.

Voulture
October 12 2013, 09:08:41 AM
Yes we still do play on EUW and we still do log into scrapheap channel. If you want ARAMs bob will be delighted to hear that, i am playing some ARAMs from time to time to.

XenosisReaper
October 12 2013, 02:22:22 PM
So is anyone still playing this on EUW? Logged in after months of absence, but all i have the drive for is ARAM or Domi with randoms atm.
Also champs released while i wasnt looking all seem shit. Jinx = Kog, Lucian = Ez, Atrox = Trynd? Only Lissandra looks even remotely novel.

e: And im baaaaaad, as in playing like im an 8 year old who just bought the account. No fun when you know you could do so much better.

>lets call new champions shit while I haven't played them
>Lucian = Ez

u wot m8?

SAI Peregrinus
October 12 2013, 02:51:54 PM
So is anyone still playing this on EUW? Logged in after months of absence, but all i have the drive for is ARAM or Domi with randoms atm.
Also champs released while i wasnt looking all seem shit. Jinx = Kog, Lucian = Ez, Atrox = Trynd? Only Lissandra looks even remotely novel.

e: And im baaaaaad, as in playing like im an 8 year old who just bought the account. No fun when you know you could do so much better.

>lets call new champions shit while I haven't played them
>Lucian = Ez

u wot m8?

He just used the wrong comparison operators.
Jinx > Kog, Lucian < Ez, Aatrox > Trynd.

While the kit differences may seem small when you read their abilities you'll find they're all very different in playstyle.

QuackBot
October 12 2013, 04:00:09 PM
>lets call new champions shit while I haven't played them
>Lucian = Ez

u wot m8?
M8 i am the new downs.

Voulture
October 12 2013, 04:24:11 PM
Lucian is super underrated, just saying.
On the other hand, bought Jinx, very fun to play, probably strong too. Not op though.

Lilalaunebör
October 12 2013, 04:54:04 PM
So is anyone still playing this on EUW? Logged in after months of absence, but all i have the drive for is ARAM or Domi with randoms atm.
Also champs released while i wasnt looking all seem shit. Jinx = Kog, Lucian = Ez, Atrox = Trynd? Only Lissandra looks even remotely novel.

e: And im baaaaaad, as in playing like im an 8 year old who just bought the account. No fun when you know you could do so much better.

>lets call new champions shit while I haven't played them
>Lucian = Ez

u wot m8?

Did you see the question mark? Just my first impression from glancing over their kits.

SAI Peregrinus
October 12 2013, 05:44:43 PM
So is anyone still playing this on EUW? Logged in after months of absence, but all i have the drive for is ARAM or Domi with randoms atm.
Also champs released while i wasnt looking all seem shit. Jinx = Kog, Lucian = Ez, Atrox = Trynd? Only Lissandra looks even remotely novel.

e: And im baaaaaad, as in playing like im an 8 year old who just bought the account. No fun when you know you could do so much better.

>lets call new champions shit while I haven't played them
>Lucian = Ez

u wot m8?

Did you see the question mark? Just my first impression from glancing over their kits.

Lucian is more like Graves than Ez. Sort of a Graves MF Ez hybrid.
Jinx is like a Draven Cait Kog thing.
Aatrox is a lot like Trynd, but with a better jump (it has a knockup) a better ult, no slow, and a generally very different feel.

Omega Supreme
October 12 2013, 06:22:53 PM
That's an insult to MF to say Lucian is like anything like her, given how ungodly shit his ultimate is.

XenosisReaper
October 12 2013, 06:36:37 PM
http://onebit.us/x/i/slpC4rvvw8.png

So uh, just won a game 3v5 from about 8 minutes in (we three were premade), we baceraced until neither nexus had towers and then we died

Came back, me and sona got caught mid and died because lol lissandra, then rengar backdoored and killed their nexus.

We got called faggots a lot in chat after, which was fun

Omega Supreme
October 12 2013, 10:14:31 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1oapfr/its_not_about_ahris_damage/

The tears of many a fox player.

They are glorious.

XenosisReaper
October 12 2013, 10:25:02 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1oapfr/its_not_about_ahris_damage/

The tears of many a fox player.

They are glorious.

Her nerf is hilariously over the top

She didn't even have a high winrate

Omega Supreme
October 12 2013, 10:34:03 PM
Well tbh it'll only be over the top if Kass, Fizz and Zed aren't nerfed hard as well. Those three are far worse. Not saying Ahri doesn't have issues that need addressing, just Kassadin has been a consistent problem for years now while Fizz and Zed are rising in annoyance.

XenosisReaper
October 12 2013, 10:37:12 PM
Well tbh it'll only be over the top if Kass, Fizz and Zed aren't nerfed hard as well. Those three are far worse. Not saying Ahri doesn't have issues that need addressing, just Kassadin has been a consistent problem for years now while Fizz and Zed are rising in annoyance.

I know, I'm just annoyed that Ahri hasn't had a buff all season and she's suddenly (within the past 3 weeks) become FOTM so they have to nerf her

SAI Peregrinus
October 12 2013, 11:09:03 PM
The problem with assassins is counterplay.

The sole purpose of an assassin is to get to and kill a target of choice.
If you can counterplay that significantly the assassin is useless. If the assassin is useful the target is dead, and can't counterplay anymore.

If Riot wants to focus on counterplay we can expect significant nerfs to assassins.

Raxxman
October 12 2013, 11:12:56 PM
Well tbh it'll only be over the top if Kass, Fizz and Zed aren't nerfed hard as well. Those three are far worse. Not saying Ahri doesn't have issues that need addressing, just Kassadin has been a consistent problem for years now while Fizz and Zed are rising in annoyance.

A good chunk of Fizz and Zeds damage can be mitigated by Zhonas.

Kass is just a bitch, interesting champ design but a short term tele, plus a nuke/silence and a nuke/slow is overpowered as a concept.

Omega Supreme
October 13 2013, 12:00:14 AM
Riot backpedaling over the Ahri changes: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=42175017#post42175017



back to talking about ahri, if you've been following the thread you've probably noticed that i've started a list of things i want to change for the next pbe update. here's a quick summary of those items plus a few others:

fox-fire
-revert the change to spell type (i.e., gets full effect from rylai's again) and update the tooltip
-slight reduction in mana cost
charm
-damage amp now works with the true damage from orb of deception
-slight reduction in mana cost
spirit rush
-revert the change to the timer (i.e., up to 10 seconds again)
-add a visual effect that shows when ahri has at least one stack of spirit rush (i.e., vfx turn on after using 1st dash, turn off after 3rd dash or the spell times out)

Grarr Dexx
October 13 2013, 01:29:23 AM
Had two back to back games with renekton where I was dominating my lanes against unlikely picks, still doing great in teamfights but in both games I got completely hamstrung by the other lanes completely failing. Quick end to my silver 3 promo series, but I won the first game right after and I'm already back to 94 points. I understand now that screaming bloody murder during a loss is entirely pointless and losing games will happen anyways. I'll just keep trucking on since my overall score keeps going up, eventually I'll get out of this placement game problematic zone and into the 'people understand how not to lose their lane 0/8 by 10 minutes' zone. I don't care if I lose games, since I'm the one improving here, even if my score isn't doing that.

Nobody_Holme
October 13 2013, 09:08:35 AM
Had two back to back games with renekton where I was dominating my lanes against unlikely picks, still doing great in teamfights but in both games I got completely hamstrung by the other lanes completely failing. Quick end to my silver 3 promo series, but I won the first game right after and I'm already back to 94 points. I understand now that screaming bloody murder during a loss is entirely pointless and losing games will happen anyways. I'll just keep trucking on since my overall score keeps going up, eventually I'll get out of this placement game problematic zone and into the 'people understand how not to lose their lane 0/8 by 10 minutes' zone. I don't care if I lose games, since I'm the one improving here, even if my score isn't doing that.

I dont think you realise how long the "not lose lane 0/8 by 10 minutes" zone is...

El Capitano
October 13 2013, 12:12:46 PM
I just had that sort of game where Malphite fed Riven for the first 30 minutes (yup, he didn't leave lane for half an hour). I was Sona supporting Jinx who was thankfully really good so I just built to protect Jinx and we carried the game eventually.

XenosisReaper
October 13 2013, 12:16:59 PM
Got a quadra kill with Jinx the second time I played her, enemy team got low and once I got the first kill I just mopped with with my passive as they ran away

Grarr Dexx
October 13 2013, 12:20:01 PM
That's the good zone. If my lanes don't collapse early, I can try to make all the plays I can against non-fed teams.

Omega Supreme
October 13 2013, 12:46:58 PM
I just had that sort of game where Malphite fed Riven for the first 30 minutes (yup, he didn't leave lane for half an hour). I was Sona supporting Jinx who was thankfully really good so I just built to protect Jinx and we carried the game eventually.

I've been seeing Malphs feeding Riven lately, what gives? Like...isn't that one of her shittiest matchups ever?

XenosisReaper
October 13 2013, 12:53:42 PM
I just had that sort of game where Malphite fed Riven for the first 30 minutes (yup, he didn't leave lane for half an hour). I was Sona supporting Jinx who was thankfully really good so I just built to protect Jinx and we carried the game eventually.

I've been seeing Malphs feeding Riven lately, what gives? Like...isn't that one of her shittiest matchups ever?

Huh? Riven should molest Malphite early game, once he gets armor items he'll be fine though.

Omega Supreme
October 13 2013, 12:55:03 PM
That's what I'm talking about. Malphite is known to do nothing but stack armor. If Riven can't kill him before his first back, she shouldn't be able to without jungle ganks.

What confuses me is how Malphs with armor are still feeding Rivens.

XenosisReaper
October 13 2013, 12:56:50 PM
That's what I'm talking about. Malphite is known to do nothing but stack armor. If Riven can't kill him before his first back, she shouldn't be able to without jungle ganks.

What confuses me is how Malphs with armor are still feeding Rivens.

Meh, I haven't played the matchup in ages, I'm thinking that Riven should be able to bully Malphite for quite a while assuming they stay even on CS (but they won't stay even on CS because Riven will be outfarming him)

Grarr Dexx
October 13 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Malphite doesn't have a lot of innate sustain short of his shield, which Riven should be able to prevent him from keeping up.

El Capitano
October 13 2013, 06:00:10 PM
I wonder if it's that Malphite's dropped off the ban-or-pick list for a lot of people so he's getting picked by people who then think it'll carry them, only to find it doesn't.

In other news, finally broke through the promos to Silver 1, despite the terrible Malphite. I've got about 2 and a half weeks to make it to Gold 5, it's going to be tight!

I Legionnaire
October 13 2013, 09:17:33 PM
Oh my god, Udyr is a fucking monster in soloq. I do boots 4pot start, rush phage, kindle, then build triforce, SOTAG , and end with Hydra or Randuin's.

edit: I don't think Malph is particularly ban-worthy when you can ban out ahri and kass.

Omega Supreme
October 13 2013, 09:36:52 PM
If Malph is firstpick or ban, chances are you're in the deepest depths of elo hell.

El Capitano
October 13 2013, 09:48:33 PM
If Malph is firstpick or ban, chances are you're in the deepest depths of elo hell.
Malphite spent plenty of time on ban lists, even for good players.

Omega Supreme
October 13 2013, 10:05:36 PM
But Bronzodia, man.

Nicho Void
October 13 2013, 10:16:18 PM
Malph is shit tier.

I Legionnaire
October 13 2013, 11:20:33 PM
http://youtu.be/xIABptrUbm8

hnnnngg

Bielz
October 14 2013, 04:48:12 AM
That potential morgana buff makes me hard.

Vortex
October 14 2013, 11:23:21 AM
PLATINUM

Fuck that feels good. Took 4 series due to endless trolls and terrible teams, but I'm finally on the other side of the wall!

Grarr Dexx
October 14 2013, 01:53:19 PM
this just in

Voulture (3:52): (its true i am getting carried a lot)
Explosion (3:52): can't fool me
Voulture (3:52): but dont tell people

Voulture
October 14 2013, 01:58:55 PM
Fuck now eeryone knows

Omega Supreme
October 14 2013, 02:42:40 PM
Drama bombs going off over in Team Curse Land. Aphro and Pobelter both kicked within a week of being announced.

Pobelter's case was that going to school, getting an education in case being a pro gamer didn't work out was too much for Curse, so he had to go.

No reason known for Aphro being booted for Cop.

Assuming it's not all an elaborate troll.

Voulture
October 14 2013, 02:54:31 PM
PLATINUM

Fuck that feels good. Took 4 series due to endless trolls and terrible teams, but I'm finally on the other side of the wall!

Congrats, i am 2 wins to my promo plat series, gonna tryhard and maybe i will join your rank too ;]
You are the only one from fhc usa side with plat aren't you?

QuackBot
October 14 2013, 04:00:10 PM
That potential morgana buff makes me hard.
It makes a lot of sense to me that a board which caters to pony faggots also has an autistic chat bot.

Omega Supreme
October 14 2013, 04:09:42 PM
That potential morgana buff makes me hard.
It makes a lot of sense to me that a board which caters to pony faggots also has an autistic chat bot.

Cool, now even QuackBot is remarking about Lusulpher.

In other news, EUW lag has hilarious results: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ofckk/euw_spawning_super_minions_randomly/

Omega Supreme
October 15 2013, 02:58:56 AM
https://twitter.com/stevemz/status/389931161293578240

Special skins will be made for the champs that SKT won Worlds with. As a reminder, that'd be Zyra, Jarvan IV, Gragas, Corki and Jax.

QuackBot
October 15 2013, 04:00:13 AM
Cool, now even QuackBot is remarking about Lusulpher.

In other news, EUW lag has hilarious results: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ofckk/euw_spawning_super_minions_randomly/
In is the last one to vote is a bit fucked.

Voulture
October 15 2013, 08:48:07 AM
Never had this before, so fun, was chasing rengar for this kill for like 2 minutes around whole map :D Anyway, khazix top is amazing. You just can't play him mid anymore cause he can't push early at all. Like before you could max W and evol it at 6 for amazing harass and lane control. You lose the push power till you get hydra now. No point maxing W then, just get 1 lvl early. You just max Q, evol it at 6, then evol wing and max them at 11. Hydra, brut, lw, cleaver, omen ga should be full build. Sunfire might be good too. Still amazing champion and now with hydra his 1v1 push power and solo power are just retarded.

Anyway:

http://i.imgur.com/RbkzRhr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bqCSyUb.jpg

4 evolutions ;3

XenosisReaper
October 15 2013, 09:52:49 AM
Never had this before, so fun, was chasing rengar for this kill for like 2 minutes around whole map :D Anyway, khazix top is amazing. You just can't play him mid anymore cause he can't push early at all. Like before you could max W and evol it at 6 for amazing harass and lane control. You lose the push power till you get hydra now. No point maxing W then, just get 1 lvl early. You just max Q, evol it at 6, then evol wing and max them at 11. Hydra, brut, lw, cleaver, omen ga should be full build. Sunfire might be good too. Still amazing champion and now with hydra his 1v1 push power and solo power are just retarded.

Anyway:

http://i.imgur.com/RbkzRhr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bqCSyUb.jpg

4 evolutions ;3

His level 1 damage with Q is hilarious, I've taken squishy toplaners to half HP with a Q and an AA before

edit: I normally get CDR boots because lol

Lex Fasces
October 15 2013, 01:42:38 PM
first time i laned against a khazix was as elise. we were both top. i was chilliing near my tower after protecting red. i go to get some cs and he comes out of bush behind me (only lsightly though) and gets his passive slow and a Q + ignite and an auto on me. instagibbed at level 1.

p impressive tbh

Voulture
October 15 2013, 06:41:43 PM
Team builder incoming? AKA role queue

http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/October_2013/TBDP/EN.jpg

http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345&posted=1#post13575345


Hello Summoners!

Lyte here, and in this post I’m excited to talk with you about Team Builder, a new feature coming to PBE in the near future where you can queue up for a specific role, champion and position and get connected with four teammates that also preselected their preferred role. The goal is to build a balanced team where everyone’s in agreement on where they’re going and what they’re playing, and in doing so help lay the foundation for good teamwork.

How often have you logged on to League of Legends and thought, “I just want to play Renekton today.” Or maybe you want to try a new strategy but can’t find four friends to premade with. We’re always asking how we can make the League of Legends experience better, and one thing that comes up a lot is how players want to feel like they’re in control of their pre-game experience.

Good teamwork doesn’t just start when the minions spawn or at the first big teamfight. It starts in champion select. Champion select sets the tone of the game and greatly impacts whether you feel like you’re going to have a fun match. So we asked ourselves: what’s the ideal champion select? And how can we improve this process so it happens more often?

An ideal champ select is one where all five players get their preferred role and feel like they’re all on the same page for the upcoming match. The current matchmaking does a good job of matching up players of similar overall skill levels, but doesn’t have any way to know what a player’s intentions for a given game are. Sometimes things work out perfectly and everyone gets the champion and role they wanted without a hitch. But if multiple players are looking to play the same role or lane, a consensus has to be built in a relatively short period of time. That’s time that could be used to get to know each other, agree on a strategy and build confidence that it’s going to be a fun match.

Team Builder is intended to bring players together that complement each other’s expectations and intentions from the moment they enter the lobby. When everyone’s aligned on who will be going where and playing what, the only thing left to figure out is how to dominate the opposition.

Once we had a model for how Team Builder would bring players together, we started looking at matchmaking and how we could evolve it to help further enable good games. One of the most important things for a team’s enjoyment is making sure that they’re matched against similarly skilled players.

With Team Builder we’ll also be rolling out a smarter matchmaking system that can dynamically account for your experience with a given role, position or champion. First time playing Ahri? Learning how to be a solid Marksman? Venturing into the jungle for the first time? Team Builder’s matchmaking will take all of these factors into account. .

Our goal for Team Builder is to bring players together and build better teams. Because good teams win more games, make bigger plays, and most importantly, have more fun.

To us, that’s exciting, and we’re looking forward to your feedback. See you in Team Builder,

Lyte

Omega Supreme
October 15 2013, 06:46:06 PM
It'll never work. Nobody wants to fucking play support!

Although I'm hoping it does, in order to cut out a lot of bullshit that's champ select.

Edit:

http://tr.leagueoflegends.com/tr/news/champions-skins/skin-preview/deniz-ufkunda-bu-top-sesleri-nereden-geliyor

New Gangplank skin coming! Turkish server release skin.

Zeekar
October 15 2013, 06:56:53 PM
It'll never work. Nobody wants to fucking play support!

Although I'm hoping it does, in order to cut out a lot of bullshit that's champ select.

Edit:

http://tr.leagueoflegends.com/tr/news/champions-skins/skin-preview/deniz-ufkunda-bu-top-sesleri-nereden-geliyor

New Gangplank skin coming! Turkish server release skin.

I used to love to play support. Just saying. All though I stopped because voult kept calling me a bad.

Nicho Void
October 15 2013, 07:24:19 PM
I would main support.

Omega Supreme
October 15 2013, 08:25:43 PM
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/10/1015-pbe-update.html

Victorious Elise model now on PBE. New Nocturne splash. New Vi skin incoming. Retro League login screen.

Grarr Dexx
October 15 2013, 08:34:58 PM
Good on the Tryndamere change. He really didn't need that nerf.

Omega Supreme
October 15 2013, 08:47:26 PM
Good on the Tryndamere change. He really didn't need that nerf.

He needs nerfs, just not there. That more or less killed jungle Tryn if it went in as was.

Surveyor
October 16 2013, 07:57:03 AM
It'll never work. Nobody wants to fucking play support!

Although I'm hoping it does, in order to cut out a lot of bullshit that's champ select.

Edit:

http://tr.leagueoflegends.com/tr/news/champions-skins/skin-preview/deniz-ufkunda-bu-top-sesleri-nereden-geliyor

New Gangplank skin coming! Turkish server release skin.


i main support. thank you for saving me from all the bads that just want to fuck others (aka their team).

XenosisReaper
October 16 2013, 09:26:31 AM
You haven't seen toxic until you've had 3 people call support in ranked.

Man, supports can be nasty.

In other news, Jinx is hilariously broken early/midgame, I'm on a 9 win streak with her (duoqueue with a support mate)

Nobody_Holme
October 16 2013, 12:15:11 PM
I'd swear they said they wouldnt do this within the last year because they didnt want to ENFORCE THE META.

Fuck you, riot, fuck you.
Really tempted to wait for this to release then specifically troll myself into a permaban by queuing for stuff and then playing something else (queue as support, play roaming eve, for example). Alternatively, play dumb shit that kinda works a bit like support cho all day every day.

Omega Supreme
October 16 2013, 12:17:03 PM
Gold 4. VICTORY AT LAST. Fuck the sandtrap.

Zeekar
October 16 2013, 12:23:36 PM
I'd swear they said they wouldnt do this within the last year because they didnt want to ENFORCE THE META.

Fuck you, riot, fuck you.
Really tempted to wait for this to release then specifically troll myself into a permaban by queuing for stuff and then playing something else (queue as support, play roaming eve, for example). Alternatively, play dumb shit that kinda works a bit like support cho all day every day.

RIOT balancing enforces the meta. Every single nerf / buff of theirs enforces the meta. Why do you think the game is so stale?

Nobody_Holme
October 16 2013, 12:25:18 PM
I'd swear they said they wouldnt do this within the last year because they didnt want to ENFORCE THE META.

Fuck you, riot, fuck you.
Really tempted to wait for this to release then specifically troll myself into a permaban by queuing for stuff and then playing something else (queue as support, play roaming eve, for example). Alternatively, play dumb shit that kinda works a bit like support cho all day every day.

RIOT balancing enforces the meta. Every single nerf / buff of theirs enforces the meta. Why do you think the game is so stale?

I do get that part, its the going back on something they said they wouldnt do because of a truly fucking appaling reason that gets to me. My bad.

Voulture
October 16 2013, 01:27:36 PM
Won 4 rankeds in a row, gained 33 lp. FML

XenosisReaper
October 16 2013, 01:39:07 PM
I'd swear they said they wouldnt do this within the last year because they didnt want to ENFORCE THE META.

Fuck you, riot, fuck you.
Really tempted to wait for this to release then specifically troll myself into a permaban by queuing for stuff and then playing something else (queue as support, play roaming eve, for example). Alternatively, play dumb shit that kinda works a bit like support cho all day every day.

Did you actually read the full post and their followup comment where they explained why this won't hurt the meta?

FourFiftyFour
October 16 2013, 02:29:49 PM
8 game ranked winning streak. I think I can make it out of bronze.


Question though.

If I'm getting 20lp per win or so what does that say about my MMR?

Omega Supreme
October 16 2013, 02:33:43 PM
8 game ranked winning streak. I think I can make it out of bronze.


Question though.

If I'm getting 20lp per win or so what does that say about my MMR?

Your MMR is fucking great and you'll only get LP clamped in bronze 1. You may just make it out.

Zeekar
October 16 2013, 04:35:14 PM
I'd swear they said they wouldnt do this within the last year because they didnt want to ENFORCE THE META.

Fuck you, riot, fuck you.
Really tempted to wait for this to release then specifically troll myself into a permaban by queuing for stuff and then playing something else (queue as support, play roaming eve, for example). Alternatively, play dumb shit that kinda works a bit like support cho all day every day.

Did you actually read the full post and their followup comment where they explained why this won't hurt the meta?

Thats his point. It wont hurt the meta it will enforce it even more. Which is retarded.

FourFiftyFour
October 16 2013, 05:29:46 PM
I'd swear they said they wouldnt do this within the last year because they didnt want to ENFORCE THE META.

Fuck you, riot, fuck you.
Really tempted to wait for this to release then specifically troll myself into a permaban by queuing for stuff and then playing something else (queue as support, play roaming eve, for example). Alternatively, play dumb shit that kinda works a bit like support cho all day every day.

Did you actually read the full post and their followup comment where they explained why this won't hurt the meta?

Thats his point. It wont hurt the meta it will enforce it even more. Which is retarded.

No it won't. It's designed to allow for wacky setups as well as the current meta.

Double jungle? You can do that. 2 man mid? You can do that. Kill lane bot? You can do that.

Nobody_Holme
October 16 2013, 05:45:02 PM
No you cant, because no one will accept a queue with those wacky comps in it. Also, what if you want to do a comp the game doesnt understand like that 5-mid heimer push thing that is somewhere in this thread, for example?

Grarr Dexx
October 16 2013, 05:46:07 PM
8 game ranked winning streak. I think I can make it out of bronze.


Question though.

If I'm getting 20lp per win or so what does that say about my MMR?

Your MMR is fucking great and you'll only get LP clamped in bronze 1. You may just make it out.

So if I'm making 25+ LP per game in silver 4 that means I'm doing good?

Omega Supreme
October 16 2013, 06:06:20 PM
8 game ranked winning streak. I think I can make it out of bronze.


Question though.

If I'm getting 20lp per win or so what does that say about my MMR?

Your MMR is fucking great and you'll only get LP clamped in bronze 1. You may just make it out.

So if I'm making 25+ LP per game in silver 4 that means I'm doing good?

From what I understand of MMR, yes. You'll get clamped in div 1's, but I'm getting +18 now per win in gold 4. If I keep winning games more than I lose, it'll probably go to 20-30+ per win.

El Capitano
October 16 2013, 06:14:24 PM
I got around 20-25 per win in Silver 2, now getting 9 in Silver 1, for comparison.

Nicho Void
October 16 2013, 06:14:34 PM
No you cant, because no one will accept a queue with those wacky comps in it. Also, what if you want to do a comp the game doesnt understand like that 5-mid heimer push thing that is somewhere in this thread, for example?
Good. Fuck your meta breaking shit.

Omega Supreme
October 16 2013, 06:16:45 PM
The Harrowing approaches
By RiotWenceslaus

The sun sets and darkness creeps in, candlelight flickers and fires burn out. The Harrowing is nearly upon us. Whether exploring an old tomb or getting decked out to deck some criminals, terrifying and surprising storytelling comes alive with new skins for Zyra and Vi. Haunted Zyra and Officer Vi headline a cast that includes all of the former Harrowing skins. As announced last Thursday, skins that were previously categorized as Limited Edition are now legacy and will also be retrieved from the vault.

Here's the list of all of the legacy skins that'll be available this Harrowing:

Mundo Mundo
Pumpkinhead Fiddlesticks
Kitty Cat Katarina
Zombie Ryze
Lollipoppy
Nosferatu Vladimir
FrankenTibbers Annie
Definitely Not Blitzcrank
Bewitching Nidalee
Haunting Nocturne
Headless Hecarim
Haunted Maokai
Underworld Twisted Fate
Headmistress Fiora
Pirate Ryze
Zombie Brand

But the Harrowing is more than just dressing up and terrifying your foes, we're also bringing back all five Harrowing ward skins and unveiling five new summoner icons to earn throughout the event. And it wouldn't be the Harrowing without another mystery or two. This year, it's the debut of mystery gifting. When you give a mystery gift, your purchase unlocks a random skin for a champion your friend owns. All skins in the store plus a selection of legacy skins are fair game, so your friend could end up with a legendary or even ultimate skin!

The Harrowing launches in an upcoming patch, so check back with leagueoflegends.com for more information about the event and we'll see you on the battlefields!

Edit: Tl,dr; Halloween skins from 2009 to now are available again next patch. 2013 skins are Officer Vi and Haunted Zyra.

Zeekar
October 16 2013, 06:57:17 PM
No you cant, because no one will accept a queue with those wacky comps in it. Also, what if you want to do a comp the game doesnt understand like that 5-mid heimer push thing that is somewhere in this thread, for example?
Good. Fuck your meta breaking shit.

Heh. You're the cancer of LOL.

Omega Supreme
October 16 2013, 08:41:48 PM
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/10/1016-pbe-update.html

Graveyard Zyra on PBE now. Victorious Elise updated to have spider form and spiderlings.

Kassadin nerfs, Zed ult change (ult spawns shadow at his starting point instead of at target). Sultan Gangplank on PBE for testing now.

End of Season profile icons and profile banners are up.

Nicho Void
October 16 2013, 11:07:52 PM
No you cant, because no one will accept a queue with those wacky comps in it. Also, what if you want to do a comp the game doesnt understand like that 5-mid heimer push thing that is somewhere in this thread, for example?
Good. Fuck your meta breaking shit.

Heh. You're the cancer of LOL.
If no one will accept the queue, because the comp you want is fucking retarded, you deserve to play alone.

Keep rocking that karma jungle though. I'm sure it'll catch on.

XenosisReaper
October 16 2013, 11:16:31 PM
Or you could just get some friends

SAI Peregrinus
October 17 2013, 03:13:31 AM
Right now, if you have a strange idea and no friends, you queue up, pick whatever, do whatever in game, and get reported for refusing to communicate with team/etc. Your team will likely rage at you, and you'll almost certainly lose. Your only chance to break the meta is with 4 other people who most likely don't want to break the meta.

With a Team Builder style system, you can be sure the other 4 people you get are willing to try breaking the meta. No one is going to report you for picking Poppy when they knew you'd be playing Poppy and could easily have just found a less retarded team leader.

LoKiPP
October 17 2013, 04:19:59 AM
No you cant, because no one will accept a queue with those wacky comps in it. Also, what if you want to do a comp the game doesnt understand like that 5-mid heimer push thing that is somewhere in this thread, for example?

I don't think you realize just how many people play this game.

Nicho Void
October 17 2013, 02:31:41 PM
The irony is that he's arguing against change because he's afraid it won't allow him to change.

Voulture
October 17 2013, 04:05:06 PM
So let me understand you - a mode that lets you pick not meta comp, that you want to play and that you can queue for - forces a meta? :psyduck:

On serious note, apart from kill lanes bottom duos the only players I have EVER encountered not wanting to play the meta are fucking atrocious fucks and trolls that don't want to play supports so pick roam poppies. Meta is not here by accident, that optimal way of using current resources and what makes comps so stable in lol. Xp is split differently in dota (you can wiki for details if you are curious) so playing different comps is fine. Name it. Triple queue without jungle. Even roamers without jungle. Or a support player pulling jungle into lane to grant more gold and xp for his carry. Are all fine. They are not fine in league as the system is bad and prevents it. Don't force something hurting your team just because you want it. That's what "mid or i feed last picks" picking second mid, Brand, are being flamed for... by you. Right?

XenosisReaper
October 17 2013, 04:35:23 PM
Yeah, generally if something isn't the meta it's because it's awful and not viable.

if you don't have 4 friends willing to play with you then maybe you should stop playing LoL and go make some friends.

FourFiftyFour
October 17 2013, 04:42:42 PM
2 divisions left till silver.

9-1 over the past two days or so.

Riding jinx and Leona out of bronze.

Nicho Void
October 17 2013, 05:22:14 PM
I don't want to burst your bubble, but about the time your MMR hits bronze 1 you're going to run into an absolute pile of self-entitled silver 5s with shit MMR who have given up all hope of ever winning again. The trolling will be unlike anything you have ever seen.

XenosisReaper
October 17 2013, 05:33:16 PM
I don't want to burst your bubble, but about the time your MMR hits bronze 1 you're going to run into an absolute pile of self-entitled silver 5s with shit MMR who have given up all hope of ever winning again. The trolling will be unlike anything you have ever seen.

Omega Supreme
October 17 2013, 06:01:04 PM
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/announcing-end-season-3-rewards

Season extended 2 weeks, ending November 11.

El Capitano
October 17 2013, 07:48:57 PM
That's probably a result of all the EUW people getting angry that the game broke every weekend for a month.

Omega Supreme
October 17 2013, 07:49:51 PM
I thought so as well.

In other news, Malphite super fucking strong. 3 AD team comp, stack armor, ignore enemy AP, ult and win the game.

XenosisReaper
October 17 2013, 07:54:30 PM
That's probably a result of all the EUW people getting angry that the game broke every evening for a month.

FYP

Lex Fasces
October 18 2013, 11:36:22 AM
I don't want to burst your bubble, but about the time your MMR hits bronze 1 you're going to run into an absolute pile of self-entitled silver 5s with shit MMR who have given up all hope of ever winning again. The trolling will be unlike anything you have ever seen.

That's me! I carried myself out of bronze with a 14 win streak as jungle vi. Soon as I hit silver the quality of my team dropped and the game wad awful to play. Now I dont play ranked lol

The fives are where people go to die after they get carried higher than they are. I had better games and more even when in bronze.

Omega Supreme
October 18 2013, 08:24:55 PM
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/7598

Indonesian servers available now. Transfer and get Jayce + Full Metal Jayce and Corki + Red Baron Corki for transferring.

If you already own the champs, refund on your IP.

XenosisReaper
October 18 2013, 09:02:10 PM
On the other hand, Indonesians.

Omega Supreme
October 18 2013, 09:05:45 PM
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=42325083#post42325083

Skarner rework coming to PBE!



Base Attack speed lowered by 1%

Crystal Slash
-Mana cost reduced from 20/22/24/26/28 to 16/18/20/22/24
-When target is hit, applies an attack speed buff for 6s that stacks up to 3 times 4/5/6/7/8
-Slow removed from Crystal Slash (moved to Fracture)

Exoskeleton
-Attack speed component removed
-Cooldown lowered from 18s to 14s
-Max movepseed increased from 15/17/19/21/23 to 24/28/32/36/40 and ramps up over 3s
-Duration remains at 6s
-Shield value increased from 70/115/160/205/250 to 75/125/175/225/280
-Shield AP ratio increased from 0.6 to 0.8

Fracture
-Mana cost reduced from 50/55/60/65/70 to 30/35/40/45/50
-Heal removed
-Targets hit are slowed by 30/35/40/45/50 for 2.5s
-Missile range increased 800->1000
-Missile width reduced 120->90

Impale
-Impale now roots targeted champion during the windup animation
-VO for “feel my sting” etc will happen on successful grab instead of cast start


Explanations
-The attack speed buff was moved from W to Q to make Skarner more consistent and less feast or famine
-The slow was moved from Q to E to get rid of the frustrating perma slow of his old Q but also to allow him some more flexibility and ability to make catches/plays with the ranged slow on E
-W speed values are buffed to bring him in line with other similar bruisers
-R now has a more consistent ability to grab targets once he has started casting on them

These changes are still not final, and I want everyone to play the new kit and give us feedback.

-Scruffy

PBE updated:

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/26061-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-10-18-13-xerath

Morgana auto range increased, Sivir changes, Ahri changes, Xerath reverted to current (on live) stats, more Heimer changes.

Oh and a transcript of a Riot dev saying Lux is broken but her low win % and people enjoying her is what keeps them from reworking her.

I Legionnaire
October 19 2013, 01:47:32 AM
Triple revive Aatrox is OP(we had zilean support).

XenosisReaper
October 19 2013, 01:48:25 AM
Triple revive Aatrox is OP(we had zilean support).

Add a Yorick for maximum luls

Vortex
October 19 2013, 05:31:45 PM
It seems my MMR stockpiled while I was stuck on those promotion games. +26lp wins all day long feels nice!

Omega Supreme
October 19 2013, 10:38:15 PM
It seems that when you jungle against low level junglers, and you counter jungle them, they really don't like it. :razor:

Lex Fasces
October 20 2013, 10:02:56 AM
When someone counter jungles me I just go looking for them in their own jungle, normally by Golems or blue

XenosisReaper
October 20 2013, 11:56:56 AM
It seems that when you jungle against low level junglers, and you counter jungle them, they really don't like it. :razor:

Nunu jungle is my kryptonite,

El Capitano
October 20 2013, 12:06:10 PM
I could never make jungle Nunu work, perhaps my play style didn't mesh well with him.

Lex Fasces
October 20 2013, 03:04:12 PM
I could never make jungle Nunu work, perhaps my play style didn't mesh well with him.

He is really easy, build rod of ages into tank after getting the spell vamp jungle item. Do dragon at roughly level 4-5 or just after you get your second buffs. If bot or mid are pushed they can help even earlier. Run into your baddies jungle and smite or eat the biggest minion in the camp it's easiest to get their wraiths and Golems. At level five your consume will do 1k true damage and with your speed up and slow, you should be able to sit and watch them do them buff, eat it before they can smite slow them and blood boil away.

In teamfights you either ult around your carries or try to flash ult into theirs...

Vortex
October 20 2013, 05:23:03 PM
I could never make jungle Nunu work, perhaps my play style didn't mesh well with him.

He is really easy, build rod of ages into tank after getting the spell vamp jungle item. Do dragon at roughly level 4-5 or just after you get your second buffs. If bot or mid are pushed they can help even earlier. Run into your baddies jungle and smite or eat the biggest minion in the camp it's easiest to get their wraiths and Golems. At level five your consume will do 1k true damage and with your speed up and slow, you should be able to sit and watch them do them buff, eat it before they can smite slow them and blood boil away.

In teamfights you either ult around your carries or try to flash ult into theirs...

Rod of ages is way too expensive for a jungler. Spectral Wraith is a 1,700 gold purchase alone, and ROA adds another 2,800 for your build. ROA heavily punishes building it late, and a 25min complete rod sucks compared to a 15min complete rod, so when you finally do finish it, you've missed your key game timing window to have it complete anyways. Getting fed means you can complete it faster, but a fed nunu will be a problem for your team later on because its too much gold on a non-initiating, low DPS, low-CC champion in teamfight phase.

Nunu is, IMO, an extremely difficult champion to play well because he relies heavily on counter-jungling, to the point where you totally shutdown the enemy jungler and therefore make up for the fact you are a Nunu and whoever their jungler is is probably more useful than you later on. Heavy counter jungling is risky because you can get collapsed on and killed, and you still need to have a presence in the other lanes as well. All told, it requires a lot of game sense that takes a while to develop and can easily backfire when put to the test.

Spectral wraith is nice on nunu, due to the way it works with consume and smite. However, its hardly necessary, as he already has absurd sustain and jungle pressure without it. Its the "best" item, but in most circumstances elder golem is the best choice, just like it is for every other jungler. Honestly, jungling would be in a very bad spot without elder golem - its the item that makes jungling "work" at all. The HP and tenacity are too important for you to pass up in most circumstances, and it lets you run tabis or mobi boots while still keeping tenacity. All told though, Nunu has little place in the current meta, and you have to just be a crazy-greedy always-on-the-map consumer of camps to be worth your spot on the team.

Omega Supreme
October 21 2013, 02:34:08 AM
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=42377822#42377822

Info about the potential future Evelynn visual update. Seems they'll do a Traditional skin like with Sejuani, Trundle.

Venec
October 21 2013, 10:31:48 AM
http://youtu.be/1r9sqGOvxmk

Omega Supreme
October 21 2013, 10:42:59 AM
http://youtu.be/1r9sqGOvxmk

As good as the Excellent Adventure (Which had a sequel!).

Lex Fasces
October 21 2013, 10:46:26 AM
Yeah I used to get the hp item on nunu but the spellvamp one allows for safer and earlier Dragon and baron

Vortex
October 21 2013, 05:18:24 PM
Just spend the past ~6 hours trying to get a stream set up, and I think I'm even further behind than when I started.

Things I've discovered:

My fourth core in my Phenom II x3 (x4) isn't up to overclocking past +300mhz (I could be doing it wrong)
Xsplit is the dodgiest piece of crap that wants you to pay a monthly allowance to use
DxTory pulls my video with one quarter the gamma I see it at. I have no idea why and apparently you can't fix it.
OBS is great, but I've introduced audio stutter into my stream that I cannot figure out how to remove.

Given my upload is only 896kbps (lol dsl) I knew this would be tough. I was hoping to get a 720p stream going, but that seems to be right out the window. I've now set my sights on a 960x540 stream, but I have that persistent audio stutter problem, and my latency keeps spiking into the several hundred ms range. Siiiiigh, I'll tackle it more when I have the energy but it seems like my hardware and connection are both too shit to do any streaming.

XenosisReaper
October 21 2013, 05:20:36 PM
Why not just use twitch?

Vortex
October 21 2013, 05:41:10 PM
Why not just use twitch?

I am uploading to twitch - or at least trying to. Xsplit and OBS are programs used to capture and upload data to streaming websites like twtich.tv, and DxTory is a video capture program that can output to other programs like Xsplit. DxTory was a necessary attempt because the free xsplit version does not allow direct access to the videocard data, so you have to copy the pixel data on the monitor instead which is much slower as you are duplicating work already done. OBS is an open-source program similar to Xsplit, but it doesn't impose inane restrictions on capturing data so DxTory wasn't needed with it (not that DxTory worked well for me anyways).

Anyways I don't want to turn this into a tech help thread. If / when I can get a stream worth watching I'll post the relevant details.

Omega Supreme
October 21 2013, 07:32:59 PM
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/26082-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-10-21-2013-skarners

Morgana getting an interesting change on her W. Damage ramps up based on missing HP amount, from 10% to 60%. Much like Volibear's bite.

vDJ
October 21 2013, 08:54:45 PM
Why not just use twitch?

I am uploading to twitch - or at least trying to. Xsplit and OBS are programs used to capture and upload data to streaming websites like twtich.tv, and DxTory is a video capture program that can output to other programs like Xsplit. DxTory was a necessary attempt because the free xsplit version does not allow direct access to the videocard data, so you have to copy the pixel data on the monitor instead which is much slower as you are duplicating work already done. OBS is an open-source program similar to Xsplit, but it doesn't impose inane restrictions on capturing data so DxTory wasn't needed with it (not that DxTory worked well for me anyways).

Anyways I don't want to turn this into a tech help thread. If / when I can get a stream worth watching I'll post the relevant details.

Definitely don't use Xsplit. OBS is the stuff.
Did you try to use other streaming platforms than twitch ? There are some names in the OBS settings presets iirc. Maybe that could alleviate your issues.
But yeah, for HD streaming you pretty much need optical fiber or a very good adsl.

Voulture
October 22 2013, 08:54:24 AM
Matchmaking too good:

http://i.imgur.com/EmjTtRc.jpg

But hey!
Sometimes it does it's job i guess...

http://i.imgur.com/4cCZxMl.jpg

Irion
October 22 2013, 10:01:07 AM
Normal game, it uses a seperate MMR value. Thats one of the reasons people who play only normal/ranked tend to think the other is trash, they are playing way below the level they usually play at. In a similar manner I loaded into a ARAM with a 4 man premade of diamond players once (and nearly lost).

Voulture
October 22 2013, 12:00:53 PM
Voult is on fire. Thanks Grarr for screen ;]

http://i.imgur.com/dl8mENU.jpg

First ranked penta this season for me :)

http://i.imgur.com/A6IsQq2.jpg

Yeah, was a good morning:

http://i.imgur.com/Ltm5dXy.jpg

Nooow, 3 more wins ;3 3 more wins.

Nobody_Holme
October 22 2013, 12:09:10 PM
Gold I has two people in it. Whut?

That league system, it works REALLY WELL, right? Sigh.

Voulture
October 22 2013, 12:19:27 PM
It's a new league. Was filled with gold 5 players. I got to gold 1 instantly with my promotion games, there are like 100 players in gold 5, 100 in gold 4, 15 in gold 3, 3 in gold 2 and 2 in gold 5 that way. It's gonna look normal in like a month.

XenosisReaper
October 22 2013, 12:41:17 PM
It's a new league. Was filled with gold 5 players. I got to gold 1 instantly with my promotion games, there are like 100 players in gold 5, 100 in gold 4, 15 in gold 3, 3 in gold 2 and 2 in gold 5 that way. It's gonna look normal in like a month.

New League?

Voulture
October 22 2013, 12:59:14 PM
They are not limited. If there are new players advancing in ladder there has to be some place created for them to be put in. I think. Dunno. Does it work this way?

SAI Peregrinus
October 22 2013, 02:20:15 PM
Riot should change leagues so that when promoted from a 1 you go to a 4 instead of into 5. EG Bronze 1 promotes to Silver 4, Silver 1 promotes to Gold 4, etc. It would avoid a lot of the "get promoted, everyone is shit" issues.

Surveyor
October 22 2013, 03:37:47 PM
Perhaps their changes for season 4 are good. We don't know much yet. I for one hope they include the soloq only mode (the only reason to play dota2 for atm) omg the things hinted at.

QuackBot
October 22 2013, 04:00:09 PM
I am uploading to twitch - or at least trying to. Xsplit and OBS are programs used to capture and upload data to streaming websites like twtich.tv, and DxTory is a video capture program that can output to other programs like Xsplit. DxTory was a necessary attempt because the free xsplit version does not allow direct access to the videocard data, so you have to copy the pixel data on the monitor instead which is much slower as you are duplicating work already done. OBS is an open-source program similar to Xsplit, but it doesn't impose inane restrictions on capturing data so DxTory wasn't needed with it (not that DxTory worked well for me anyways).

Anyways I don't want to turn this into a tech help thread. If / when I can get a stream worth watching I'll post the relevant details.
So are you.

Vortex
October 22 2013, 04:04:39 PM
Just jumpled to plat 3 from plat 5. Why is Jarvan such a sexy beast good god.