Venal

[drealar]

Shit goes here.
Merciless. are in constant war with our new neighbours, gypsy band, who moved even closer to us to bring more good fights. We are now 2 jumps apart. NC. and the ewoks have been spotted in the outlying area's and POS's getting reinforced daily.

We've come off worst in recent engagements I think but looking forward to more fights, hope they keep bringing it!

[depili]

For the various alliances active in venal this is the basic lowdown:

Merciless + Agony with occasional support from evoke + ncdot
Gypsy Band with occasional NC support
Co2 + Wild boards, the small Serbian block

As far as technetium moons are considered each block holds some moons.

So far we haven't had any good three way free for alls unfortunately, mostly because our numbers aren't really enough to challenge merciless or gypsies during CTA's :(

[Booley]

Last night we were shooting a tower, gypsy band were apparently watching us. Logged their supers on halfway through the siege cycle and :welp: goes the dread fleet.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9354549

[The Monkeysphere]

Who are Gypsy Band?

[Grarr Dexx]

Rebellion alliance under a new name, pretty much.

[Brother G]

I wondered why we had hardly seen Gypsy Band around in Geminate anymore, seems you are keeping them very busy!

[Garst Tyrell]

We had a nice fight tonight, unexpected due to the time zone differences. BAND has been regularly reinforcing our towers, tonight we had a standard us op to save one. Shortly before the tower was out, BAND (russian tz alliance) began to log into their home system and it was obvious they had alarm clocked for it.

They titan bridged about 40 guys, mostly arty abaddons, 3 triage carriers with 2 nyxes on standby to a ping spot off our pos, warped down to it and engaged the tower ignoring our fleet. They chose to cyno on the opposite side of the tower from our 9 shield repping carriers who were able to continue repping the tower uninterrupted throughout the fight. Unfortunately the nyxes never came in.

They were slow on the bubble and we were quick to warp our gang to their cyno, kill the alt and warp back down to the tower on top of them to save travel time. At this time we had about 30-40 pvp ships excluding alts, carriers repping the tower, etc. One of our hictors trolls their carriers with a misclicked cyno next to them :p

About now a 20+ man black legion moonin gang white knighted our side to help clear tackle and whittle down the abaddons. We engaged at 0 quickly killing the support and isolating the carriers which we put down with help from effective pos gunning from our side. A short fight ensues with many of the BAND ships forced to leave the field and fly home in defeat while we killed the carriers.

GF guys and pretty unexpected, ty for the late night fun o7

http://killboard.gypsyband.ru/?a=kill_r ... _id=113681 (http://killboard.gypsyband.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=113681)
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9399800

Kb battle report pretty shit so far, give some time for api to kick in

[depili]

On a more general note, Venal has been quite interesting lately with multiple 20-40 people gangs moving around. As of now both Darkside and Black legion have entered the field with black legion apparently living in 6NJ. Looking forward to first real clusterfuck with 4 or more different fleets :)

[Fayceoff]

In the interests of balance, I should point out that Gypsy Band have had the upper hand over us (Merciless./Cartel./Agony) for the last 10 day with fights going something like 5 or 6 to 3 in their favour, thanks to their very pro use of the arty abaddon/triage carrier fleet and void bombers; and to be fair they haven't dropped SCs all over the place or called their NC friends (presumably NC have more to be concerned about than Gypsy's tech moon empire at this point).

Unfortunately this pro-ness doesn't really translate into small gang pvp, but there were encouraging signs of them actually trying to go roaming today. No real BC/HAC slugfests to report yet tho.

[Fayceoff]

(presumably NC have more to be concerned about than Gypsy's tech moon empire at this point).
WRONG

I'll let Garst fill in the BR but the spectacle of half the NC chasing little old us around while Vale burns was quite something.

[Garst Tyrell]

(presumably NC have more to be concerned about than Gypsy's tech moon empire at this point).
WRONG

I'll let Garst fill in the BR but the spectacle of half the NC chasing little old us around while Vale burns was quite something.

no need for a br there was no battle. we formed up to fight band, they batphoned when they realized they couldnt win with equal numbers anymore, we got bridged on while traveling home and pincered, blobbed and bent over. bff

[Hunlight]

wasn't just the kitchen sink, was the whole kitchen.

ended up a 80v250 odd ( rough numbers)

friendly fleet did alrite avoiding complete destruction with a good number getting out.

shame nc worry about us compared to gem cause it ain't going well over there atm :P

[Liptonez]

NCdot just appeared in H-PA, jumping in 100+ carriers at once. Now they're hugging the station trying to achieve something which I'm not so sure about yet. Looks like they'll stay for a little longer.

[Hunlight]

NCdot just appeared in H-PA, jumping in 100+ carriers at once. Now they're hugging the station trying to achieve something which I'm not so sure about yet. Looks like they'll stay for a little longer.

let the fun and games begin, venal will defiantly be hotting up more over the next few weeks.

be interesting to see the nc's take on it with them loosing space rapidly to the east and internal drama everywhere.

[drealar]

I've already got my personal tech moon, have you?
On topic, anything newsworthy here lately? Work's taking up more of my time than I'd like :(

[Liptonez]

Lol whoever just deleted this jewel:


Right now, NC is being supremely out blobbed by our enemies. We didn't bother trying to fight earlier in the day when the DRF logged in 300+ supers in ZLZ.

Comedy gold (also note how the 150 supers were doubled).

[Garst Tyrell]

Venal has been somewhat static. With BAND having reclaimed most of their tech moons they have devolved to guristas mission running, general bearing NC style and sitting still for the time being occasionally shooting our poses in some stupid early eu tz and getting mad when our timers are stronted after they go to bed. :monocledowns:

On the plus side ncdot has moved to h-pa which means the region should see more action. RAZOR has taken an interest in the co2/wepra pocket lately, probably trolling them since lee chanka is constantly trying to solo razor poses in his rev.

Looks like arty abddons will be the new NC fotm replacing maels

edit: also black legion is back from geminate and doing us tz munin stuff

[Liptonez]

Venal feels like Syndicate of a few months ago right now. A couple independent corps/alliances, and a big naplist that puts up 50+ man roaming gangs and 100+ man CTA fleets for ~goodfights~.
Then there's CO2 camping PF- all day, and WEPRA who I've never seen undocked.

But yeah, it's a little static. I never found NPC regions to be the core spot of PVP anyway, you just go out to sov space and rape the residents.

[depili]

Co2 has few smallish roams each day (in the 5-10 pilot range) and wepra undocks when led by Lee Chanka, which happens almost daily. Wepra (Wild boars alliance) and Co2 are blue to each other but not to anyone else in venal.

Then there is the merciless+agony+ncdot+evoke+black legion nap-train harassing gypsy (and the rest of the nc by proxy).

As we (co2 and wepra) don't have the numbers needed to go toe-to-toe with anyone else we just do the occasional gatecamp or a roam (and Lee Chanka tries to ninja-RF towers with a solo revelation).

[Atticus]

I just moved here this weekend after 1.5 yr in the South. Corp is rolling in over the next couple of days and pulling an EAK from Dead Terrorists' "Back to our Roots!" Alot of "Venal, Baby, Venal!" and Swingers' references are being made in corp chat. I can't speak for EU TZ but US TZ has been fun. NC are really boring these days and even the carebears are less common than when I was last here. NCDOT brings it but tends to smack too much. Lots of l33t pvp going on.

Black Legion. are not blue/nap with NCDot/Evoke. Already netted a Mach kill piloted by Wicked Princess. :)

[Bashiri]

Co2 has few smallish roams each day (in the 5-10 pilot range) and wepra undocks when led by Lee Chanka, which happens almost daily. Wepra (Wild boars alliance) and Co2 are blue to each other but not to anyone else in venal.

Then there is the merciless+agony+ncdot+evoke+black legion nap-train harassing gypsy (and the rest of the nc by proxy).

As we (co2 and wepra) don't have the numbers needed to go toe-to-toe with anyone else we just do the occasional gatecamp or a roam (and Lee Chanka tries to ninja-RF towers with a solo revelation).


Black Legion been blue to Merciless for almost a year now.

Evoke/NCdot/agony/cartel and Mecriless are all nap to shoot nc

[Jester]

NC are really boring these days and even the carebears are less common than when I was last here.
Not surprising. The military indices are dropping like meteors in Fade/Pure Blind. Ratting -- and therefore, ratter kills, and therefore, home defense fleets -- have all but ceased. When I checked last night, there were only four Military Index 5 systems left in the entire PB region.

[Elo]

BL are only blue to merciless fyi

[Hunlight]

Well as of last night volta have two logged off titans with no pos now in h-pa unless they got them out during us tz. Goons decided not to come and play last night which was a shame so no fight to be had, just the tower to kill.

[depili]

Well as of last night volta have two logged off titans with no pos now in h-pa unless they got them out during us tz. Goons decided not to come and play last night which was a shame so no fight to be had, just the tower to kill.

Getting the titans out shouldn't be a problem unless you put up a new tower and anchored tons of bubbles on the site. Logonski->join fleet -> jump

[Hunlight]

Well as of last night volta have two logged off titans with no pos now in h-pa unless they got them out during us tz. Goons decided not to come and play last night which was a shame so no fight to be had, just the tower to kill.

Getting the titans out shouldn't be a problem unless you put up a new tower and anchored tons of bubbles on the site. Logonski->join fleet -> jump

well I dunno what nc. are doing on that front but we shall see .

[Helen]

Pretty damn laughable situation regarding the v0lta pos in h-pa, to give some background information D00M. in ncDOT used to be led by Darknesss (who is CEO of v0lta) instead of simply saying hey can we take your moon spot as no others are free they decided it would be simpler just to try to rf it.
They then lost several ships including a dread.

As for v0lta titans even if they lose them I don't think they'll have issues replacing them.
Why the fuck you'd want to piss them off I don't know but still if its fun more power to you.

[Bashiri]

On Venal news Bricks will be living out of IMK and will hit venal up for moons and ratting space. Let the new fun time begin.

[Helen]

On Venal news Bricks will be living out of IMK and will hit venal up for moons and ratting space. Let the new fun time begin.

Well I guess from their point of view its like going from the fire to the frying pan. :obama:

[depili]

Today Merciless + ncdot took down a MM tech tower in XW-. Wepra and Co2 had reinforced the tower twice, but didn't have enough to counter the NC defence blobs.

When the merciless+ncdot abaddon fleet cynoed in NC abaddon fleet quickly ran to their other tech tower and then proceeded to log off after ncdot fleet started bumping them out of the forcefield.

Shame to see neutrals to claim the tower we had put much effort into but then again better anyone else than the NC have that moon.

[Lee Chanka]

i don't usually type on forums but,itc dt and im bored.. :D

IN 03:20 eve time MM tower go out from reinforce in X-W6TC...because of mine lazy pigs sleeping, is +2 in Serbia and most of Europe, we go out with 5 dreads to hit tower...We jump in XW was clear from neutrals and we enter siege, 30 seconds before finishing siege, 70 hostiles reported in PF-Q 1 jump, in time when they jump in tower died and we jump out dreads 2 seconds before they landed..Tanks to God i put large Bubles on pf g8 last night witch slow them so we jumped out... :D

so Smack and hate in local started..:D On start we hop in bombers trying to bomb some of them but we kill only like 4 full cans of fuel stront and couple frigs..

[ 2011.05.06 04:34:05 ] Darkness Descend > lol u wasted a bomb lol
?[ 2011.05.06 04:35:09 ] Tauron Torres > and you suck once again
?[ 2011.05.06 04:35:16 ] Darkness Descend > again u wasted a bomb
?[ 2011.05.06 04:37:06 ] Tauron Torres > NC doesnt recruit pickle puffers
2011.05.06 04:40:28 ] Jackcoke > rofl look the idiot bomber LOL
?[ 2011.05.06 04:42:01 ] Pater Sek > you know they pros cause they cry in local

sooo...they hold about 1 hour in local..and left ..on POS stay like 7 8 pilots putting hardeners and rest shit on...we switch for close range dps ships and gank one vaga (fited with jamer rofl) and start incap pos guns and warp disruption batteries, they runn inside ff from 3 of us..:D

2011.05.06 05:15:31 ] Deeztructor > ass clowns
?[ 2011.05.06 05:15:41 ] Kthor > lol
?[ 2011.05.06 05:17:17 ] Deeztructor > be prepared to lose those ships
?[ 2011.05.06 05:18:06 ] Pthor > what are you bringing more cloking vagas
?[ 2011.05.06 05:18:12 ] Kthor > lol
?[ 2011.05.06 05:18:55 ] Deeztructor > i just would love to see your face when you shit your pants
?[ 2011.05.06 05:19:21 ] Kthor > we are not 3 year old
?[ 2011.05.06 05:19:43 ] Kthor > you still shit your self ??
?[ 2011.05.06 05:19:46 ] Deeztructor > pants I didnt say diaper
?[ 2011.05.06 05:19:55 ] Lee ChanKa > you have some healt problem m8?
?[ 2011.05.06 05:20:06 ] Lee ChanKa > when you are doing that..that is not normal for grown m8..

after 20 min or so NC gang come back..50 60 again or so...We fight a little bit and hit SS..we lose somethingk we kill soemthing local smack continue..:D

[ 2011.05.06 06:44:10 ] ewqilibrium > 50 again wtf
?[ 2011.05.06 06:44:11 ] ewqilibrium > lol
?[ 2011.05.06 06:44:12 ] ewqilibrium > :DDDDDDDD
?[ 2011.05.06 06:46:24 ] Preying Reaper > i got a batphone and im not afraid to use it
?[ 2011.05.06 06:46:33 ] ewqilibrium > :DDDD
?[ 2011.05.06 06:46:40 ] ewqilibrium > u will use it mucho time then..:D

so after they lose 4 hours on our 3 man they decided to move out...but this time they left like 15 in local or so...mixed ships supported with archon...i jumped with nyx tried to kill he but he go inside ff on half armor ...support fleet also go inside FF tho 2 falcons tried to jam me all the time.. :lol: One more time we clear all pos modules and go out form local...About 10:30 in time when they started to anchor silos we cyno in dreads and reinforce tower.. :lol:

I want to thanks all 12 alliance who come(if i miss some aly sorry) to fight us, because their courage is impressive they don't fight PL or DRF, don't fight NC. Mercs.,but they always come to fight us with ods 10/1 and even when we fight them back so much hate and smack i didn't c in life..

kb link from last night in same time when they lose 2nd reinforce TVN they fight us insted PL Raiden and DRF: http://wildboars.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_r ... id=9608548 (http://wildboars.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9608548)

and KB link for morning pos bash, kb fuck a little bit sides but you will figure out wild boars against rest: http://wildboars.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_r ... id=9610815 (http://wildboars.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9610815)

sorry for bad spelling, English not mine mature language.. ;)

regard
lee aka ewqi

[Bashiri]

We've been getting blue balled by nc for 3 weeks now. Damn you guys stealing our fun.

Edite: Band will have to defend there 2 csaa and system now that it is rf :lol:

[depili]

Yeah, it seems that the nc has given up on fighting DRF and the ncdot+merciless group and is mostly focusing in blobbing poor us :)

[Lee Chanka]

Yeah, it seems that the nc has given up on fighting DRF and the ncdot+merciless group and is mostly focusing in blobbing poor us :)


in some previous post from you and some random ppl i saw wild boars + co2 do that , wild boars + co2 do that etc etc...and i don't want ppl to get wrong impression because there is not wild boars + co2...co2 in mine fleet, which i run at least 1 per days sometime 2 3 4 5 depend whats going on ,are you Depili m8 and 1 2 3 more from your corp(VERTA) that is not C02..last time i have CO2 in mine fleet before 60 days or so..tell if im wrong..and i don't count you as co2 like before 30 days(you are wepra :D )..

wild boars have co2 and volta. blue but they don't help me*on aly level*(when i say ''me'' that is because i run 99% of wild boars fleets) in 1 op last 60 days or so...

Volta. doing their thingy roaming ganking fighting around ..old eve fags which i mucho respect from old days...

Co2 split-ed on different ways basically each corp doing own thing even living in different systems(any normal person who check their kb will c that)...but we know some of them in rl and we are in good relationships with them from before so we are blue only because of that...

so depili m8 if i c one more time you say co2 + wild boars you will be byte next time..jk m8.. :D

maby someone will be insulted from what i say but i don't fucking care im same in rl also..truth sometime hurt.. :D

[Garst Tyrell]

Not much activity post wise so I will give a regional update before bed.

As mentioned before BAND is living out of n5y and we are back on the offensive against them, griefing their poses and reinforcing techs. They complain about ncdot joining our fleets then call in deklein coalition/rest of nc to protect their moons, rinse repeat. The whole nc alliance crying about lack of 1v1s never ceases to entertain me.

Last friday we accidentally their sov in C-L, one of their branch systems, rfing two defenseless but active CSAAs (one of which had the cynojammer brilliantly on the same pos) while we sbu'd the system. Somehow the SBU's went online so we dropped supers with ncdot on the station/ihub. The CSAAs and 2 techs came out tonight which lead to our first real fight in a week of pos grinding vs the NC. Naturally there was the usual round of deklein coalition mails forwarded from the mittani championing the importance of branch and decrying the evil forces of elite pvp.

OVRHT and NCDOT formed up hellcats then merged together with ncdot taking primary fc tonight and set up to get a fight. Some initial confusion on just how many nc alliances were waiting to pounce on us favored the defenders, allowing them to rep the first csaa and tech moon in peace. Its my belief that the bad intel lead to lost chances vs the CSAA/pos but theres always more poses :p As the nc tried to outmaneuver us to run home, we pounced and started the fight, brdiging about 120 hellcats onto 150-200 arty baddons/shield BCs.

The initial fight put the nc on the back foot but a goon reinforcement maelstrom fleet showed up to replenish their losses and briefly drove us off the field, suffering heavier losses than us in the process. Magically enough of our dictors/hictors survived throughout the night to continue forcing fights and running down fleeing enemies. We chase the enemy into the next system and jump into them twice, the second time with the maelstroms at range forcing us to deaggroe and jump out. Fortunately Goons are feeling cocky and they jump their maelstroms into us, sealing the fight in our favor decisively with all NC fleets in a rout. Black Legion bridges in a 40+ man hac gang and targets the nc forces before leaving. A nano triage carrier heroically drops in to support us and manages to keep up with us as we chase them from planet to planet ;) In Zo- we finish off more nc stuck outside a TNT failpos that they dont have the password to. Oops

We run them down and loot the field but miss all chances at ganking those baby titans and posses. GF NC

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9618052 Round 1, XW-

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9618133 round 2, PF- Goons Arive

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9618478 Round 3 (briefly before jumping to z0-) and round 5, Black Legion arrives

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9618510 Round 4 where we briefly jumped into maelstroms at range and then bailed for round 5 again in vg-

What the kbs dont show is the decisive nature of the victory, although we suffered scattered losses, all 3 enemy fleets were effectively crushed and forced to retreat and regroup for the last csaa timer which we blueballed

[drealar]

I think the important thing to take away from this is 5UPER onlined some SBU's. That's freakin amazing.
Also, fucken US TZ. :cut: Looks awesome though.

[Dwergi]

Cross-posting something I already wrote:

Merciless shot at a Gypsy Band tech moon in 430- last night and got bombed coming out of warp, and took minor losses. Tower was killed with dreads, Gypsy lit a bait cyno on a Falcon and we ended up warping way too many BS to it and welped like 10 to 5 waves of bombers.

Put up a new tower and then ran up the pipe to SS-GED where NCdot was engaging a couple of NC fleets. We got there just as the NC Drake and Abaddon fleets were running after welping pretty hard in BV- on the 0-B gate (http://www.northern-coalition.co.uk/...d&kll_id=52524). We got a couple of kills in AJCJ on the 6NJ gate, before NC made a full tactical retreat.

NCdot and Merciless bridged over to S-1 where ~5 carriers were repping a tech tower that we'd had to put off killing to go help out our bros. A Niddy and Thanny got bumped out by the bridge and were quickly murdered. A Gypsy band bombing run hit at the same time and took a few BS out, but most got into 50% armour. Tower was taken down by dreads who sieged only when we got confirmation that an NC gang roaming nearby was going in a different direction. Tower was anchored and Merciless babysat it for 30 minutes before bridging home. BR for S-1: http://merciless-alliance.com/killbo...d&kll_id=15243

Props to Gypsies for doing some pretty nasty bombing runs, though we came expecting Abaddons.

[Elo]

Merciless reset us tonight cause we're not cool or something :obama:
Edit: No blues now :razor:

[BuRniZZ]

The only way to play. Forever alone. :tumbleweed:
Since I've decided exams > Eve this semester and haven't been able to keep up, what is the tech situation in Venal now? How many does NC still control?

[Garst Tyrell]

RAWR still owns over half

bff right

[Garst Tyrell]

our aussies had a great set of fights this morning. also nc is fighting for their towers again \o/ sorry correction rawr is dragging nc into defending RAWR towers again while leaving the rest to die so business as usual

anyway crossposting a quick aar from one of my guys who was there

"mini AAR. merc forms for timer. we have around 40 while scouting a 70 man shield bc NC gang + caps. hold off and start talking with ncdot. combined we form 80 man baddon fleet and NC bull rushes to HBD. we light cyno off of pos and they all warp at zero. 70 man baddon fleet bridge and total rape ensues. we also snag a bunch of shield repping carriers. tower dies at this point. ncdot and merc supers come in to shoot carriers then help finish tower with sentries

get word of 160 man NC bs gang formed up and heading our way while tower onlines. we spam both alliances for more and get around ~80-90 (?) and go balls deep. NC rock up, we melt primaries faster than them and we commit a couple triage carriers to fight. epic slug that went on forever ensues with us bridging back pockets of reinforcements mid fight from k3 and h-pa respectively. PL burn up from tribute way and NC flees (but not before 60-70% off their fleet is melted by ncdot/merciless)

tower finishes anchoring. much looting was to be had"-kryptyk

"Aye it was touch and go for a moment there, since we were so outnumbered, but the FC called for dps on dps ships instead of logistics while nc tried to kill our logi. Numbers were dieing real quickly.
Then ncdot FC got killed and demanded for a target caller, but everyone froze so i grabbed the mic and started yelling target calling and broadcasting.
When i took over the nc numbers were smaller and more manageable for their logis so some reps were holding but i switched targets and it worked again"-unclesam88

BR is kinda a clusterfuck but ill throw in evekill for ya

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9650583 so 5 carriers and probably 70% of nc killed in both fights, probably 30% friendly (merc/ncdot) losses

Also popped my supercap kill cherry last night, merc rushed into a ncdot fleet last minute so low turnout, but taking my hic which I almost never do felt like destiny ,and behold, first nyx kill and a great fight. I use the term fight loosely because again nc had 300+ 1j away in d-7 guarding an ihub while this poor guy died off a pos while his friends inside watched for about 20+ mins. PL also nuked a couple carriers and we killed 2 dreads outside with the nyx.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9648634

[Fayceoff]

Questionable tactics by NC for bringing an alpha abaddon fleet and then spending the first third of the fight trying to pick off guardians and a triage carrier when the whole point of alpha is to bypass logistics. NC would do better if they had DrKrom from Gypsy Band FCing imo!

[Kryptyk]

awesome fight, big props to both ncdot and merciless holding strong against a larger bs force in a straight up slug fest

lots of fun, tower op success and 2 rounds of fighting. thx NC for bringing it

gfgf

[Garst Tyrell]

Goons RF'd one of our tech moons, it came out this morning a bit before downtime. I was sleeping soundly in my bed knowing our aussie formation was getting the job done, great job guys glad they gave you a nice fight. Obviously moon saved

http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18208 (http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18208)

65 Merciless + 70 NCDot + 48 PL vs 152 goon n friends

After that combined forces took a few more tech moons in venal liberating more precious tech from the nc oppressor /wizardhat

Later on we jumped on a nc bc gang led by none other than kulaaaaa who is proudly back in hirr [rawr] after his brief foray into corporate management.

3a1p + n6g
http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18322 (http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18322)
http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18278 (http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18278)

[Garst Tyrell]

atm the nc has the entire weekend warrior kitchen sink in h-pa attempting to shoot staging towers, but they have successfully lagged the system that even with 1100+ guys they cant finish rfing the last ncdot tower because their guns arent cycling in the high lag. Pos gunners are having fun with them tho :monocledowns:

[Helen]

They lost a tech moon while doing all this blob shit again. :obama:

[HyJek]

so apparently ME is supposed to be joining Gypsy Band in N5Y, can't think that will go very well for them...

[Garst Tyrell]

to be fair unlike highsec, as their alliance mail noted first and foremost there are high quality guristas mission agents in n5y, a perfect place for majesta to move. its what drew band there anyway, and probably rage next

[Liptonez]

Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

[Helen]

Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

Tengu > Abaddon though.


But Titan > Tengu.


But CCP > everything as server is down.

:derper:

[Garst Tyrell]

Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

and yet people fly fleets other than abaddons

mirror fleet fights > ganking ratters (of which theyre are barely any in the north anymore with the sanctum nerf and war)

[Garst Tyrell]

OVRHT destroyed a BAND pos in northern venal today. We killed it without any drama and moved our hellcats back to our midpoint titan to see if we couldnt shit on any of the evaccing caps jumping around venal like crazy. Goons scouted us, band probably bleated to them about losing the tower, so vee took a gang in to shoot it to provoke us into a fight. Sadly we were unable to stront it before goons got on the tower.

We moved a cyno back and jumped into a ping off the tower; goons bounced their own ping and warped to us at 50 to begin the fight. Numbers were roughly even at this point, about 70v80ish. We were forced to burn after them and bounce triage carriers around in order to try to run them down. The fight went well but we traded most our tackle and all bubblers for a greater bloodletting on their battleships. While regrouping they bridged in more reinforcements so we asked the ncdot regroup to move our way. By the time they got in range the tower had just died, we jumped in again. Goons warped to 0 inexplicably and aggroed on us, so we engaged back and lit our cyno for a similarly sized hellcat ncdot gang to jump in with a couple more triage carriers. We forced goons off the field but were unable to kill their new anchored tower or finish off their fleet as it bounced safes and continued to grow in number with backup fleets sitting on a titan a few jumps away.

Deciding that after attrition we were too outnumbered, we made our escape and finished the night off by shitting on some gypsy band ihubs in branch before heading home.

GF goons ty for the fight

http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killb ... l_id=20910 (http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20910)
Ncdot joined for the second skirmish

[Hunlight]

Damn garst beat me to the br was going to write one up this morning :) was good fight shame they decided to double their numbers by the end. either way good fights was had.

[Garst Tyrell]

Roughly 50man Merciless hellcat fleet vs 135+ goon gank dps fleet (couple logi and a bit of tackle but about 100+ gank bcs if not more)

A large roaming deklein fed blob that had hovered around 90-170 throughout the night had been busy running around raiden and irc space not getting any fights, which isnt surprising because only faggots roam around in 150 man fleets expecting fights (esp since they never did this when pl/ncdot/wn/evoke was active up here and might actually be able to match their numbers ); and only trolls roam around in 150 man arty hurricane fleets expecting fights. Goons have had 80-100+ roaming gangs hunting carebears in venal daily now so its not too shocking once you factor in the weekend warrior bloat in fleet. I cant really rat on goons too hard tho, I mean we did jump into them :)

Interestingly enough despite scouting one of our moons coming out of RF and assuming that someone might show up to fight over it, they ran over to irc space to do a blob log on trap on the edge of tenal that I dont think actually killed anything. After saving our two poses uneventfully, a seemingly diminished and strung out goon fleet was spotted burning home full speed 2j under where we were saving our last pos for the first round.

Since RDN pussied out I attempted to get us a nice dangerous fight with goons on the way home by catching their blob in a sling bubble with a hic + titan bridge surprise buttsex. However this failed from the start when our scouts failed to give quick enough intel to give our hictor time to bubble up as the blob jumped in and local and warped to him. As such he was tackled 50 off gate with the blob landing at 0. As he was about to die anyway I had him light his cyno and we bridged in to save him, and much to my initial delight (and eventual horror) the deklein blob turned off the gate and was COMING RIGHT AT US™

We anchored up and started our first and later 2-3 triage carriers going while working our way through the seemingly endless hurricanes. We later found out that with a 'bring whatever you want fleet', roughly half of the canes were actually AC canes with dual neuts which broke the cap stability of our triage carriers while the alpha/DPS that did them in in under a minute each. While we primaried the hurricanes and struggled at first with our dps due to ecm drone spam, they were busy working their way through our guardians and then the triage carriers. We finally found our rhythm and dps started to apply but by then we were out of logi and had to bail. Trapped 30km+ bit off gate towards the cyno, I ordered overheated mwding to the gate and jumping on contact hoping their guys would be too busy with aggroe and unable to jump and tackle us since we were dead on grid anyway. A handful of us made it out and safed up. Despite having 135 in fleet they had no probers so after a few mins of camping they gave up on us and we slunk back to our newly saved pos to get bridged home and stand down for the first round of our long sunday.

In hindsight it seems we were much more outnumbered than I previously thought, especially in dps. We actually struggled to apply dps which pissed me off in the beginning (why were shield canes with minimal ehp and like 3 scimis tanking 20-30 hellcats up close for so long?), but it looks like we had serious issues with ecm drone spam and possible ecm from ships farther off from us. If you look at the kills we had maybe 10-15 on each killmail while they were able to apply full blob dps to everything, melting our guardians and subcaps instantly, and carriers in under a minute.

We had no kills in the last part of the rout because I ordered a deaggroe as we burned to get so we could jump ASAP and GTFO, sadly we lost a lot of tackled people off gate who never had a chance to make it back and jump.

Conclusion

This was a deceptively vulnerable fleet when we first engaged. I saw their fleet as strung out with much reduced numbers running home full speed in a lemming fleet which is the only reason I felt remotely comfortable engaging this alpha blob, but I failed to anticipate that while they might be strung out, the size of the engagement meant that the stragglers could catch up and join in. The failed hictor trap also gave them plenty of time to react as were loading grid, time that I had planned to surprise them with but instead surprised us. We fought a losing battle as every time we killed a hurricane a straggler replaced its dps on us and our own outgoing dps was cut down by hurricane ecm drones. The overview had grown by the end of the battle, not shrunk in size.

Their sheer dps + massive spread neuts/ecm drones did us in; our tanks were not up to the challenge even with 10 guardians and 3 triage carriers giving it their all. I suppose we could have tried to keep range but at the time we thought they were all arty ships and they were faster than us anyway. Triage carriers melted near instantly (sub 1 min each), everything else damn near instapopped. We cycled triage cycles but to no avail.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10274235
We killed way more than its showing but the merciless br is shit compared to this one in terms of mixed up people on sides making it unreadable. Maybe itll api pull more later vOv

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Posting this not because we heroically beat the odds or killed a dozen supers, but because it feels good to be back fcing a Merciless only fleet of a decent size again. Im proud that after our post nc-war low we are coming back stronger than ever, and im hoping that in the future we can get back to breaking 100+ for our biggest fights and keep hitting over our weight class

[Garst Tyrell]

Instead of going south with everyone else or fighting alliances their own size, RDN has been reinforcing OVRHT highends in Venal this week. Multiple reasons have been given, including something about provoking "gfs" and disbanding us back to empire when our tech dies, but we all know its about them wanting to jew more isk for sanctum nyxes. A scary screenshot of their supercap fleet was even posted on one of our Hungarian corp's forums as a threat of THINGS TO CUM before we disband back to empire. God dammit we hate empire but love tech so this is a no-win situation for us!

With our backs to the empire wall and our very 0.0 livelihood apparently tied to the health of our highends, we stoically formed an au tz AHAC fleet to defend our last two timers of the day (3 pos saves and 1 fun welp to goons earlier that night).

Raiden jumps into ek2 with about 15 dreads to start the tower and we pounce on them with our roughly 50man AHAC gang including support. Immediately a cyno pops and the RDN support comes in with a similar number of abaddons/t3 and a triage archon; brawl ensues. Our numbers are too low to fight through the triage reps although we do have limited success changing targets quicker than the archon can react while losing a few ships to the abaddons. The archon FINALLY caps out 10-20min in and we burn him down and get to start killing abaddons like we should have been all along, melting them quickly.

At this turning point in the battle our bubblers have done a marvelous job keeping the dreads on the field, but tbh it feels like they were never given the order to warp off/jump out/log anyway as they just sat there and tried to shoot the ahacs. We attempt to start to clear the field but alas GFs are not to be and a new RDN cyno opens to blob us with titan doomsdays and supers as expected. The new triage carrier is popped and we fight out from under the supers for another 10 min, killing the majority of their subcaps while racing against the next round of doomsdays. We break contact suffering almost 100% logi casualties and warp to the star where our inities have held a brilliant naglfar using the star at 0 as a warp out. We try to get bubbles in the way of their warpin to prevent their capital reps from landing in range however with no dictors left and our hictor too close, we fail and suffice to kill a few more abaddons before being forced to flee the star and system. The POS is replaced by RDN with a medium tower :v

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10276599
http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=27442 (dirtier br, more accurate count of kills)

At this point we bridge home and reship once again to new ahacs to try to save our last tower of the night. RDN has steadily grown in numbers with the eu weekend warriors logging on, and move on the last pos. Having a rough idea their new fleet sizes and a plan in mind we once again bridge onto the dreads shooting our tower. Sadly the supercap spam entered from the first moment of this fight this time at 0 rather that a ping as hoped. Either I failed at absorbing the intel or the scouts failed at reporting accurately, but we had to immediately bail with no kills but a fair number of losses when we fought a fleet roughly double in capability/supers of what we had optimistically expected to give a GF. As the doomsday effects turn off and the pos instadies, we break contact and burn home, one step closer to retreating to empire. As the ashes settle we hunker down in k3 and begin pouring over dotlan for a new lowsec station to live in (and it better have fucking level 5 mission access)

3 pos saved so far, 2 lost. No br to link for the second welp, was just a bunch of merciless losses to supers so nothing interesting there :(((

Miraculously I wasnt doomsdayed so im going to keep posting until im important enough to be instakilled every hotdrop again dammit

[Leviathan]

GF merci.. raiden like GF's as much as the goons and russians.

[Garst Tyrell]

GF merci.. raiden like GF's as much as the goons and russians.

(1)(0) Aeon (Supercarrier)
(10)(0) Nyx (Supercarrier)
(3)(0) Avatar (Titan)
(4)(0) Erebus (Titan)

for a 40 man fight? drop the GF act and just admit you're here to jew tech. Stop treating the fhc community like morons

[Liptonez]

I don't really see how running around in a 40 man abaddon fleet with triage support is "looking for GFs" either.

But that Ahac welp is a damn shame.

[Badboy K]

(1)(0) Aeon (Supercarrier)
(10)(0) Nyx (Supercarrier)
(3)(0) Avatar (Titan)
(4)(0) Erebus (Titan)

for a 40 man fight? drop the GF act and just admit you're here to jew tech. Stop treating the fhc community like morons


dude, go back to 2004 and fight with t1 cruisers ...for GF's...

[Garst Tyrell]

I don't really see how running around in a 40 man abaddon fleet with triage support is "looking for GFs" either.

But that Ahac welp is a damn shame.

funny story about that, if you mean the one from this week we engaged a 135 man goon bc gang. pretty sure fighting 135v40 is the definition of good fights for people looking to do something other than gank ravens or camp a nullsec entrance gate

[Calgus]

Can see where he is coming from though, the willingness to drop supercaps shows that the fight was purely about achieving objectives i.e. dat der tech goo rather than actually seeking out challenging but rewarding fight on terms which the opponent can engage.

[Leviathan]

Garst Im ex merci, commending your fighting you bollocks. You're sig seems fitting of your forum style.

gf

[Badboy K]

http://kb.raidenalliance.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=27482

what happened here? can't check jabber, i'm off at work....

[ry ry]

we got caught at a midpoint by a roaming gang, whilst evacing to empire :(

[Garst Tyrell]

http://kb.raidenalliance.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=27482

what happened here? can't check jabber, i'm off at work....

saved 4 tech moons before dt. One of our other senior fcs today was running the show and we decided to reinforce the s-1 tower that raiden killed off us yesterday (it was succesfully rf'd before the fight).

Sloppiness in from both the FC and sloppiness in piloting from the dreads themselves kept us on the field longer than we should have been to finish the tower. For starters our e-cyno disaappared and another wasnt prepped until the hotdrop had already happened. The dreads themselves were confused with the cycle timers and frankly im not happy looking at some of our fits and seeing that lemmings cant even copy and paste an alliance fit after being told to a million times. Basically after a hour+ of pos repping and downtime people were taking it casually and only when a manticore popped out of shields and cynoed in the first wave of nyxes did I take over and try to turn this into an attempt to maybe gank a rdn super since they had only about a dozen caps there at first.

After struggling initially with the e-cyno and a fail bubble most the dreads made it out while our battleship fleet killed some carriers (nidhoggur made it into shields in low hull, I thought he popped at the time for some reason) and bumped a nyx way off the RDN pos shields. Before we could genuinely take advantage of that, a second wave of nyxes came in + titans, which as usual ended the fight before it could really become epic and memorable for either side. Supercaps online is a go

[Garst Tyrell]

rising to meet the Merciless threat and endeavoring always for the good fights, at this moment -rdn- has roughly 35 dreads, 10 titans, 30 mommies and (in a rare first for them) an actual support fleet of 60 abaddons out rage reinforcing OVRHT venal towers again. If you bring enough dreads im sure youll reinforce the tower so quick the stront will burn up and itll be timed for your prime this round...right?

[Helen]

Garst you really need to dial back the bitter in your posts man.
You can't go blaming anyone for using supers as super cap ability has been the defining advantage in EvE 0.0 warfare for the last few years.

If you want "good fights then play on sisi or the AT" if you want to play at 0.0 sov/moon warfare then you need to be packing supers.

[Cassius Longinus]

I'd say come to Syndicate for some gf's, but I can't fight those hellcat fleets, so enjoy sov wafare. :)

As an alternative, hop in some BC's announce your CTA in the syndicate thread, and SOMEONE will try to fight you, though most players roll 20 tops down here.

[ry ry]

Syndicate is our backup plan when we get kicked out of empire.

[Smuggo]

Syndicate is fucking rubbish.

[pBump]

You take that back!

[ry ry]

Syndicate is fucking rubbish.

Syndicate 09/04/11 - ongoing
Started by Smuggo

self ownage.

[Smuggo]

What can I say? I started a bad thread about a terrible region and for that I apologise.

[dongbutte]

really it is dumb getting mad about supers especially when you bring the counter to their fleet (ahac vs bs)...

[Grarr Dexx]

War & politics, not whining & buttmad.

[Garst Tyrell]

no bitterness, every post has been as accurate and honest as I can make it. I just like to find the humor in life :)

[Liptonez]

funny story about that, if you mean the one from this week we engaged a 135 man goon bc gang. pretty sure fighting 135v40 is the definition of good fights for people looking to do something other than gank ravens or camp a nullsec entrance gate

Funny story about that, Abaddons actually became famous for their ability to welp Drake blobs 3-4 times their size. Now you're talking canes, ships with half the tank. You even had triage cap support. Would you be willing to say you would have the balls to engage your very own 40 man Abaddon fleet with say 80 canes?

I also enjoy how you escalate fights with carrier support, but then start being bitter for someone reinforcing their fail fleet with even bigger guns.

BTW, there's gang warfare below the vicinity of 40. It's called small gang warfare, roaming, you can do it with less than 10 people, without camping a gate. You can even have GF's (say 10vs40+caps), then come out winning by killing one tackle ship, leaving, and bitching in local for blobbing. Other than that I don't know what's wrong with killing Ravens.

Also ctrl+s'ing my post this time, fuck you vB.

Edit: I would have done without buttmad, but I find my point reasonable and wanted to take the chance at replying.

[Garst Tyrell]

Funny story about that, Abaddons actually became famous for their ability to welp Drake blobs 3-4 times their size. Now you're talking canes, ships with half the tank. You even had triage cap support. Would you be willing to say you would have the balls to engage your very own 40 man Abaddon fleet with say 80 canes?

I also enjoy how you escalate fights with carrier support, but then start being bitter for someone reinforcing their fail fleet with even bigger guns.

BTW, there's gang warfare below the vicinity of 40. It's called small gang warfare, roaming, you can do it with less than 10 people, without camping a gate. You can even have GF's (say 10vs40+caps), then come out winning by killing one tackle ship, leaving, and bitching in local for blobbing. Other than that I don't know what's wrong with killing Ravens.

Also ctrl+s'ing my post this time, fuck you vB.

Edit: I would have done without buttmad, but I find my point reasonable and wanted to take the chance at replying.

your point is reasonable but less than you think. 135 bc have significant dps as we found out first hand and raped a repping triage carrier in under a minute, three in a row. Abaddons arent going to tank that. In that circumstance do you really think it took much in the way of balls to fight 135v40? Arguing who has bigger balls is pretty the most boring and pointless debate in the history of eve

As for small gang warfare, you can find it on our killboard every day and spattered throughout my kb history so no reason to throw out hate. We embrace dangerous pvp in all forms. When we go out in 40 abaddons we dont look to go shit on 10 man gangs, we look for gangs bigger than us. Its proportional

[Badboy K]

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Merciless./events

so what happened here Garst? 4 corps left?

[bundus]

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Merciless./events

so what happened here Garst? 4 corps left?

wow lookit all dem corps jumping ship when it gets a bit murky? Good show.

[Takon Orlani]

Aussie gonna aus

On the bright side: firesales and evacuating carriers!

[Ralara]

No Mercy will survive, they're a good corp.

[Takon Orlani]

No Mercy will survive, they're a good corp.

Oi. We ain't goin anywhere either.

[ry ry]

The corps that left largely just didn't want to reset our ex-allies.

Some of them loved Vince, some of them hated Garst, some of them just really really liked running missions.

[Garst Tyrell]

the usual round of people looking out for selfish interests and then saying one thing and doing another. The departures had nothing to do with raiden's attacks, whom although I was out for a couple weeks, im told stopped harassing us long before that.

In any case yes we are no longer a strong au tz alliance however nor are we failcascading or anything of the sort. We are moving forward positively and are still active and growing. On the plus side this has helped us to find out who really believed passionately in our vision of what we want to build in eve, and those who were just being FOTM. Learn from this experience and move on etc etc but in all seriousness we are scaling back our ambitions and resolving to never again get muddled in the same bloaty decline that has occurred in pretty much every 0.0 alliance, including ourselves for a short while before we put a stop to it and got back to our roots which precipitated this whole situation. Taking the hard road and actually living up to your word/ideals (in this case resets and not joining in the new nc mark 2) is always challenging and most people are not up to the task. Our reaffirmed goal is to find the people who are interested in challenging pvp and share passionately our vision of an alliance who are always working to improve ourselves without absorbing f1 lemmings/grunts/bloat.

What separates Merciless from any other 0.0 dedicated pvp alliance is hard to keep to a short tl;dr paragraph, but basically the alliance is formed to be an escape from the same pitfalls that other alliances have fallen into. We lost our way during a rushed and very action packed initial 6+ months of life that many alliances would spread over years, but never fear, we have learned from our mistakes and given time we will be coming back stronger than ever.

[Sil]

Say hi to Eli for me would you please, thanks.

Hope all is going well for you guys and all the best.

[Brother G]

The corps that left largely just didn't want to reset our ex-allies.

Some of them loved Vince, some of them hated Garst, some of them just really really liked running missions.

None of the above for me!!

Merciless will be fine once Venal/North activity picks up again....I admire all those in the alliance for their dedication to the cause. Cheers for the good fights. o7

[Liptonez]

If you hadn't been blued up with NCdot and whatever all alliances, shooting tech moons, flying Ahacs and triage Abaddons, I would believe you that you weren't FOTM. The own alliance failcascading and losing almost a third of your corp members is nothing I'd call growth too.

I wish you good luck for your next endeavour (and +1 for not joining NCdot, although I don't see why anyone would join them really). But damn that was a bad post.

[Takon Orlani]

Write yesterdays BR already.

[Garst Tyrell]

We reinforced the cartel titan staging pos friday night in order to get us a sunday euro fight where both Cartel and us could turn up in force for a nice fight.

Sunday afternoon a couple hours before the pos came out of rf, cartel struck first and titan bridged twice onto us in k3jr and then attempted to camp the station for an hour or two while our numbers were low. Shortly before out cta formup time cartel retreated back to 6nj8 to prepare.

We formed a sub 40man abaddon CTA fleet, tds with comps available for refit in the cargo, and moved to 6nj8. Cartel was set up with 20+ arty pests for sniping and had the in gates bubbled; with 40 in local we expected a more even turnout from them. Bridging wasnt an option with no titan online so we jumped into the bubble and began to shoot it while tanking their arty sniping. I made us a warpin and we started the fight by fleet warping on top of them at 0 as the bubble died, tackling a few ships for first blood.

Afterwards we moved to the pos and began to shoot it. As a minnie large it resisted our lasers natively quite well and we would spend the next 2 hours shooting the pos off and on while fighting various cartel reships.

Their initial reship was a 20 man bomber gang that rushed a warpin on us with shrapnel bombs. We had spread out in time due to good scouting from my alt so we suffered no losses or real damage, but managed to catch about half a dozen of them quite easily.

They then reshipped to sniping pests again and called in co2, who titan bridged about a dozen random sniper hacs/bcs over. Working together they attempted to snipe us on the pos. I was going to get us some warpins to crush them again, however in the process of doing so I had to rush and tackle a warping pest with my bomber alt. As we landed for secondary points I tried to warp out but our friendly hictor bubbled for no reason and trapped my alt which promptly died to pos guns, 100% avoidably. With that we lost our main prober and ability to engage the snipers despite some weak attempts at later probing by backup scouts. As a FC that really halted my momentum and I raged a bit about the friendly bubble killing my alt.

We returned to the pos and resolved to simple shoot the pos and tank the 2 enemy gangs while we did so to get it over with. We brought in 4 alt dreads (much lower than the 8 you need in an ideal situation to one cycle an out of rf large pos) which sped it along but after one cycle we docked them up safely to minimize risk. At this time we suffered our first loss (other than my alt), one of our neuting/cyno bs that stayed on grid against orders and died to the defenders avoidably as well.

We then sat there and shot the pos into half hull slowly (much too slowly in hindsight) without dreads while co2 left to go home and cartel reshipped to abaddons/carrier. We were able to easily tank the snipers at range due to ample logi, tds crushing their dps, and the fact they were firing sniper ammo.

At this time with the pos in half hull cartel warped back to 0 on us. They had too many dictors and too small of a fleet which was a red flag to me however we engaged anyway without intel to go on otherwise. Immediately after they landed local spiked by about 90 IRC and we proceeded to do our best to break tackle and escape. All our key ships and about half our abaddons escaped fine, the other 9 dps bs we lost to the 150 hostiles slowly as they ran them down on the pos grid literally over 10 mins. We docked in top station to wait on IRC blob to leave. This was not a three way, they were called by a desperate cartel who like everyone else gives up the good fights mentality anytime you get into a fight more serious than just welping drakes on eachother. I was disappointed to see irc turn up but I should have expected something like it and was vindicated in hindsight by not keeping our caps committed.

As IRC started to leave we realized that they were flying 90 scrub bcs with no logi or support ships, not the abaddons initially reported and we resolved to go after them and bait them into a fight on the undock. They warped to 0 on the top station where we proceeded to engage them with our survivors (missing half our planned dps by this phase would have made killing them all doubtful in hindsight, but tank should have been fine). After we aggroed they immediately bailed out running to home leaving a few stragglers for us to kill. GF irc thats about what I expected from you.

At this time our hictor was tackled on the bottom station by cartel so we warped in and ended up in a pissing contest with cartel whose reps we couldnt break as they undocked more carriers, and they couldnt break us. We stared at each other for a few mins before they undocked a drake to their armor fleet which we promply executed. After that it was obvious we couldnt win so I burned us away from the station while tanking them until we broke tackle and warped out.

By this time irl was pressing most of us and we had lost our momentum so we logged in top station to scout ourselves out later. The pos I heard was being repped by guardians but since they would have to offline it to rep the half hull I imagine they will just kill it off and anchor a new one if they care to since it cant be restronted with hull damage. I regret I havent cared enough to go scout out what happened to the tower yet so no closure there. Thanks to IRC's intervention and our op dragging on, cartel held the field.

http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=29386

[Liptonez]

Wow IRC. Clearly not unexpected, but if I outnumbered someone 4:1 and my enemy would even want to fight and are not snipers/nanos, why would I not engage. :facepalm:

[Garst Tyrell]

Our roam formed earlier with about 15+ in a long range drake/pest format and went hunting. We fagged around a bit and moved to e-0 where we spent time killing bubbles on all the rapecaged gates to give us some breathing room. We found the irc permagang with about 20-30+ bcs hiding in their pos which they would do for the next hour. In the mean time we managed to get a 22 man PL ac hurricane fleet to jump into us and we began a session of rewarping on eachother. I figured it was a suicide welp cane gang from local smack (they reset irc?) but they spent enough time dodging us and making warpins I guess they wanted to win. In the end they warped to the sun, which I misinterpreted as a trick to get us to warp on them at 0, however they were just using it as a warpout and we landed 100 off. Luckily they burned towards us which let us start to pick them off. Realizing that wasnt working for them, they warped off to get safe. They made it back into m-o when I misjudged their intentions immediately after warping from the sun, and docked up while we went straggler hunting off and on for 30 mins.

http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=29494 (no losses so most canes missing, a few more died in m-o/taisy later)

After a brief break into taisy we caught another few pl canes and started to head home. The IRC gang grew some balls and warped half their gang (all drakes) down to the e-0 gate. I thought they were jumping into us from the scout's report, but he was wrong so we burned back to gate and jumped into them. As we did so the rest of the irc gang warped down to engage us and the second fight was on. Except for our unfortunate scrammed huginn we got to range and started to pick off primarys and chase their tackle off with our drones, sadly killing none of their frigs. Just as quick as it began the irc gang gave up and warped back to the pos. We meandered around a bit while roughly heading home but didnt manage to snag anything else before we made it back and docked up.

http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=29504

[fishslapper]

Garst - this isn't personal, but your Battle Reports are kind of hinting at Merciless' lack of relevance at the moment.

[Grarr Dexx]

So what if it's just War? Doesn't always have to be Politics.

[Daypitoum]

Why all the hate ?

Go go Merciless, probably the last alliance up there trying to play a challenging game
I would come back if I could actually ship spin :p

[Smuggo]

Garst - this isn't personal, but your Battle Reports are kind of hinting at Merciless' lack of relevance at the moment.

Wheras the acquisition of more botting space for your Russian overlords is incredibly relevant amirite?

[Liptonez]

If I want to read about small gang PVP I read FHC, if I want to read about sov warfare elite PVP, I read Kugutsumen.

Seems that all threads but low sec/WH lack real interesting content though, can't deny that.

[Helen]

If I want to read about small gang PVP I read FHC, if I want to read about sov warfare elite PVP, I read Kugutsumen.

Seems that all threads but low sec/WH lack real interesting content though, can't deny that.

There is a reason for this.

[Brother G]

Garst - this isn't personal, but your Battle Reports are kind of hinting at Merciless' lack of relevance at the moment.

Well not everyone is running round in a superblob atm!

I have always found Garst's reports interesting and informative about the region's goings on, who cares how relevant they are to you now? :-p

[ry ry]

The reason Merciless aren't relevant is because it's not really about being relevant. With a handful of notable exceptions, current 0.0 relevance pretty much equates to taking space and deploying large numbers of supers. Part of the reason we lost so many corps at the end of Northern War IIIXV seems to have been because when the dust finally settled and our former blues had finished dividing up our assets between them, it became apparent that we were not going to persue relevance.

Swings and roundabouts really, some people like epic fights with hundreds of participants, others prefer grubby backally knife fights. Tried the former, prefer the latter.

[Smuggo]

Swings and roundabouts really, some people like pussy, others prefer big gruff bear cock. Tried the former, prefer the latter.

FYP ;)

[ROX Genghis]

Here's a post I put on another site about a month ago that seems to be relevant to the issue of relevance.

"Relevant" , "important", and "matter" are a funny terms to describe Eve alliances. To most, they mean "capable of affecting the 0.0 landscape." The thing is, who really cares about affecting nullsec politics and sov? Mostly it's a few egoist empire builders and the rest are carebears. PVPers are just along for the ride because they feel they have to blob to be successful.

Alliances like Merciless don't really care about being relevant; they really do just want the cliche'd "good fights". I think Jester mentioned Merciless because they are one of the few new alliances in this category that have had some success. Previously extant ones include Rooks & Kings, Black Legion, Darkside, Agony, C02, Hydra Reloaded, etc. Just because these alliances aren't building pixel empires doesn't mean they are shit. It means they want to have fun flying their internet spaceships instead of dealing with sov and politics.

These alliances have discovered something that most nullsec residents don't realize: you don't have to blob to be successful or have fun. It's more rewarding to be good at what you do, to fight outnumbered, to innovate tactics, to bond with a smaller group, etc. I would much rather watch a RNK video, or see Hydra in the Alliance Tournament, or read a Merciless battle report, than click refresh on the influence map and read troll posts about which corp jumped from one blobby alliance to another so they could PVE in peace.

[Liptonez]

Here's a post I put on another site about a month ago that seems to be relevant to the issue of relevance.

"Relevant" , "important", and "matter" are a funny terms to describe Eve alliances. To most, they mean "capable of affecting the 0.0 landscape." The thing is, who really cares about affecting nullsec politics and sov? Mostly it's a few egoist empire builders and the rest are carebears. PVPers are just along for the ride because they feel they have to blob to be successful.

Alliances like Merciless don't really care about being relevant; they really do just want the cliche'd "good fights". I think Jester mentioned Merciless because they are one of the few new alliances in this category that have had some success. Previously extant ones include Rooks & Kings, Black Legion, Darkside, Agony, C02, Hydra Reloaded, etc. Just because these alliances aren't building pixel empires doesn't mean they are shit. It means they want to have fun flying their internet spaceships instead of dealing with sov and politics.

These alliances have discovered something that most nullsec residents don't realize: you don't have to blob to be successful or have fun. It's more rewarding to be good at what you do, to fight outnumbered, to innovate tactics, to bond with a smaller group, etc. I would much rather watch a RNK video, or see Hydra in the Alliance Tournament, or read a Merciless battle report, than click refresh on the influence map and read troll posts about which corp jumped from one blobby alliance to another so they could PVE in peace.

Don't get me wrong, but out of those alliances you named all are "blobbers". Some of those alliances may be good on individual level, but... R&K are famous for their BS/T3/cap support/unbreakable tank fleets, black legion never PVP outside of daily 02:00 tengu/muninn ops, Darkside are real good PVPers, but not exceptionally good taking aside their 30 man kite blob (angel ship good pretty much), Agony do nothing but blob (idk why you are even naming these), CO2 still exist? The last time I saw them in Venal they were doing nothing really. Merciless are somewhere along the lines of all of these... I don't really recall them having tons of PVPers who know their shit in small gang PVP (15 man fleets are not small gang PVP). A few people in Hydra are the only ones who I'd consider proper PVPers that don't need a 20 man gang on their backs to win.

But I agree that alliances like all these are a lot more interesting. It's pretty much how 0.0 should be, not two 50k people blocs, but 200 alliances with 500 members each.

So much internet rage.

[Takon Orlani]

15 is kind of the minimum to do more than gank.

[ry ry]

(15 man fleets are not small gang PVP)
kinda is tbh.

quite apart from it all being very subjective, it depends on the other gangs out and about. If we could reliably find small gangs that weren't cynobait, or knew one of our local faggot collectives wasn't going to hotdrop a full-scale blob specifically to counter it, we'd take the numbers to have a small gang ~GF~ but as it stands we tend to form our fleets around targets coming up in intel. Normally we leave as soon as we've got a fleet that isn't likely to whelp itself rather than hanging around to Bring The Numbers anyway.

Here's a recent example of what i'm talking about - Last night we found a 40 man IRC drake gang holed up in m-o 15w, so natrually we assembled an overpowered fleet that would completely decimate the kinetic missile spewing bricks (vagabonds being the obvious choice ;)) but after a few minutes of foreplay it became apparent the pos held more interest for then than our 11 man fleet.

On the way back we had a decent scrap with CO2 (http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=29543) who we though outnumbered us, but the BR says otherwise. We were sat at zero on the gate when the cyno falcon came through. we decloaked it and it went down before their whole gang was in without lighting a cyno, so whether we created a gf or CO2 brought one is still open to debate. After we'd finished looting the field, the IRC in drakes finally tired of doing whatever 40 drake gangs do whilst sitting at a pos, and jumped in as we jumped out. As we left the next system local spiked with goons but we were down a scimmy + sabre and decided discretion was the better part of valour rather than trying to force a 3way we'd end up losing.

Whilst it'd have been great to take out a 3 man local rep BS gang or whatever, even if we'd have won the first fight with the two falcons, one of the other two gangs would have caught us. honestly, if there is some pvp nivarna where people only ever fly fleet comps you want to fight with your favourite ships we're all ears.

[Smuggo]

15 is kind of the minimum to do more than gank.

Not so Takon. 5 guys can mess with blobs, probably more easily than 15 TBH as you've got less fleet members to screw something up. 15 is a mid-size gang.

[Takon Orlani]

Well its close to the minimum, and like he said it depends on what you're up against.

[Smuggo]

Yeah of course. Considering your main targets are gonna be IRC, goons and friends, all of which bring megablobs, 15 is comparitively small.

[Garst Tyrell]

Garst - this isn't personal, but your Battle Reports are kind of hinting at Merciless' lack of relevance at the moment.

Merciless is irrelevant to everyone except Merciless and the people on our overview

Exactly how we want it right now

[Takon Orlani]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/Takon074/ohwow.png

So i hear people like good fights...
(frigate gang tackles a broadsword... he cynoes in 3 cariers + falcon)

[Helen]

You know I'm sure you posted that with the intention people would post after you saying "amen brother" or something but you went looking for what? An "honorable" fight with goons? Let's get real here and instead of posting whines post some BRs instead.

[Sponk]

See, if you were in a freighter....

[Liptonez]

So i hear people like good fights...
(frigate gang tackles a broadsword... he cynoes in 3 cariers + falcon)

Welcome to 2007.

[jonesbones]

So you're upset your 10 man gang didn't get to rape a solo Broadsword? Man I love frig roams, but to complain that you didn't get to complete a gank is........LOL.

[Takon Orlani]

So you're upset your 10 man gang didn't get to rape a solo Broadsword? Man I love frig roams, but to complain that you didn't get to complete a gank is........LOL.
Actually we expected to kill any help that came to save his dumb ass. However he was a massive faggot as the screenshot clearly shows.

[Astro]

He had two options:

1. Die.
2. Cyno in whatever he had on the other end.

Most people don't like to die.

[Tropic9]

He had two options:

1. Die.
2. Cyno in whatever he had on the other end.

Most people don't like to die.
Which is why most people are bad at pvp in eve too.

[Grarr Dexx]

Kinda moving away here from valid discussion.

[Garst Tyrell]

Venal has woken up a bit. Whats left of SPLR is living in h-pa and a greek alliance named hell4s is fighting circle of two, which is suddenly active again in pf- though I cant say Ive really been following that. Cartel is still around and there still plenty of random alts and people moving around.

Pretty blueballed by splr today. We jumped a 15 man gang into the pipe next to their home system on the way to tribute to roam. A splr gang of equal size and mirror ships suddenly jumped into our local, saw us, no troll they actually ran back to their home system and stood down. Im not being smug, but my god, grow some balls splr, that was probably the most equal fight youll get this month. :eveonline: or better yet :human nature:

RZR is still shit sitting on a leviathan in their new station as goon pets (proud 'partners' with all their mighty -.2 truesec systems in pb) and hotdropping on anything they can for 'gfs'. Its gotten pathetically predictable and after they dropped on us today we trolled them by killing their cyno broadsword who they left alone to die while their fleet ran around in a circle.

In yet another psyduck moment IRC brought a 100man abaddon fleet to our home pocket as we were coming back from the tribute roam and a skirmish with iegex/razor. They flew to n5y, sat on a gate for 30 mins doing nothing, and then started to fly back home as their SHOW OF FORCE™ op was a success (I guess).

We had a ton of fun in nanohacs racing down down into their fleet as they warped off, trapping stragglers to kill while using dictor bubbles to keep their main fleet from warping back. After probing a couple logoffskis I think we ended up culling a bit over 1/10th their fleet when it was all said and done, which can you see on our killboard if so inclined: http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=home

Just another day in EVE

[Jol]

I thought I would drop in and try my hand at giving a BR for a roam we took a few nights ago. This is my first time writing one of these so apologies for atrociousness. A heads up: I wrote this up awhile back but never posted it due to the password retrieval issues the forums were having, so its a tad out of date.

A bit of background on Maelstrom Crew: Most of us got our start pirating/mercing/griefing. We started mercing again together in the corp Tier 1. and briefly joined Snatch Victory. A bunch of us had a talk and decided that empire had gotten pretty stale and decided to move to Venal. We decided upon NPC Null after hearing rumor of GOOD FIGHTS. We picked up all our shit, loaded it into our few carriers jumped it out to Venal to see what kind of trouble we could get in and get our feet wet. Been there about a month and a half at this point and have been getting some pretty decent fights lately (mostly fucking with CO2, IRC and others nearby). We often roam into drone space as CO2 and other venal peeps are usually able to respond rapidly to us.

ANYWAY, I hop on about a half hour before our scheduled roam time a little over a week ago. I had been unable to play for a few weeks and while taking the requisite shit for that, one of our pilots reports a Pest, Phoon, and nemesis have engaged his cane on our NPC station. We quickly rallied and undocked an RR Phoon and a Nemesis to join our armor cane. Seeing the need for dps I hop in my Abbadon to provide it.

They stayed engaged until the reps from our phoon stabilized our armor cane and then de-aggressed. Got the Tempest, barely missed the phoon ( he docked in low hull) and our cane pilot managed to snag the nemesis( which I gladly whored on). http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=55

Not a great fight but still a good start to the night. The rest of our members trickle on and we hop into our typical roaming set-up, a mix of armor/shield canes and a broadsword, and start heading out towards IRC space. We quickly move out of the area before they reach for the CO2 bat phone to camp us in system. On the way out we cross-jump a random cane, and bat him back and forth between two sides of a gate for a drawn-out, yet satisfying gank. http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=57

Seeing a jump bridge in system and suspecting a blob we quickly move onwards towards IRC space, checking belts/anoms along the way and missing the usual bots/TOTALLY REAL PEOPLE before we come up to a big ratting/anom system for IRC. We pile into the system and warp to our gank spot off the station and bubble up. 3-5 ratting chimeras/thannies warp to the station, unfortunately directly opposite where we're set-up. we move off and come back more in-line with where they warped from. We bookmark the spot and head out, fully intending to circle around, wait a few minutes and then try to catch them at the new spot. We move into a neighboring system and make the long warp to our next gate (118 Au). While shooting the shit on our out-gate we get +1 IRC in system. Seeing the opportunity for another gank, we align back to the previous gate, pulse mwd, and set up a bubble.

Local spikes, and in a few seconds we see an abbadon on scan. We were looking for a fight, so we keep the bubble up and wait for it to land. It does, and a few seconds later so does the rest of the IRC fleet, another Abbadon, an onyx, 2 canes, and a drake. A tackle raptor jumps in from the out-gate and our fc begins to call primaries.
The abbadon was our initial primary so FC continues on that and reminds everyone to watch transversal. Seeing the crow 30km off and expecting him to be overconfident, we quickly lock him. We switch off the abbadon for a cycle and pop him for neglecting to watch his own transversal (http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=61) The abbadon quickly follows (http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=60).

Next, our FC moves onto the BCs, and politely reminds us to ensure we're spreading our points. We move for high dps first, attacking and quickly popping a cane (http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=62). Next up is the drake, who attempts to pull range but isn't quite fast enough (http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=65).
During these three kills they've managed to pop one of our armor canes (http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=63) and drive off one of our shield canes in extremely low hull. This leaves the fight at 3 canes and a broadsword against a cane, abbadon, and onyx. The odds swing highly in our favor as their final cane is quickly finished off (http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=64). We tighten our orbit on the last abbadon and neut him out quickly. As he drops(http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=67) the onyx makes a break for it but I move to keep a point, and he drops (http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=69).

We hold the field, check our losses and quickly loot. Moving back to the gate, one of our armor canes jumps to find another 10-15 IRC drakes/canes and assorted tackle waiting for us on the other side. He quickly burns back to the gate (surprisingly none of them have a scram) and jumps back into our side. 6-8 of the BCs that didn't aggress him and a tackle Dramiel follow. Seeing no chance for warping off, he aligns, overheats his mwd, and tries to kite. The dramiel quickly establishes a tackle and the drake blobs begins pounding away. The dramiel (again, neglecting transversal) pursues our friendly cane. Our pilot quickly moves to neut him out, and the point drops. Just as our cane begins to warp the point is suddenly reestablished and just as suddenly drops. Our cane warps off and we hightail it home.

We didn't realize until half-way home that the dramiel actually popped. By re-pointing our cane the Dramiel essentially killed himself as it gave the 5 warrior IIs another shot, which popped him.
Total exchange: http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=69

This all probably doesn't seem significant (lord knows we're not "relevant" under any definition) to a lot of people but it does prove that for those not greatly experienced in null-sec that there is definitely a place for a few (read; 7) peeps to fuck with much bigger entities, as many of their pilots are less than stellar (as evidence by some of the fits). I figured with some of the discussion in this thread concerning the lack of BRs and deriding small gangs(10 at most imo, least for out here) as being unable to garner decent fights anymore, that this would be relevant. Fights seem pretty easy to get (at least easier than low and empire) as long as you're willing to engage fleets bigger than you and risk losing assets. http://maelstrom-crew.net/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5098 for example (full disclosure: the kb isn't showing the other 2 canes we lost there)

[Daneel Trevize]

Nice little read, ty.

[ROX Genghis]

Nice work. Good to see independents operating in Venal.

[Liptonez]

IRC. :facepalm:

Indeed very nice to see some new people around, especially in Venal.

[Takon Orlani]

Venal desperately needed this. Too bad I'm not there anymore.

[Helen]

In that BR you state you had both shield and armor canes? Why do you have mixed fleet doctrines?

[Xarthaginian]

Best of luck MCREW, good bunch of people.

[Garst Tyrell]

INIT has done a light deployment with themselves /imercs to n5y. They have spent their first couple days up here reinforcing ncdot tech moons.

If their plan was to run away from the blobs down south to get good fights up here, im not sure shooting tech moons is a good way to discourage people from blobbing/supercap swarming your alliance. I guess well see

[BuRniZZ]

It's just fun to mix it up a little bit.

[Garst Tyrell]

INIT/INIT Mercs while vacationing in venal reinforced 3 tech moons, starting with one of ours. Seeing their euro blob we stronted the tower for a us prime timer in order to get a more even fight, if that was even possible. What started as a likely difficult defense for us turned into 4 hours of interesting twists and turns, ironically none of them involving INIT who didn not deign to form for the timer.

Merciless formed about 30 including alts in fleet in an abaddon defense fleet and prepared to move to the tower, wary of an INIT logon trap as sister bliss was idling the dest system. As the pos came out of RF to my dismay I found that the tower immediately went offline lol. Yup my bad, when I was leveling the pos fuel levels and picking up the tech before the fight I forgot to put the mechanical parts back in, and since the pos was in RF, no low fuel messages were sent out. Eh after a year of pos warfare I guess I was overdue to fuck up B)

As we rushed over an opportunistic 60man IRC drake/hurricane fleet appeared in intel and burnt straight to our tower and began to shoot it now that the shields were down. A brief war of positioning occurred as we prepared to juke them out and jump our fleet into local without grid loading into a camp, however this proved unnecessary as they warped off the gate to the tower giving us entry. Seconds before they warped back to the tower for the final time, one of our pos alts managed to take the missing fuel from the safe'd hauler and online the tower, warping out as the irc fleet landed on top. Sadly without power we couldnt use the pos guns I hero repped earlier in the weekend. :'(

Fleet warping 30km away from the center of their fleet, we engaged and deployed a triage carrier to even the odds a bit. Our first guardian died a martyr's death, unfortunately loading grid and landing before the rest of us. Over the next 15-20 mins we successfully fought off the irc fleet and held the field with a fleet a third their size and only about 10-12 dps ships, much to my surprise as I was a bit skeptical.

Inevitably as our triage carrier was seconds away from ending his cycle and jumping out, a TNT and a FCON cyno opened up at pings on the pos. Knowing what was obviously coming next but with no dictors to do some defensive bubbling, the enemy fleets titan bridged in and tackled our fleet. The shields went online as soon as the cyno went up and we attempted to burn into the shields or warp away, losing the carrier, my loki, and some abaddons in the process as we were strung out from the shields and bubbled. Meh vOv

As we left the field to regroup, TNT and FCON each in their own 50 man fleets, began to shoot the tower. Props to TNT and FCON, I think that is the first time I've seen them in solid fleet comps comprised of their alliances only, rather than just joining some coalition fleet. FCON ran drakes/tengus and TNT brought AC canes/pests.

We reshipped to nanohacs to start straggler hunting, a favorite venal pass time, but received word that IRC/NCDOT (who are blue to each other) were preparing to bridge onto the tnt/fcon fleet. Some positioning battles started again, with the final confrontation occurring in HBD next door as IRC bcs and ncdot abaddons jumped into their fleets. We took our nanohacs in at range, helping to snag a few kiting logi and distract the tnt fleet. The TNT fleet was destroyed while FCON managed to extract themselves mostly intact and safe up in a pos in the dest system.

Now things turned quite boring for everyone as we rushed to rep up the pos, which was left in half hull before the fight started (!). Of course this took ages because who ever has enough shield triage carriers to go around? NCDOT camped the FCON fleet in their pos, reinforcing it for shits and giggles before heading home after IRC. FCON warped over to our pos after ncdot left to shoot us with one volley and then fly home. We feared they might be baiting our carriers to go back into triage as they left, but they never returned, their occator decloaking off the pos at a ping (with their replacement tower no doubt) and following them home.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10736884 SBL5
http://northern-coalition.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=87492 HBD

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5532/20111001154025.jpg before we repped the shields/armor, courtesy of your friendly neighborhood PL local observer

GF to everyone involved

=====================

This has nothing to do with us nor do I claim to know the story behind it, but pretty obviously hell4s tried to bash a co2 pos in their home system which they have been fighting for control over and it didnt go well. No one else is posting on this thread so I may as well throw it up:

http://www.hellas-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=7208

I think co2 has 1/3 of eve's hel population on that battle report ("CCP > working as intended")

[Varesk]

In that BR you state you had both shield and armor canes? Why do you have mixed fleet doctrines?

MCREW allows it pilots to fly what they feel comfortable with. As long as the ship is the right the tank can be what the pilot feels comfortable with. The only exception is when we do have logi. With a maxed out fleet of 7 people we usually fly with just a buffer tank and no logi.





This has nothing to do with us nor do I claim to know the story behind it, but pretty obviously hell4s tried to bash a co2 pos in their home system which they have been fighting for control over and it didnt go well. No one else is posting on this thread so I may as well throw it up:

http://www.hellas-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=7208

Hellas moved in about a month ago and have been messing around with c02 reinforcing a POS or two and playing station games. The local smack is pretty bad with a mixture of broken english and bad puns. Like clockwork C02 will incap all the guns on a Hellas POS and then log off their super carriers. This usually happens in US TZ. C02 have removed one Hellas tower out of the three. I am unsure if it has been replaced.

C02 outnumbers Hellas on any given day and time yet they really havent dont anything until the previous battle report.

[Garst Tyrell]

its been the highest number of co2 Ive seen around in a long time, logged in let alone in fleet if you dont count all the backwater macros in SRBI corp. Looks like some old wepra friends/alts (now in white noise) are with them as well in a neut corp helping out. Shame co2 plays station camping games all day instead of roaming

Also Cartel. moved back to curse

[Micha L]

Hi

Let me give you some intel on what happened in PF- .
Hella-s RF CO2 medium tower for 4 or 5 th. time. Like every time we announced Alliace op to rep and def. tower. Hour before tower came out of RF solar fleet hade roaming gang about 30+ passes PF- so we try to catch them together with Hellas. Solar didnt want to fight and they left, so we try to followed them but they were to fast for heavy abadon gang. We then stop in ZO- on VG- gate two jumps from PF- and wait for pos to come out. Scouts raported Hellas undoking and warping to their pos in abadons and dreds Erebus and Mothership online. At thet moment we know it will be some good fight. POS came out from and Hellas warped 5 dreds 4 carriers and suport fleet (BS .....) to POS and start shooting. We jumped to VG- and warped to PF- as we landed on gate Hellas dramiel jumped in VG-, shit they know thet we coming! We jump to PF- and warped to scout 30km from them, meantime our Motherships and Titans start to log in and warping to spots around POS. Battle took 10 min close range pounding, DD-ing some dreds. As soon as we clr the field we killd old tower and put new one. We hoped thet they will bring supers on filed but thet didnt happened.
Like Varesk sed Hellas move to PF- a month ago and since then its hit and run tactics, small battles like 20 vs 20 but nothing like this big. EXP:

http://www.eve-co2.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=155854

Normally Hellas sit in POS and waithing for solo ship to agro and just warp 13 tempest to snipe him then go back to POS and wait. Dont want to spit on Hellas they are good group of pvp-s(Greeks), rumor is thet they are alt alliace of Razor, but thet is just a rumor. Many people talk shit about CO2 to, just empty words.
Maelstrom Crew some bomber runs to help Hellas, local chat, and solo Huric warping to pos ;)
Same old Garst Tyrell, indid best battle raports and SRBI macros :facepalm: some things never change. Yes alot of people show up. For your information corps in CO2 operate freely all over eve. Btw. thx for holding Venal trade alive.

I almost forgot, sorry for my broken English :guinness:

[Jol]

In that BR you state you had both shield and armor canes? Why do you have mixed fleet doctrines?

Apologies for the late reply, had a lot of non-Eve related shit going on. Varesk is right on this, MCREW pilots fly what they want (within reason of course). We usually don't have the numbers for logistics and since most of us have flown together for at least a year we all trust each other. At times it helps and at times it hurts. Having shield canes to burn to falcons, kite and provide great dps is great and having armor canes that can take a beating is as well. As long as those of us in shield ships (Zero tank Max gank harb is great fun) know how to fly our ships and don't automatically run if the armor gets caught (again, trust) things usually work out fine.

[Elessar Elian]

In the recent battle of PF-QHK October 1st, HELL4S alliance forces where confronted by the (at that time superior) BS fleet of CO2.
Battle was leaning toward us, despite the superior numbers of CO2, until they escalated with 2 Titans and 4 Motherships. With them wapred in a small "hotdrop" squad of xXDEATHXx, consisting of dictors,HICs and a recon.

At this point it was clear that CO2 had xXDEATHXx support, indicating cooperation/collaboration to some extend. While we were prepared for the CO2 fleet (as our intel was accurate), we were not prepared to face the combined forces of CO2 + xXDEATHXx. Thus we decided not to further escalate and we lost the fleet in the process, guns blazing and all.

Needless to say, HELL4S has nothing to do with Razor alliance. No mains, no alts, no ties.

[o2_macrominer]

Patience, just wait 'till those 2 titans die in fire, and since there are no more frekies to sell...
Btw, why do u think co2 was forced into venal, to have gf's ?

Almost forgot: sori for maj broken inglis

[Helen]

Patience, just wait 'till those 2 titans die in fire, and since there are no more frekies to sell...
Btw, why do u think co2 was forced into venal, to have gf's ?

Almost forgot: sori for maj broken inglis

No one gets forced into Venal...

[John Pope]

CO2 are apparently moving out of Venal, a lot of logistics take place in the past couple of days . Idk where they heading or if they are slowly failcascading. The random pick-up kills around PF and the endless docking games / titan bridges instead of boosting their ego, worked the other way around. Remains to be seen.

[frsd]

CO2 are apparently moving out of Venal, a lot of logistics take place in the past couple of days . Idk where they heading or if they are slowly failcascading. The random pick-up kills around PF and the endless docking games / titan bridges instead of boosting their ego, worked the other way around. Remains to be seen.

Last I saw Hell4s was roaming into drone regions while Co2 was camping an almost empty station with vindis and a handful of carriers. It would be strange for them to leave after having staring contests with eachother for weeks :).

Also, for the first time I know Hell4s left PF- with a proper gang and gave us a visit. Sadly we were almost outnumbered 3:1, and after they found out dampening our Guardians with no scripts was reducing our lock time they managed to alpha a few of our A-HAC's.

[John Pope]

CO2 are apparently moving out of Venal, a lot of logistics take place in the past couple of days . Idk where they heading or if they are slowly failcascading. The random pick-up kills around PF and the endless docking games / titan bridges instead of boosting their ego, worked the other way around. Remains to be seen.

Last I saw Hell4s was roaming into drone regions while Co2 was camping an almost empty station with vindis and a handful of carriers. It would be strange for them to leave after having staring contests with eachother for weeks :).

Also, for the first time I know Hell4s left PF- with a proper gang and gave us a visit. Sadly we were almost outnumbered 3:1, and after they found out dampening our Guardians with no scripts was reducing our lock time they managed to alpha a few of our A-HAC's.

Been waiting for you guys to make an appearance in/around PF- just so you can back up your words but I've been let down.

[frsd]

CO2 are apparently moving out of Venal, a lot of logistics take place in the past couple of days . Idk where they heading or if they are slowly failcascading. The random pick-up kills around PF and the endless docking games / titan bridges instead of boosting their ego, worked the other way around. Remains to be seen.

Last I saw Hell4s was roaming into drone regions while Co2 was camping an almost empty station with vindis and a handful of carriers. It would be strange for them to leave after having staring contests with eachother for weeks :).

Also, for the first time I know Hell4s left PF- with a proper gang and gave us a visit. Sadly we were almost outnumbered 3:1, and after they found out dampening our Guardians with no scripts was reducing our lock time they managed to alpha a few of our A-HAC's.

Been waiting for you guys to make an appearance in/around PF- just so you can back up your words but I've been let down.

So we can threeway your permanent station camp? Back before we certainly knew there the area around was dead or full of bots, we went through PF- multiple times, only to find multiple carriers on scan on the station. Neither you or CO2 even checked us out.

I don't like staring at stations waiting for my targets to undock, and once they do with the exact counter.

[Zeekar]

you should BR the roam/fight with Hell4s on FHC :D

Ill post this br in here since it affects hellas even tho the fight happened in M-O.

I took out a corp roam yesterday to test out the new tier3 bcs, the gang was around 17 including scouts. As soon as we undocked I saw reports in the intel channel about a 22 man hell4s gang with 4 logistics runinng around H-W. Since my corp has found memories about that area all the way to M-O we decided we will go for it. We caught up with Hell4s in M-O on the taisy gate and indeed they were as strong as it was said in the report. We positioned our selves out on range but to my surprise greeks decided they will bail and they jumped out into taisy.
I found that a bit disappointing and went to search for new gang to kill, but with the map acting like a cunt it took me a good minute just to load it and in that time greeks jumped back into us and went to reposition on a on grid ping spot. In the process they managed to lose their first hurricane.

http://kb.raidenalliance.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=43100

While we were trying to get a warpin on them they did us the favour and warped on us. We proceeded to burn a bit and exchange shots between us and managed to snag 3 hurricanes. After that they repositioned themselves again on their ping spot.
As soon as i got a hit on them they warped on our lachesis who had a mayor derp moment and burned out of rep range. Before we could position ourselves he died but we managed to kill in the end another 8 of their ships. At that point hellas saw they were loosing the battle with very few kills and we had no dictors that could keep them tackled so they bailed. GF's were exchanged in local and we proceeded to continue our roam into other regions and greeks went on their own way.

All in all we killed 11 ships and lost one major derper.

http://kb.raidenalliance.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=43100

Would fight again.

[John Pope]

CO2 are apparently moving out of Venal, a lot of logistics take place in the past couple of days . Idk where they heading or if they are slowly failcascading. The random pick-up kills around PF and the endless docking games / titan bridges instead of boosting their ego, worked the other way around. Remains to be seen.

Last I saw Hell4s was roaming into drone regions while Co2 was camping an almost empty station with vindis and a handful of carriers. It would be strange for them to leave after having staring contests with eachother for weeks :).

Also, for the first time I know Hell4s left PF- with a proper gang and gave us a visit. Sadly we were almost outnumbered 3:1, and after they found out dampening our Guardians with no scripts was reducing our lock time they managed to alpha a few of our A-HAC's.

Been waiting for you guys to make an appearance in/around PF- just so you can back up your words but I've been let down.

So we can threeway your permanent station camp? Back before we certainly knew there the area around was dead or full of bots, we went through PF- multiple times, only to find multiple carriers on scan on the station. Neither you or CO2 even checked us out.

I don't like staring at stations waiting for my targets to undock, and once they do with the exact counter.

We don't do permanent station camps nor play carrier docking games, you are confusing us with CO2.

Also, last i checked you are doing a lot of "they have these ships let's undock in the exact counter" around your home system and that is IF you undock at all.

[frsd]

No I tend not to undock without having atleast half as many as my enemy or for obvious bait.

[Elessar Elian]

Good, now that we've managed to understand why some fights simply dont/wont happen, stop whining about them and read the damn killboards for those that do.

[Elessar Elian]

The last weekend was an interesting one in Venal. HELL4S moved against CO2 assets in order to force the, preoccupied with station games, alliance to fight. And fights did happen, unexpected yet after all welcome three/four-way fights have put our fleet to the test.

Friday, December 2nd
Venal

19.30 GMT
HELL4S capital and subcapital fleet forms up to reinforce CO2 towers once again, in hopes of getting a decent fight from them instead of their usual and rather boring docking games.
As the fleet undocks, a small CO2 station camp is instantly cleared up. Dreads jump in N0C-UN and lay siege on their POS. In the meantime, the support fleet takes position in the system.

20.30 GMT
CO2 are reported to undock with battleships and no logistics whatsoever, heading to N0C-UN. HELL4S Carriers are ready to jump in, although a hostile cloaky dictor unsuccesfully tries to bubble them inside the POS.

20.40 GMT
After waiting for a while behind the gate, CO2 finally jump in the system. We cyno in three of our triage carriers, and they begin to repair. Within the first two minutes, 7 hostile battleships are destroyed, with only one battleship loss on behalf of HELL4S. The order given by the capital FC is “siege green”. The massacre went on for about 5 minutes, with a backdrop of CO2 faction and standard battleships being melted down by HELL4S’s superior forces. 7 battleships managed to escape; for they deagressed and jumped back.
http://www.hellas-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11051

20.50 GMT
HELL4S loots the field, while the dreads get the job done, reinforcing the POS.

The fleet went on and reinforced two more towers. CO2 didn't bother to undock again, although in the heart of the night, long after our common Prime time with CO2 (alarm clock?), they amassed a fleet and reinforced one HELL4S POS.

[Elessar Elian]

Saturday, December 3rd
N0C-UN

18:45 GMT
The HELL4S fleet consists of 9 Dreads, 6 Carriers, 35 BS, some support, 65 in total and is ready to cyno in as the CO2 POS comes out of RF. Dreads siege, BS+support take tactical positions between the carriers and the dreads.

18:50 GMT
A hostile cyno lights up and 90 CO2+friends bridge in 200km away. 5 Carriers, 10 guardians, rest armor BSs. Local count is now upwards 150. Our fleet is prepared and bloodthirsty, battlecoms enforced.

18:52 GMT
Local spike, count is now at 250+ as a fleet of 100 Goons/TNT/Fatal, mainly Battlecruisers, jump in. We are now facing more than 200 hostiles and pilots get nervous. The FC decides that “we will stand our ground, make them bleed”, weapons hot. The sieging Dreads primary the hostile Carriers, the BS wing starts working the enemy BS/BC and our Carriers enter Triage, sweating bullets to keep us alive.

19:02 GMT
10 really long minutes have passed and although we’ve lost 3 Carriers and many BSs, the reps hold, dps is now more manageable. Our sieging Dreads have killed all their Carriers and pointed their guns towards the BSs. The BS wing is doing an excellent job working on their target list, enemy numbers drop fast. Local count is now 190.

19:15 GMT
As the battle rages on, HELL4S fleet has suffered heavy losses, fighting outnumbered 3:1. The CO2 fleet is devastated: only a few remain, but we’re still facing 100 Goons (and friends).

19:20 GMT
HELL4S fallen pilots have reshipped and are waiting to rejoin the fight. Meanwhile another cyno lights up, 600km away from our fleet! A 60 man Raiden. fleet jumps in, consisting of tengus & scimitars. They engage the Goon fleet as our Dreads kill the CO2 POS and the remaining BSs finish off CO2.

19:26 GMT
Our Dreads cyno out and the rest of the fleet withdraws shortly after. The fight is over and congratulations are in order, we fought against over 200 in a very tense three/four-way fight, completing our primary objective.

It was a fight against all odds, but HELL4S is used to fighting outnumbered, proving that in some cases, dedication is much more important than numbers.

GF to all involved, props to CO2 for bringing it.

[Skyly]

Sounds like fun, got a kb link for N0C-UN fight on Sat?

[Elessar Elian]

http://www.hellas-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11683

There you go but as you know, all multi-way fights show messed up in KBs.

[dongbutte]

We didn't shoot you dudes so don't try pretend. We were asking for fc/diplo to let us kill all your dreads :D

[Elessar Elian]

Read again please.

[Garst Tyrell]

someone from merciless write a fucking BR please

[Garst Tyrell]

someone from merciless write a fucking BR please

dont mind if I do.

Last night after a short alliance meeting I threw up a roughly ~50man Merciless AHAC gang. Keep in mind we are about a 200man alliance on paper so that turnout made me quite happy and set the tone for the rest of a really fun pvp night.

Our goals were basically:
1 ) go shoot TEST maelstroms pos bashing in vale
2 ) poke around lowsec and try to get a large alliance to form and fight our admittedly large roaming gang

Sadly the TEST fleet we had eyes on finished and stood down before we could get to them, however much to my delight my scout cross jumped a roughly 40 man LAWN tempest/tornado/cane gang heading straight for us. Challenge accepted :)

Sitting on the d7 gate in h-w, their fleet sat at 0 while the Merciless ahacs sat on the other side. Quickly jumping in a few bait ships to see if LAWN was going to run or not, they started to aggroe our bait in h-w and I called for the fleet to jump in and engage. It turned out that the only ones aggressing us were about half a dozen LAWN guys with no firing discipline, and we quickly killed all of them while the LAWN fleet crossjumped us back into d7. We pursued to d7- hot on their heels and we both jumped at the same time into wh-. Realizing they were tackled they finally decided to engage while kiting off; we killed a few more before they ran and started safing up. GF

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12039558 H-W
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=12039555 Else

That appetizer gobbled up we turned around to burn back to venal as one of our backscouts reported a ~40man -a- drake/tengu gang, no doubt coming towards us as we had been looking at an -a- inty hanging around us for the last few minutes. After a brief standoff while warpins were made, we jumped our ahacs into the drake gang at long range to the gate and fleet warped on top of them. Admittedly the warpin wasn't ideal and by then my scout alt had inevitably died afk on a gate while I called targets with LAWN (fml) and I just wanted to get us onto the enemy fleet before they lost their nerve.

Warping on top of the main blob of drakes, as triple A had their ~8 scimitars in a separate formation another 50 behind the main fleet, we started to brawl. Logi initially held up well on both sides but I quickly realized when we couldnt break their peak reps even on a recon we would have to switch to an alpha style target calling. Switching targets and giving minimal warning we were able to start putting down enemy ships before the full reps could take hold. Seeing that the reps were no longer holding, the -a- FC called for his fleet to escape and we snagged a few more targets.

Once again we went into mop-up mode however we were more successful hunting -a- than LAWN as I was able to fairly consistently take us on top of the enemy fleet as they were trying to escape through a gate, allowing us to once again start to tackle and execute hostiles.
Doubling back to 9-2, which is about a 250au warp between gates, we rushed after -a- to the hpa gate. Knowing their recons and shinies were probably going to cap out, we quickly rushed our fleet on top of them. Exactly as I had hoped we trapped their entire fleet at 0 on the gate, hictors with logi/dps both sides to keep them from escaping. What followed was about 15 minutes of trying to juke eachother out, but we controlled the engagement and were able to catch another half dozen of them before their main fleet finally escaped to h-pa and docked up. As we were moving out again after a bio, a couple of the -a- logi eager to go home blind jumped into our fleet next door and gave us a nice chuckle as they popped. Derp.

Compliments were exchanged in local and phun timez were had, GF -a- thanks for bringing it

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=12039641
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=12040040

Once again our scouts heard that TEST had been forming up, so with renewed hopes of a maelstrom gang to bust we headed south. Sadly they disappeared and we settled for chasing a GIANTSBANE. (some kind of black legion? offshoot living in vale napped to raiden/ncdot, never heard of them before) gang of about again 40 sniper munins black legion style. I'd like to report we had epic fights with them, TEST, and anyone else in the area but the rest of the night was mainly just ganks because no one wold commit against us.

One last highlight was moving back to the GIANTSBANE vale home system as they had undocked again as we left, we were excited to scrap since they had warped to gate after our last ship. By the time we got back in they had disappeared, and it turned out they had warped to their titan and bridged into hakonen to gank like 5 TEST hurricanes or something while blueballing us. GF. We cut them off on the way home, once again juked the warpout and punished them by killing a few tackled ships before leaving.

http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=35044
+1 munin in p3

Thanks to everyone who showed up on both sides for a fun night of pvp

[Skyly]

GIANTSBANE. (some kind of black legion? offshoot living in vale napped to raiden/ncdot, never heard of them before)

GIANTSBANE. are renters.

[Baarhyn]

so what's going on there????

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12842464

[Mfume]

A fight over nothing got escalated. One side brought more titans. The other side decided to bail. Three titans decided to use the sun at 0 as a warp out. They died. Amusingly enough, one the Erebus had RF Gyros instead of FN Magstabs.

[Mr Marram]

A fight over nothing got escalated. One side brought more titans. The other side decided to bail. Three titans decided to use the sun at 0 as a warp out. They died. Amusingly enough, one the Erebus had RF Gyros instead of FN Magstabs.

This one, http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12842852
so much bad.

nearly 300bil down ...

[Daneel Trevize]

IDK which is worst, out of Mr. T2 EANM, T2 Cap Recharger, and T2 Sebo.

[Mfume]

IDK which is worst, out of Mr. T2 EANM, T2 Cap Recharger, and T2 Sebo.

How about the 2x RF Gyros on a blaster Erebus?

Also: WRT to an earlier question about Giantsbane being a Black Legion off-shoot. They aren't really, but a lot of key people in Giantsbane either were members of BL at one point or know BL from fighting against us or both.

[Badboy K]

Goon titan down in 92D-OI, venal. He jumped instead of bridged lol

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12889833

[Varesk]

This past Saturday Black Legion formed up for our daily OP. Instead ship changes were announced and we ended up Reinforcing a PL Tech moon. The tower exited reinforced on Monday. We formed up at 1900 with our pals in Monkey Circus, Sat around and waited. After a bit of idle chat on Mumble we undocked and warped to the Titan, Jumped in and started shooting the POS.

Then they cyno opened and xxDeath cynoed in a T3BC fleet at 0 then remained at around 20kms. Needless to say it was a good fight. During this fight we cynoed in 2 triage Archons. As we were fighting xxDeath the CFC fleet entered system with the Drake fleet. After a lot of fighting and losing the two Archons, and bridging replacements in, we held the field. We started to shoot the tower again and the wrecks that were around us.

The tower reached about 5% shield when the rest of the reinforcements from Delve showed up. Three cynos opened up and in they came. There were some tense moments as we were aligned out and waiting for the exit cyno. Cyno goes up as the CFC fleet lands, Carries jump out, we ping to a planet then head back to k3. PL then cynos in triage carriers and reps the POS.

At the end, CFC held the field and we had a ~goodfight~.
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=8591

[Lexa Hellfury]

What's Venal like these days? any good for ninja-ratting, or tons of fleets everywhere?

[StevieTopSiders]

What's Venal like these days? any good for ninja-ratting, or tons of fleets everywhere?

BL. and xDeath are the two entities I hear of getting lots of action in Venal. However, why you would need to go "ninja-ratting" instead of missioning is beyond me.

[Sponk]

Last time I flew past 6NJ there were two dozen xxdeath in station.

[Varesk]

Venal will not be safe for ratters or mission runners anytime soon. Last night BL/NCDOT/NULLI went to shoot some CFC people over a TECH moon. Even though no one shot the moon, Goonswarm Federation declared that NCDOT has broke the OTECH agreement and have decided to go to war. I am expecting a big clown car of Goons/Pets to be around the area. Also Goonswarm took no time to Blue Solar. The only question remains is how long before PL/TEST are called back to the north.

[SycIh]

Venal will not be safe for ratters or mission runners anytime soon. Last night BL/NCDOT/NULLI went to shoot some CFC people over a TECH moon. Even though no one shot the moon, Goonswarm Federation declared that NCDOT has broke the OTECH agreement and have decided to go to war. I am expecting a big clown car of Goons/Pets to be around the area. Also Goonswarm took no time to Blue Solar. The only question remains is how long before PL/TEST are called back to the north.

Got any detail about this? I'm suddently interressed a ton :D

[illusionalsgcty]

Venal will not be safe for ratters or mission runners anytime soon. Last night BL/NCDOT/NULLI went to shoot some CFC people over a TECH moon. Even though no one shot the moon, Goonswarm Federation declared that NCDOT has broke the OTECH agreement and have decided to go to war. I am expecting a big clown car of Goons/Pets to be around the area. Also Goonswarm took no time to Blue Solar. The only question remains is how long before PL/TEST are called back to the north.

Got any detail about this? I'm suddently interressed a ton :D

http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=9990

It was a really nice fight. BL, NCdot and Nulli's blap dreads ate up the CFC alphafleet, but the CFC tengus proved much more resilient and able to keep range. At one point the BL/NCDOT/NULLI drakefleet was chewing through the scimitars of the tengufleet while the CFC tengus were working on the scimitars of the drakes. CFC finished off the last of the scimitars and they left the field. To their credit, they came back briefly on top of the tower without any logistics left, although they left pretty quickly after that.

TEST and Pandemic Legion will be staying in the south for now.


For those of you that don't know, Northern Coalitiondot just broke OTEC and formally opened hostilities between NCdot/ev0ke and the CFC.

In response to this TEST will be deploying to H-W9TY to reinforce two new members of the Honeybadger Coalition. GEAR UP M8s

#### SENT BY - Montolio to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:25:21 EVE Time ####
(12:25:50 AM) pleaseignore.com: line in the sand, tribute will never fall, etc etc

#### SENT BY - Richter Enderas to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:26:07 EVE Time ####
(12:26:52 AM) pleaseignore.com: Just kidding, this is what I get for letting Daley write broadcasts.

If the CFC needs us up north, expect titan chains and/or eye of terror convoys to assist with big fights.

#### SENT BY - Montolio to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:27:09 EVE Time ####

[SycIh]

Nice thanks for the info.

[Varesk]

TEST and Pandemic Legion will be staying in the south for now.


For those of you that don't know, Northern Coalitiondot just broke OTEC and formally opened hostilities between NCdot/ev0ke and the CFC.

In response to this TEST will be deploying to H-W9TY to reinforce two new members of the Honeybadger Coalition. GEAR UP M8s

#### SENT BY - Montolio to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:25:21 EVE Time ####
(12:25:50 AM) pleaseignore.com: line in the sand, tribute will never fall, etc etc

#### SENT BY - Richter Enderas to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:26:07 EVE Time ####
(12:26:52 AM) pleaseignore.com: Just kidding, this is what I get for letting Daley write broadcasts.

If the CFC needs us up north, expect titan chains and/or eye of terror convoys to assist with big fights.

#### SENT BY - Montolio to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:27:09 EVE Time ####

H-W is in the North, are they moving or staying?

Also, Evoke wasnt even there or a part of the OP last night. I am unsure what they did to break the OTECH agreement.

[Sponk]

I am unsure what they did to break the OTECH agreement.

One of these two things.

1. Attempted to take (or ninja) a CFC tech moon
2. Looked vulnerable.

[illusionalsgcty]

I am unsure what they did to break the OTECH agreement.
Attempted to take (or ninja) a CFC tech moon





TEST and Pandemic Legion will be staying in the south for now.


For those of you that don't know, Northern Coalitiondot just broke OTEC and formally opened hostilities between NCdot/ev0ke and the CFC.

In response to this TEST will be deploying to H-W9TY to reinforce two new members of the Honeybadger Coalition. GEAR UP M8s

#### SENT BY - Montolio to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:25:21 EVE Time ####
(12:25:50 AM) pleaseignore.com: line in the sand, tribute will never fall, etc etc

#### SENT BY - Richter Enderas to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:26:07 EVE Time ####
(12:26:52 AM) pleaseignore.com: Just kidding, this is what I get for letting Daley write broadcasts.

If the CFC needs us up north, expect titan chains and/or eye of terror convoys to assist with big fights.

#### SENT BY - Montolio to test-alliance @ Aug 02 2012 04:27:09 EVE Time ####

H-W is in the North, are they moving or staying?

Also, Evoke wasnt even there or a part of the OP last night. I am unsure what they did to break the OTECH agreement.

The first broadcast was a troll. We're staying deployed in Delve.