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smuggo
May 17 2011, 05:55:37 PM
The NC fc forgot to call targets as he was yelling for his to break out of the bubbles.So there was no shooting from nc for 5 minutes we just killed what we could and lol on coms.
Jesus, what kind of retards are in these fleets?


Bolded the answer for you. From listening into NC comms and recordings and even, once (never again), taking part in a fleet they seem to act in a similar fashion to a battalion of WWII Russian conscripts in which the officers have been purged and replaced with Commissars and secret police.

Discipline is harsh and anyone displaying initiative is purged.

Herschel Yamamoto
May 17 2011, 07:44:22 PM
I've flown in a couple NC fleets myself. Wasn't anything that smacked of them being crazy elite, but they weren't that bad.

Helen
May 17 2011, 08:28:58 PM
Just popped a tower in ZA0L in Vale with some dreads like 10 DRF dreads with no cyno for backup...
Had a small 7-9 man gang with 5 bombers and falcon/arazu close on us only to lose most of their fleet to dreads out of siege with many sensor boosters fit. :obama:

Was fun special mention to madposeidon1 for losing his manticore to my revelation, please don't attempt to get transveral by flying directly away from me again.

Sponk
May 18 2011, 02:24:36 AM
I've flown in a couple NC fleets myself. Wasn't anything that smacked of them being crazy elite, but they weren't that bad.

It's entirely down to the quality of the FC.

Some are literally terrible.

Marlona Sky
May 18 2011, 11:03:19 AM
I've flown in a couple NC fleets myself. Wasn't anything that smacked of them being crazy elite, but they weren't that bad.

It's entirely down to the quality of the FC.

Some are literally terrible.

This is true. Any idiot can lock the primary and F1,F2,F3...

Helen
May 18 2011, 11:17:59 AM
So as of today, JZV and MGAM are under PL control with RAGE down to just two station systems.

Seems like NC strategy is to hold on to high end moons now and try to reclaim them in Venal where possible, resulting in a clusterfuck for them like in SS-GED last night welping a fleet.

Sponk
May 19 2011, 12:19:53 AM
This is true. Any idiot can lock the primary and F1,F2,F3...
Conveniently, that's exactly who fleets up.

Daco
May 19 2011, 09:47:35 AM
Turns out I'm not quite done with this thread, no gfs in Venal but got one in Vale last night.

Alright so it has been a little while since I have written up a battlereport, but tbh I haven't had any significant enough fights that are worth a write up, also a lack of motivation to undock has been a factor. But anyway......

So Wednesday after DT there is a Roam planned to use Arty-nano-tempests, drakes and logi, the theory is to use the Tempest alpha to kill or just about kill the targets then the alpha from the Drakes missiles to finish them off, while staying at 50+km with Recons pointing and webbing.

I'm not including times of when things happen plainly because it went from 12am to 2:30am for me so I just don't remember the times also some of the events might not be accurate just because I was tired by the end of it and plainly can't remember how it exactly went :P

Also when I say I called a primary it is meaning calling it too my Huginn buddy in a private chat.

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So I jump in my Tempest and get ready to undock and warp to a titan for a bridge into Tribute, but the FC asked for a pilot to jump in a Vagabond to run as anti-tackle support so owning one of these glorious ships I put my hand up. The fc told everyone to add me to their watch list and to assign me all their Warrior II's when we go into battle, a Huginn pilot running True Sansha webs was also assigned to help me kill them. At this point I am quite excited about my new role in the fleet and I'm told to ignore the FCs primaries and think for myself, so I open a chat up with the Huginn pilot and prepare to give him primaries to web through that.

So we all head to the Titan and get ready to bridge through, at this point there is 43 in fleet but between the alt scouts we only have around 30-37 actual combat/logi ships. We bridge into tribute and head towards H-W and find a few guys along the way that we proceed to alpha and carry on. When we get 1 jump out of H-W and head to the station to see if there is anything to kill, we find a drake and he gets single shot (it was the most beautiful thing I have seen, you didn't even see him take any shield damage he just disappeared). A Abaddon proceeds to undock and we try to volly him but only get him to half armor with our volly power before he docks.

So as we're bumming around a scout says there is a 60man BC gang forming up on a titan in a POS but quite a few of them are outside the POS shields, so the order is given and we jump in and warp to the POS. We only managed to kill 2 Hurricanes before the rest of them get into the shield and they don't come back out, 60 Hurricanes/Drakes don't seem to keen on fighting 30 tempest/drakes. So we warp to a ping spot above the POS and idle there as we decide what we're going to do next. At this point a bridge goes up on the titan and the BC start jumping through so the scouts quickly open up their maps and look for cyno's within jump portal range, there turns out to be quite a few but someone spots one open in GEK so we decide to head over and have a look. We arrive there and the forward scout jumps in and is welcomed by 8 bubbles on the gate and 50 BC camping it, needless to say he doesn't make it out alive.

We aren't too keen on jumping a kiting fleet into 8 T2 large bubbles and 50 Hurricanes/Drakes so we set up at our optimal off the GEK gate and wait for them to hopefully jump into us. We sit there for around 5-10mins and the FC sends his alt into scout and we find local has dropped dramatically and no one is on gate apart from a lone Scimi, so a inty jumps in and burns out to point him and once he has gotten point we jump in and burn out of the bubble and proceed to explode his ship.

We decide to warp to a 800km ping off the gate to decide what to do when we see a arazu jump in and cloak, this gets us moving because we start expecting a fleet to bridge onto us. So we warp to the gate and start burning 60km to the gate when a Pilgrim decloaks and lights a cyno, at this point I'm thinking oh crap and the order is given to pop the Pilgrim, we pop it and no one jumps through, a nemesis then decloaks 300km off the gate and pops another cyno but still nothing comes through so we carry on burning to the gate and jump through. In the next system we get word the 60man BC gang has evolved into a 110man BC gang and is heading from H-W towards us.

So we set up on a gate at our optimals and the enemy gang jumps in. Immediately I call a dictor primary for me and the Huginn and it dies fast, then I proceed to call and inty that gets within 60km. Btw I forgot to mention the FC had said previously for everyone to put their Warriors to assist me so I had around 120warrior II's helping me out. I proceed to very quickly pop any inty coming in close and with the help from the Huginn webbing they die very quickly. With their intys not being able to get close due to me and with them losing intys/dictors at a alarming rate they call me primary but our Logi pull me back from 0% shield which got my heart pumping (even after all this time pew pewing). After that they don't point me anymore except 1 hero Hurricane that keeps shooting me throughout the whole fight. But being 80km from them he doesn't even scratch me.

At this point the pests/drakes are getting low on cap due to all the mwding and are running out of boosters so the call is made for a inty to make a rolling ping spot. We then warp out to him and start circling the enemy fleet staying around 300km away as they try and follow. We then wait until they warp to us and we make a run for the gate and start making a tactical retreat. The reason for this was: 1. We were low on logi's to start off with, only 4 Scimi's and 2. We ended up losing 2 in that fight. So we are warping and jumping then the call is made to burn off the gate and set up for another fight.

This ultimately was our fleets demise, low on cap/cap boosters and low on logi equals not a very good situation.

So the enemy jumps in and I go about killing their frigs/dictors again, I kill all of them except 2 lucky ones that escape in hull. With us taking more loses we warp out to a gate but due to aggression some of us can't jump, including me, so I warp off the gate and make a couple of SS and bounce around them. This is when we lose a good portion to the fleet, we have been rolling for a couple of hours and for me it is 2am and for the Aussies it is just going midnight. So a tired decision was made but all in all we had a damn good fight and everyone was pretty happy.

End tally, including our blunder towards the end:

Us: 40 on field
Them: 110 on field

Kills: 38
Loses: 27

Not the best K/D but most of our loses came when we were retreating.

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So yeah that was my latest exciting adventure, until next time..............

Helen
May 19 2011, 10:51:21 AM
Q3-BAY has fallen to PL with more tech captured from NC forces right before downtime hit.
RAGE is now down to the single station system of Q-EH which should be conquerable today iirc.

That's the situation in VoTS as of today.

Herschel Yamamoto
May 20 2011, 07:58:59 AM
I've mused about the idea of a Warrior II FC before - glad to hear it works.

Helen
May 20 2011, 08:09:28 AM
RAGE are no longer a serious entity after losing their last station system today in Q-EH.
Freed from the shackles of sov warfare they can now reform into a hardcore pvp elite alliance.

Helen
May 20 2011, 11:36:09 AM
Latest station addition to VotS is in http://evemaps.dotlan.net/outpost/T-GCGL

Didn't want to announce too early. :nostradamus:

Rans
May 20 2011, 11:59:30 AM
wait, stations give missions now?

Helen
May 20 2011, 12:34:19 PM
wait, stations give missions now?

No all stations will show that, they need to be populated with agents to give missions.

Traxio Nacho
May 20 2011, 02:47:09 PM
So what is the NC doing now, other than the attempt to SBU TVN (was it?) have they made any attempt to take any stations/moons back. Or are they just playing the sit there and hope the enemy get bored and go away game?

Hellkyte
May 20 2011, 03:17:02 PM
In the world of the little people:

Had an OP set up last night for some shield/logi/etc., but FC was not on time. While waiting for him to come in one of our pilots spotted a decent sized NC gang in Taisy. One heroic waffle decides that the best response to this threat is to quickly throw his lone ship directly into the enemy fleet. This does not end well.

FC finally showed up and we start messing around w/ some stuff getting ready then get word that the NC gang had gone and postured up on the Taisy gate in M-O. This makes sense of course because it works out so well for them every time they put a mixed fleet of 20 some-odd BCs/Hacs w/ no logi (seriously what?)

Our heroic FC then called out for a logi heavy fleet as we were short on numbers. W/ that we undocked 6 scimis and 6 BCs/Hacs and headed for them. Instead of trying to bait them we simply jumped our fleet straight into them and had scimis hold cloak. To their eyes we were only 12 jumping into 20. Surprisingly they did not run, because that's usually not enough of a numerical superiority for them.

BCs started in on their fleet with scimis having a difficult time keeping up due to being swarmed w/ ECM drones (good tactic actually) and lost a Cane in the opening seconds as logi had a hard time holding locks, but after tearing through a couple of their ships we could tell logi would hold. The NC gang was not so observant and stayed on the field while we slowly ripped apart the fleet. We dropped a drake, their lone scimi, a Cane, Hound, a Zealot and an ishtar. At this point they got the message and started to book it.

While not the most dramatic of victories it was a really fun fight and left us with a wonderful comedy killmail (can't link because work won't let me go to PL kb) the Ishtar who had:

3 250mm Rails
AB, disruptor, web, A tracking computer + an empty mid
DCU, 3 EANMs, and MAR.
1 rig (ACR)

Brought to you by a MM pilot called Capt Marco.

If you have pilots that are rich enough to bring Ishtars out but dumb enough to fit them like this it begs the question of how people this stupid can be this wealthy. Ah NC....

Herschel Yamamoto
May 20 2011, 07:14:54 PM
What the hell did you drop a station there for? It's not like Vale has any shortage, and I don't think that even Providence has two Gallente stations adjacent.

Helen
May 20 2011, 08:23:51 PM
What the hell did you drop a station there for? It's not like Vale has any shortage, and I don't think that even Providence has two Gallente stations adjacent.

It's all part of "The Plan".

Spacebat
May 20 2011, 10:13:59 PM
Pets need offices C/D?

teds
May 20 2011, 10:18:17 PM
you can never have enough dong stations

Herschel Yamamoto
May 20 2011, 11:22:22 PM
Well if "The Plan" involves building a factory, let me know, I have an egg for sale.

Helen
May 21 2011, 07:16:03 AM
Well if "The Plan" involves building a factory, let me know, I have an egg for sale.

Unless CCP buff the shit out of factories seems kinda pointless.

Forever Calzone
May 21 2011, 07:22:57 PM
Well if "The Plan" involves building a factory, let me know, I have an egg for sale.

Unless CCP buff the shit out of factories seems kinda pointless.

Well they are "looking at" 0.0 industry :nostradamus:

Bashiri
May 22 2011, 03:44:55 AM
Control Chaos lost a nyx and hel. We didn't get on the hel mail for pl got to it first.

http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18102 (http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18102)

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboa ... ?id=404941 (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=404941)

On a side note. NC calling for a counter strike now. Venal should be the first stop on there list before they push for vale.

Oguras
May 22 2011, 09:04:09 AM
What the hell did you drop a station there for? It's not like Vale has any shortage, and I don't think that even Providence has two Gallente stations adjacent.

I'd guess that's for jb network.. :nostradamus:

Daco
May 22 2011, 11:08:59 AM
A NC Maelstrom fleet just got whelped by a NCdot, PL, Merciless Hellcat fleet.

I was there but basically the BR was............

BLAHBLAH IS PRIMARY
NOW BLAHBLAH IS PRIMARY
NOW BLAHBLAH IS PRIMARY
NOW BLAHBLAH IS PRIMARY
NOW BLAHBLAH IS PRIMARY
etc etc

Although it was a lot of fun finally getting to fly my loki in a proper engagement, it has well and truly paid itself off. Nyx kill and a NC fleet today :)

EDIT: The battle http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=9750620

Marlona Sky
May 22 2011, 05:51:26 PM
Just raped Marwood's Leviathan titan. :D http://www.eve-razor.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=400489&nolimit

I was literally about to go to bed when I got the jabber ping. Because my luck as never, ever getting on a super cap kill mail I almost didn't log in. Then I decided, fuck it and logged in. So glad I did.

We got our Maelstroms and shit on a titan, and moments later, bridge 200km off the enemy POS. Titan was already out of the shield and bubbled to hell and back. We warp down to the POS guns rage all over Marwood's face. He went down in about a minute and a half. I think he DD'd one of our Damnations.

If your reading this NC (Razor), I just wanted to give a nice thank you. I have been waiting a long while to whore on a super cap kill mail and you made my dreams come true. :brofist: ?

Deja Thoris
May 22 2011, 06:13:47 PM
Grats on the kill. I suspect there may be one letter "h" too many in that BR.

BlueOrca
May 22 2011, 06:20:32 PM
First NC super I see in a long time, and he gets a kill-mail.
Not fair.

Garst Tyrell
May 22 2011, 06:42:56 PM
Goons RF'd one of our tech moons, it came out this morning a bit before downtime. I was sleeping soundly in my bed knowing our aussie formation was getting the job done, great job guys glad they gave you a nice fight. Obviously moon saved

http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18208 (http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18208)

65 Merciless + 70 NCDot + 48 PL vs 152 goon n friends

After that combined forces took a few more tech moons in venal liberating more precious tech from the nc oppressor /wizardhat

Later on we jumped on a nc bc gang led by none other than kulaaaaa who is proudly back in hirr [rawr] after his brief foray into corporate management.

3a1p + n6g
http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18322 (http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18322)
http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18278 (http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18278)

Garst Tyrell
May 22 2011, 09:06:58 PM
atm the nc has the entire weekend warrior kitchen sink in h-pa attempting to shoot staging towers, but they have successfully lagged the system that even with 1100+ guys they cant finish rfing the last ncdot tower because their guns arent cycling in the high lag. Pos gunners are having fun with them tho :monocledowns:

Helen
May 22 2011, 09:36:12 PM
They lost a tech moon while doing all this blob shit again. :obama:

SuperSpy
May 23 2011, 01:49:25 PM
2 NC Erebus down in MSHD-4. Will have to wait for some non-at-work-crew to give a proper BR.

EDIT: https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboa ... ?id=405557 (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=405557)

Marlona Sky
May 23 2011, 02:41:46 PM
Yeah, right before I get home from work too. :(

Marlona Sky
May 23 2011, 03:12:36 PM
I bring you...

The Northern Coalition TS channel recordings during the two titan losses a bit ago.

Support Channel (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/kula-kain-fleet-23-05)

Capital Channel (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nunu-dagobah-fleet-23-05)

Enjoy! :obama:

Rans
May 23 2011, 03:41:00 PM
Wow, that FC-ing is something special

Really. That's just horrible on so many levels. I can't even...

Smuggo
May 23 2011, 03:43:20 PM
I'll save that treat for when I get home.

Traxio Nacho
May 23 2011, 03:55:01 PM
That bloke at the end of the support channel TS was almost thanking the hostiles for attacking them early so they only lost 2 titans and not more :D

Tafkat
May 23 2011, 03:57:48 PM
I bring you...

The Northern Coalition TS channel recordings during the two titan losses a bit ago.

Support Channel (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/kula-kain-fleet-23-05)

Capital Channel (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nunu-dagobah-fleet-23-05)
good lord
:psyduck:

Helen
May 23 2011, 04:07:48 PM
I admit there was a log in trap. But it seems to happen to NC every day.

Badboy K
May 23 2011, 04:31:58 PM
ffs that's some serious fail shit

JForce
May 23 2011, 05:24:20 PM
I admit there was a log in trap. But it seems to happen to NC every day.

Then why not stop doing them :D

Garst Tyrell
May 23 2011, 05:29:25 PM
is kula on meth when he fcs?

I can clearly see why hirr wanted him back so badly after only a day out of corp

Rudolf Miller
May 23 2011, 05:31:30 PM
I bring you...

The Northern Coalition TS channel recordings during the two titan losses a bit ago.

Support Channel (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/kula-kain-fleet-23-05)

Capital Channel (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nunu-dagobah-fleet-23-05)
good lord
:psyduck:

:Start flooding the system with people:

:We're at war.. and you know you gotta tell your buddies that you know we're at war so let's get in fleet and starting fighting some fucking people man:

:Lucky for us we're the NC, we're just gonna keep goin'. Cuz yeah.. we didn't want those titans:

Bashiri
May 23 2011, 06:06:54 PM
So nc fails with scouts and call it a log in trap??? My god someone help that man.

Wensley
May 23 2011, 06:47:54 PM
I admit there was a log in trap. But it seems to happen to NC every day.

Then why not stop doing them :D

Because they evidently work.

Hey You
May 23 2011, 07:20:19 PM
I admit there was a log in trap. But it seems to happen to NC every day.

Then why not stop doing them :D


Because you know they get Titan kills? Maybe?

Helen
May 23 2011, 07:55:15 PM
I admit there was a log in trap. But it seems to happen to NC every day.

Then why not stop doing them :D

Yeah we should stop playing EvE online. :monocledowns:

Deja Thoris
May 23 2011, 08:48:04 PM
"Shoot Woseman Ari" "Oh hes being repped, never mind!"

:It means we didn't lose the whole fleet!: :in retrospect it didn't turn out too bad:

Holy spin batman.

Hell No
May 23 2011, 09:36:31 PM
That FCing :psyduck:

But is it bad that my first reaction to seeing the result of that fight was "The game is fundamentally fucked when LAWN has titans to lose"?

Helen
May 23 2011, 09:42:18 PM
That FCing :psyduck:

But is it bad that my first reaction to seeing the result of that fight was "The game is fundamentally fucked when LAWN has titans to lose"?

Blueprint Haus used to be in Drone space for a long time this is no big surprise.

Grarr Dexx
May 23 2011, 11:14:45 PM
To be fairly honest, the space IRC lived in (who BPH were part of) wasn't exactly the richest of the richest.

Traxio Nacho
May 23 2011, 11:26:56 PM
Are the NC actually attempting an attack on IRC/Their Space to distract DRF/Friends or is it just roams to make themselves feel better?

Sponk
May 24 2011, 01:18:56 AM
Are the NC actually attempting an attack on IRC/Their Space to distract DRF/Friends or is it just roams to make themselves feel better?

Yes.

fishslapper
May 24 2011, 03:37:07 AM
After Dwarfish died, my Nyx pilot disconnected....

Damn router died, requiring 2 hard power cycles to come back. Then just as I BACK, FOOKIN bsod...
8 or 9 mins down - finally get back on... Razor Support gang had probed me out and I have about 2-3 Hics, 3-4 dics and some 20+ random support... Shields gone, down to 86% armour...

NCdot support got to me, cleared off the support allowing me to jump out, poured 2 fingers of Laphroig Quarter Cask, changed my panties, and waited for the hands to stop shaking...

Daco
May 24 2011, 05:38:18 AM
I am pretty sure Log On Traps are against the Eula???

So if someone was smart they could petition for those ships back or those log on pilots band?

Or am I like stuck in 2007 :\

LoKiPP
May 24 2011, 05:48:53 AM
I am pretty sure Log On Traps are against the Eula???

People have been doing log on traps foreeeeeeeeever.

Wensley
May 24 2011, 07:33:10 AM
I am pretty sure Log On Traps are against the Eula???

Where'd you get that nonsense from? And yes, I did just read the EULA to check.


16. You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world.

This is the only rule that comes close and also the one being trotted out by the "AFK Cloaking violates the EULA" crowd.

Helen
May 24 2011, 07:36:46 AM
I am pretty sure Log On Traps are against the Eula???

So if someone was smart they could petition for those ships back or those log on pilots band?

Or am I like stuck in 2007 :\

If not troll still stupid.

This shit has been going on for as long as the game itself, also how does one prove that it was a log in trap compared to say getting word of shit going down and logging in.

The only way to win is not to play. :obama:

http://go-dl3.eve-files.com/media/corp/JustinMead/giftest.gif

Thanks to Justin Mead from PL for the above.

Traxio Nacho
May 24 2011, 08:44:13 AM
First big mention of login trap that I remember was RAT doing it to ASCN and ganking a load of freighters which upset Cyvok somewhat.

I believe CCP's stance on it is the same as logging off to avoid combat, they can't control when someone chooses to login/logoff.

Has to be asked if PL/NC./Friends had been doing this alot why NC keep falling for it :psyduck:

Helen
May 24 2011, 09:10:00 AM
First big mention of login trap that I remember was RAT doing it to ASCN and ganking a load of freighters which upset Cyvok somewhat.

I believe CCP's stance on it is the same as logging off to avoid combat, they can't control when someone chooses to login/logoff.

Has to be asked if PL/NC./Friends had been doing this alot why NC keep falling for it :psyduck:

Or why they haven't been doing login traps but NC fail at scouting enemy forces. :popcorn:

Dodgy Past
May 24 2011, 09:19:37 AM
If our IRC is pinged with a potential Titan kill then you'll get a 100 people online in 2-3 minutes. There'll have a mixture of DPS / Neut BS and Machs to jump into and be ready to Titan bridge only limited by session change timers.

I get the feeling that this kind of response is pretty alien to the NC, but when you know that being too slow will mean missing the km you can really hustle.

Rexthor Hammerfists
May 24 2011, 12:17:54 PM
First big mention of login trap that I remember was RAT doing it to ASCN and ganking a load of freighters which upset Cyvok somewhat.

I believe CCP's stance on it is the same as logging off to avoid combat, they can't control when someone chooses to login/logoff.

Has to be asked if PL/NC./Friends had been doing this alot why NC keep falling for it :psyduck:

Rat did it to "The 5, The Supremacy" in tenerifs, i know i was there :/

Kinsy
May 24 2011, 02:10:43 PM
NC weekend offensive in Venal has officially resulted in zero POS losses for NCdot; last POS restronted within half a triage cycle.

Shit myself yesterday jumping into 2 titans in my Bhaalgorn :D

Confirming we also 'login trapped' the NC yesterday after forming a fleet of 100+ to rep our staging towers 2 hours before we killed the titans in H-PA.

Hellkyte
May 24 2011, 03:40:46 PM
Yeah fair enough on the he-said-she-said. No BRs from us though, seriously couldnt' get that MO camp to engage if our life depended on it.

Killed an SFI in Vale though. We threw 4 thrashers at it and he popped em. Followed it w/ a bait thrasher and a rapier + cane next door and nailed him 10 minutes later or so.

Grarr Dexx
May 24 2011, 04:05:08 PM
Login traps shmogin traps I don't give a shit talk about fighting instead :razor:

Helen
May 24 2011, 07:59:16 PM
Supers: Get to UMI no later than Sunday. Playtime is over.

This message is going out to all the NC. DRF want to field 100 supers against us. Aparently they didnt' get the message we sent to PL about our numbers.

By default, have 150k Isotopes in your ship.

Titans, be combat fit with portal ready to fit as needed.

Motherships, Have 1 smart bomb, ECM Burst (viewtopic.php?f=107&t=77109) Post in this thread if you have not already. If you don't have access to this forum, you're doing something wrong. Please talk to your directors/ceo and sort it.

Carriers: Combat triage fit

If you haven't ever insured your carrier, now would be a good time to.

Dreads: 6 cycles of strontium and 18k Isotopes preloaded.

9-11 in UMI is MM only tower with fitting services available to all alliance.

Apparently their supercarrier pilots still require fitting advice and playtime is over.
Can't wait to see more supers welped.(by either side its always fun)

Sponk
May 24 2011, 09:51:24 PM
Apparently their supercarrier pilots still require fitting advice and playtime is over.

Well most of them dont have a pvp fit saved so vov

Marlona Sky
May 25 2011, 01:48:28 AM
LOL!

Did a decloak drive by ship scan of some NC nyx outside their tower in UMI earlier...

... was fit 100% for sanctums. He was also asking in alliance chat about good nyx fits for pvp according to a spy. :psyduck:

Wanten
May 25 2011, 01:31:32 PM
LOL!

Did a decloak drive by ship scan of some NC nyx outside their tower in UMI earlier...

... was fit 100% for sanctums. He was also asking in alliance chat about good nyx fits for pvp according to a spy. :psyduck:

Lol this can't be true, everyone knows there arnt any sanctums in tribute anymore!

GiDiYi
May 25 2011, 02:04:02 PM
... was fit 100% for sanctums. He was also asking in alliance chat about good nyx fits for pvp according to a spy. :psyduck:

How exactly do you fit a SC for Sanctums? I mean, the usual should do, shouldn't it? And if you are so greedy, that you have to fit DCU's on a Nyx, you are beyond redemption I think. But that's really the only slightly sensible (in a very loose term) decision one could argue, when refitting your Nyx for PvE.

Frothgar
May 25 2011, 04:39:07 PM
... was fit 100% for sanctums. He was also asking in alliance chat about good nyx fits for pvp according to a spy. :psyduck:

How exactly do you fit a SC for Sanctums? I mean, the usual should do, shouldn't it? And if you are so greedy, that you have to fit DCU's on a Nyx, you are beyond redemption I think. But that's really the only slightly sensible (in a very loose term) decision one could argue, when refitting your Nyx for PvE.


I would imagine something terrible like a local rep (So you never EVER have to stop), Highs full of DCUs, and Mids full of the finest sensor booster and target painters beargold can buy!

The one we AWOXed a while back had something similar going on.

Edit: http://kills.eve-v0lta.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=55675 we has a winnar!

Rudolf Miller
May 25 2011, 04:42:49 PM
[Nyx, nyx pve]
Damage Control II
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Capital Armor Repairer I
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Drone Navigation Computer I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution

Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Control Unit I
Drone Link Augmentor I

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]


Firbolg x25

rigs to taste I imagine

snipping pvp fit to not give out state sekrets >.>

Lallante
May 25 2011, 04:50:09 PM
What are the cap power relays and the armor rep for?

Smuggo
May 25 2011, 06:05:39 PM
The one we AWOXed a while back had something similar going on.

Edit: http://kills.eve-v0lta.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=55675 we has a winnar!

You'd think he'd at least put a Sisters probe launcher on it the cheapskate.

Rudolf Miller
May 25 2011, 06:47:24 PM
What are the cap power relays and the armor rep for?

cuz to keep stacking fast alligning mods made absolutely no sense?

forteh
May 25 2011, 06:58:54 PM
interesting things happening in 3g-

http://www.abload.de/img/2011.05.25.18.56.523fia.jpg


will update post later

Traxio Nacho
May 25 2011, 07:01:35 PM
NC or your lot?

forteh
May 25 2011, 07:04:05 PM
ours


Battle is still going on, but goons/nc deployed titans/supers/dreads/subcaps on the game. DRF jumps into them, kills support. PL warps to jammer and begins to work on it, NC. and Evoke keep supercap fleet bubbled. Goons/NC supers log off, jammer goes down, allied supercap fleet goes in, titan dies, maybe a mothership or two, some warping around, enemy dreads die, my abaddon goes down. The end.


also we killed a avatar and some more supers it seems

shigsy
May 25 2011, 07:06:45 PM
Confirmed erebus/wyvern down

Reports of avatar dying aswell.

Phatstabley
May 25 2011, 08:18:15 PM
I'm literally quiting my job. If I've missed 5 titan kills in under a week i'll be supremely disappointed.

Ikoma
May 25 2011, 11:19:51 PM
Quick BR:

NC formup with supercaps, caps and BS in 3G- and then online the cynoyammer.

As we gather on the 3G gate in hellcats with NCDot and Raiden, Yaay orders Titans and Aeons to the gate with subcaps while the rest of the NC supers protect the cynojammer.

PL/NCDOT/Raiden jump into the camp, DRF following shortly thereafter. Lag is pretty bad but we begin to slowly win the subcap fight on the gate, dictors are bubbling supers like crazy. When the subcap fight seems to be won, PL warps to the jammer in order to incap it, while our bros stay on the gate to protect the dictors and hold the supercapitals.

At this point lag is terrible, local is around 1200 but we are slowly winning the battle and NC supercaps start logging off, first Sala in the Rag then the 2 other titans, followed by all SC's.

We finally incap the jammer (took forever, module lag+NC ninja repping) and cyno titans then supercapitals in. DDs go off on Sala, who dissapears in armor :cut: The avatar disappears as well but Yasmina Ortess in the Erebus, who logged a few minutes after the first two titans, is destroyed* We then swap to a Wyvern who dies, while all remaining supers disappear.

We mop up the gate, kill a few more conventional capitals, rep the pos and peace out.

*NB: The Erebus exploded and spawned a wreck, shinies were looted, but no killmail. Yasmina may or may not still have a titan *iiam*

Armyofme
May 26 2011, 06:09:04 AM
And i guess thats the last time NC supercaps will be used in this war :popcorn:

Marlona Sky
May 26 2011, 06:22:03 AM
NC + DC forces combined is in excess of 50,000+ pilots. Over the last week or so, the most forces combined I have seen or heard about is 500 tops. That is 1% or less that are actually x'ing up for CTA's and stuff.

What is happening?

Herschel Yamamoto
May 26 2011, 08:10:01 AM
Marlona, that 50k count was before this invasion. NC's probably shed close to 10,000 pilots. Brick and friends are de facto out of the war(2k), Rage is down 3k, Majesta's down 1k, Demon's down 1k, and random other smaller groups and shrinkage are probably worth another 3k. On top of that, a big part of what's left is groups like Test who, last I've heard, aren't in the fight. And I'd wager NC has a lot higher baseline of indy/ratting/other random non-combat alts than most other blocs. The baseline is probably half of what you think it is.

Still, 2% isn't great either. But what do you expect from a bloc that hasn't won a meaningful fight in months and is in the middle of what looks a whole lot like a slow-motion fail cascade?

Traxio Nacho
May 26 2011, 08:54:55 AM
He is a real politican.
I like how he once again prepares to pull out.

SInce the NC obviously like so sit with a shitload of ppl in their space, how long will DRF let them boil and realise they don't even like their 'bffs'? Sacrificing them doesn't work this time and they have no use in the current situation :geek:


I think the last paragraph pretty much sums up the whole 3 pages.


Speaking at a personal level, in years past the NC was invaluable in aiding Goonswarm in our war against Band of Brothers, and we owe them a great debt; because of this, we have been committing many fleets to keep Tribute secure. Yet our efforts will be for naught if these issues are not addressed; already there are indications that the NC bloc is entering the early stages of a failure cascade. Stern, engaged autocratic leadership is needed to save the day.

In other words its everyone else's fault in the NC that they aren't doing very well and not Goons.

Dodgy Past
May 26 2011, 08:57:34 AM
Marlona, that 50k count was before this invasion. NC's probably shed close to 10,000 pilots. Brick and friends are de facto out of the war(2k), Rage is down 3k, Majesta's down 1k, Demon's down 1k, and random other smaller groups and shrinkage are probably worth another 3k. On top of that, a big part of what's left is groups like Test who, last I've heard, aren't in the fight. And I'd wager NC has a lot higher baseline of indy/ratting/other random non-combat alts than most other blocs. The baseline is probably half of what you think it is.

Still, 2% isn't great either. But what do you expect from a bloc that hasn't won a meaningful fight in months and is in the middle of what looks a whole lot like a slow-motion fail cascade?
TEST have been involved this week.

A lot of effort has gone into crushing the morale of NC entities piecemeal , though this has been made a lot easier by the fact that the NC is using FC's like Lord Dragon who make joining a fleet more unpleasant than a trip to the dentist.

The Goons made a mistake by not wanting to help Vale / Geminate since it allowed the conquerors time to crush the spirit of the majority of the NC, then draw them into the battle with a faint on Tribute when they chose, now the Goons are having their morale sapped because their allies are being embarrassingly bad. Whereas if they'd have joined ealier when NC morale was better they might have made more of a difference.

Lime
May 26 2011, 09:52:47 AM
I have to admit, I dont see the NC staying in the same area for much longer. I see us being removed and relocated. Battle after battle we have lost due to the forces having much more organisation and ships.

Whilst I do not agree about how the forces have amassed so many caps (ie, Real money) - As a NC member we can not complain about blobbing becuase we are guilty of it too.

NC moral - numbers - particaption everything is flat. I am not surprised after the constant hot dropping of a much larger force. You know something isn't right when 50+ titans and 120+ SC come to play - lets just call that the result of the biggest cancer this game allows RMT.

I'd like to thank the members of the NC for making the game so much fun for me over the last 2 - 3 years. whilst I play this game to have fun it is hardly surprising that we are being beaten by a professional real money making machine.

Change is good and as much as people don't like change I enjoy it, i just don't think this change is good for the game due very well known fact of why the russians want the area. Time to go play the game some other way and watch these russians farm technetium for real money - whats that - about 15k a month through their RMT sites?

Gonna add that the one person who was incredibly influential in passed wars was Vuk Lau and he is AWOL. Just like Imperian just like Hinata just like Junior. They very rarely sign in and put fleets up and if they did im sure the NC would have a much higher moral and know that if we are beaten its becuase the other side were better and not becuase of fail FC's that have been welping fleets from heaven to hell and back again.

Leviathan
May 26 2011, 11:04:35 AM
NC + DC forces combined is in excess of 50,000+ pilots. Over the last week or so, the most forces combined I have seen or heard about is 500 tops. That is 1% or less that are actually x'ing up for CTA's and stuff.

What is happening?


Fat bear has lost its will to fight.. NC were always pretty bloated lamo's

Lime NC is a bigger cancer then RMT and it has this cancer you mention also.. your like a cancerous tumour

Lime
May 26 2011, 11:26:43 AM
NC + DC forces combined is in excess of 50,000+ pilots. Over the last week or so, the most forces combined I have seen or heard about is 500 tops. That is 1% or less that are actually x'ing up for CTA's and stuff.

What is happening?


Fat bear has lost its will to fight.. NC were always pretty bloated lamo's

Lime NC is a bigger cancer then RMT and it has this cancer you mention also.. your like a cancerous tumour

Actually the different is people in the NC play to have fun with no real end goal - you play this game as a source of income and it is no wonder that you have the assets you have and are willing to loose them. What is so cancerous about providing areana to just have fun playing the game? Its so serious isnt it that you are willing to hack servers / DDos shit / and hack players accounts for the love of the game??? pffffft money well spent.

jonesbones
May 26 2011, 11:29:46 AM
Play to only RMT. Put trillions of assets on the line. Does not compute...

The combined forces arrayed against the NC are no larger than the NC itself. If you had chosen to put your massive cap/SC fleets on the line from day 1 this would be a different war. Now comes the denial of your grief.

Marlona Sky
May 26 2011, 11:31:01 AM
I love how you group anyone that opposes the NC as RMT players. Is that what they tell you? Is that what Vuk and the rest of the NC leadership preaches to you while they pack golden parachutes?

Get a fucking clue you worthless muppet and open your eyes and see what is happening around you!

jonesbones
May 26 2011, 11:32:17 AM
So much tech moon goo. Where has it gone? If only those hundreds of billions a month could be used to build a massive cap/SC fleet. If only.

Don Pellegrino
May 26 2011, 12:10:06 PM
It's interesting how (from reading the MM forums), the grunts claim both:

- That the supercaps used against them are frunded by RL money
and
- That the DRF RMT all their isk for RL money

Does not compute.

Traxio Nacho
May 26 2011, 12:23:53 PM
It's interesting how (from reading the MM forums), the grunts claim both:

- That the supercaps used against them are frunded by RL money
and
- That the DRF RMT all their isk for RL money

Does not compute.

Same tag line goons were using about Nync, saying he was being paid real life money to buy ingame items to use to take space to make isk to RMT while using the real life money to buy people off so they would side with him to allow him to take space to farm to make isk to RMT.........

I think their thinking was real money had to be put down at the start in order for them to start the business, just like in real life I suppose. Obviously most of it was just bullshit in order to get people logging in.

Skyly
May 26 2011, 12:25:59 PM
lime = Plague Black?

lubica
May 26 2011, 12:46:53 PM
Im a tool becuase i am telling you things that you dont want to hear. that computes.

Me Plague Black - no he IS a tool and is just as AWOL as the others!

No you're a tool because you apparently believe anything either of your leaderships tell you.

NC probably RMTs more than the DRF if anything, due to tech moons, non-shitty rats, not to even mention the absurd quantities of CSAAs in Tribute, that have been churning out supercaps for as long as they've been useful (longer).

Not to mention that the average (non-botting) resident of the NC regions is a skittish little whine-tard, getting butthuert over anything and everything. I'm not saying there are no DRF guys who match the description, but at least I can ingore their whining as it is thankfully illegible.

Also, you're obviously the only player in EVE with alts in both NC and DRF.

Also also, clarify the "we" in your posts.
Example A:
I'd like to thank the members of the NC for making the game so much fun for me over the last 2 - 3 years. whilst I play this game to have fun it is hardly surprising that we are being beaten by a professional real money making machine.
Example B:
Well lets just say to you Atlas - DRF were going to ask for you to come help but after a healthy discussion we didnt think you were capable of sticking it out with us after your last betrayel to IT! We thought that whilst we were teaming up with IT you may not share the same enthusiasm!

Lime
May 26 2011, 01:26:12 PM
Im a tool becuase i am telling you things that you dont want to hear. that computes.

Me Plague Black - no he IS a tool and is just as AWOL as the others!

No you're a tool because you apparently believe anything either of your leaderships tell you.

NC probably RMTs more than the DRF if anything, due to tech moons, non-shitty rats, not to even mention the absurd quantities of CSAAs in Tribute, that have been churning out supercaps for as long as they've been useful (longer).

Not to mention that the average (non-botting) resident of the NC regions is a skittish little whine-tard, getting butthuert over anything and everything. I'm not saying there are no DRF guys who match the description, but at least I can ingore their whining as it is thankfully illegible.

Also, you're obviously the only player in EVE with alts in both NC and DRF.

Also also, clarify the "we" in your posts.
Example A:
I'd like to thank the members of the NC for making the game so much fun for me over the last 2 - 3 years. whilst I play this game to have fun it is hardly surprising that we are being beaten by a professional real money making machine.
Example B:
Well lets just say to you Atlas - DRF were going to ask for you to come help but after a healthy discussion we didnt think you were capable of sticking it out with us after your last betrayel to IT! We thought that whilst we were teaming up with IT you may not share the same enthusiasm!


Apologises for the confusion you must have missed the point where I said I am playing on both sides. But meh -

Its quite entertaining watching TJ burn with my Russian character becuase im looking forward to eventually having my own tech moon or two or may be more becuase once we have tribute and the nc fails evoke nc. and raiden are next, trust me when i say that the russians want the whole tech market. But also with my russian character I hold hope that the NC can fight out long enough until the real truth is unvailed. I mean we've already decieved goons and test becuase we told them we wouldnt go into tribute and we have!

You see i am russian and emirgrated to Scotland when i was 10 lived here for 15 years now. You think my accent is bad!!! a russian with a scottish accent LOLs.

So you can see I am set up to be able to understand and infiltrate both sides. It just so happens the russian in me has moved me higher up in the DRF than my NC counterpart.

DRF ????? ? ????? ??, ??? ??? ?????, ??? ?????? ?? ?????????? ?? ?????? ???????? ?????. ??? ?????? ??? - ???????, ?? ????? ?????????????? ?? ?????????? ???? ??????????? ???.

Hey You
May 26 2011, 01:41:55 PM
I think retard in you has moved you up on this boards waaay fucking to much...

cheeba
May 26 2011, 01:44:24 PM
Great, war and politics is becoming the new kugu? This is a computer game, please leave the emo my team is better than your team on the other shit forums. I thought fhc might do better than allow purpose made troll accounts to shit up the thread. I thought you only got access to post in this thread if you contributed?

And so to not be hypocritical...


The has been fighting in 3G in tribute, a non station system where PL set up a staging tower. Despite never really meaning to, my corp reffed the tower after many hours in stealth bombers. we also set up our own towers in local and a cyno jammer.

Attempting to use cyno jammer to our advantage, there was a big fight (which i missed sadly) when the PL pos came out of RF. PL had greater supcap numbers and the order was given for NC supcaps to gtfo. Lag was brutal and no one is exact sure who or what died. PL say they looted an erebus wreck, but the erebus pilot says his login screen still shows him in the ship. A few other NC titans disappeared in armor and structure. NC also lost a handful of vanilla caps and PL maybe 2 or 3.

In order to stop us putting up another jammer in their staging system, PL has now sbued the system (but not after our bennyhill bombers onlined some of their own and stole some of PLs :) )


Also, PL ganked our JF 30mins ago. Bravo dudes.


Thank you forum mod-gods. Lets keep this thread clear of smack.

Lime
May 26 2011, 01:54:14 PM
Great, war and politics is becoming the new kugu? This is a computer game, please leave the emo my team is better than your team on the other shit forums. I thought fhc might do better than allow purpose made troll accounts to shit up the thread. I thought you only got access to post in this thread if you contributed?

And so to not be hypocritical...


The has been fighting in 3G in tribute, a non station system where PL set up a staging tower. Despite never really meaning to, my corp reffed the tower after many hours in stealth bombers. we also set up our own towers in local and a cyno jammer.

Attempting to use cyno jammer to our advantage, there was a big fight (which i missed sadly) when the PL pos came out of RF. PL had greater supcap numbers and the order was given for NC supcaps to gtfo. Lag was brutal and no one is exact sure who or what died. PL say they looted an erebus wreck, but the erebus pilot says his login screen still shows him in the ship. A few other NC titans disappeared in armor and structure. NC also lost a handful of vanilla caps and PL maybe 2 or 3.

In order to stop us putting up another jammer in their staging system, PL has now sbued the system (but not after our bennyhill bombers onlined some of their own and stole some of PLs :) )


Also, PL ganked our JF 30mins ago. Bravo dudes.

Originally i contributed by saying how AWOL most of the NC is and how much they are failing, had good times in NC but not for long as they are breaking at the seams.

DRF on the other hand has plans that are not public to all and involve the very likes of those who they are fighting with to defeat the NC.

Contribution over. You got that one right, you're not posting here anymore. And if any of you hurfblurfers feel like continuing the two pages of drivel I just had to delete, neither will you.

Hellkyte
May 26 2011, 02:58:27 PM
So for the less informed of us what military/staging/etc hardpoints are left for the NC (regions/systems)?

Helen
May 26 2011, 03:14:38 PM
So for the less informed of us what military/staging/etc hardpoints are left for the NC (regions/systems)?

Vale has pretty much been taken with just 3 station finishing their rf timers now.
Geminate is under DRF/RAIDEN control.

Tribute/Venal seem to be flashpoints with some pretty intense battles raging over pos.
After all the tech must flow..

Hellkyte
May 26 2011, 03:27:09 PM
Are stations being rf'd/ attempts at flipping sov or has the focus mainly been on the tech so far?

cheeba
May 26 2011, 04:35:05 PM
Are stations being rf'd/ attempts at flipping sov or has the focus mainly been on the tech so far?

As mentioned in my post above, the only sbus in place in tribute atm are in a non station system PL are staging out of. I presume this is soley for the reason of stopping us jamming the sytem again.

PL seem to be having a nice time ganking supcaps. Otherwise the only targets being hit (and tbh, why waste time on anything else?) are the tech moons.

zergl
May 26 2011, 06:16:34 PM
Throwing in a post to say I saw Vuk Lau on World of Tanks during an NC supercap whelp.

Cant be helping.
Actually, in a big morale speech Vuk held a few days ago he said that he gave his WoT acc to some kids to grind credits/XP while he's busy saving the NC.

To save you the pain of wading through kugus for the full text:
[spoiler:xs4lnopo]Ok prepare yourself for the wall of text, but as some of the following could classify under the forum p0rn I highly recommend to spare a couple of minutes of your lives.

There is a lot of to be explained to you guys, and the most important is why we suck so much atm so I will start with going back for couple of months.

After winning EVE and witnessing the extinction of all our arch enemies a lot of from command (in this case me in particular) lost the fire igniting our internet hearts. That combined with continuous facepalms from CCP customer support and 0.0 dev crew kinda dimmed my will to play, so I decided to take a step or two back to make the room for others to step up and to gain authority in both RAWR and NC. Then couple of weeks before Fanfest due to NDA stuff I went pretty mad on CSM forums and later on resigned and at that point every time I thought about EVE, I had the mental images of me torturing certain CCP dudes which killed my will for play even more. So i took two more steps back and with Killer2 and Ronan stepping forward and things inside the NC (atleast at a glance) looking better I thought I had luxury for doing that.

Alas the serious invasion started and with following metagame shit in Geminate combined with several of our welps including the supercap one, things started to cracking, both inside RAWR and the NC. Just to make things clear there was no drama just people being burnt here and there, but enough to things start shaking, nothing we didnt saw before inside the NC.

Before I continue on that subject I will touch our internal problems in general. I will take a quote from tonights discussion with Shadoo:
(10:23:51 PM) Shadoo: the NC is losing because you've been sat stale sitting on same shit for fucking 7 years
(10:23:53 PM) Shadoo: you don't innovate
(10:23:56 PM) Shadoo: you adapt
(10:24:07 PM) Shadoo: you don't tactic, you brute
which is in good part true. RAWR was forged more then five years ago, fighting heavily outnumbered with next-to-none income. Our awesomeness against FE and ATUK back then (and pinch of BFFness) bought us an invitation to North. After getting Tribute for next 2 years we were under constant invasions and still without any significant income. We were all literally busting our balls to make RAWR what it is now. Our FCs were the real Ateam, our directors were printing isk out of nothing, and our members were fighting like a lions. Then tech got boosted, we started being space rich, BoB and whole zoo around them folded, our memberbase risen from like 2.5k to 4k while our daily fleets went from 150 to 60, our FC either started playing HoN or emoquited and in general we slowly become....I will not say shit...but we became pretty horrible.

"Luckily" for us CCP started nerfing 0.0, 1st they made drones region shit, then they nerfed anomalies and true sec status, and finally they nerfed jumpbrigdes. I am not sure if you thought about it, but basicaly they shit on whole EBAY land cutting their income in more then half, while making logistics nightmare. We are blessed with being in the best region logistic wise, but I am sure not many of you can imagine living 50 jumps from nearest lowsec with next to impossible cap routes. While I agree it has its strategical perks, its simply bad for RMT business. Thats the main reason EBAY crew decided to move in the North, or at least to try it.

Now the problem was that we are having against one of the meanest combos to fight. We have elitePVP PL with their metagaming crap, DRF with their iskprint machines as meatshield A-team, and ncDOT, Raiden and rest of the zoo as meatshield B-team. Now after series of our errors they are on our doorsteps, and their rapetrain has no brakes. The only thing which can stop them is huge wall of our nakid bodies piled on each other. So as much as things looking grim now only thing we need to do is to pile on each other (we like to do that), stop sucking (some of us will be pissed) and to demolish their train (I am sure everyone will enjoy this).

We have several task ahead of us:
- Command with me on the top to stop sucking in communicating and organizing.
- FCs to stop suiciding fleets. FCs to use brain.
- John RAWR Does (yes you) to stop sucking and to start using brain too.
- FCs to grow balls (and some of them brain too).
Anyway...FCs....the poor FCs. Being the FC in RAWR is one of the toughest things existing in the Internet. If you dont trust me, try it. For all those reasons respect your FCs. Some of them are better then other, but they are all trying fucking hard to push things around. One of the main reasons getting me back ingame after the community itself is the amount of energy FCs are putting into the game. Sadly without proper communication, which is above everyone else my fucking mistake, all their efforts were in vain.

So yeah, I am fully back, gave my WoT account to some kids to grind the shit for me, uninstalled Witcher before I even played prologue, uninstalled Football Manager including 2021 year savegame where I own with FC Red Star and decided to get back in the saddle and to lead you - my fellow alliance mates to the victory. Will we succeed, its upon all of you and your ability to pile on each other BUT in order to really own we need to do it with skill and more important - with style so get prepared for Professors Imperian and Dabigredboat and their prep courses "How to BLOB with style"





Well yeah, now comes the important part. Starting from Sunday 22nd of May we will stop sucking or at least die trying. I will do the only thing I am good at - delegate stuff and make your pewpew experience enjoyable.

I will do another announcement tomorrow about some doctrine crap we will implement in upcoming days.

Another important thing is - Supercap pilot insure your ships. http://forums.morsus-mihi.org/viewto...=78105&start=0
I promise you shitload of killmails, but I am also pretty sure that some of you will die being raped on cynobeacons and also good portion of you will most likely die in good fights, but at least you can tell your grandchildren about it instead of bragging how you raped computer on easy mode in Shogun 2.

Conclusion: We suck atm, but guess what? We sucked before too but took the hit like a man, stood up, learned from mistakes, fought back and eventually always won at the end. After 5 years we are still alive and rocking and I see us doing the same for 10 more years at least, if not in EVE then in some other game.

For the end I will quote for n-th time one of the most memorable persons of our era - "Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever." Shane Falco, The Replacements (2000)[/spoiler:xs4lnopo]

:monocledowns:

Rudolf Miller
May 26 2011, 06:36:32 PM
So the clock is ticking.. if some good momentum doesn't swing the NC's way in a week or two that whole thing will be for naught.

Ikoma
May 26 2011, 07:03:31 PM
Yaay's aeon just logged in to 3g on the gate and got booshed so hard, died in about 30 seconds

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboa ... ?id=406688 (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=406688)

edit: can you say shitfit?

Traxio Nacho
May 26 2011, 07:26:10 PM
That fit must have cost all of 1bil TI rigs too?


Well yeah, now comes the important part. Starting from Sunday 22nd of May we will stop sucking or at least die trying. I will do the only thing I am good at - delegate stuff and make your pewpew experience enjoyable.

I will do another announcement tomorrow about some doctrine crap we will implement in upcoming days.

Another important thing is - Supercap pilot insure your ships. http://forums.morsus-mihi.org/viewto...=78105&start=0
I promise you shitload of killmails, but I am also pretty sure that some of you will die being raped on cynobeacons and also good portion of you will most likely die in good fights, but at least you can tell your grandchildren about it instead of bragging how you raped computer on easy mode in Shogun 2.


Guessing a lot of people didn't get the memo for the 22nd?

After that wallotext about being better and FC's having balls their tactics still come down to


"How to BLOB with style"

:monocledowns:

Herschel Yamamoto
May 26 2011, 08:29:36 PM
So much tech moon goo. Where has it gone? If only those hundreds of billions a month could be used to build a massive cap/SC fleet. If only.

It was. And then all those supers were told not to log in as Vale fell, and half of them left NC entirely by the time NC HC decided that they wanted to actually try to fight again. Whoops.

Frothgar
May 26 2011, 08:59:34 PM
Yaay's aeon just logged in to 3g on the gate and got booshed so hard, died in about 30 seconds

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboa ... ?id=406688 (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=406688)

edit: can you say shitfit?


There really is something to be said about the novelty of shooting the other side's annoying drummer boy.

Probably been happening since the beginning of warfare itself.

mitthrawn
May 26 2011, 09:11:18 PM
lime = Plague Black?
He's just a retard.

I remember him from the German eve-o board, all he was doing there was posting shitty NC propaganda all day every day. He was actually quite cute as you could troll him pretty easily which was fun back in the days when I was still playing eve (and in ev0ke).

We should keep him for amusement for a day or two and then ban him. :obama:

Traxio Nacho
May 26 2011, 09:13:47 PM
Yaay's aeon just logged in to 3g on the gate and got booshed so hard, died in about 30 seconds

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboa ... ?id=406688 (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=406688)

edit: can you say shitfit?


There really is something to be said about the novelty of shooting the other side's annoying drummer boy.

Probably been happening since the beginning of warfare itself.

Yaay reminds me of Tyrrax during IAC days, talks a lot and thinks he is the best thing since slice bread but its mostly hot air, also you will always primary him even if he is on the field in a shuttle :D (both good at losing aeons too)

Hellkyte
May 27 2011, 05:46:43 PM
Can definitely tell things are starting to change in the area. Normally we can shit up M-O for 10 minutes and someone will come and run us off. Last night we sat in M-O and surrounding areas and generally made the place no fun for anyone for hours on end. We (and by we I mean I) got so drunk I don't even really remember much of the night, that's how "on the ball" I had to be.

The only real fights we got were against Podla, who killed my vaga and my cane. Stupid dual webbing drakes.

Still though, love fighting Podla

I am also massively hungover right now.

Helen
May 27 2011, 10:19:38 PM
Well H-W just got interesting.

Rans
May 27 2011, 10:49:10 PM
What happened there? Don't be so mysterious

Hey You
May 27 2011, 11:03:51 PM
What happened there? Don't be so mysterious

+1

whispous
May 27 2011, 11:39:13 PM
PL went in shield tanked battleships, about 100 inc logis. Nothing happened, then PL went to shoot the jammer a bit and the NC comms were heard to all, the NC FC telling his 150 man fleet to stand down. Then they undocked some random battlecruisers so the battleships warped back to station and shot some of them to death. Then some more nothing happened, PL supers jumped in and waited for a bit, nothing happened and then the supers went and incapped some pos mods and a JB i think after idly incapping the fitting service. Then they jumped out, then nothing happened some more and then the PL BS fleet went home.

Wensley
May 28 2011, 12:25:10 AM
So is H-W SBU'd at all these days or did PL just make a nuisance of themselves and go home?

Marlona Sky
May 28 2011, 03:19:22 AM
Sooo... update? I know for a fact there was huge form ups on all sides. A giant clash was to be had. Goons and friends threatened to reset all of NC if they stood down again. Yet, I had to leave and could not be there.

There a fight raging on or did NC decide blue balling again was the way to victory? If a fight, details?

Dwergi
May 28 2011, 04:44:49 AM
A couple of fights were had - NCdot and Merciless maxed out a fleet for the first time ever and we met up somewhere in upper Venal with roughly 450 friendly in local. Goons/NC had a bit more on the other side of the gate, but stood down so we killed the first tower. Then we bridged out to 9-2 and had a bit of a slaughter: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9793574

Got back into H-PA on the titan, bridged out onto the next moon, killed that. Sat on a Titan, got bombed and lost all our dictors and tackle, then bridged out again for round 2: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9793887

After that, the NC didn't want to play, so we had some POS bowling fun times with 20-odd titans on a POS. http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/4613 ... 140127.jpg (http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/4613/exefile2011052721140127.jpg)

Some other stuff happened as well, but it's all a bit of a blur as it was a multi-hour op and I only got on 5 kills in my Guardian.

3 tech moons liberated, though.

Seleene
May 28 2011, 04:58:15 AM
At the end of the night, Shadoo bridged the Goon fleet home with his Levi.

Not trolling.

Marlona Sky
May 28 2011, 05:06:48 AM
At the end of the night, Shadoo bridged the Goon fleet home with his Levi.

Not trolling.

Pics?

So is goons resting NC now? current NC moral? Fire sales? Smack talk?

Details man, details!

hXc
May 28 2011, 05:55:09 AM
TEST resetting NC - c/d?

Leboe
May 28 2011, 06:07:38 AM
TEST resetting NC - c/d?

http://soundcloud.com/gcolrenzulu/test- ... uncement-5 (http://soundcloud.com/gcolrenzulu/test-alliance-announcement-5)

"probably not a troll" is the best I can do

Marlona Sky
May 28 2011, 06:43:01 AM
The race away from the NC table has begun. Let's see who gets stuck with the check.

Jester
May 28 2011, 07:03:55 AM
Politics: I don't know why people are surprised. Thanks to the sanctum/haven nerf and the months-long-war, NC alliance corps are losing members left, right, and center. It's obviously directly affecting alliances like Majesta, but even alliances unaffected by the war like Controlled Chaos and FCON are losing people at a steady clip. Those that aren't quitting EVE or going back to high-sec are joining alliances with better space, like the aforementioned TEST and Goons.

The NC was held together by the draw of quiet, sorta-semi-OK space to do carebear stuff in. As long as that was available, NC fleets would gather to defend it. Often badly, given the limited combat experience and skill points of its members, but they'd defend it as best they could. But now that one thing that was holding the NC together is gone, so it's not surprising that it's collapsing.

DRF, PL, Raiden, Ev0ke, et al will all be on the killmail, but the final blow on this KM is CCP's.

Helen
May 28 2011, 07:33:11 AM
DRF, PL, Raiden, Ev0ke, et al will all be on the killmail, but the final blow on this KM is CCP's.

You say final blow will be CCP but I bet if DRF/PL/RAIDEN/ETC hadn't come north to evict then NC would be happily bearing away still.

Anti NC side is now up 3 tech moons after some big scraps last night ending with Shadoo bridging home the Goon fleet. :popcorn:

Tafkat
May 28 2011, 07:48:59 AM
Politics: I don't know why people are surprised. Thanks to the sanctum/haven nerf and the months-long-war, NC alliance corps are losing members left, right, and center. It's obviously directly affecting alliances like Majesta, but even alliances unaffected by the war like Controlled Chaos and FCON are losing people at a steady clip. Those that aren't quitting EVE or going back to high-sec are joining alliances with better space, like the aforementioned TEST and Goons.

The NC was held together by the draw of quiet, sorta-semi-OK space to do carebear stuff in. As long as that was available, NC fleets would gather to defend it. Often badly, given the limited combat experience and skill points of its members, but they'd defend it as best they could. But now that one thing that was holding the NC together is gone, so it's not surprising that it's collapsing.

DRF, PL, Raiden, Ev0ke, et al will all be on the killmail, but the final blow on this KM is CCP's.
The NC existed long before the advent of sanctums as bottomless ISK fountains, and I very much doubt that people who just want to be left to bear in peace were ever useful for any purpose other than lagging out systems and improving invaders' K:D ratios.

Marlona Sky
May 28 2011, 08:00:16 AM
There is going to be scores of NC bears like Ripard, who will do their best to say CCP and/or RMTers beat them. I bet Vuk Lau is preparing his farewell speech right now citing that exact thing. I'm sure NC is hoping and praying that no one will want the space because it is supposedly terrible to live in now and impossible to make a living.

I bet every system will fill up nicely. Did you really unsubscribe over the Sanctum nerf Ripard?

Jester
May 28 2011, 08:39:04 AM
Did you really unsubscribe over the Sanctum nerf Ripard?
Nope. I listed my reasons for unsubbing here:
http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2011/05/1-jester.html

As I've said many times, my own reasons for being in the NC had nothing to do with their reputation, and everything to do with access to pilots in my TZ (late California) that I could play with. My reason for leaving EVE essentially boiled down to the loss of same.

Fara
May 28 2011, 08:51:57 AM
Politics: I don't know why people are surprised. Thanks to the sanctum/haven nerf and the months-long-war, NC alliance corps are losing members left, right, and center. It's obviously directly affecting alliances like Majesta, but even alliances unaffected by the war like Controlled Chaos and FCON are losing people at a steady clip. Those that aren't quitting EVE or going back to high-sec are joining alliances with better space, like the aforementioned TEST and Goons.

The NC was held together by the draw of quiet, sorta-semi-OK space to do carebear stuff in. As long as that was available, NC fleets would gather to defend it. Often badly, given the limited combat experience and skill points of its members, but they'd defend it as best they could. But now that one thing that was holding the NC together is gone, so it's not surprising that it's collapsing.

DRF, PL, Raiden, Ev0ke, et al will all be on the killmail, but the final blow on this KM is CCP's.

LMAO the entity that held somewhere around 350 high end moons (correct me if wrong, I've once heard 360 was a low estimate) for the last couple of months is buttehurte because CCP tries to reduce passive sov0.0 income?

From a complete neutral perspective of the whole conflict, I do wonder where you put all that moon money. Probably not smart to put RMT in every whinepost.

Rans
May 28 2011, 09:44:33 AM
Shadoo bridging goons home is all kinds of sweet. If I were goons I would totally put out on the 1st date.

Helen
May 28 2011, 10:29:41 AM
In Vale news only ABA and AZBR stands as NC held stations now, of course there is quite a bit of sov held by the NC still in Vale but with no high end moon income its merely a drain on their finances.

Rudolf Miller
May 28 2011, 11:45:21 AM
I remember the day what remained of the goons crawled into deklein.. and how the NC were sheltering them. I remember thinking.. I wonder when that's gonna backfire and the NC realize the goons et al are only allies as long as the gettin's good.

Then they do whatever they want.

The NC got the allies they deserve.

Dogbeast
May 28 2011, 04:02:39 PM
I remember the day what remained of the goons crawled into deklein.. and how the NC were sheltering them. I remember thinking.. I wonder when that's gonna backfire and the NC realize the goons et al are only allies as long as the gettin's good.

Then they do whatever they want.

The NC got the allies they deserve.

Well, the NC still has TEST, whom they helped to take fountain.....oh wait.

Traxio Nacho
May 28 2011, 04:53:47 PM
I remember the day what remained of the goons crawled into deklein.. and how the NC were sheltering them. I remember thinking.. I wonder when that's gonna backfire and the NC realize the goons et al are only allies as long as the gettin's good.

Then they do whatever they want.

The NC got the allies they deserve.

Interesting if the reset is true and not just trolling, I would have thought goons/TEST need NC just as much as NC need them as their numbers don't look to be stellar considering they almost have 12k members between them. Then again if they might have made a deal with DRF as XdeathX use to be good friends with goons :)

Liptonez
May 28 2011, 11:36:32 PM
So today I built a little website that puts supers into a table from KM input (holy shit I suck at programming)... After adding most of the supers that appeared on ganks/KMs, I got some interesting numbers.

tl;dr: russians don't have/commit supers

Just in May, ~320 supers appeared on killmails.
96 of them were PL.
46 of them were Raiden.
46 of them were NCdot.

About 25 of them were actual russian supers (White Noise is #1 with 11 supers).

This sort of supports my opinion that the russians themselves don't really have any power, either that or they're just fucking lazy. I mean, I remember that NC vs RUS meatgrinder half a year ago, where did all the supers go since PL came in?

Kinda funny that NC gets steamrolled without RUS even lifting a finger.

Edit: I will probably have a look for tower KMs, maybe some more RUS supers will appear there.

Edit again: Yep, after a quick look my numbers are way off, due to missing tower KMs... Will update a little later.

--- LATER UPDATE

tl;dr: Must be changed to russians only shoot structures and hotdrop poor vagabonds with 50 supers.

After updating I have ~550 supers...
142 Pandemic Legion.
72 Raiden.
73 NCdot.

Makes more than 50% of fielded supers just from them...

RUS))
52 White Noise.
34 Legion of xXDEATHXx
49 Red Alliance
0 SOLAR FLEET (that is not many)

Random NC alliances for fun:
1 Morsus Mihi
0 Majesta Empire
0 Mostly Harmless
13 Goonswarm Federation

For anyone that cared.

Dodgy Past
May 29 2011, 02:08:55 AM
http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9802546

IRC managed to kill DBRB's Nyx, which has to sting... 4 goon supers down in one day just after mittani was ranting at NC for giving away easy SC kills :D

Dregek
May 29 2011, 02:13:12 AM
i fail to see how your math works

you first part is missing 132 supers

& the second

550 supers where the numbers you provide add up to 436 you seem to be missing 114

Liptonez
May 29 2011, 02:26:45 AM
If you were remotely smart you would have realized that the "missing" supers are part of other alliances like -A- or Stain Empire. Who have 36 and 11 respectively. Add some random low sec alliances like Purple Helmeted Warriors, Invicta and you'll have all 550.

Smartass.

Dregek
May 29 2011, 03:11:03 AM
I wasn't being a smart-ass lol, it would have been better if you had just added those numbers in from the start & i wouldn't have needed to be a smart-ass lol. it just doesn't make sense without those missing numbers

Helen
May 29 2011, 11:48:44 AM
Well Razor seem to think we are about to hit Tenal they decided to TCU a load of systems going up 33 systems by DOTLAN count.
Going to cost a fair bit for no real strategic advantage unless I'm seriously missing something here.

Rudolf Miller
May 29 2011, 02:20:05 PM
Well Razor seem to think we are about to hit Tenal they decided to TCU a load of systems going up 33 systems by DOTLAN count.
Going to cost a fair bit for no real strategic advantage unless I'm seriously missing something here.

Shhhh don't tell them they're pouring isk down the drain.

Helen
May 29 2011, 04:16:23 PM
Congratulations to NCdot on gaining their first northern station in this campaign.
As of today no station in Vale is under NC control anymore, of course there is a spazzload of NC sov claims on many systems but they are of no concern as the JB network is in pieces and all moons of any concern are under DRF/RAIDEN/PL control.
As such what is there is just a drain on their finances.

ev0ke have been busy bee's today in Tribute attacking various poses and NC gangs, earlier there was a very dishonorable action by WN as we didn't let a Nyx die to a sub cap gang by bringing in many supers.
Needless to say we are not ashamed as bots don't have human feelings.

Badboy K
May 29 2011, 08:25:36 PM
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9809729

apparently Pl got tits right on top of them(cynoned?) bouncing them all over and dd-ing them in process :)

Shin_getter
May 29 2011, 11:54:28 PM
Just how does PL afford all the toys its got? From the looks of it they are consistently bringing more isk to the field then "carebear" forces that spend their eve time grinding for isk. I can't imagine their contracts being that profitable, and if they use carebear alts then I'd love to know what they do.....

Rans
May 30 2011, 12:00:22 AM
They've held tech, they've won AT, they've held Fountain, their members are p. decent at making ISK, they get paid in supers, etc.

Dogbeast
May 30 2011, 01:18:56 AM
It also helps that PL are actually bringing their toys out to fight, whereas once other entities get some nice toys they all of a sudden become afraid of using them and never let them see the outside of a POS shield.

Rans
May 30 2011, 01:30:36 AM
We all know what happens when NC take their toys out for a spin.

Hydro
May 30 2011, 04:41:01 AM
Only one way to learn how to pvp properly...

Marlona Sky
May 30 2011, 05:48:06 AM
Congratulations to NCdot on gaining their first northern station in this campaign.

Where is this? I guess I should log in more.

Dogbeast
May 30 2011, 06:23:22 AM
Congratulations to NCdot on gaining their first northern station in this campaign.

Where is this? I guess I should log in more.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Vale_of_the_Silent/A8A-JN

Rans
May 31 2011, 12:55:49 AM
http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.ph ... lind-Venal (http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?9807-MAX3-Nothing-Personal-(Tribute-Pure-Blind-Venal))&p=241490&viewfull=1#post241490

As you witnessed more then a dozen Tribute CSAAs along with several important towers were reinforced in Tribute core. I doubt we can do shit today (Monday) but if we dont field EVERYTHING we have including ALL SUPERCAPS on Tuesday evening and defend everything what is reinforced, we can be realistic to say that we lost this war. We need to admit to ourselves that NC is broken in several areas, and its sad that we had to face reality on worst possible way, but thats the life.

What we have and noone can take that from us are our communities and friendship built in between us over the years. At least after this we know who are our real friends and who are friendswithbenefits.

Anyway at this moment war is not lost YET. As I said Tuesday is "to be or not be" for the NC in its current structure, in true meaning of that expression. Its purely upon us to choose the fate of ourselves.

Vuk Lao
Ceo of Morsus Mihi and leader of the Northern Koalition

Marlona Sky
May 31 2011, 02:02:20 AM
lol @ this recording: http://www.fatal-ascension.com/uploaded ... 0-5-11.wav (http://www.fatal-ascension.com/uploaded/Alliance_Meeting_30-5-11.wav)

Telling people to not go to work and shit. It's only pixels guys.

HyJek
May 31 2011, 04:51:50 AM
so apparently ME is supposed to be joining Gypsy Band in N5Y, can't think that will go very well for them...

Garst Tyrell
May 31 2011, 06:03:43 AM
to be fair unlike highsec, as their alliance mail noted first and foremost there are high quality guristas mission agents in n5y, a perfect place for majesta to move. its what drew band there anyway, and probably rage next

Helen
May 31 2011, 06:51:10 AM
I honestly thought Helen was trolling when he said they were invading today. My bad.

I was just the NC decided to let the kids play on their front lawn and wreck their ornaments (csaa poses).
Fully expect a big NC blob tonight though.












Well hoping for one. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k47/jerkybar/negativeman.png

Leboe
May 31 2011, 06:55:59 AM
As if the server will be stable after extended downtime :psyccp:

Armyofme
May 31 2011, 08:51:46 AM
I kinda hope the NC will start to fight back soon, cause the battlereports this far have been uneventful at best.

I really really really wanna see some proper br's soon, and i want to see tons of supers killed (and hopefully ill be able to whore on the mails)

:slaver: So get to it NC, dont give up without a fight. :slaver:


:popcorn: :guinness:

Viper Shizzle
May 31 2011, 11:15:04 AM
NC are planning their ~massive formup~ for tomorrow.

Marlona Sky
May 31 2011, 11:34:20 AM
NC are planning their ~massive formup~ for tomorrow.

I hope so. They trolled many forums and lol'd at any entity that went out in a fizzle. I wonder if they will do the same.

Viper Shizzle
May 31 2011, 11:48:08 AM
[quote="Viper Shizzle":2n3zb586]NC are planning their ~massive formup~ for tomorrow.

I hope so. They trolled many forums and lol'd at any entity that went out in a fizzle. I wonder if they will do the same.[/quote:2n3zb586]

Vuk is giving the impression he'll pull the plug if things don't work out (I think most of their CSAAs are at risk)

Marlona Sky
May 31 2011, 11:52:25 AM
[quote="Marlona Sky":2nrqsb49][quote="Viper Shizzle":2nrqsb49]NC are planning their ~massive formup~ for tomorrow.

I hope so. They trolled many forums and lol'd at any entity that went out in a fizzle. I wonder if they will do the same.[/quote:2nrqsb49]

Vuk is giving the impression he'll pull the plug if things don't work out (I think most of their CSAAs are at risk)[/quote:2nrqsb49]

Thats the word. I'm sure he has a golden parachute fully packed and ready along with a lot of other NC leadership.

Also on a side note, getting your IP address bombed with whatever the fuck to have your internet drop so you decloak is pretty fucking lame tactic. v0v

Helen
May 31 2011, 11:57:04 AM
Also on a side note, getting your IP address bombed with whatever the fuck to have your internet drop so you decloak is pretty fucking lame tactic. v0v

:wouldliketoknowmore:

Armyofme
May 31 2011, 12:02:46 PM
Vuk is giving the impression he'll pull the plug if things don't work out (I think most of their CSAAs are at risk) :lol: and yet they somehow talked about how easy IT folded.
Same shit, different alliances :facepalm:

Marlona Sky
May 31 2011, 12:10:54 PM
Also on a side note, getting your IP address bombed with whatever the fuck to have your internet drop so you decloak is pretty fucking lame tactic. v0v

:wouldliketoknowmore:

I was in my super glass cannon snipe Panther cloaked off the UMI station. Over the last couple of days I have been a slight thorn to frigs if they were in my optimal and had really low transversal. Anyways, they knew I was cloaked up somewhere on station because I killed some frig earlier. They had tried drag drones, ceptors, etc, etc to decloak me but were way off by the time they ever decided to go to where I sniped last. So I see some drop some probes and they sit there for a minute. I get told I'm about to have a bad day, a few moments later, my entire internet dies. Never had that happen before.

This lasts for about 3-4 minutes. Finally, it is back up. Log in alt and warp to the station at range and see them chatting in local about killing me. Scan and see my corpse on the directional scanner. *doh* Funny because I had no aggression either. Figured I would have just e-warped off and disappeared but if they had probes ready and my setup being 100% honor tank, they could easily kill me.

So I call my IP and start asking questions on why my internet went down and they said there is signs of malicious activity that was coming through to my address at that time. Unfortunately their investigations department doesn't get in till 8 a.m. So I have to wait and see what they find.

So between being told I'm about to have a bad day and evidence of some bullshit happening, I guess I just had my ship meta gamed. lol I don't really care about the loss, it was expensive, I just am not a fan of these kinds of tactics. :oops:

I was told to invest in a proxy but I'm no computer guy so I will have to enlist one of my IT friends to help me.

Viper Shizzle
May 31 2011, 12:13:32 PM
that's fucking hilarious

Marlona Sky
May 31 2011, 12:22:31 PM
that's fucking hilarious

It honestly is. I remember when I fit it, I was thinking, "If for some damn reason I get disconnected using this..." :lol:

Viper Shizzle
May 31 2011, 12:23:26 PM
The only good NCdot is a dead NCdot :smugbert:

Helen
May 31 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Haha who told you to expect a bad day?
:popcorn:

Marlona Sky
May 31 2011, 12:54:50 PM
Haha who told you to expect a bad day?
:popcorn:

?[ 2011.05.31 09:54:56 ] Vlade Randal > get ready to have a bad day ;)


Anyways... back to more serious reports. Any bets on if NC really bring the noise or will they fizzle?

Vilgan
May 31 2011, 03:08:40 PM
Haha who told you to expect a bad day?
:popcorn:

?[ 2011.05.31 09:54:56 ] Vlade Randal > get ready to have a bad day ;)


Anyways... back to more serious reports. Any bets on if NC really bring the noise or will they fizzle?

They'll bring the noise, but it is still retarded. DRF/PL/friends reinforce stuff. NC goes crazy and batphones everyone and tell people to not go to work or whatever. DRF/PL/friends blue ball and maybe snag a tower that comes out at a bad time or catch parts of the fleet and kill them. repeat 2-3 more times, then 3rd or 4th time they do bring it and lots of CSAAs die. Drawing a line in the sand around a soft target that is only of import to the MV ceo and a few others making lots of isk is foolish.

So does the 2nd part of the Jump Bridge nerf go in today?

Jackblasta
May 31 2011, 03:54:23 PM
Haha who told you to expect a bad day?
:popcorn:

?[ 2011.05.31 09:54:56 ] Vlade Randal > get ready to have a bad day ;)


Anyways... back to more serious reports. Any bets on if NC really bring the noise or will they fizzle?

hmm that's worrying that some players have the means to identify and target individuals IP address in game.

Marlona Sky
May 31 2011, 04:06:05 PM
Haha who told you to expect a bad day?
:popcorn:

?[ 2011.05.31 09:54:56 ] Vlade Randal > get ready to have a bad day ;)


Anyways... back to more serious reports. Any bets on if NC really bring the noise or will they fizzle?

hmm that's worrying that some players have the means to identify and target individuals IP address in game.

From what I am gathering, it is a lot easier than I thought too. You can get it from team speak, FHC :ohnoes: , kugu, and even eve online website. Of course it is illegal as fuck, but if it is coming from some shit country that does not give a shit about this stuff, then there is nothing I can do to the party responsible. What I can do is take steps to do a better job of protecting my IP address. I am just wondering to what extremes I will have to go to.

I don't know, this seems to have gone beyond 'it's just a game' for some people. :shock:

ElweSingollo
May 31 2011, 04:06:21 PM
not playing and no it expert but I imagine easiest way would be to skim ip from TS/vent server said person is on and do it that way? ofc I may be talking absolute bollocks but I imagine it would be highly difficult to get those details via way of the eve client.

EchoEpsilon23
May 31 2011, 04:15:08 PM
From previous experience, I've setup IP tracer run time if my internet goes down mysteriously, usually that pinpoints wherever this person is and thus I can send this information to FBI, since I operate a small home online business which I could say this was attack on that not me playing EVE.

Liptonez
May 31 2011, 04:52:46 PM
Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

Tai
May 31 2011, 05:39:38 PM
As if the server will be stable after extended downtime :psyccp:

Given the patch deployment so far, I can see this going well :derper:

Helen
May 31 2011, 06:47:02 PM
Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

Tengu > Abaddon though.


But Titan > Tengu.


But CCP > everything as server is down.

:derper:

Resi
May 31 2011, 07:08:00 PM
[quote=Helen]Haha who told you to expect a bad day?
:popcorn:

?[ 2011.05.31 09:54:56 ] Vlade Randal > get ready to have a bad day ;)


Anyways... back to more serious reports. Any bets on if NC really bring the noise or will they fizzle?

hmm that's worrying that some players have the means to identify and target individuals IP address in game.

From what I am gathering, it is a lot easier than I thought too. You can get it from team speak, FHC :ohnoes: , kugu, and even eve online website. Of course it is illegal as fuck, but if it is coming from some shit country that does not give a shit about this stuff, then there is nothing I can do to the party responsible. What I can do is take steps to do a better job of protecting my IP address. I am just wondering to what extremes I will have to go to.

I don't know, this seems to have gone beyond 'it's just a game' for some people. :shock:[/quote:2huakzd6]

I can't imagine what measures serious tournie teams must have to go through if this is the sort of stuff that happens. :psyduck:

Jester
May 31 2011, 07:42:20 PM
I don't know, this seems to have gone beyond 'it's just a game' for some people. :shock:I can't imagine what measures serious tournie teams must have to go through if this is the sort of stuff that happens.
Politics: this sort of thing has been going on for years. For instance, the story that Mittens used to tell about Russians offering to him to arrange to cut the power to a Titan pilot's house mid-battle. It's just the threshold for execution that's being lowered to what I would consider almost dangerous/routine levels. For instance, the DDOS attacks on EN24 and the Goons's forums...

Lowa [NSN]
May 31 2011, 08:36:43 PM
This game was way too serious for some in 2004 already. Its just the "too serious part" that have become more advanced.

Anyway, this shit doesnt belong so tell me, how does the map look like? Any huge glowing dots somewhere?

Tyrehl
May 31 2011, 09:06:45 PM
No way to hide your ip in TS? Aww shit...

forteh
May 31 2011, 09:13:27 PM
no battlereport, but this is what the grid looks like after round 1, kinda hard to take good pictures as the wreck line streches almost 500km, it is fair to say though that this round went to DRF + friends

http://www.abload.de/img/gghj0z.jpg

Traxio Nacho
May 31 2011, 09:45:50 PM
So are the CSAA's coming out tonight and if so are any really at risk or have NC pulled there finger out?

forteh
May 31 2011, 09:49:50 PM
so far we have had 3 engagements, all 3 went in favour of the DRF, I saw some NC pilots losing 3 abbadons in a row. also apart from jump in lag / grid taking a bit to load the server performance has been surprisingly good

Viper Shizzle
May 31 2011, 10:05:52 PM
So long NC o/

Rans
May 31 2011, 10:06:21 PM
from k.com:
30 Aeon
58 Nyx
2 Wyvern

16 Avatar
15 Erberus
1 Leviathon
2 Rags
PL/NCdot/RAIDEN.

Traxio Nacho
May 31 2011, 10:17:53 PM
from k.com:
30 Aeon
58 Nyx
2 Wyvern

16 Avatar
15 Erberus
1 Leviathon
2 Rags
PL/NCdot/RAIDEN.

No Hel's? Damn racists!!

Sponk
May 31 2011, 11:15:19 PM
from k.com:

link? kb?

Rans
May 31 2011, 11:19:12 PM
This just in, REAL proof that PL are exploiters:

(1:09:50 AM) PL Mr Rive: so nc have 130 alpha + 200 abaddons + 200 "cap fleet" + 100 aaa?
(1:09:54 AM) PL Mr Rive: ***** do you have the DDOS ready?

~sound the alarms~
http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.ph ... lind-Venal (http://www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?9807-MAX3-Nothing-Personal-(Tribute-Pure-Blind-Venal))&p=242157&viewfull=1#post242157

Also although k.com might have a lot of shitposting it's great to read during PL ops because their members are so ADD they feel the need to update every 3 minutes. And Centra makes fun of Rive

Seleene
May 31 2011, 11:29:51 PM
Sup?

http://img.bdci-eve.net/img/WH-JCA_01.jpg

Leboe
May 31 2011, 11:38:48 PM
Sup?

*picture*


how smug are you that this is basically all your creation/fault (depending on one's opinion of supers)

Sponk
May 31 2011, 11:42:33 PM
Sup?
*picture*
how smug are you that this is basically all your creation/fault (depending on one's opinion of supers)
Another thread : take it there.

Traxio Nacho
May 31 2011, 11:48:49 PM
Why would AAA come and help NC :psyduck:

So with the numbers on either side I am guessing its either going to end with DRF/PL/RND killing a lot of CSAA's unopposed or the NC jumping into them and causing the server to die?

forteh
May 31 2011, 11:50:23 PM
I doubt the server would die, this node seems to be super reinforced but we will see, CSAAs coming out soon, NC./PL/RDN/etc all in place, its the NCs time to make a move

Sponk
May 31 2011, 11:51:03 PM
Why would AAA come and help NC :psyduck:
Given NC's history of selling supercaps to other alliances, maybe the ships cooking in those CSAAs are earmarked for AAA.

Surveyor
May 31 2011, 11:52:36 PM
When AAA moves to help another ally they usually mean: we fuck your pets sideways :psyduck:
Nothing better to boost your killboard and even they get it done.

Traxio Nacho
May 31 2011, 11:54:36 PM
Why would AAA come and help NC :psyduck:
Given NC's history of selling supercaps to other alliances, maybe the ships cooking in those CSAAs are earmarked for AAA.

Possible but unlikely as they have plenty of their own space to build them in ( I dont believe AAA use to buy in their SC's before)

I would guess they are worried if NC die DRF and friends will be heading their way again next, plus read something about the new AAA Exec Herc really hating DRF.

Edit: I remember the old days of AAA helping IAC always caused get fun, they had a habit of shooting up blues to IAC who were trying to help as well.

Nordstern
May 31 2011, 11:57:14 PM
I don't know, this seems to have gone beyond 'it's just a game' for some people. :shock:I can't imagine what measures serious tournie teams must have to go through if this is the sort of stuff that happens.
Politics: this sort of thing has been going on for years. For instance, the story that Mittens used to tell about Russians offering to him to arrange to cut the power to a Titan pilot's house mid-battle. It's just the threshold for execution that's being lowered to what I would consider almost dangerous/routine levels. For instance, the DDOS attacks on EN24 and the Goons's forums...
RUS/ROM is in trouble. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304563104576355623135782718.html?m od=WSJ_WSJ_US_News_3) :obama:

WASHINGTON—The Pentagon has concluded that computer sabotage coming from another country can constitute an act of war, a finding that for the first time opens the door for the U.S. to respond using traditional military force.

shigsy
June 1 2011, 12:16:34 AM
Farewell nc o7

forteh
June 1 2011, 12:16:44 AM
NC standing down without a further fight, so long o7

Nordstern
June 1 2011, 12:23:52 AM
Details?

Takon Orlani
June 1 2011, 12:25:44 AM
This is how the north ends, not with a bang but with a whimper.

Edit : God dammit viper, posting while I edit my autospell error.

Viper Shizzle
June 1 2011, 12:31:10 AM
With a whimper.

HyJek
June 1 2011, 12:42:57 AM
basically pl/rdn/ncdot/merciless ect all in wh- with 600 subcaps/supers waiting for 900 NC to come defend and it never happened...

it was described to the NC fleet as saving their ships for another fight but honestly they will just lose them whenever they do decide to fight

Garst Tyrell
June 1 2011, 12:45:18 AM
2 nc csaas building 'components' down in wh-, qcab tcu just popped, ncdot is dropping their new tcu in a sanctum to make sure the nc find it :)

more csaas to come tonight

Pretty disappointing 900 nc couldnt find a way to fight, doubt they will get a second chance like tonight

Garst Tyrell
June 1 2011, 12:53:33 AM
Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

and yet people fly fleets other than abaddons

mirror fleet fights > ganking ratters (of which theyre are barely any in the north anymore with the sanctum nerf and war)

Nordstern
June 1 2011, 01:42:42 AM
Considering who they're up against and the odds, can't say I blame them.

Takon Orlani
June 1 2011, 01:46:11 AM
Considering who they're up against and the odds, can't say I blame them.
I'm pretty sure Nc have the numbers, just not the will.

jonesbones
June 1 2011, 01:48:32 AM
Considering who they're up against and the odds, can't say I blame them.
I'm pretty sure Nc have the numbers, just not the will.

Sub cap maybe. They do not have that many willing SC pilots.

Nordstern
June 1 2011, 01:49:29 AM
Well, you also have to consider the number of competent FCs on each side, and how many ships those FCs are controlling.

Takon Orlani
June 1 2011, 02:24:24 AM
It's the same trend I've seen over the last year, alliance gets soft, decided its easier to take the golden parachute than fight.

redchief
June 1 2011, 02:52:54 AM
Goons have reset pretty much the entire NC except for Razor and MM. Goons everywhere are rubbing their neckbeards at the prospect of finally killing Stella Polaris.

Viper Shizzle
June 1 2011, 03:12:51 AM
Goons have reset pretty much the entire NC except for Razor and MM. Goons everywhere are rubbing their neckbeards at the prospect of finally killing Stella Polaris.

Good evening, gentlegoons. As you may already know, the NC forces were not able to match the 120-supercapital blob (led by a coalition of vehement anti-blobbers and anti-bluers) in Tribute and so stood down rather than waste their fleets in suicidal gestures (this was the correct decision). The NC as a whole is likely to cease to exist after this engagement (whereupon seven or so full CSAAs will/have died), as key parties have Had Enough With All Of This Nonsense; as a result, there's nothing restraining me from resetting various 'NC Blues' who we don't actually have any relationship with. Going forward RAGE, BCA, OWN, Stella Polaris, United Front Alliance and Majesta Empire are all reset, as well as various 'bullshyt guests' such as Demon Hunters and god knows who else we can find to prune off the list. Violet entity, Cold Steel Alliance, Polar Splendour. Enough, enough!

Of course, we will remain blue to our core allies in Morsus Mihi and Razor, and our local partners in the Pure Blind region, as well as aiding them in the process of rebuilding after the difficulties of the past few days. Our debts to our friends in Morsus and Razor will not be forgotten; meanwhile, it's hard for me to figure out what we owe 'Cold Steel Alliance', or even who the hell they are.

*** This was a broadcast from themittani to all, replies are not monitored ***

Sponk
June 1 2011, 03:24:46 AM
West NC only remaining NC?

jonesbones
June 1 2011, 03:54:17 AM
It's the same trend I've seen over the last year, alliance gets soft, decided its easier to take the golden parachute than fight.

That trend is much older than one year.

Marlona Sky
June 1 2011, 04:44:59 AM
It's nice to see the cancer of this game finally dying tbh.

Takon Orlani
June 1 2011, 05:47:42 AM
It's the same trend I've seen over the last year, alliance gets soft, decided its easier to take the golden parachute than fight.

That trend is much older than one year.
Just referencing my personal experience with it, I realize its the norm.

Shamtard
June 1 2011, 07:46:05 AM
Im just gonna throw this out there and you can decide if it is a troll or not, but without PL Russians would have failed, NC. didnt turn the tide and neither did merciless. or black legion even though everyone wants to take sole credit. The main reasons the north stood for so long was because people we retarded in their strategies. PL had it right everyone listened to PL and they succeeded. Now Triumvirate (or NC. whatever you call yourself these days) will dwindle away and die because you litterally have no purpose left in this game, the north is gone your end game is done.
CCP is gonna NERF the shit out of Tech moons because lets be completely honest they don't want the russians buying jetstreams, and yachts instead of houses and cars. Someone else will move into the dronelands and this vicious cycle will start all over again. Just stating the truth about this, have fun grinding SOV brosefs, gonna take you half a fucking year to grind all of those fully upgraded systems and by the end of it your gonna be burnt out and someone is gonna piss in your new lawn. lololololololololololol


in before u mad bro.

Gorion Wassenar
June 1 2011, 07:52:59 AM
Change is life.

Barbaro55a
June 1 2011, 08:04:58 AM
A lot of mad people here, still early days i know - but wonder what all those NC pilots will do now. Empire or drone lands?

Evil Synns
June 1 2011, 08:08:24 AM
CCP is gonna NERF the shit out of Tech moons because lets be completely honest they don't want the russians buying jetstreams, and yachts instead of houses and cars.
in before u mad bro.

What did the NC buy with the tech moons? It sure as hell wasn't super caps? I think the grunts of the NC really needed to wake up and open their eyes. There is either NC heeds with TRILLIONS in their wallet, or they been e-baying it cause the richest space, the most and stable number of CSAA for the longest of times, the Largest number of members (all of which ratted in space with rats that gave bounties) with tax. And yet the NC could not field more super caps than PL?

There is something wrong with all the muck throwing about Russian bot ratters when the NC should have the most isk in all of eve!

just my 2 cent (I like the russians, I have no clue if they bot, but I know the NC and I know how much isk they make a week, so I fall into the camp, if anyone is selling isk for USD it has to be the NC).

Shamtard
June 1 2011, 08:11:54 AM
CCP is gonna NERF the shit out of Tech moons because lets be completely honest they don't want the russians buying jetstreams, and yachts instead of houses and cars.
in before u mad bro.

What did the NC buy with the tech moons? It sure as hell wasn't super caps? I think the grunts of the NC really needed to wake up and open their eyes. There is either NC heeds with TRILLIONS in their wallet, or they been e-baying it cause the richest space, the most and stable number of CSAA for the longest of times, the Largest number of members (all of which ratted in space with rats that gave bounties) with tax. And yet the NC could not field more super caps than PL?

There is something wrong with all the muck throwing about Russian bot ratters when the NC should have the most isk in all of eve!

just my 2 cent (I like the russians, I have no clue if they bot, but I know the NC and I know how much isk they make a week, so I fall into the camp, if anyone is selling isk for USD it has to be the NC).


You have apparently never done a roam into russian space, atleast when we go on a roam up north we get tons of people to shoot, the russians are literally going to own 60% of 0.0 thats gonna be 60% of 0.0 you will get no fights. EVE is about to become a very boring place.

Elise Randolph
June 1 2011, 08:17:53 AM
Geminate is down, Vale is conquered, may as well make a new thread for the invasion of Tribute.

Battlereport : May 31 - The Sick Man of Tribute

Preface

While DRF Legion forces have been tending house in Vale, with the final station falling this week, the NC moved en masse to "fortress Tribute" in H-W. Sounding every alarm they could find, the NC stood their ground and piled together to save Tribute from the onslaught they assumed was coming. For two weeks there was no assault on Tribute, save for one system in 3G-L. To say things for the NC in general were getting better, however, would be a gross overstatement. In the two weeks since Vale fell, twenty-five Super Caps, over 70 Technetium moons, and nearly every NC fleet fielded across all timezones fell victim to the vicious DRF Legion assaults. Still, Fortress Tribute was safe. The respite was short-lived, though, as this week saw increased hostility in Tribute.

Throughout the lopsided defeats and the face-slapping resets, the NC member-base stood strong in their resolve; they continued to show up with more and more numbers to cash the checks their leadership was writing. Traditionally NC Leadership has kept them in a position of power, but now NC High Command had become engrossed with bickering and in-fighting. Constant losses and super-capital miscues did nothing to ease the tensions. The fighting reached such high levels that Goons stepped in and relieved the NC Sky Marshall from power, replacing him with a much more accomplished leader: Goons own Rydis. The NC member base were happy by this decision, finally organizational structure existed. Fleets would meet up and be flying in a unified doctrine instead of a hodgepodge whatever-yo composition. All seemed well on the surface, but the backlash by the NC command structure was fierce as FCs exchanged conciliatory remarks. Still, in spite of all this the NCs members kept them in the fight. Just when it seemed that the NC were destined to become caricatures of their former selves Vuk Lau returned and lit a fire under the NC leadership. For a moment it seemed like the NC War Machine was on its way back.

On Friday the NC announced that they would finally stand up and dust off their Supercapital fleet in a massive counter-offensive that would last the weekend. After standing idly by as two regions burned to the ground, NC High Command figured they could flip the switch and go immediately back to their winning ways. Friday came and passed with little more than a whimper. The platitudes echoed in the empty halls, “tomorrow is another day” they said. Saturday came and went with few small skirmishes over what remained of NC Technetium moons. As TEST Alliance shockingly announced an NC reset, DRF Legion forces paraded through Tribute reinforcing CSAAs in the heart of the once-mighty fortress. Cracks were beginning to show in the foundations of Fortress Tribute.

To be or not to be

“Anyway at this moment war is not lost Y?T. As I said Tuesday is ‘to be or not be’ for the NC in its current structure, in true meaning of that expression. It’s purely upon us to choose the fate of ourselves.” – Vuk Lau. The gauntlet was thrown. PL’s own Sky Marshall, Phreeze, accepted the challenge. Together with DRF allies NCdot, Merciless, Raiden, and the relentless warriors of IRC, he formulated a bold plan. As the server loaded, the rambunctious PL forces amassed with their trademark, fear inducing, Thundercat fleet. In just moments the largest Tengu fleet ever seen was formed, with over one-hundred Tengus fielded in a stunning display of backwards-flying grace. Inspired by their Sky Marshall, PL was the first to respond and was able to get into WH-J before the NC could even form. The impetuous Legion took the cyno-jammer down as a slack-jawed NC stood shell-shocked. Testing the resolve of DRF Legion forces, the NC cautiously left the safety of their perch in H-W, into D-7, and set up on the WH-J gate. The NC knew they needed to regain control of the system if they stood any hope of keeping the cyno-jammer up; four hundred NC, with an additional two-hundred Capitals formed, couldn’t muster the courage to take the last plunge.

“Fortune favors the bold” Sky Marshall Phreeze chimed in, and with that DRF Legion forces did the unthinkable and gave up their tactical advantage to get a fight. It was up to High Admiral Shadoo and Elendar to conduct the Thundercat fleet, and so they did. Firing on all cylinders, the astute commanders harnessed the majesty of the Legion and, fighting heavy fleet-lag, inflicted massive amounts of damage on the NC fleets taking next to no losses whatsoever. Calling five simultaneous targets, the PL commanders overwhelmed the NC fleets with an unprecedented amount of carnage. Filled with blood lust, Shadoo tenaciously followed the fleeing NC fleets into H-W, again inflicting his will upon the hostile fleet. By the end of the encounter, the battlefield was littered with just shy of 200 NC wrecks. The fleets were broken, noses were bloodied.

The NC were now grasping at straws, having leveraged everything on this night they hoped that time would be on their side. PL numbers did dwindle as time passed, but the core remained intact. Conversely, the NC was getting some fresh blood to bolster their numbers. PL Advanced Scouts were taken aback as they spotted the movement of NC lapdogs –A- moving a 130 man BS fleet from Feythabolis. The NC were truly desperate, but their desperation netted them a mighty 800 man sub-capital fleet with 200 Capitals in reserve. With less than half of the support numbers, Phreeze retained his composure and refused to back down from a fight. “The road to glory is paved with brave souls”, the Sky Marshall began, “and you have enough spirit to pave that road forty times over. We can stand down now and say we got to the brink of glory and nobody would question our fight. Hey, we just about got there – that’s something right? Wrong. Nothing succeeds like success. I say we fight our way into the light, make our dreams become their nightmares.” And with that the PL War Machine was ready to fight the NC hordes. Taking everything to the gate, PL and allies waited patiently for what would be one of the largest fights of the campaign.

Seeing this, the NC fleet once again left the safety of their POS and motioned toward WH-J. Now with a much larger gang, facing a slightly smaller opponent, the outcome would surely be different. The NC gang still had cold feet; mistaking bravery for foolishness they unsuccessfully tried to goad the PL forces into giving up the position in WH-. The NC were at the precipice of redemption, staring fortune squarely in the eyes, and yet they still were reluctant to take the final plunge. Riddled with self doubt, the NC began to convince themselves that they were going to lose everything; it was clear their hearts were not in the fight. Plagued by their indecisiveness and an unwillingness to fight for something, the NC disbanded all 900 members.

The loss of seven CSAAs with active supers in build will not be significant in the long run; in fact it’ll be nothing more than a mere blip on the radar. What will be revealed, though, is that the fortress is not impenetrable. It begs to question how much longer will the NC leadership issue ultimatums to their member base while feeding them nothing but empty rhetoric, and for how much longer will allies prop MM up before they eventually get enveloped in their own decrepitude.

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Fatyn
June 1 2011, 08:21:25 AM
the russians are literally going to own 60% of 0.0 thats gonna be 60% of 0.0 you will get no fights. EVE is about to become a very boring place.

I think you're being overly dramatic.
I've done tons of roams in drone space and in the right areas Solar, xxdeathxx and various pets will give you some nice fights (once they have parked their bots).

Fatyn
June 1 2011, 08:23:17 AM
Thanks for the update :obama: lovely BR

Need FRAPs of 100 backwards tengus pls :)

Stoffl
June 1 2011, 08:26:32 AM
:companioncube: => dat BR

HyJek
June 1 2011, 08:29:01 AM
good post, as per usual

for those of you who missed it here's the "NC morale speech" after they stood down
http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nc-m ... 01-06#play (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nc-morale-speech-01-06#play)

what really makes me laugh is that as bad as they make the russians sound there is so many people who would rather see them die first


CONTACT YOUR LOCAL CSM REPRESENTATIVE!!!

Dodgy Past
June 1 2011, 08:42:28 AM
You have apparently never done a roam into russian space, atleast when we go on a roam up north we get tons of people to shoot, the russians are literally going to own 60% of 0.0 thats gonna be 60% of 0.0 you will get no fights. EVE is about to become a very boring place.
At what time do you roam? GMT + how much? You do realise russia is GMT -.

Smuggo
June 1 2011, 08:45:34 AM
Stayed up late and all I got was this lousy TCU killmail :(

Smuggo
June 1 2011, 08:50:45 AM
You have apparently never done a roam into russian space, atleast when we go on a roam up north we get tons of people to shoot, the russians are literally going to own 60% of 0.0 thats gonna be 60% of 0.0 you will get no fights. EVE is about to become a very boring place.
At what time do you roam? GMT + how much? You do realise russia is GMT -.

Other way round.

Redclaws
June 1 2011, 08:56:34 AM
Without PL the Russians can't do shit. There is a huge difference in fighting against an RA gang vs a PL gang.

The NC will be back to equal numbers as soon as the Russians stop renting PL. Last I heard the contract got extended by a few weeks.

I'm part of the NC but not quite ready for the doom & gloom scenario I heard people talking about all the time, a lot of my fellow pilots agree.

Tafkat
June 1 2011, 08:58:35 AM
I've done tons of roams in drone space and in the right areas Solar, xxdeathxx and various pets will give you some nice fights (once they have parked their bots).
Same, when I've entered RUS space through wormholes there's generally been a few dudes who bring ships out and try to fight, although the renters get super-skittish if their numerical advantage starts to drop below 5:1.

Marlona Sky
June 1 2011, 09:17:06 AM
Another NC bot down...

https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboa ... ?id=409466 (https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=409466)

I predict many supers trying to evac or whatever being killed over the next couple of weeks.

Lallante
June 1 2011, 09:48:16 AM
So can anyone confirm if RZR/MM are throwing their toys from the pram as well or is it just Goons so far?

Fatyn
June 1 2011, 09:48:33 AM
Listening to retards on comms is way too addictive. Please stop posting so I can get back to my porn.

Fara
June 1 2011, 10:19:58 AM
The NC will be back to equal numbers as soon as the Russians stop renting PL. Last I heard the contract got extended by a few weeks.


:derper: :derper:

Don Pellegrino
June 1 2011, 10:24:27 AM
Roaming in deep russian space is boring and all the ratters/bots warp to safety as soon as someone enters local, but it has always been the same in NC space, too. The russians, however, are MUCH more likely to give you a fight if you go harass them in 0.0 entry systems. They like pvp and they have balls, unlike most american and european players. I really need to find that list of eve players ranked by nationality, but Russia was about 8-10th on the list. There isn't that many russians in eve, but they don't sit in empire space running missions, they don't mine in 0.0 or do wormhole pve. Almost every single on of them is a pvper.

They are much more skilled and fun to fight because they often engage with equal numbers and fight again if they lose (which makes them experienced). Also, I've heard that Sniggwaffe will be given M-O (can anyone confirm/deny?). You have no idea how happy that makes me. These guys are great to fight and they actually LOOK FOR pvp, unlike most corps/alliances in eve, even the so-called pvp alliances.

Evil Synns
June 1 2011, 10:25:18 AM
CONTACT YOUR LOCAL CSM REPRESENTATIVE!!!
That is FUCKING crazy!

Why are RUSSIAN taking the tech moons... ? For ISK!!!

What has the NC been doing with those tech moons? having holidays on low gravity fun palaces?


The Russians suck the fun out of Eve! lol lol lol I really laughed at that! Blobbers fighting 3 alliances + and accusing others of taking the fun out!

Viper Shizzle
June 1 2011, 10:38:11 AM
So can anyone confirm if RZR/MM are throwing their toys from the pram as well or is it just Goons so far?

http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nc-m ... eech-01-06 (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nc-morale-speech-01-06)

I can't wait for my free laptop!

Fara
June 1 2011, 10:43:20 AM
confirming I'd totally drop any jammer for a holiday on jamaica. 2 weeks and hookers free

Liptonez
June 1 2011, 10:50:58 AM
Roaming in deep russian space is boring and all the ratters/bots warp to safety as soon as someone enters local, but it has always been the same in NC space, too. The russians, however, are MUCH more likely to give you a fight if you go harass them in 0.0 entry systems. They like pvp and they have balls, unlike most american and european players. I really need to find that list of eve players ranked by nationality, but Russia was about 8-10th on the list. There isn't that many russians in eve, but they don't sit in empire space running missions, they don't mine in 0.0 or do wormhole pve. Almost every single on of them is a pvper.

They are much more skilled and fun to fight because they often engage with equal numbers and fight again if they lose (which makes them experienced). Also, I've heard that Sniggwaffe will be given M-O (can anyone confirm/deny?). You have no idea how happy that makes me. These guys are great to fight and they actually LOOK FOR pvp, unlike most corps/alliances in eve, even the so-called pvp alliances.

Yeah, this so much. It's basically the reason why I think that 1/3rd of the map RUS is better than 1/3rd of the map NC.

In the real depths of drone space, russians just park their ratting Ravens/Domis, fit heavy neuts and points to them, then bait with those. Then just engage gangs with what they have, not sit on station until their fleet is 3x your size.

Also best part, they don't post embarassing shit like "lol u mad, lol y u so mad, lol u r so mad" in local.

Traxio Nacho
June 1 2011, 11:18:28 AM
So can anyone confirm if RZR/MM are throwing their toys from the pram as well or is it just Goons so far?

http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nc-m ... eech-01-06 (http://soundcloud.com/plrecordings/nc-morale-speech-01-06)

I can't wait for my free laptop!

Who is it giving the morale speech?

Well if CCP bring in ship modding with WIS PL are going to have gold plated ships with their 650bil per month they are getting :monocledowns: :facepalm:

Marlona Sky
June 1 2011, 11:26:42 AM
Holy shit, the sheer amount of derp in those recordings is off the fucking charts!

Mangala Solaris
June 1 2011, 11:29:08 AM
So much racism in that recording.

However despite that, the comms porn that has been released during the ongoing campaign has always worth listening too.

Thanks for the BR also Elise, really love reading them.

Traxio Nacho
June 1 2011, 11:31:22 AM
Holy shit, the sheer amount of derp in those recordings is off the fucking charts!

"Hey guys remember PL took BRUCE out and they came back so don't worry we'll be fine" :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

Helen
June 1 2011, 11:32:26 AM
All alliances that go to NPC space come back stronger. :derper:

Smuggo
June 1 2011, 11:33:38 AM
The NC one seems pretty much like they've given up on Tribute already and are thinking about their comeback.