[Mafia] 16th Century Style - OOG and rules discussion

[Lana Torrin]

So I figure our Mafra games have been too hard for the village and it gets frustrating for everyone involved, causiong burnout. As a result, I want to run an easymode game (that isnt as odd as orks). We can discuss the rules here, but im going to be justifying them as I write them.

Mafia Witchhunt - The Rules

The village is split between villigers and witches. There will be a fixed (and known at the start of the game) number of witches. As a general guide im going to be going for 1/5th of the people, so if we have 20 people, we will have 4 witches.

Of the non witch viligers, a fixed number (im shooting for half the number of witches, so in the example above we would have 2) of villigers will be priests.

At the start of the game, no one, including the witches, knows anyone elses roles.

Every turn every person left alive in the village votes for who to drown or burn next. People can abstain from voting. At the end of the day, votes are counted and the person with the most number of votes against them is killed and take no firther part in the game. In the case of a draw, no one is 'witch tested'

Once per turn each witch votes TWICE (labeling them as vote 1 and vote 2) for diferent people. The person voted for the most with everyones primary vote has a spell cast on them and dies. In the case of a draw no one dies. If all the remaining witches vote for the same first target, then this process is repeated for the 2nd vote (otherwise vote 2 is ignored). If only 1 witch remains alive then only get 1 vote.

Once per turn each priest can 'prey for advice'. This will reveal if the target they prey for is a witch or a villiger (It will not reveal if they are a priest however).

Every target that dies will have their role revieled for everyone to see.

The reasoning

I wanted to keep the number of roles light so villigers actualy have a worth and 'common viligers' dont gewt all upset by not having a special rule. Being a priest is very dangerous as no one is able to actualy verify your role, and you have no doctors to keep you alive once you reveal.

Not having the witches know eachother at the start means they cant just sit there and do nothing all game. They will need to work out the other witches or they are more likely to not kill viligers than kill them each turn. This give the advantage to the village at the start unless they can work things out fast.

The idea of the 2 votes is to keep the witches trying to work out who the other witches are till the end, and in addition should help to balance out the inevitable non witch killings that will happen in the first few rounds. They ONLY get the 2nd vote if they all agree on who to vote for, indicating they probably are communicating with eachother, or it was a really obvious vote.

We can discuss the rules or I can clarify them (and make even more typoes). I'm also happy to take signups in this thread (I'll add them to the OP)

Suckers Signups
Kilabi
Navigator Six
LarkinAlpha
Nicho Void
Victoria Steckersaurus
pratell
cullnean
Qwert
ctrlchris
Me
DrumWithMe2012
Q

[Kilabi]

o/

Only game I can play from work right.

SIGN UP TO ALL THE MAFIA GAMES!

[Navigator Six]

Awesome; room for one more?

[dpidcoe]

This is actually an interesting dynamic, because now the witches have to be able to drop hints somehow in order to get the second kill.

The only problem I would see is that assuming the witches vote random with the village then the villagers have nothing to go on and are essentially voting random as well. Witches then only need to get one secret killing (also picked at random since no one knows who anyone is) right in order to be statistically ahead of the villagers for the rest of the game. Priests don't help to shift the advantage, since they can direct only one successful lynch before getting wacked (and possibly resulting in a second villager dieing as well due to one-time coordinated vote).

Also having one moron playing witch basically screws it up for all of them.

[Lana Torrin]

This is actually an interesting dynamic, because now the witches have to be able to drop hints somehow in order to get the second kill.

The only problem I would see is that assuming the witches vote random with the village then the villagers have nothing to go on and are essentially voting random as well. Witches then only need to get one secret killing (also picked at random since no one knows who anyone is) right in order to be statistically ahead of the villagers for the rest of the game. Priests don't help to shift the advantage, since they can direct only one successful lynch before getting wacked (and possibly resulting in a second villager dieing as well due to one-time coordinated vote).

Also having one moron playing witch basically screws it up for all of them.

Obviously there are tricks to this. Its 'easy mode' because its hard for both sides.

You also get the roles on death, so this is about as much info as you get in a normal mafia game, you just get the advantage of not losing a dozen viligers before you start to get a clue.

I'm also not above having a doctor in the game. I hjust thought that might swing it TO far in the villigers favor..

[LarkinAlpha]

As a result, I want to run an easymode game (that isnt as odd as orks).

Whoo hoo, game success! Also signing up for this, as I didn't see any glaring issues with the rules. Once the witches figure out who else is a witch, you'll probably start to see patterns.

[Nicho Void]

Signin up.

[Victoria Steckersaurus]

this looks terrifying.

I'm in.

Burn the Witch!

[pratell]

i'm in

[cullnean]

As a result, I want to run an easymode game (that isnt as odd as orks).

Whoo hoo, game success! Also signing up for this, as I didn't see any glaring issues with the rules. Once the witches figure out who else is a witch, you'll probably start to see patterns.
im thr==e best at orks

signing up

[cullnean]

As a result, I want to run an easymode game (that isnt as odd as orks).

Whoo hoo, game success! Also signing up for this, as I didn't see any glaring issues with the rules. Once the witches figure out who else is a witch, you'll probably start to see patterns.
im thr==e best at orks

signing up

[Qwert]

Signing up

[ctrlchris]

Only playing if I get to be the witch

[Kilabi]

$$ctrlchris

[Toxic]

Chris isnt a witch, he is a bitch :p

[Victoria Steckersaurus]

are the witches 2 votes private, I assume? Like, PMed to you? The rules don't specify, I figured I'd make sure.

[Lana Torrin]

are the witches 2 votes private, I assume? Like, PMed to you? The rules don't specify, I figured I'd make sure.

Yep, witches voting and the Priests paying will be PM'd to me. Village voting is all out in the open as per normal mafra style..

[pratell]

when we gonna start

[Lana Torrin]

when we gonna start

I don't know... I'm not sure 9 is enough to run with.. Unless we go for 2 witches and 1 priest..

Wonder of Cue or Drum would like to play..

[Me]

I'll play.

[DrumWithMe2012]

Why not? I'm in! I'll bug Cue and see if he wants in too.

[Cue1*]

I told Lana via PM I was in. :P

[Lana Torrin]

Yeah but I forgot to update the thread.

When did we want to start this? With 12 people I think we should run 3 witches and 1 priest.

[Victoria Steckersaurus]

I felt that this was appropriate.

http://media.fukung.net/images/32419/2b7e823328636944e3f4a02a838da37e.png

[duckduck]

I'd like to play, please.
(Haven't played Mafia before, but the rules seem clear and I did a bit of googling.)

[pratell]

i'm good to start whenever.

[DrumWithMe2012]

Whenever is good for me too! Sooner than later sounds great though. :)

[Lana Torrin]

Orks is done. I don't post much on the weekend (because I have a life) so how does 'Start Saturday, 48hours for the first turn' sound? This will make the first update Monday my time.

Updates will be at 9am my time because I'll have just made it to work and that's 1am GMT.

[pratell]

Orks is done. I don't post much on the weekend (because I have a life) so how does 'Start Saturday, 48hours for the first turn' sound? This will make the first update Monday my time.

Updates will be at 9am my time because I'll have just made it to work and that's 1am GMT.

m8 wut timezone are you in? otherwise yes sounds good.

[Victoria Steckersaurus]

let's see... that should be 8pm eastern... works great. sweet.

[Cue1*]

let's see... that should be 8pm eastern... works great. sweet.

Thanks for doing the math for me.

the thing from the buzz buzz

[LarkinAlpha]

Yeah works fine for me.

[DrumWithMe2012]

Perfect. This should be a good game!

[cullnean]

Orkily dokaliy

Tapatalk

[Varcaus]

Can we test witches by seeing if they float first?

[LarkinAlpha]

Can we test witches by seeing if they float first?

Only if you try building bridges out of them first. Have to cover all the bases.

[Lana Torrin]

Can we test witches by seeing if they float first?

The village can vote on drowning or burning as a test if they want (or anything else).

I'm just not doing that 'do they weigh the same as a duck' thing.. Thats dumb.. Ducks are heavy.

[Navigator Six]

Can we test witches by seeing if they float first?

The village can vote on drowning or burning as a test if they want (or anything else).

I'm just not doing that 'do they weigh the same as a duck' thing.. Thats dumb.. Ducks are heavy.

Why wouldn't you do the duck thing? If the villagers are going to be dumbasses, and make good posts about it, more power to them, right? 8-)

[duckduck]

There is no scientific connection between ducks and witches. At all. Just saying.

[Me]

http://www.zymetrical.com/images/witch-rubber-duck.jpg

Quack.

[Navigator Six]

There is no scientific connection between ducks and witches. At all. Just saying.

Sounds like witch talk to me. Someone get my duck.

[Lana Torrin]

You should all now have a PM telling you your roles. If I missed someone then please PM me (I got confused about half way through).

Game thread is up.

Ducks will have their heads cut off and eaten.

[Lana Torrin]

Good job I wrote the roles down because I have already forgotten them.

[Cue1*]

Good job I wrote the roles down because I have already forgotten them.

I spent all of the game I ran checking everyone's roles. I was afraid some random villager would ask for a sheriff check.

the thing from the buzz buzz

[LarkinAlpha]

Good job I wrote the roles down because I have already forgotten them.

I spent all of the game I ran checking everyone's roles. I was afraid some random villager would ask for a sheriff check.

the thing from the buzz buzz

I should of tried that tbh...

[Nobody_Holme]

Quackbot is a witch!

[dpidcoe]

Good job I wrote the roles down because I have already forgotten them.

I spent all of the game I ran checking everyone's roles. I was afraid some random villager would ask for a sheriff check.

the thing from the buzz buzz

I should of tried that tbh...

I would have tried that, but I was afraid of GM retaliation if it worked.

[Lana Torrin]

Cul has just messaged me and says he cant play. I missed duckduck's application in this thread before, so if he agrees im going to just do a 1 for 1 swap. As we haven't had a full turn yet it should effect the game.

[Navigator Six]

Cul has just messaged me and says he cant play. I missed duckduck's application in this thread before, so if he agrees im going to just do a 1 for 1 swap. As we haven't had a full turn yet it should effect the game.

We do need more ducks, to be fair. Though if duck does join, he's obviously a witch. Or two witches, to be precise.

[Pacefalm]

Already know who all the witches are crew checking in

[Lana Torrin]

The duck is in, cul is out.. But as I only just told him then cul's vote stands unless duckduck changes it in the next 2 and a half hours.

[Lana Torrin]

Is Victoria actually alive? No vote or post at all yesterday.

I'm also considering slightly changing some rules if I run this again.. Biggest one being 'Day ends at xxx time unless someone has posted in the last 10 mins, then its extended for 10 mins'.. Meaning if there is a lively debate going on at days end (like today) it can continue until everyone is happy with their vote rather than it being cut short like today.

[Cue1*]

Drum was burnt and found to be a villager.

Mission ACCOMPLISHED!

[Lana Torrin]

Drum was burnt and found to be a villager.

Mission ACCOMPLISHED!

Why do I get the feeling we have all been played so Cue will get even MORE angry sex from drum.. DONT DO IT DRUM.

[DrumWithMe2012]

Drum was burnt and found to be a villager.

Mission ACCOMPLISHED!

Why do I get the feeling we have all been played so Cue will get even MORE angry sex from drum.. DONT DO IT DRUM.

Thanks, Lana. I wasn't mad enough at him to have angry sex. (He has yet to do something that bad). I would say that I'd try to abstain but it really is just too good. :p

[Lana Torrin]

Drum was burnt and found to be a villager.

Mission ACCOMPLISHED!

Why do I get the feeling we have all been played so Cue will get even MORE angry sex from drum.. DONT DO IT DRUM.

Thanks, Lana. I wasn't mad enough at him to have angry sex. (He has yet to do something that bad). I would say that I'd try to abstain but it really is just too good. :p

But you are just reinforcing bad behavior...

[DrumWithMe2012]

Unfortunately so but I think I can put up with his antics and inability to let me successfully play a single game of mafia for his company. For some strange reason, I love the guy. But despite his future efforts, I WILL play a game of Mafia and not get murdered within the first few rounds.

[Bentguru]

Already know who all the witches are crew checking in

At least two are being blindingly obvious

[Lana Torrin]

Unfortunately so but I think I can put up with his antics and inability to let me successfully play a single game of mafia for his company. For some strange reason, I love the guy. But despite his future efforts, I WILL play a game of Mafia and not get murdered within the first few rounds.

I'll make you a witch next time, they seem to last longer than villagers.

[dpidcoe]

I'm kind of sad they wacked nicho. I wanted to see him get accused and claim to be a priest (and the lol when he turned out to be a normal villager again) :(

Also kinda wishing I'd been in on this game and gotten witch, I could hand it to the witches on a silver platter in 1 turn and not even worry about having to social engineer hard.

[Lana Torrin]

I'm kind of sad they wacked nicho. I wanted to see him get accused and claim to be a priest (and the lol when he turned out to be a normal villager again) :(

Also kinda wishing I'd been in on this game and gotten witch, I could hand it to the witches on a silver platter in 1 turn and not even worry about having to social engineer hard.

I FSKING ASKED YOU TO JOIN...

Next time.. If the rule set it liked (I think it would be better with more players and 2 priests that cant verify each-other easily) I'm happy to do another one.

[dpidcoe]

I'm kind of sad they wacked nicho. I wanted to see him get accused and claim to be a priest (and the lol when he turned out to be a normal villager again) :(

Also kinda wishing I'd been in on this game and gotten witch, I could hand it to the witches on a silver platter in 1 turn and not even worry about having to social engineer hard.

I FSKING ASKED YOU TO JOIN...

Next time.. If the rule set it liked (I think it would be better with more players and 2 priests that cant verify each-other easily) I'm happy to do another one.
I was going to, but my school schedule is packed. You know those dreams about realizing you're enrolled in a class that you completely forgot about and haven't been attending for half the semester? That's almost literally happening with some of my classes right now.

You should have just stuck me in there anyway :P

[DrumWithMe2012]

Unfortunately so but I think I can put up with his antics and inability to let me successfully play a single game of mafia for his company. For some strange reason, I love the guy. But despite his future efforts, I WILL play a game of Mafia and not get murdered within the first few rounds.

I'll make you a witch next time, they seem to last longer than villagers.


Haha! I'm always up for another round of Mafia. :)

[pratell]

Unfortunately so but I think I can put up with his antics and inability to let me successfully play a single game of mafia for his company. For some strange reason, I love the guy. But despite his future efforts, I WILL play a game of Mafia and not get murdered within the first few rounds.

I'll make you a witch next time, they seem to last longer than villagers.


Haha! I'm always up for another round of Mafia. :)you have the worst luck.

[DrumWithMe2012]

Unfortunately so but I think I can put up with his antics and inability to let me successfully play a single game of mafia for his company. For some strange reason, I love the guy. But despite his future efforts, I WILL play a game of Mafia and not get murdered within the first few rounds.

I'll make you a witch next time, they seem to last longer than villagers.


Haha! I'm always up for another round of Mafia. :)you have the worst luck.

Thank you captain obvious. It doesn't matter. I got into playing because he told me to. What's ironic is that I'm usually a regular villager/citizen. If I talk, I'm killed. If I don't talk, people think it's suspicious and I'm dead too. Either way I'm kinda screwed. Maybe one of these games I'll get in it for a few rounds.

[pratell]

Unfortunately so but I think I can put up with his antics and inability to let me successfully play a single game of mafia for his company. For some strange reason, I love the guy. But despite his future efforts, I WILL play a game of Mafia and not get murdered within the first few rounds.

I'll make you a witch next time, they seem to last longer than villagers.


Haha! I'm always up for another round of Mafia. :)you have the worst luck.

Thank you captain obvious.no u

Also should have played in the orks game!

[LarkinAlpha]

Eh, I think I'm done with normal games. You speak up and try to find the enemy and therefore people kill you, causing the village to lose. I'll bet my current tirade gets me more votes, especially since the narrative is being directed against me. Ahh well.

[cullnean]

Eh, I think I'm done with normal games. You speak up and try to find the enemy and therefore people kill you, causing the village to lose. I'll bet my current tirade gets me more votes, especially since the narrative is being directed against me. Ahh well.

Orks best

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[LarkinAlpha]

Eh, I think I'm done with normal games. You speak up and try to find the enemy and therefore people kill you, causing the village to lose. I'll bet my current tirade gets me more votes, especially since the narrative is being directed against me. Ahh well.

Orks best

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This. Honestly we just need rules against not participating. If you don't have the time to actually post, don't play the game.

[cullnean]

Eh, I think I'm done with normal games. You speak up and try to find the enemy and therefore people kill you, causing the village to lose. I'll bet my current tirade gets me more votes, especially since the narrative is being directed against me. Ahh well.

Orks best

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This. Honestly we just need rules against not participating. If you don't have the time to actually post, don't play the game.

Yeah its why I dropped from this one, no time.

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[Lana Torrin]

Eh, I think I'm done with normal games. You speak up and try to find the enemy and therefore people kill you, causing the village to lose. I'll bet my current tirade gets me more votes, especially since the narrative is being directed against me. Ahh well.

Orks best

Tapatalk

This. Honestly we just need rules against not participating. If you don't have the time to actually post, don't play the game.

Victoria knows the game is still running right?

What rules would you propose?

[LarkinAlpha]

Eh, I think I'm done with normal games. You speak up and try to find the enemy and therefore people kill you, causing the village to lose. I'll bet my current tirade gets me more votes, especially since the narrative is being directed against me. Ahh well.

Orks best

Tapatalk

This. Honestly we just need rules against not participating. If you don't have the time to actually post, don't play the game.

Victoria knows the game is still running right?

What rules would you propose?

After 2 days of inactivity (defined as not posting in the thread, or posting JUST votes) they are removed from play. This can be extended to 3 days with a PM to the game organizer.

It's basically what I did for Orkz and what I was planning for Inquisitor. If you're not going to be around for 2 days during an active game that usually takes between 5 and 8, there's no reason to play tbh. 25-50% absence is retarded.

[Bentguru]

After 2 days of inactivity (defined as not posting in the thread, or posting JUST votes) they are removed from play.

And banned from the next few games imo.

[Me]

After 2 days of inactivity (defined as not posting in the thread, or posting JUST votes) they are removed from play.

And banned from the next few games imo.

Take that on a case by case basis. rl shit happens after all.

[LarkinAlpha]

After 2 days of inactivity (defined as not posting in the thread, or posting JUST votes) they are removed from play.

And banned from the next few games imo.

Take that on a case by case basis. rl shit happens after all.

^^This. Banning should be due to intentional severely poor play. Such as wasting turns intentionally and repeatedly.

[Lana Torrin]

After 2 days of inactivity (defined as not posting in the thread, or posting JUST votes) they are removed from play.

And banned from the next few games imo.

Take that on a case by case basis. rl shit happens after all.

^^This. Banning should be due to intentional severely poor play. Such as wasting turns intentionally and repeatedly.

Also you have to remember some people are trying to fuck you up.

[LarkinAlpha]

Also you have to remember some people are trying to fuck you up.

That's the problem, but even then it's fairly easy. For instance, this game has earned Cue a ban from the next "serious" Mafia game I run. He wasted an entire turn AFTER he was dead so that we would kill ANOTHER Villager. Villager wasting the Villages time for at least 1 turn, and it seems like it will use up ANOTHER turn whenever the Village decides to kill me in retaliation for pointing out the obvious.

This sort of play is unacceptable IMO. I'm probably letting his running of the last "serious" Mafia game run into as well, since that was a cockup all around.

Nicho hasn't had a chance to redeem himself yet either, but he's honestly been targeted enough by now that I'd let him play. Everyone else I've forgotten or am only slightly annoyed with.

[Nicho Void]

Also you have to remember some people are trying to fuck you up.
Nicho hasn't had a chance to redeem himself yet either, but he's honestly been targeted enough by now that I'd let him play. Everyone else I've forgotten or am only slightly annoyed with.
Frankly you can get fucked. I have nothing to redeem myself from.

:taptap:

[Lana Torrin]

Also you have to remember some people are trying to fuck you up.

That's the problem, but even then it's fairly easy. For instance, this game has earned Cue a ban from the next "serious" Mafia game I run. He wasted an entire turn AFTER he was dead so that we would kill ANOTHER Villager. Villager wasting the Villages time for at least 1 turn, and it seems like it will use up ANOTHER turn whenever the Village decides to kill me in retaliation for pointing out the obvious.

This sort of play is unacceptable IMO. I'm probably letting his running of the last "serious" Mafia game run into as well, since that was a cockup all around.

Nicho hasn't had a chance to redeem himself yet either, but he's honestly been targeted enough by now that I'd let him play. Everyone else I've forgotten or am only slightly annoyed with.

I think bans, if there are going to be any, should be discussed AFTER the game when the person can defend themselves. Cue may have had a very good reason for suspecting Drum (He didn't see the PM, he asked me if he could meta that before doing it, so he didn't know either way for sure). Then again he may not have, but I would prefer the discussion about whys and why nots to be done after playing.

[Cue1*]

That's the problem, but even then it's fairly easy. For instance, this game has earned Cue a ban from the next "serious" Mafia game I run. He wasted an entire turn AFTER he was dead so that we would kill ANOTHER Villager. Villager wasting the Villages time for at least 1 turn, and it seems like it will use up ANOTHER turn whenever the Village decides to kill me in retaliation for pointing out the obvious.

Bullshit. The village choose to lynch Drum, even though she put a fuckton of work into trying to prove her innocence. Just because you're fucking incompetent doesn't mean I'm a bad player. It means you're incompetent.


This sort of play is unacceptable IMO. I'm probably letting his running of the last "serious" Mafia game run into as well, since that was a cockup all around.

Wait wait wait. Everyone cried that there were too many mafia in Spasm's game, that there needed to be more roles. So I ran a game with more roles and less mafia. Just because Me played an amazing game doesn't make it a bad game, it makes you a sore looser.

the thing from the buzz buzz

[DrumWithMe2012]

Cue was trying to get me killed first. That was his intent. He jumped and pointed the finger first and I couldn't defend it so I died. He never knew that I was a villager. For all he knew, I really was a witch. Maybe I'm missing something in what you were getting at, Larkin. I enjoy playing the Mafia games (regardless of the fact that I'm terrible at them) and I propose that the new set of rules is created, allow all to play, and should they break the rule, ban them then. With a new rule set, this might allow fuller and more interesting games. I propose that we throw up a new thread and vote up/down a new rule set for the next game and the next mafia game should be open to all. See how it goes. Ban those who cannot/do not follow the rules and go on from there. Am I the only one who feels this way?

[Lana Torrin]

So I ran a game with more roles and less mafia.

To be fair, you ran a game with a tone of roles and 1 mafia that was unaffected by the roles, therefor making pretty much all of the roles counterproductive.. In fact that was the ONLY issue I had with your game, the don role.. You are right, Me played it very well, but the rules really did help him.

[pratell]

butthurt itt

l2fun etc

[DrumWithMe2012]

Also you have to remember some people are trying to fuck you up.

That's the problem, but even then it's fairly easy. For instance, this game has earned Cue a ban from the next "serious" Mafia game I run. He wasted an entire turn AFTER he was dead so that we would kill ANOTHER Villager. Villager wasting the Villages time for at least 1 turn, and it seems like it will use up ANOTHER turn whenever the Village decides to kill me in retaliation for pointing out the obvious.

This sort of play is unacceptable IMO. I'm probably letting his running of the last "serious" Mafia game run into as well, since that was a cockup all around.

Nicho hasn't had a chance to redeem himself yet either, but he's honestly been targeted enough by now that I'd let him play. Everyone else I've forgotten or am only slightly annoyed with.

I think bans, if there are going to be any, should be discussed AFTER the game when the person can defend themselves. Cue may have had a very good reason for suspecting Drum (He didn't see the PM, he asked me if he could meta that before doing it, so he didn't know either way for sure). Then again he may not have, but I would prefer the discussion about whys and why nots to be done after playing.

This. It's only a game guys. I agree that we should wait until after a game to discuss it. Lana's game is different than Spasm's, which is different from Cue's. Everyone's game is different. If you didn't like it, don't play their games. I enjoy playing a game that my friends are in on too. I'll be honest that if you keep banning people, even more are less likely to play. Give everyone a clean slate and a shot at the next game and then see where it goes.

[Me]

So I ran a game with more roles and less mafia.

To be fair, you ran a game with a tone of roles and 1 mafia that was unaffected by the roles, therefor making pretty much all of the roles counterproductive.. In fact that was the ONLY issue I had with your game, the don role.. You are right, Me played it very well, but the rules really did help him.

Well a solo mafia who can be detected would have lead to the game being over within 2 days.


tbh it was a good game, only problem was the last round with such low numbers left and the rules bickering meant it kinda fell apart. People rely far too much on the crutch of asking the gm for info, people need to actually read posts. There was a couple of occasions where I was sure I'd given it away but since everyone was so intent on investigations no one noticed.

That's why I decided to play this one, stuff all investigator (http://i.imgur.com/QEldPLP.jpg) roles and no one knows who is who, not even the witches.

[Varcaus]

Also you have to remember some people are trying to fuck you up.
Nicho hasn't had a chance to redeem himself yet either, but he's honestly been targeted enough by now that I'd let him play. Everyone else I've forgotten or am only slightly annoyed with.
Frankly you can get fucked. I have nothing to redeem myself from.

:taptap:

GUISE GUSIE I REALLY HAVE A POWER ROLE THIS TIME!!!!1111

[Lana Torrin]

butthurt itt

l2fun etc

I would honestly recommend not discussing the butthurt in the current game until after its over. Some of it can be justified quite easily (c'mon Vic, 2 games in a row?? serious?!) some of it you need to know more before being able to judge (eg, Nicho from the last game.. I thought he was being an idiot during the game until the end and I worked out he was being played the whiole time)

[Nicho Void]

butthurt itt

l2fun etc

I would honestly recommend not discussing the butthurt in the current game until after its over. Some of it can be justified quite easily (c'mon Vic, 2 games in a row?? serious?!) some of it you need to know more before being able to judge (eg, Nicho from the last game.. I thought he was being an idiot during the game until the end and I worked out he was being played the whiole time)
Being played? Mate, I won. The fuck do I care who thought they were manipulating me?

Honestly, it doesn't much matter, I'm done with FHC Mafia. It's run it's course and isn't getting new blood because you rules lawyers continue to sperg and take the fun out of it for the vast majority of players.

[Lana Torrin]

butthurt itt

l2fun etc

I would honestly recommend not discussing the butthurt in the current game until after its over. Some of it can be justified quite easily (c'mon Vic, 2 games in a row?? serious?!) some of it you need to know more before being able to judge (eg, Nicho from the last game.. I thought he was being an idiot during the game until the end and I worked out he was being played the whiole time)
Being played? Mate, I won. The fuck do I care who thought they were manipulating me?

Honestly, it doesn't much matter, I'm done with FHC Mafia. It's run it's course and isn't getting new blood because you rules lawyers continue to sperg and take the fun out of it for the vast majority of players.

You did win yes.

[ctrlchris]

Confirming me is a motherfucker at these games. His play in cues and stephs games was 10/10.

Yes maybe cues game did go a little to far one way after spasms went a little far the other. But hind sight is always 20/20 etc.

If me wasn't as good as he is at the game cues one could have gone very differently.

tapatalk etc

[LarkinAlpha]

That's the problem, but even then it's fairly easy. For instance, this game has earned Cue a ban from the next "serious" Mafia game I run. He wasted an entire turn AFTER he was dead so that we would kill ANOTHER Villager. Villager wasting the Villages time for at least 1 turn, and it seems like it will use up ANOTHER turn whenever the Village decides to kill me in retaliation for pointing out the obvious.

Bullshit. The village choose to lynch Drum, even though she put a fuckton of work into trying to prove her innocence. Just because you're fucking incompetent doesn't mean I'm a bad player. It means you're incompetent.

Mate, I don't like how you play. I also tried to defend her, but the damage was already done. If you read the thread I abstained till late in the turn, simply because of your play the turn before. If you're going to get all defense, at least double check before calling incompetence.



This sort of play is unacceptable IMO. I'm probably letting his running of the last "serious" Mafia game run into as well, since that was a cockup all around.

Wait wait wait. Everyone cried that there were too many mafia in Spasm's game, that there needed to be more roles. So I ran a game with more roles and less mafia. Just because Me played an amazing game doesn't make it a bad game, it makes you a sore looser.

the thing from the buzz buzz

And again, a quick check would have helped here. I didn't play in your game, so watching it from the outside, it was fucking retarded. You made an early mistake in the posting, you made a mistake in the role selection and you made a mistake in how it ended. It left people butthurt and not wanting to play another, which incidentally, screwed the game I was trying to run. Orkz was fun and all, but it wasn't the game I wanted to run.

As a side effect, I don't want you playing in my games in the future. The games that I run. I only mildly suggested that you be banned from all play, because that would be douchey. Honestly I don't care. And if I do, I won't play instead.

Nicho... meh, get over it.

Also if Cue can Meta about seeing PMs I can meta about being butthurt about the current game in the OOG thread.

[ctrlchris]

Also stop being bads and shitting this thread if you want to bitch about cues or anyone elses game use the relevant OOG thread from now on.

tapatalk etc

[Lana Torrin]

Also if Cue can Meta about seeing PMs I can meta about being butthurt about the current game in the OOG thread.

:psyduck:

[LarkinAlpha]

Also if Cue can Meta about seeing PMs I can meta about being butthurt about the current game in the OOG thread.

:psyduck:

Gotta love Mafia

[Lana Torrin]

Also if Cue can Meta about seeing PMs I can meta about being butthurt about the current game in the OOG thread.

:psyduck:

Gotta love Mafia

Jesus christ I have no idea whats going on IN MY OWN GAME

[pratell]

fhc never stop

[Nicho Void]

In the spirit of making everyone feel good, we should limit signups to 2 people. That way all the spreadsheets can stay relevant and no one will actually have to make guesses and offend people.

[Lana Torrin]

In the spirit of making everyone feel good, we should limit signups to 2 people. That way all the spreadsheets can stay relevant and no one will actually have to make guesses and offend people.

I like this plan.. But I feel if you were in the game you would still manage to get killed first..

[Victoria Steckersaurus]

going to ignore the drama going on atm and say that RL has been a touch busy the last couple days, and work has been busy, thus keeping me from being able to read and post from work. I'll try to be more attentive (assuming I'm not dead yet, haven't checked other thread).

Derp, I'm dead, never mind. Sorry for dropping off the map.

[Navigator Six]

I don't see why anyone is angry at Cue. Lying is the entire point of the game, and anything that doesn't involve an actual screenshot is fair play. Cue just happened to come up with a good one.

Also

In the spirit of making everyone feel good, we should limit signups to 2 people. That way all the spreadsheets can stay relevant and no one will actually have to make guesses and offend people.
best solution. Unless Victoria is playing. 8-)

[Lana Torrin]

I don't see why anyone is angry at Cue. Lying is the entire point of the game, and anything that doesn't involve an actual screenshot is fair play. Cue just happened to come up with a good one.

I dont understand what he has done this game yet. I was not a fan of the last game due to the don role. Totally not pissed off and Cue is welcome to any other game I run..

[DrumWithMe2012]

I don't see why anyone is angry at Cue. Lying is the entire point of the game, and anything that doesn't involve an actual screenshot is fair play. Cue just happened to come up with a good one.

I dont understand what he has done this game yet. I was not a fan of the last game due to the don role. Totally not pissed off and Cue is welcome to any other game I run..

Much appreciated Lana. I may hate the fact that he gets me killed but he's a good liar in the game and that's the point. Deception. That makes for a good game.

[Victoria Steckersaurus]

It does, but when you have a game that's numerically balanced around the idea that villagers are going to be trying to hang mafia, having a villager that's trying to kill another villager can sometimes fuck up the game.

[dpidcoe]

I don't see why anyone is angry at Cue. Lying is the entire point of the game, and anything that doesn't involve an actual screenshot is fair play. :| screenshots should be fair play, we've already demonstrated the ease of faking them several times over.


Honestly, it doesn't much matter, I'm done with FHC Mafia. 3 games too late.


It does, but when you have a game that's numerically balanced around the idea that villagers are going to be trying to hang mafia, having a villager that's trying to kill another villager always fuck up the game.
FYP

[Lana Torrin]

Hahahahahahahahahaha



I am now going to bed, inb4 I wake up and everyone has voted for me.


He was damn close, that just wasn't the me he was looking for.

[Flightly]

I have to say this has been a pretty good game. I'm definitely up for another round of this.

[dpidcoe]

I have to say this has been a pretty good game. I'm definitely up for another round of this.
Cue*1 damage control alt spotted!

[Cue1*]

I have to say this has been a pretty good game. I'm definitely up for another round of this.
Cue*1 damage control alt spotted!

No, she's been trying to get entrox to change her name for a month now due to students tracking her. I guess she finally gave up and just made a new account.

[Flightly]

I did. Swear, it's me. My kids are stalking the mess out of me. They found my twitter, my facebook, and now my instagram. I'm a little peeved so I changed everything over / deleted old accounts / etc. I waited a month and after like 4 PMs, nothing so I just gave in and created a new one. They'll never figure this one out.

[Lana Torrin]

I did. Swear, it's me. My kids are stalking the mess out of me. They found my twitter, my facebook, and now my instagram. I'm a little peeved so I changed everything over / deleted old accounts / etc. I waited a month and after like 4 PMs, nothing so I just gave in and created a new one. They'll never figure this one out.

TBH if the kids find failheap you should probably tell their parents to supervise their internet use..

Also, getting trox to DO anything is next to impossible.

[Me]

Good game. I'm enjoying the write-ups after each day, Queue^3 did them well too and it adds to the game I think.

It's a bit painful being dead and not being able to post, every other game I've made it to the end.

[Flightly]

I did. Swear, it's me. My kids are stalking the mess out of me. They found my twitter, my facebook, and now my instagram. I'm a little peeved so I changed everything over / deleted old accounts / etc. I waited a month and after like 4 PMs, nothing so I just gave in and created a new one. They'll never figure this one out.

TBH if the kids find failheap you should probably tell their parents to supervise their internet use..

Also, getting trox to DO anything is next to impossible.

lmao That's a good point. None of them would even suspect me to be on something like this but I have a kid who legitimately stalked me. I've been told that he has googled my name to find more info on me. Creepy. I've used that other username for other accounts elsewhere so I'm trying to get away from it. They wouldn't ever expect to see me as Flightly.

[Flightly]

On another note, I'm finding that my kids, being from ages 14 - 18, are very well-versed in the ways of the interwebs. I remember the old days of AOL and only having a certain amount of time to spend on the internet. They've got it whenever and they search for EVERYTHING. They want to know everything about me, which is understandable since they spend so much time with me, but still! I'm also discovering that they're not nearly as innocent as I was when I was their age. Kind of a scary thought some times.

[Lana Torrin]

On another note, I'm finding that my kids, being from ages 14 - 18, are very well-versed in the ways of the interwebs. I remember the old days of AOL and only having a certain amount of time to spend on the internet. They've got it whenever and they search for EVERYTHING. They want to know everything about me, which is understandable since they spend so much time with me, but still! I'm also discovering that they're not nearly as innocent as I was when I was their age. Kind of a scary thought some times.

The word I would have used is sad. Kids need to be kids, but they only realize this when they get to be adults. I'm going through my 2nd childhood now.

[Flightly]

The word I would have used is sad. Kids need to be kids, but they only realize this when they get to be adults. I'm going through my 2nd childhood now.

I agree! I share my stories about childhood with my kids, seeing as how I LOVED my childhood. I great up GREAT but my kids don't tell stories about epic new years parties playing the new wii or hilarious games of pool horse because the cues broke. They tell stores of how drunk they were or that they were high and can't remember. I didn't drink in high school and I've never smoked anything in my 24 years alive but these kids grow up way too fast. Rather depressing when I think about it.

[dpidcoe]

I've been told that he has googled my name to find more info on me. Creepy.
Yeah, heaven forbid kids using google!

Sarcasm aside, it would probably have been a good idea to go zero out all the posts made by your other account before creating a new one, or at the least change the avatar. It's a super obvious link, and I guarantee you that they already know about your FHC account if they got your twitter. It's just a matter of if they're reading each and every post you make or not.

[Flightly]

I've been told that he has googled my name to find more info on me. Creepy.
Yeah, heaven forbid kids using google!

Sarcasm aside, it would probably have been a good idea to go zero out all the posts made by your other account before creating a new one, or at the least change the avatar. It's a super obvious link, and I guarantee you that they already know about your FHC account if they got your twitter. It's just a matter of if they're reading each and every post you make or not.

Google is awesome. But the fact that my kids google me and try to follow me everywhere is a little much. Whatever. I did take your advice on the avatar. Have already asked EntroX to delete the old one (not that that will ever happen) but my old twitter is gone, facebook has changed, and I don't think they've found this yet. It's only 2 of my kids that are really stalking me. One of them does it to all of his teachers and the other one has a MAJOR crush on me and has had it since last year during my student teaching. He's the one I'm most concerned about. I really don't have anything to hide but I post on a ton of different topics here and there are just things that they don't need to see.

[dpidcoe]

Have already asked EntroX to delete the old one (not that that will ever happen)
edit-->ctrl+a-->del-->save post

[pratell]

I've been told that he has googled my name to find more info on me. Creepy.
Yeah, heaven forbid kids using google!

Sarcasm aside, it would probably have been a good idea to go zero out all the posts made by your other account before creating a new one, or at the least change the avatar. It's a super obvious link, and I guarantee you that they already know about your FHC account if they got your twitter. It's just a matter of if they're reading each and every post you make or not.

Google is awesome. But the fact that my kids google me and try to follow me everywhere is a little much. Whatever. I did take your advice on the avatar. Have already asked EntroX to delete the old one (not that that will ever happen) but my old twitter is gone, facebook has changed, and I don't think they've found this yet. It's only 2 of my kids that are really stalking me. One of them does it to all of his teachers and the other one has a MAJOR crush on me and has had it since last year during my student teaching. He's the one I'm most concerned about. I really don't have anything to hide but I post on a ton of different topics here and there are just things that they don't need to see.

if you want entrox to do anything you have to be part of the IRC crew. call him a jewxican enough and he'll do it out of rage whether you him to or not.

[Varcaus]

Wtf kinda kids look up there teachers beyond Facebook 0.o we rather be as far away as possible. Also drop the font it sticks out drop the pic or gonna get image searched.

[Kilabi]

Seconding the "change the avatar"-crowd. If they just google the pic whey will be right back where you left off. While the pic is nice indeed I am sure you can find another to use if you want.

[Lana Torrin]

I'm sure I found you an awesome avatar before.

[Kanv]

Successful deflection of Q hatewagon?

Don't forget that he told her (a player in said game) the mafia of the game he ran WHILE IT WAS STILL IN PROGRESS

[Me]

Successful deflection of Q hatewagon?

Don't forget that he told her (a player in said game) the mafia of the game he ran WHILE IT WAS STILL IN PROGRESS

meh she was dead already and didn't spoil it for anyone.

[Lana Torrin]

Successful deflection of Q hatewagon?

Don't forget that he told her (a player in said game) the mafia of the game he ran WHILE IT WAS STILL IN PROGRESS

meh she was dead already and didn't spoil it for anyone.

Pretty much this.. none of the people I would actually trust with the info have asked for it this game..

[Flightly]

Successful deflection of Q hatewagon?

Don't forget that he told her (a player in said game) the mafia of the game he ran WHILE IT WAS STILL IN PROGRESS

Only because I asked I he knows he can trust me. He wouldn't cheat and neither would I. The only reason that I asked is because I was dead. Who would've believed me anyway? I was the nut!

[Flightly]

Avatar is changed. Thanks for the tip.

Also, I would never ask Cue to cheat. I asked him after I was dead and even then, he held out on it for a while. Even if I had known earlier, who would've believed me? I was the nut.

[dpidcoe]

Successful deflection of Q hatewagon?

Don't forget that he told her (a player in said game) the mafia of the game he ran WHILE IT WAS STILL IN PROGRESS

meh she was dead already and didn't spoil it for anyone.

Pretty much this.. none of the people I would actually trust with the info have asked for it this game..
m8