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Tyrus Tenebros
May 4 2011, 11:51:52 PM
No thread so starting off with boring standard fit:

[Abaddon, StandardBaddonBooster]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Hornet EC-300 x5
Hammerhead II x5

45km Scorch @ 649 dps (no drones)
15km INMF @ 938 dps (hammerhead IIs)
165k EHP which is fairly absurd

Gix Tyrionn
May 5 2011, 12:37:17 AM
MWDless fit to enjoy +20% cap on an energy guzzling ship. Unfortunately resigns the ship to the fate of being close to immobile. (98m/s) Great for stopping others from camping you in and less honourable station faggotry.

[Abaddon, station hero gank]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Hammerhead II x1
Hammerhead II x1
Hobgoblin II x1
Ogre II x1
Ogre II x1


1232 dps w/ conflag and Ogre mix
1126 dps w/ INMF and Ogre mix
139kehp

Needs booster to run INMF or conflag. It is capstable with either and booster.
Duel web should definitely allow tracking w/ conflag vs bc+
Mid slots are easy to swap for eccm
If your going to be receiving reps swap a plate for a second eanm, the ehp difference is only 4k and the lowest resist will be 70%

Dodgy Past
May 5 2011, 09:03:42 AM
Having flown the Abaddon a fair bit when I was in Stain I came to love it for short range response when you knew could burn boosters to your hearts content, but one fight was enough to kill the cap.

With the introduction of fits based around the T2 EDE rig it becomes a very different beast if you have pretty much all V cap skills, able to keep firing for extended fights even with a bit of MWD'ing thrown in.

This fits with a KZA1000 3% Turret CPU implant.

[Abaddon, PL Hellcat - Delve]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Heat Sink II
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Anti-Thermic Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II


Hammerhead II x5

RoemySchneider
May 6 2011, 03:08:22 AM
good ole' arty-abaddon

[Abaddon, Arty]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Tracking Computer II
Tracking Computer II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


better than an armor-tempest in every way ('cept sig, and navigation -.-)
pretty much the same fitting can be used on an apoc to save some money but it'll be a lot less buffer, even without a high amarrBS lvl

n0th
May 6 2011, 04:32:03 AM
T1 Arties allow for more tank (no ACR needed), may be worth it in lagfights where artybaddons tend to shine.

Podcat
May 6 2011, 12:57:25 PM
manly-fit:

http://i.imgur.com/GNngz.jpg

you can improve it a bit with faction active hardener, 2nd t2 injector and navy boosters etc but I had no screeny of that.

Lex Fasces
May 6 2011, 02:22:27 PM
was looking at this and also tried the idea with an eccmed paladin =)

never got around to using it though

spm1138
May 7 2011, 01:40:26 AM
good ole' arty-abaddon

[Abaddon, Arty]


better than an armor-tempest in every way ('cept sig, and navigation -.-)
pretty much the same fitting can be used on an apoc to save some money but it'll be a lot less buffer, even without a high amarrBS lvl

There's no comparison between a pest and a abaddon really. The pest never has that great a tank.

While an apoc also has 8 turrets and lots of lows the terrific survivability of the abaddon is definitely part of the charm here. It's not just the amount of buffer but also the amount repped per guardian rep.

Big buffer + bad resists = ship gets chewed through even with reps on. Better resists = even if it goes down it soaks a feck tonne of DPS first.

Pretty much the perfect ship for guardian + BS fights where alpha is desirable imo.

Zeekar
May 7 2011, 07:57:57 PM
manly-fit:

[spoiler:1htobpqp]http://i.imgur.com/GNngz.jpg[/spoiler:1htobpqp]

you can improve it a bit with faction active hardener, 2nd t2 injector and navy boosters etc but I had no screeny of that.

If you have booster alts a ts scram + mwd is also viable.

[Abaddon, 1]
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener
True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
True Sansha Warp Scrambler

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Berserker II x2
Valkyrie II x2
Warrior II x1


With the implants and skills i have the thing has 160k ehp, and 820 dps since i prefer exp damage then thermic. Not heated tank is @ 2058 , with hardeners overheated its at 2460 dps tanked and with everything running like a boss its 3k tank. 16km scram range overheats up to 18.8 for 4 min. A loki and a legion booster are included.

Podcat
May 8 2011, 11:34:38 AM
without a web battlecruisers get under your tracking though. and the mwd isnt all that useful on a slow ship like that and hurts your tank

sassy b
May 8 2011, 12:50:33 PM
What size/type of gang would you consider engageable with a solo manly-tank abaddon?
The only time I've tried it was with a triple rep fit (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7565214), my tank held fine against 6 battlecruisers till I ran out of boosters. The falcons were pretty easy to get rid of, but I couldn't do anything about the swarm of ecm drones, which meant I couldnt hold down any of the bc. That's got me considering dropping a gun for a smartbomb, making up for some of the lost damage by upgrading to moar megapulse.

Zeekar
May 9 2011, 02:06:03 AM
without a web battlecruisers get under your tracking though. and the mwd isnt all that useful on a slow ship like that and hurts your tank

Ya i was thinking that as well but i never got the chance to really test the bloody thing on the field. Usually people ran or brought a massive blob so i pretty much roam in drakes now days.

Podcat
May 9 2011, 08:55:25 AM
What size/type of gang would you consider engageable with a solo manly-tank abaddon?
The only time I've tried it was with a triple rep fit (http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7565214), my tank held fine against 6 battlecruisers till I ran out of boosters. The falcons were pretty easy to get rid of, but I couldn't do anything about the swarm of ecm drones, which meant I couldnt hold down any of the bc. That's got me considering dropping a gun for a smartbomb, making up for some of the lost damage by upgrading to moar megapulse.

dropping a gun really hurts, and I'd prob consider a heavy neut isntead in that case. if you know ppl will blobl you with ECM drones fight under sentries that pops their ecm drones.

6 or so BC are doable, but arty ones can get annoying. 3-4 BS doable also. its pretty neut resistant and can tank for like 1-2min vs 6 heavy neuts or something, but running guns during isnt really an option. prop-less expensive bs are best used for fights on stations/gates so you have a way out or can split off stuff like scorps or neut fagz